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My father is the one who helped me remember why supes works. I was explaining that I thought he was boring because superman only has like one weakness. My dad simply said, "but not really, his real one is people." I thought on that and realized he's right. Superman cares deeply about people and is stuck in a world that doesn't.

Superman's super hearing isn't just frustrating it's also traumatic. Imagine hearing someone about to be stabbed while another person is about to get hit by a car. Then having to choose which one to save. The ability to maintain his sanity is a power in itself. These dilemmas and moral complexities are super compelling. Superman is a fascinating character when in the hands of a great writer that can challenge him in these ways.

Im glad people are starting to open up to him now that james gunn is making the movie.

The same thing happened to me last year. I always liked Superman, but I didn't *get* Superman. And last year, consuming a lot of Superman media... I finally understand the Man of Steel.

I never stop loving the character, even when I was a kid I actually enjoy the man of steel and I was introduced to the character in Superman animated series and Superman returns

This is why the Christopher Reeve movie is so iconic. That scene where he's having a conversation with his Jor-El after his first night really puts into perspective what this guy has to go through. All you need to do is watch that and you can write a really compelling dramatic storyline for him sandwiched by spectacular action, a touch of romance and some lighthearted humor.

I completly agree. I also hated Superman because of Injustice. But after watching 'Superman & Lois', 'My Adventures With Superman', 'Batman and Superman: Battle of the Super Sons' and 'Legion of Super Heroes', it has completely reinvigorated my love for the character.

I’ve always like super man growing up, wasnt my fav but only since like two years ago, I’ve had an affinity towards him. I was depressed and Batman has that connotation but not always , so I shifted into superman. And man, his faith, morals and hope made me love the character so much. The general public love the SUPERman but like me and u and every one else we love the superMAN. Also, I’m currently reading that Dawn of dc superman comic and I love it. I recommend reading: - Superman for all seasons - Superman American Alien( one of the issues has Clark and friends discussing his purpose of being superman love it 🥰) - Superman rebirth 2016 - superman up in the sky

If Kevin Feige can make a “boring” character like Captain America into one of the most beloved superheroes ever, James Gunn can do the same for Superman.

I highly recommend Superman and Lois. Best Superman content to do date. The show is extremely comic accurate both in terms of his core principles, personality and action wise.

The best thing James Gunn's DCU is that alot of mainstream biases against these characters will finally be changed.

that take in how the Snyder movies aren't a good depiction of the most interesting versions of Superman has been the collective opinion of people who prefer a good old Heroic Superman. welcome to the club.

I have never found supes boring

I just had a long conversation with my brother about this a few days ago, I'll be sure to share this with him.

That's actually the exact same thing that happened to me. I loved the classic films growing up, then lost interest in the character, but after Gunn announced he'd be doing I realized just how beautiful the character is and how important he is to not only comic book culture, but pop culture as well.

Heck my favorite Superman story is actually from rebirth with Clark Kent & Lois lane as husband and wife raising there son Jonathan Samuel Kent superboy as his little 10 year old self learning how to control his powers and being a great hero which freaking fantastic in my opinion.

1:38 Something relevant to discuss is that you can generate a lot of conflict in Superman stories without having his villains be overpowered/remove Clark’s powers, by focusing on Superman trying to avoid collateral damage. A villain doesn’t need to be stronger than Superman to cause conflict, they just need to endanger civilians enough so Clark needs to think out how to rescue people while causing as little collateral damage as possible. Superman works really well as a fire-and-rescue guy, and the story can be interesting if Clark has to plan how he will rescue people instead of just punching his problems into submission.

I followed a very similar path as you with my Superman Fandom. Loved him as a kid, started to believe all those common criticisms as a teenager, and then I read DC Rebirth Superman when it came out, and I fell in love with him all over again.

i really think zack synder wasn't the right person to handle superman on film

This content is really good! Keep up the good work! 👍

To anyone who wants a good introductory comic showing why Supes is possibly the best superhero, I highly recommend "Up in the Sky" by Tom King. Premise: Supes have to rescue a little girl kidnapped by aliens. But its easily one of the best superman books.

Great video man!👍🏿That's right Superman was NEVER boring! He's always been very interesting as a superhero and I should know cause I've always loved him since first watching him on my old VHS cartoon tape during my late 80's childhood. Besides there's always been more to him than just his powers, its also what he's always represented as a superhero for years...HOPE TRUTH & JUSTICE!!! And also real goodness in the real world. Also there have been times when he didn't have his powers but still managed and still proven himself to be quite a survivor. He also has a big brain himself and knows how and when to strategize too just as Batman does. Those who say he's boring these days just don't know him as well as they think and sometimes its those recent evil versions of Superman that make them get the wrong idea about him. Anyway I hope this new "Superman: Legacy" movie coming will prove to be a great success when it comes!

I used to hate him as well, but now that I'm older he's arguably the hero I have the most respect for

great channel, just saw basically all ur videos. u need more subs

Great video, always happy to see people sticking up for Supes.

I never stopped loving Superman. I also never thought he was boring. His powers are great, but the best part of Superman is that despite his powers, he's just a good guy who wants to help people and try to do the right thing. That's what's needed from the character in this world, now more than ever. I get frustrated with Zack Snyder's take on Superman because of how it not only fails to understand Superman, but it goes against the morals and ideals Superman stands for. Not to mention how overused the evil Superman trope has been as of late. Making Superman evil doesn't make him any more interesting. Good Superman is better and much more needed.

I pretty much agree with everything in this video other than our difference of opinion regarding my adventures with Superman (and MoS a little bit). Then again, I'm also a big fan of new 52 Superman (haven't read the Morrison stuff yet), so that probably says more things about me.

I hope the new Superman movie delivers.

I felt the exacts same way about Superman when I was a kid I always wanted to see Batman or other superheroes rather than Superman I really didn't care what Superman was men to be and yeah I just saw him as a over powerful superhero but after the Superman Legacy announcement then I thought I should read some of the comics about Superman and the first one I read was all stars Superman after that I never felt so different about Superman now I care deeply how super man should be in the media I have hope for James gun Superman was always about hope I see that now

There’s an interesting internal conflict with the character. He could easily destroy the world and create it into his own image. He could easily crush Lex Luthor with his pinky. But he doesn’t. He still works hard to be the best he can be

I never hated Superman. But I lost touch with who he his is with Snyders stuff. I had to relearn what he’s about, and it’s made me fall in love with him. Even Henry Cavil desired a more accurate take on Superman, and his cult seem to overlook that. - I’m going to rewatch my adventures with Superman. Definitely gives me the right feels

As much as I strongly dislike both My Adventures with Superman (I hate how they messed up his Mythos) & the "Better Tomorrow" Line this was a very well thought-out video. I've always loved Superman & pleased to see someone who gets his Characterization.

Similar journey with superman. Heard the movie announcement went back and read superman comics(still reading) he’s now my favorite superhero. Hopefully Gunn can capture Truth, Justice and a better tomorrow in a movie.

I’m so happy other people are having the same revelation as me! I also only cared for Superman as a pop culture icon without REALLY knowing who he is as a character. That was until I watched My Adventures with Superman , and now I’m reading the exact same comic run (Marilyn Moonlight caught my attention). It’s great to see this show turning tides and reminding people why we love Superman; hopefully James Gunn’s Superman has the same impact.

It's Truth, Justice, and the American Way I never liked the updated "Better Tomorrow".

Something else I think that really adds to Superman as a character is the dichotomy of Superman and Clark Kent. This idea of an almost all-powerful character who has to deal with the ordinary problems of an average (or below average) human is just fascinating to me. And maybe I'm moving into head-cannon territory (since the character has been written in different ways over the years), the way I've always seen it is that Clark and Superman are both real; neither one is a mask--they are two halves of the same man.

Injustice was NOWHERE NEAR the start of the Evil Superman stories. Take a look at The Animated Series episodes "Brave New Metropolis" and "Legacy" for example (one of the best versions in my opinion) and no more an outlier than your "no more" sample from Superman and Lois, or the Justice League episode "A Better World" (another fine example, and technically later in the same universe as the previous mention). Even Lois and Clark: The Adventures of Superman had their own version, albeit a clone. Of course, you showed the Superman III version that was even earlier, and there are nearly countless iterations throughout the comics.

I think my favourite example of Superman being a deep character would come in the Climax of Superman vs the Elite. That entire movie judged his moral code believing that his way wouldn’t work in a *modern* world, so he decides to show them what a no morality Superman would be like. Seeing the Elite members be slowly picked off as the world watches on in fear of their Symbol of Hope become an unstoppable force of destruction, he showed the World what he could do unhinged without truly crossing the line (thanks to Cloaking technology). He will always be there to help the people of Metropolis, and the World, cause the people need a beacon of hope and goodwill to inspire them, along with his dream of a better tomorrow (Man of Tomorrow).

I wish one day Louise lane is black or mixed, they made zod's family black in young justice(they were cool), emerald empress mixed...she was cool! 😎

4:49 Honestly, even that argument falls flat when you remember that we've got much better nuanced approaches to instances where he wouldn't totally snap, decades earlier. The STAS episode "Brave New Metropolis" explores a reality where Lois died and Superman teamed up with Luthor to become a brutal enforcer. Prime Lois talks him out of it and he works on repairing his mistakes. Or if I'm gonna give the most obvious story which handled this well, Kingdom Come. Joker killed Lois and Magog killed Joker. One thing led to another and Kansas got destroyed. Clark went into hiding until Diana called him out of retirement. It was difficult, but he OVERCAME his grief. He's still hurt and broken. But he still puts on the tights to help those in need. It's funny how Kingdome Come Diana helped him through his grief while Injustice Diana just enabled all of his worst tendencies.

The Superman cartoons of the 90s were good. I used to watch them on TV. Those Justice League cartoons from the 2000s were Better than the movie! Batman Mask of the Phantasm was Incredible!!

I agree with everything in this video but I do need to mention like Invincible, Homelander is also a well done variant on this trope.

To be fair, Injustice Superman killing Lois Lane *also* set off a nuclear warhead in Metropolis killing millions, because the detonator was linked to some kind of sensor surgically placed into her. Not to say that justifies flipping so abruptly, but still. Also, sorry about your bad experience with that Evil Superman at Subway. I had a similar experience at Arby's when another Evil Superman froze my mozzarella sticks with his ice breath.

I grew up with Superman as a kid.

im glad these vidoes are showing people the real superman, but there is way to many that go over the exact same points

I always felt Superman being boring was a misconception. We need the real Superman more than ever! Seriously though, it already feels like the evil-Superman trope has been done to death.

Big blue is one of my favourite and I find him as a BEST superheto figure simply because he just doing a heroic things. He is clearly good and human. btw "Superman vs the Elite" is amazing Superman story 🤩🤩🤩

I think the fact that DC themselves are afraid to even say 'Truth, Justice, and the American Way' is a problem too. If they are that ashamed of Superman's actual history, why should newer generations be expected to care about the character now.

All-Star Superman, Kingdom Come Superman etc. Really love Supes as a character.

I always loved Superman, but when the Snyder movies came out, I slowly lost my liking to him. I loved the Injustice Games, but they put a bad idea of Superman in my head. When I heard James Gunn was making a new Superman film, I was excited because I knew it was going to help reignite the love I have for the character.

If any of you want to understand superman and know why superman is an important and inspiring character go watch “the iron giant” trust me by the end you’ll understand

I use do not like superman as well but after seeing some of the movies, ect I start to understand him, batman is still my fav DC hero of all time, great video btw :)

I felt the same way for a long time

I can get behind my adventure with Superman it's not Superman and I hate how everybody always want to talk about how Schneider's virtual Superman wasn't Superman but this version is Superman The only reason why I can see somebody liking something is because it's more cheerful Superman which again pick up a comic book Superman is cheerful but a lot of his stories are serious stories especially in today's comic book landscape yeah there are a few happy-go-lucky moments but I don't like how nobody allows Superman to be the complexity like you say you wanted to be complexity but then when he is complex or when he's being in fear of people or whatever that's not interesting No it is interesting because just like this is what people see what would realistically happen if Superman did show up to the world would we be all bright friendly or what would be nervous would be questioning his motives and the answer is yes but when my ventures with Superman and I just can't get behind the fact that it is a disrespect to Superman honestly it's some kitty cooker nonsense wear it's like okay so we had an accurate Superman with Superman the animated series didn't get my adventures with Superman which is nowhere close to Superman but yet people are praising this version of Superman because of the notion of we haven't had that many triple Superman but if I miss a lot of people won't even read Superman comic books neither So it's the most weirdest thing ever like yes I am over the evil Superman but in the sniper verse he wasn't evil he was possessed by the life equation and if you read final crisis you know the life equation turns Superman evil or under the possession of whoever has the equivalent and I'm quite sure if he wasn't cut off Snyder we would have got enough full hopeful Superman but it's kind of like what can we do besides the whole happy-go-lucky Superman You know what I mean because everybody always say he's a big blue Boy scout and then when you challenge that or when you put them in another light Oh now he's not interesting or he's doing too much So I don't know it's weird but I can't get jiggy with my adventurous man it it is nowhere close to Superman every time I watch it I'm like this is only a Superman name only none of the characters act like Superman I'm sorry

I think that Man of Steel and Zack Snyder's Justice League were nice takes on Superman. BvS is meh. The reason I think it kinda worked in BvS was because some people were genuinely scared of him because they thought that he would just start killing for no reason

agreed

Tim Daly will always be favorite Clark Kent/Superman, for the same reason Christopher Daniel Barnes will always be my favorite Peter Parker/Spider-Man and why Kevin Conroy will always be my favorite Bruce Wayne/Batman (R.I.P.). Clancy Brown will always be my favorite Lex Luthor for the same reason Neil Ross will always be my favorite Norman Osborn/Green Goblin and why Mark Hamill will always be my favorite Joker.

To be fair though, while invincible gave us an evil superman, it also gave us a Superman as well. Mark is so similar to the character and reminds me of him a lot.

Superman is the character our current climate needs. Read into that as much or as little as needed.

ANYONE who ever had think or say that Superman is boring, never pick up a single COMIC, saw a single MOVIE or even tv shows, can't understand why you even put him in that list for so long until just recently, Superman the REAL superman never had been boring, only the edgelords who want evil Superman or marvel fans will say crap like that.

Animated Superman vs the elite converted me from a hater to a lover of big blue.

Yeah, I don’t really like Superman at all. When I watch the My Adventures with Superman, it made me fell in love with the character

Watch Shin Ultraman to see what realistic superman suppose to be.

Not “Truth, justice, and a better tomorrow” that’s that new modern bullshit it’s “Truth, justice, and the American way”

kinda funny how superman vs the elite from 10 years ago is still relevant thanks to modern cynical view on superheroes, also kingdom come did the joker kills loise lane first with a sadder version of superman where he just gives up

Mmmm

you do know that hating a fictional character is stupid right

*womp* *womp*

I don’t like that he’s portrayed as a wimp though we always see him getting his a$$ beat by Batman or the villain he’s fighting.

he wasnt going to be injustice evil he was going to be under darksides control

Very disappointed by the halfway mark. It's perfectly okay if you aren't a fan of Snyder's trilogy, but there were many misconceptions that have been thrown around for years present in this video. If you want to learn with a open-mind from people with more positive perspectives on this Superman, I recommend these channels: CinemaWins, Twin Perfect, Hawk of Krypton, and All Hail King Rex! and Knights of the Nerd's Table. I'm sure you'll be able to understand even if you still don't like it afterwards. Besides that, everything else was solid and agreeable!

i love superman but i hate his red trunks and wish they would go the way of the dinosaurs

Nobody’s gonna like what I’m gonna say, but for me personally, if it weren’t for Zack Snyder, I wouldn’t have gotten into Superman

If snyder made him boring therefore he is borinf

Modern superman is too much like Jesus. He needs to be more like Moses

I’m sorry is till really don’t like him. He’s still boring to me, and still overpowered.

Good video but the saying is Truth, Justice, and the American Way. Nobody tells me otherwise.

Nah he's pretty boring

I was a Batman guy since the age of 6. Totally steeped in Gotham City and its lore. Didn't like Superman at all. Thought he was dull and lame. Man of Steel (the Snyder film) changed that for me. I became a fan. The character does have the propensity to be boring in the wrong hands, but when done well there's nothing quite like it. But I'm open to different interpretations of the character's mythos unlike some of the diehards who can't seem to get past the Reeve iteration. Reeve was superlative as Superman but i don't understand the need for him to be the template going forward.

Captain America is all the good qualities of superman without the nonsense. And this doesn't change the fact that Superman is still walking plot armor. And this is just my opinion, but being all morally virtuous is boring because he lacks depth. That's why I love Ironman more than Captain America (when he's not being a psychopath).

Zack is just bum who killed dc

Henry Cavill desserts better

the thing of Superman being more "Human" is kind of dumb cuz reasons why Humans aren't as pure is cuz of Survival. Superman is indestructible he can save an old ladies cat without worrying of being late for work or falling off the tree and have thousands in debt for a stubbed toe. Reason we have Wars and fight is cuz of SURVIVAL to defend one's home or ppl. Superman can be reckless and save whoever bc there's no worry. And before some nitwit says it. No. Kryptonite doesn't even affect Superman even more, he legit fought a Kryptonite enhanced Doomsday h2h and still won and Now man has Electric powers all of a sudden from WHO knows where but y'all eat that up. There's a reason Spider-Man and Batman are top sellers bc everytime they go out there they might not come back, they have COURAGE and THAT'S what's inspiring THAT'S a FAR more human character bc even though they're bones crack and blood stains the streets they'll keep fighting to protect the innocent to protect the weak. There's a reason Death of Superman is SO popular it's cuz it embodies the philosophy of heroism that even against death you carry on. If you love Superman all love❤️ to you but I just can't Idk why but just not for me chief

Homelander is a great villain, though. Even if he is an evil superman, the show makes him more than that,

Vanilla Superman is the least interesting version in my opinion. There's no emotional weight to the character and no sense of urgency. Evil Superman, parent/mentor Superman, and antihero Superman are all more compelling takes on the character.

No, he's boring, and James Gunn is going to screw everything. Odds are Superman Legacy will tank, or, even if it does well, it will get ripped appart by none chilling critics. I haven't liked Superman since Reeves played him.

Yes he is stop

Superman is not boring. Chris Reeve did a wonderful job! Henry Cavill did as well. I had my doubts about Ben Affleck being Batman but he did a great job! Batman V Superman is 1 of my favorite super hero movies... The First Superman film from 1978 is just Awesome! 🦸🦇

Boring character. Interesting adventures.

Reasons why people hate him 1. His abilities are so Boring even a gradeschooler can make a better superhero than that. 2. His an alien but he doesn't look like an alien. 3. His weakness is a green rock that has no science explanation why his weak to it. 4. He has no character depth. No motivation at all only lois lane. 5. He wears his underpants outside like an idiot. 6.Writers tend to make him overpowered making him more boring than ever. If your going to make a superhero atleast make him close to science not some random red pantied flying Mary Sue.