Nothing better than hearing Oliver talking about the Superman films

They should of had the TV Cuts instead and the long lost full version of 4 , maybe then it would be worth the high price

Agreed about the tv edit of S2. If they remastered and released that version of the film, the fan editing floodgates would burst like a dam, lol. There IS a good movie there somewhere between the 2 (or 3) cuts of the film, but sadly, with Donner's passing and Lester having disappeared off the face of the Earth, it'll probably never happen.

Warner never fails... to disappoint

Respectfully, there is one comment here that I strongly disagree with; I think that physical media is about to have a major resurgence relative to streaming. First, the exclusivity of streaming platforms is taking away their economic advantage of streaming over cable and satellite services. Second, people are learning that as Streamers giveth they also taketh away; even in cases where an album, movie, or show is fully purchased and saved to a private queue they've become no longer available. Well, the studio doesn't come to your door demanding you relinquish your discs. First we're going to see second hand prices go up, then the studios will take notice and dust off the DVD and Blu-ray making machines.

I’m glad you did a rundown of the issues discovered so far as most other so called reviewers haven’t or acted as if they were unimportant. This is really slipshod work from Warner as usual except on a grander scale. The price point is too high and errors like this shouldn’t be supported in spite of otherwise great new scan. Losing the 70mm of I alone is a reason to reject this along with keeping the original 4k master when it was supposed to be replaced by a redone version. The errors in the sequels are inexcusable. Once again this is a moment where the Warner Archive division should be put in charge of the main studio label. I’m extremely glad you mentioned the Batman 4K issues. Those drive me insane and the teal in Returns is hideous especially. The otherwise fantastic new scans are further ruined by the lack of original audio in any form. It’s almost as if the team behind the flawed DCAU releases was let loose on this Superman set!!

I caught the new 4k remaster on the big screen with my son. I've seen that movie 50 times throughout my life on VHS, DVD, and Blu Ray and I ca honestly say it was like I had never seen (or heard) it before.

For the cost and the hype, there are way too many issues for a release that should have been definitive and archival

Thank you for pointing out all the errors / mistakes of judgement Warner Bros has made with this set. Wow! What a mess!

I’m glad the donner cut exists flaws and all

I would love to see the alternate cut of Superman 4..

Loving your stuff Oliver. Only just found your channel. It’s a treasure trove, thank you

Your reviews are just hands down the best. I appreciate your continued efforts. Much appreciation........ Thank you so much

Leave it to WB to cock up what should have been an easy release. There should have been TV extended cuts, proper color correcting, and a proper sound mix. They should have gotten notes from Fox with the Alien Box set.

I must be a bit sentimental about Superman IV. My father took me to the theater to see it when I was a kid. I was blown away. Even that being put aside I have always loved it and still do. It doesn't take itself too seriously. It's just good popcorn film fun. Not to mention it is still THE SUPERMAN Christopher Reeve. I like everything he was in no matter how B movie it may be.

Ollie, my brother from another mother- I share your passion for Superman, and grateful for all you do regarding the caped wonder! Warner really is sloppy. Scream, Shout, Arrow and even Paramount do a way better job with their transfers.

I love how u do reviews for remaster DVDs I wouldn't have known this even existed without ur video so thank you.

I want to see the Oliver Harper cut of Superman 2

The 4K version of this movie and all the movies are now on MAX. The picture is definitely better than ever as are some of the sound effects. But as noted the soundtrack is really off in a lot of places. Looks like Warner Bros. has no intention of fixing this since they are now streaming it on their service..

This looks like a great collection! Celebrated Superman's 45th anniversary by catching the 1978 classic on the big screen!

Brilliant review. Great analysis on the audio in particular. 👏👏👏👏👏

Christopher Reeve played the best SuperMan 🦸‍♂️.

Those individual covers... besides the bad photoshop jobs, I'm surprised they didn't use the logos made from the 2018 soundtrack releases, they were excellent updates that made all the film's logos look more consistent.

Oliver, I think it’s time for WB to entrust their vintage library to their Warner Archive label, because they actually put in the extra effort, time and money into their releases.

Please release the TV cut of Superman 2!

Ill stay with my Blu-rays of this.

I love how people are assuming warner archive will release these alternate cuts when they couldn't even be bothered to put the international cut of supergirl on their bluray which WA released not WHE

One gripe I have with this set is they should have used that extra case that houses the pointless collectibles as a separate case for the Donner cut. Three films have the original artwork on the front, with the S and corresponding roman numeral on the back. Not Superman II, though, as that has the original theatrical poster on one side, and the artwork for the Donner cut on the other. Such an asinine decision that just makes no sense.

Excellent review with amazing details and a great comprehension of the problem in these issues of Superman movies. Thanks again for such an inspired work.

I worry about what will come of WB's home release division with Zaslav's further cost cutting to the entire company. And what you've described in this review is concerning, especially for what's supposed to be a prestige anniversary release.

Another overlooked: why does the special edition of Superman 1 didn't get a 4k transferred?

In the Donner Cut of “Superman II,” the rocket was actually a miniature built by Derek Meddings, but I will say that the composite didn’t look very convincing.

The steelbook set is physically amazing. I'm happy to own it but I'm disappointed WB left so many opportunities for upgrades down the line. I'm sure they will release a collector's edition of the first film for another anniversary.

Superman The Movie has a higher average bit rate than the 2018 edition , and the reason for dropping one of the sound mixes

Dang that’s pretty scathing for the Donner cut, I still prefer it over the theatrical cut even with its imperfections. I’m honestly most annoyed with Superman Returns being omitted, I’ve been dying for a new transfer of that film and if it’s been shelved because of Singer and Spacey that’s frustrating. What they did is abhorrent and wrong but I’m able to separate the art from the artist. Here’s hoping that we get a 4K of Superman returns and Supergirl soon

I'll stick to my dvd box set they released right after Superman Returns

Great review! Shame to learn about the sound issues. I've ordered mine from UK, so hopefully Warner get a lot of feedback and fix these problems.

I remmmeber watching The Donner Cut of Superman 2 when it first came out, I thought it was Extremly Poorly Executed in the Edit Room,, That movie alone needs a Re-Edit with a Better Editor seriously

I just finished watching the movie for the first time and much of what you said in your retrospective... you were correct that anyone can be surprised how good it is, emotional, and fun. I really enjoyed it 😅

At least, they should have had the same color timer for all titles in this set. For the 2011 Blu-Ray release, that person was a gentleman named Pat Miller.

Yep, these are also on the Max streaming service. I was honestly laughing hard with the complete bouched-up music cues of Superman IV, and I'm shocked that Warner Bros let this slide, even though I shouldn't be shocked. XD I love Alexander's score as much as the next fan does, so it is embarrassing to see this happen.

Bummer about all this. I was burned by the issues (which still remain uncorrected) on the Rocky 4K set, so I cancelled my Superman 4K set. For the price, the issues are pretty unacceptable. Not sure what is going on with QA in studios like Warner. Pretty sad, especially when you consider this is part of their 100th Anniversary collection.

It's weird how his costume changes color between the different versions.

1000% agree about wanting a Superman II TV edition dvd. I love that version

Hopefully one day and still believe I'll get to restore Superman IV original cut properly :)

It's kinda of ironic that none of these movies outside of the first movie have never had the TV cut released of them on DVD or Blu-ray.

Wonderful review thanks for the detailed information. I'm still buying this because Christopher Reave was my childhood Superman.

Very concerned about Warner’s upcoming Enter the Dragon 4K now…

I went to see it at the cinema the other week for its 45th anniversary/Warner’s 100th anniversary. It was like 2 films. A huge amount of film grain and looked quite muddy during the composite shots. However Brando in his reflective costume looked great. Once Cal got to Earth it was a lovely watch… first time at the cinema since aged 5 in 1978!!!

Thank you for this Olly 👍🏻

I wanted Supergirl and Superman Returns to be included. And new transfers on all the Blu-Ray discs. The 70mm version as well.

Great review Oliver can't wait to get my 4K UHD Blu-Ray Disc Steelbooks Box Set of The Superman 5 Five Collection 1978-1987 in the U.S. on May 9th ! Man this is gonna be good ❤❤❤🥰🥰🥰

What WB should have done for Superman IV’s audio is take the soundtrack version of the original score and extend the sound to Dolby Atmos while keeping the integrity of the mix instead of replacing it to sound like a band performing it like you mentioned.

Thank you for this, Oliver. Your edit work on the intro montage was especially awesome this time around. I’ve been looking forward to your review of this set and it was great. Can I ask, when you watch this Superman IV 4K, what will you personally do - persisted with the ATMOS audio and its errors, or revert to the theatrical sound?

I like this trend of releasing tv cuts in nice quality "king kong"(1976) and lewis teagues entertaining 1980 monster movie "alligator" having hd presentations. By the way my 2006 dvds no longer work. All freeze up in the middle same with most 2007 Warner dvd releases. I think it was some factory defect. There is a youtube video that talks about it. So I wasn't the only one. If I wanted to see an open matte 300 for example I may be out of luck.

I'm glad a kept hold of my 2018 Superman release for the 70mm soundtrack,

I have all 4 extended tv cuts on recordable d.v.d's. Just wish WARNER would put the other 3 extended versions on blu-ray like they did part 1.

I was really looking forward to seeing STM done properly ive bought these movies on VHS ,LD,Dvd,Blu-ray this set isn't cheap cheap cheap

This saved me some money 👍. I was afraid that the first movie wasn't gonna be a new 4K master and the over use of HDR is so unfortunate.

Great breakdown as usual Oliver. I just got 1 and 2 as 3 and 4 aren’t my favourites and I’m keeping the blu ray set for completion’s sake. This set has a lot missing from it. I like the poster art on the steelbooks though. Some of those glitches are annoying though. I noticed the colour glitch on Christopher Reeve’s title the other day and the pitch wobble in 2. Kind of baffling that discs go out like this without any QA.

Great review as always, too bad they didn't make some new extras or something? it kinda sucks they just threw in the old Bluray's from the anthology set, oh well, I have no doubt WB will double dip again with another Superman film set. WB 4k sets from what I have been hearing in reviews seem to mostly have audio issues for some reason these days.

The extended of the first movie was Donners intent. I’d like to see a Proper transfer of that.

Thanks Oliver for the wonderful review. Wish I could afford the 4K releases, but thanks for your review, I'm kind of happy that I can't afford it.

Hi Oliver nice video but I wished you had gone on to some details about the extras included on the Superman disks

The U.S. Flag is called the "American flag". It's red, white and blue. It has 50 stars on it.

My God nearly 40 years later Superman 4 is still finding ways to get screwed up.. This movie truly is cursed..

Excellent work sir!

I own this collection i'm absolutely satisfied with it excellent review! Keep up the good work Oliver!

For the Donner cut, it's unfortunate about the budget for the added effects. For anyone that has seen the Directors Edition of Star Trek The Motion Picture, will see that it is possible to have top notch effects remastered and redone to modernize the movie. As much as I doubt it will ever happen, it would be amazing if they would revisit and redo the effects for this film. In regards to Superman IV, curious if the North American releases have the same audio issues, hence the delay for the North American release?

I only have 4 film favorites Superman collection on 📀, while I got the first 2 Superman movies with extended cut on blu ray disc.

I really don't give two shits about technical specifications, like video and audio. I mainly just care about special features, and if this set has all the same bonuses as my current DVD box set, then I don't see it worth upgrading.

Ehhh I just want WB to release separate 4K UHD copies of Superman II and the Donner Cut here in America. Idk if I'd pay for the standard boxset coming next month since I already have Superman I on 4K (despite the flawed presentation) and absolutely detest III & IV. Also, WB should have done a 4K restoration of the special edition cut of Superman I. Although I prefer the theatrical cut, I have fond memories of the extended cut since I watched that version a lot in my youth.

My hope is they at least fix these problems on the digital versions and hopefully put out replacement discs. And yes, those Batman 89 and Returns in 4K was pretty bad with people's skin tone looking like heavy saturated makeup. Really hope a fan out there does a color correction of the 4k that I can download. Kind of like what people do with Star Wars.

I recorded Superman the Movie(1978) off Telefutura in 2006. There was a brand new TV spot for the Nintendo Wii. "Plomo" is Spanish/Castellano for "lead".

I remember watching the TV extended cut of Superman 3 on UK TV back in the 80s. How come this has never been released?

Sad to hear the news about Superman IV. I ordered the Steelbook collection here in the US. Maybe they will correct the problem over here before it’s released but somehow I doubt they will.

14:37 - 14:40 *No.* *They* *Should* *Be* *Presented* *In* *The* *Way* *The* *Director* *Wants* *Them* *To* *Be* *Presented.*

The thing I hate most about all this is that there are no individual releases. I only want Superman 2 because 3 and 4 suck kryptonite but WB has apparently refused to put out individual releases just like back in 2011 and I don't know why.

One thing that always annoyed me and nobody ever explained why, at the beginning of Superman 2 is the S yellow with a red background and never corrected.

They should have used the same color correction expert for the entire set.

A great collection 👌 have the ultimate edition 1 and dvd set still happy with

I didn't know they had a 4K version of these movies

at least for 4, the original score is available on the included stereo track

The primary reason why I’m sticking with regular blurays and not upgrading to 4K, too many errors and as you say, constantly changing the films look.

Thanks Oliver

I bought these a while ago on Apple TV and now they’re all in Vision & Atmos

I have the Limited Edition 2006 Tin DVD set with 13 Disks. I have double dipped on the 1st film a few times to have the TV cut on bluray and the 4k release. I dunno if I wanna double dip on the other movies..this set purely looks like the movies. I dunno what other special features it is.

Well said at the end.

I love your intro showing all quadrilogy superman,❤️ best superman portrayal I wanna buy his hot toys❤️

“Of course you know THIS MEANS WAR!!!!!” - Bugs Bunny

Think I'm just gonna stick with my blu ray box set i got many years ago, that one at least tells you exactly what it is 😆

I'm a bit miffed that the far-superior special edition of Superman '78 doesn't get a 4K transfer. I love the gauntlet scene in particular and find it a glaring hole in the theatrical cut.

Am I also right in thinking that the new 4K box set is missing a lot of the special features from the blu-ray anthology set?

I have no idea why they didn’t include “Supergirl” in this set. Maybe they just wanted to focus on Christopher Reeve’s performance as Superman.

Special edition is only included on the uk/outside the USrelease like it was in 2018 whereas the states got the theatrical cut

How did you manage to recreate the opening credits format from the first film for your introduction?

They should of been the extended cuts they wb always give us the ones were already got just different packaging its just wrong

Paramount's 1976 remake of *"KING KONG"* deserve a future retrospective review here, especially with the recent Shout! Factory Blu-Ray and its 4K release including an HD remaster of the two-part, three-hour-long Extended TV Cut from 1978.

Thank you

Not going to happen but would anybody else be interested in seeing a ground up re-edit of Superman 4 Quest for peace with deleted scenes added and the effects redone as some of the effects work in the film is rather poor