Van Helsing (2004) is a Pretty Good D&D Adventure - feat. Ben Byrne from Ghostfire Gaming!
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Күн бұрынMike and Ben Byrne from Ghostfire Gaming team up for an epic collaboration, picking apart the Hugh Jackman gothic horror action superhero blockbuster!
Okay, the movie was not very good, but that doesn’t mean it can’t inspire an awesome campaign!
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CW: Some gothic horror-themed action sequences, references to a monster-horror-equivalent of stillborn birth
Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
03:21 - The Opening Scene of This Movie is Good
05:56 - Backstories
10:22 - Dracula’s Evil Plan
16:16 - The Masquerade Ball
18:35 - Two Evil Castles
23:31 - Dracula’s Weakness and the Werewolf Cure
30:08 - Outro
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The Complex Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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Hiding Your Reality Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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Covert Affair Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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Hitman Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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Dark Fog Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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Cryptic Sorrow Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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Evil Incoming Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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Twisting Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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Black Vortex Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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Lasting Hope Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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@connernorton Жыл бұрын
Van Helsing is such a guilty pleasure, the werewolf designs are amazing!
@SupergeekMike Жыл бұрын
They’re so good!
@kevinbaird6705 Жыл бұрын
8:30 Artificer with an Acolyte Background.
@SupergeekMike Жыл бұрын
True!
@alliebrown4790 Жыл бұрын
You should make this a whole series! I love the idea of turning movies into dnd campaigns
@Nastyn1nja808 Жыл бұрын
Totally fun.
@SupergeekMike Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I do have a playlist of Lessons from Other Media, there will be some occasional new installments :)
@NordsternLP Жыл бұрын
I did a campaign for Shadowrun on the basis of 1999 movie "The Ninth Gate" with grimoires and a nice ritual at the end. Doing something like that in DnD would be even better! Lots of interaction and research in finding the darn things, every book it's own task with specific problems. Another party looking for the same things, maybe in another order. Possibilities are endless.
@RossCastro Жыл бұрын
@@SupergeekMikeGotta follow this video up with the quintessential D&D adventure movie -- The Mummy (1999). To me, that movie always felt like a DM trying to write out this tragic, dramatic story with intense horror elements but at the same time understood that their players really just want to go on a ridiculous adventure, kill monsters and have fun. Sometimes the tragic love story you've set up with your villain will be overshadowed by your players quite literally running and gunning down monsters in the final dungeon.
@elk7308 Жыл бұрын
As a van helsing apologist I somehow never thought to plunder it for ideas. So I appreciate this video and am willing to overlook calling it a bad movie
@SupergeekMike Жыл бұрын
That’s fair lol
@Nastyn1nja808 Жыл бұрын
Lol I still have the HOTS for Kate
@AlexDelux2500 Жыл бұрын
When you said "Dr. Van Helsing, famously portrayed by...", I said "Anthony Hopkins" xD
@valois6846 Жыл бұрын
My answer was David Suchet. But Hopkins is also good
@sofiajohansson1438 6 ай бұрын
Same!! Love Coppola's Dracula, it's what I first think of when I hear the name Dracula, probably.
@serrasedai Жыл бұрын
Unironically, this is my favorite screen Dracula. I love how much flair he has, how emotional he gets, and just the whole performance. I think he's great fun and the pathos adds something extra to the movie that otherwise feels pretty generic.
@SupergeekMike Жыл бұрын
We talk about some of his best lines in the Ghostfire video 😁 He’s just done a real disservice by the rest of the movie
@ani_anonymuncle Жыл бұрын
"Played by Faramir" lolol. I love this "deconstructing into D&D" as a series idea! And man had I totally forgotten I'd seen this film until the clips started, high school memory unlocked.
@StonedHunter Жыл бұрын
To be fair, lesser/younger vampires dying due to the death of their creator wasn't an entirely new concept when this movie came out. Two examples I can think of are the ghouls in Hellsing and the vampires in The Vampire Chronicles (although in that series it's the death of a single vampire that basically holds the 'core' of their species). And now I am absolutely going to go make up a campaign/setting to match the ideas presented here.
@SupergeekMike Жыл бұрын
The Vampire Diaries connection (at least the early seasons of the TV show) occurred to me right after I exported the video lol oh well
@20storiesunder Жыл бұрын
Oh amazing, I was just doing some prep notes for a game that has massive amounts stolen from that exact film. Still one of the best werewolf transformations in media.
@SupergeekMike Жыл бұрын
The werewolf transformations are so good!
@Rums10 Жыл бұрын
*hurriedly takes notes on making the Sun Sword a cursed item* seriously tho, great video. would love to see more videos turning movies into stuff you can steal for a campaign
@Lurklen Жыл бұрын
Honestly, one of the best ideas and I'm surprised I've heard no one suggest it earlier. Totally matches the theme of the adventure.
@SupergeekMike Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I do have a playlist of Lessons from Other Media, it won’t be updated as often as some of my other series, but I have a LOT of ideas for other movies and TV shows I can talk about down the road… :)
@cylver3593 Жыл бұрын
I have known that visiting movies and using ideas in them for D&D was something a lot of people do, but the presentation and breakdown you and Ben gave was very enjoyable to watch. If this became a series on your channel, I would love to see more.
@mkang8782 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this. *Please* do "The 13th Warrior"; I both love and hate to watch it, because it invariably makes me want to play DnD *right away*!
@SupergeekMike Жыл бұрын
It’s on my list! 😁
@RonPower Жыл бұрын
Haha, I thought I was the only one who liked this movie! It's over the top cheese, but its also super fun .
@angelusdemorte3 Жыл бұрын
I contest! Frankenstein's Monster I find to be more accurate to Mary Shelly's character than any other portrayal of him... He's just in a popcorn action flick. But that's just my two cents
@SupergeekMike Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, for sure he’s more thoughtfully adapted than we usually see, it’s a great version of Frankenstein’s Monster. They just don’t give him enough to do :(
@RovingJack Жыл бұрын
I just finished Carmilla, the vampire story that predates Dracula and is suggested to have inspired it by some. I can absolutely recommend it.
@randomim42 Жыл бұрын
Carmilla >>>>>>>>>> Dracula. Carmilla was really good
@RovingJack Жыл бұрын
@@randomim42 I was impressed that something 26 years older than dracula managed to portray the female leads without being caricatures, and give us two, almost three different stories about her woven together in a sort of mystery format with scenes that would fit in a modern horror movie. I'm planning to homebrew a D&D alternative to ravenloft/Curse of Strahd to Carmilla instead.
@randomim42 Жыл бұрын
@@RovingJack not just that but also queer leads. It was alot of fun, and I also kinda love how Carmilla is as a vampire too? Her whole hunting strategy, how she operates, it's as manipulative and predatory vampire as it is compelling. Have you seen the old Netflix show that is (or was) a modern interpretation of Carmilla set in a college with Laura and Carmilla as dorm-mates?
@RovingJack Жыл бұрын
@@randomim42 I've not seen any modern interpretation, I literally just read Carmilla as part of my reading list for spooky month on my Inspired Content channel (along with the horla, the willows, and the vampire knife). I'm changing how I use the channel from what used to be a sort of friends group creative get together that nobody stuck with, to now just being me exploring stories, worldbuilding and art.
@tiredjediknight3110 Жыл бұрын
I think we can consider Frankenstein’s monster a player. He’s a warforged barbarian with some flavour reskinning. He’s just played by Shuler who has scheduling issues with work but loves theatrical role playing and pops in for the sessions he can
@coolgreenbug7551 Ай бұрын
He couldn’t show up after session 0 but his backstory was too important to the major plot to cut it. He also was able to make it to the final session to the joy of everyone else at the table
@lkriticos7619 Жыл бұрын
I had genuinely forgotten about this movie. XD I can't say I'm thankful to remember it.
@SupergeekMike Жыл бұрын
😁
@MySqueezingArm Жыл бұрын
Happy Halloween! Best Holiday!
@SupergeekMike Жыл бұрын
😈
@dolphin64575 Жыл бұрын
I've never seen this movie and this collab video was so fun. Time to watch Ben's vid!
@SupergeekMike Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@anthonyholguin2985 Жыл бұрын
Watching a new video from you is always a good start to my day
@SupergeekMike Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@nightstrike90 Жыл бұрын
Funny enough I've had this creeping suspicion that the movie Dragonheart with Dennis Quaid and Sean Connery was someone's AD&D campaign. All the elements are there if you look at the movie with a TTRPG mindset
@RatDad69 Жыл бұрын
Imma just leave this here "Wild Wild West" staring Will Smith. A gunslinger and an artificer go on a quest to stop an infamous general who keeps kidnapping all of the scientists/artificers from surrounding countries. They get to his hidden base in a canyon just to be confronted with a 100ft tall mechanized spider that shoots fireballs.
@nightstrike90 Жыл бұрын
Did... Did you just make Wild Wild West work? My God.
@eric-johntate Жыл бұрын
The Van Helsing in Paris is a reference to the Edgar A. Poe story: "The Murders in the Rue Morgue"
@leichtmeister Жыл бұрын
Isn't it just a nodd to Mr Jekyll and Dr Hyde? I mean that's literally the monster they hunt there 🤔
@eric-johntate Жыл бұрын
@@leichtmeister it’s both. One of the street signs in that scene says Rue Morgue.
@SupergeekMike Жыл бұрын
Oh cool!
@UnkillableMrStake Жыл бұрын
Yay surprise early vid!
@SupergeekMike Жыл бұрын
Haha a very appropriate username given the movie we're talking about today :)
@UnkillableMrStake Жыл бұрын
@@SupergeekMike Indeed
@MorningDusk7734 Жыл бұрын
In my campaign, I'm going to let my players discover that the only thing that's ever hurt the BBEG was a weapon wielded by a paladin who died during the war. They will then find the weapon, and I'll drop the tidbit that it needs to be filled with spiritual energy of some sort to be powered, either by a paladin or cleric's bond to their God, or by a Hexblade Warlock channeling their patron into the weapon. Should hopefully lead to some character choices as characters see who's willing to go the distance for the greater good.
@formerctgovernordannelmall1452 Жыл бұрын
My brother and I used to ride our bikes all around town as kids, and we’d stop at this one pizza shop for lunch since we’d be out all day. I remember for some reason this pizza place just ALWAYS had TBS on and there was coincidentally ALWAYS a Van Hellsing rerun when we’d be sitting down and eating, so we’d always sit and watch the rest. So this movie will always hold a special place in my heart despite how utterly awful it is. Only last year did I complete my first campaign as a DND player, and it WAS Curse of Strahd. Not only had my DM taken a lot of inspiration from the Van Hellsing film, but much of what you’ve said can be applied to a CoS game was done effectively in ours. I’ll post a comment with some specifics later This was an awesome video like always, but I do have one teeny tiny bit of criticism: some of the humor in this video was a little bit forced; I love both your content and GFG’s but some of the jokes in this video (at least delivery wise) felt pretty jarring to the videos pace, particularly the one that was something along the lines of “Oh don’t even get me started on how Daredevil [so and so]...” it just really clashed with your normal delivery, even compared to the funnier jokes you DID deliver in this video (like the pause followed by that dry “...It’s not a good movie.” Which I genuinely thought was a funny delivery) Idk I think my putting a whole two paragraphs to addressing this ONE LITTLE thing is way overboard on my part, but I guess I want to give sincere feedback because you’ve been doing so well as a beginning channel and you respond really well to the feedback you have received. I look forward to the next video!
@gamercore5216 Жыл бұрын
Carl could just have the acolyte background
@SupergeekMike Жыл бұрын
True!
@tiredjediknight3110 Жыл бұрын
That’s precisely what he is!
@KKRDM Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video gents!
@SupergeekMike Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@kanseiyamazaru435 Жыл бұрын
I like some of the ideas you two have come up to use for Curse of Strahd. Lately I've was thinking about what if one made a story of it but with the twist that adventuring party were all based on classic Universal monsters (and a few additional ones if need be).
@manueltorresart2345 Жыл бұрын
All this video game me some good ideas to implement in a non-horror campaign, so it served it's purpose. Thanks a lot for being always so helpful.
@ChaseHukill Жыл бұрын
Van Helsing is my favorite movie of all time
@jloost-gamer Жыл бұрын
Amazing video guys! My dumb brain was like "Ghostfire Gaming, that's a really cool name for a channel. Have I heard that before?" Then glanced behind Ben... Then glanced at my Grim Hollow pdf... "Oooooohhhhhhh snap!"
@TheAciddragon069 Жыл бұрын
my current campaign revolves around killing an immortal king who achieved immortality with the help of his court alchemist. The king is unkillable without a weapon that was forged with the blood of the alchemist (he put it in the potion as a safeguard) so the entire campaign is the players trying to find a living relative, obviously they are running into side quests along the way. what they don't know is, the Cleric is the last living relative, i can't wait to spring that on them.
@seamusb9012 Жыл бұрын
Can we get Gabriel? That would be so awesome! I love this movie with all its flaws and weird 2000s stuff. It's not good but I really enjoy it.
@haljambox3159 Жыл бұрын
Alright, so I actually just started a campaign with some of my friends a few months ago after my girlfriend had been running one with us for almost a year at that point. I had just re-watched some of my childhood favorites (like League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Lon Chaney's "Wolfman", The Mummy, ect.) and had gained some gothic inspiration. Then one of my players said he wanted to play a monster hunter like Van Helsing. I hadn't seen the film, but I'm a big Hugh Jackman fan so I sat down and watched the cartoon and movie in one night to get an idea of the character he wanted to play. Long story short, this video kinda summarizes the best ideas I took from it, and points out SO MANY more great ideas to go through. I think it's a wonderful source of inspiration, and you guys did an incredible job breaking it all down. I will totally be rewatching this video as my campaign moves forward and they start to piece together the plot I'm weaving. Now I'm off to go watch the other half! Thanks for another incredible video Mr. Mike! P.S. this channel is one of the main reasons I started DMing. My girlfriend has been doing it for a while, and I was very intimidated, but she introduced me to your channel, and through your videos I gained a lot of knowledge and tips on how to run the best DnD game I can! So, thank you again for all the help I hope you know you've been.
@kelseyweber1791 Жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, I’ve seen this movie twice in the last month, once cause I chose to and once because it was on some movie channel for Halloween. And while I wouldn’t call it a cinematic masterpiece by any stretch of the imagination, it’s a nice popcorn flick to turn the brain off for an hour and half. I did get some very DnD vibes from the movie as I watched though. Especially the final battle that seemed to go on way too long to just be 12 tolls, like you said. I think my biggest hang up with the movie is there are numerous times where the story could have ended much sooner of the vampires weren’t so damned dramatic 😂😂😂 Just bite/kill them already!
@SupergeekMike Жыл бұрын
I also have a particular distaste for a bad guy leering and saying “Next time you have a chance to kill someone, don’t hesitate!” And then the hero kills them and says “Thanks for the advice.” Die Hard was clever when they did it, we never need anyone to do it again, but I’ve seen it two or three times in the past month (including this film) and I just… hate it now.
@BethanValerious Жыл бұрын
this is the perfect sexual awakening movie, i will die on this hill
@SupergeekMike Жыл бұрын
Stephen Sommers had a knack for that - The Mummy 1999 has those same vibes for sure
@BradLad56 Жыл бұрын
I can't dislike this movie. There's just something about it that just gels with me. Maybe it's the gothic atmosphere.
@jonathanschaefer9848 Жыл бұрын
I had this exact revelatory experience while watching Coraline the other night!
@SupergeekMike Жыл бұрын
Oooh that’s a fun one, too!
@lydiapalmese9322 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I regularly lift ideas from books and film so it's helpful to get advice on translating plot points into game mechanics. I'd love to see more like this!
@SupergeekMike Жыл бұрын
Definitely! I have a playlist for these videos, “Lessons From Other Media,” and I’ve got ideas for others in this series in the future!
@toonman5099 Жыл бұрын
Very nice ideas here. ^u^ Also, not sure if I'd call the movie a guilty pleasure, but I DO unironically like this movie. Sure it's cheesey, but I feel like this movie IS one of the better modern takes of adapting the Universal Monsters mythos. Plus all the designs are kick-@$$ in my opinion. As far as how Dracula and his brides travel around, Anna actually says it in the movie in the scene when they were going over all the evidence to look for the door, after Dracula was banished, the Devil gave him wings. And to explain the werewolf at Castle Dracula thing, I'm not entirely sure. As far as Van Helsing being a werewolf, they do honestly have hints as to what's going on. Dracula mentions it's hard to control a werewolf during their first full moon, meaning that the person under the curse is doing their best to fight against whatever control there is over them. Especially if Dracula can hypnotize the werewolf along the same lines as he did with Anna at the masquerade party. Plus Van Helsing being the Left Hand of God in this instance is also probably giving him an extra boost, as noted by the cross symbol on his chest when in werewolf form if you look close enough. Also side note, speaking of Bram Stoker's Dracula, I actually came across a tumblr post that points out the idea of vampires being destroyed by sunlight or not being able to cross rivers to be false. The original source for it was looking into the scene in Netflix's Castlevania series where some of Dracula's generals and top men discuss the idea of vampires and running water (then later on of course showing an undead priest being able to bless the water). The post is called "Can running water hurt Dracula?" by "thenightling". The post basically broke down the two ideas being sort of actually false facts people assume about vampires, the former being only a visual metaphor and the latter actually being a weakness of ghosts.
@coolgreenbug7551 Ай бұрын
I don’t know how the werewolves do it, but in the movie they say Satan gave Dracula the ability to fly BECAUSE he’s stuck behind the one way map door
@norvillesdingus3917 Жыл бұрын
I was with you until this point 1:20 That book toss really hurts my soul!
@SupergeekMike Жыл бұрын
Thankfully it’s a really durable copy, I bought it specifically for this gag and it’s still perfectly fine 😁
@Nastyn1nja808 Жыл бұрын
Lol Anna is totally Lara Bailey
@SupergeekMike Жыл бұрын
I don’t hate it 😁
@Psymonkee Жыл бұрын
Make that Daredevil video! I have a love/hate relationship with that film!
@heykak Жыл бұрын
I literally just watched this movie 2 days ago...
@SupergeekMike Жыл бұрын
I’m kind of glad there’s a bit of nostalgia for it, it’s a perfect movie to revisit because it’s such an excellent artifact of 2004 cheesy action movies
@heykak Жыл бұрын
@@SupergeekMike I got on a vampire action hyperfocus so i watched van helsing, underworld sans rise of the lycans and 2014 dracula.
@TakeWalker Жыл бұрын
it would be super cool to see more videos analyzing media in an RPG light like, I once read a fanfic that wasn't very good, but its characters' actions and motivations made a good bit more sense if I looked at it as a campaign for some unknown TTRPG
@sleepyspartan1367 Жыл бұрын
Idea for the sun sword. You could have the Sword do damage to them dealt to them through either healing or everytime they hit strahd with it & if they die then they will become a fiend bound to either a demon lord or arch fiend or maybe even a god that was crossed by Strahd who made a deal with them & is why they are a vampire. Just don't tell the party this just tell the player using it about the damage & that Asmodeus or whatever fiend is talking to them through the sword. Maybe they find that making it a sun sword was a reuse & a way the fiend was trying to cut loses by killing the deal breaker well getting a new servant
@Loafusbreadmyre Жыл бұрын
Is it a bad movie? yeah probably but I still fucking adore Van Helsing.
@Nastyn1nja808 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for next Movie Review.....idea theft? Idea Heist??? ...yah
@SupergeekMike Жыл бұрын
Lol I do have a playlist of Lessons from Other Media, it won’t be updated as often as some of my other series, I have a LOT of ideas for other movies and TV shows I can talk about down the road… :)
@scottwalker6947 Жыл бұрын
Hey! Easy on the book, Dude! ;) Or, here's an idea...and I'm only spit balling, here. Not have a Sunblade in CoS?
@Lukester132 Жыл бұрын
wait a supergeek upload on a day that isn't monday or thursday
@SupergeekMike Жыл бұрын
We wanted to get these videos out a few days before Halloween, otherwise it was going to become a lot less relevant just a few hours after debuting, since tomorrow everybody will pretty much start prepping for Christmas
@mossj52 Жыл бұрын
IDK, I've always enjoyed the movie.
@SupergeekMike Жыл бұрын
I’m in no place to judge, my affection for Daredevil (2003) is completely unironic 😁
@Tiafain Жыл бұрын
Skip ahead to 5:30 to get to the point
@SupergeekMike Жыл бұрын
That skips quite a lot of content
@sn0wb00ts Жыл бұрын
Loved most of the movie adaptations of that book. Especially loved the Gary Oldman Dracula. I found the book to be pretty boring even by literary standards lol
@scottwalker6947 Жыл бұрын
There is one problem with Gothic Horror in D&D. In Horror the characters are victims of circumstance. In D&D they are super heroes in plate armour. You can't have Gothic Horror with Paladins with truck loads of HP, abilities to smite undead, and a frickin' Sunblades. If I were to run CoS as part of a campaign, I would have the PCs appear on the other side of The Mist dressed in period Barovian clothes at 1st level, and we start from scratch.
@TheWestmarker Жыл бұрын
why did you throw the book tho D:
@ShadowPa1adin Жыл бұрын
Peter Cushing and Hugh Jackman? No. The two best VanHelsings were Sir Anthony Hopkins and Mel Brooks.
@SupergeekMike Жыл бұрын
I also love Tim Curry as Van Helsing in the audiobook
@pzalterias5154 Жыл бұрын
cheesy movies are good dnd adventures to be honest.
@waldowallace9102 Жыл бұрын
This movie was only good as a example of how to laugh at the movie. My favorite part was when they just finished fighting a werewolf until daybreak. The female lead then states, "The next full moon is in three days." My only explanation is that they are on a different planet. Horribly inconsistent movie.
@Boundwithflame23 Жыл бұрын
Hey Mike, off topic but i wanted to give a heads up about this. There are scam bots floating around impersonating KZfaqrs in video comments. Usernames generally consist of “text me on telegram” and then the channel name their impersonating and use the impersonated channel’s pfp and say the person they are replying to has won something
@SupergeekMike Жыл бұрын
Oof yeah I’ve heard a bit about this! As far as I know it hasn’t happened in my comments yet but I’ll still mention it in my next video just in case
@john-lenin Жыл бұрын
They killed Anna off because she was a much better and stronger character than Jackman's. Gotta keep the InCels happy.
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