Supernaked Shootout! Tuono vs. S1000R vs. Super Duke R vs. FZ-10

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6 жыл бұрын

The MO crew took the four fastest naked sportbikes representing what we like to call the "Supernaked" class on a journey over the mountains and through the deserts to a house called Chuckwalla Valley Raceway. Once there we proceeded to twist these wonderful machines into all sorts of interesting shapes as we sorted them into a comprehensive finishing order to find the best bike of the bunch.
The contenders tested here are the Aprilia Tuono V4 1100 RR vs. BMW S1000R vs. KTM 1290 Super Duke R vs. Yamaha FZ-10.
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@jamsxr
@jamsxr 6 жыл бұрын
Great review. I like the way all opinions are discussed and it’s not a pure ranking competition. The reality is, with these bikes, they’re all the nuts.
@afletra
@afletra 6 жыл бұрын
"spoiler alert, there's no losers here", damn I love that words Kevin!
@seinfeld11123
@seinfeld11123 6 жыл бұрын
thats because this is paid advertising from the manufacturers. they wont say they hate any because then their magazines wouldnt get press bikes. and that means no more cushy hotels free bikes, and customers
@afletra
@afletra 6 жыл бұрын
@jack black I dunno man, they always come with a winner all this time except this one. every streetfighter/supernaked shootout always have a winner all this time, so when they only pick 4 out of 9 bikes in this class (no z1000, gsx-s1000, brutale and monster, or EBR) and says "there's no losers here" I think they really pick the best player on this class right now. and these 4 bikes actually compete really close on each other. all the reviewers actually clearly shows their personal preference in the end of the video, so what they mean with "no losers" is maybe all the bikes in this video is just that equally good/compete with a really close gap. maybe I'm too naive :)
@MZ-bl6wg
@MZ-bl6wg 4 жыл бұрын
jack black I don't think so. I've rode all 4 of these when deciding what to get after selling my 2015 Yamaha R1M and LOVED them all,..in the end I got a new FZ10 for $9,200 out the door froma. Dealer in California that ordered too many in grey/fleur so I went FZ10 but all 4 are Sooooo close in performance there really was no looser, I LOve the Aprilia but lack of dealer support and reliability questions turned me to the much less expensive Yamaha . And yes less hp than the others but it's quicker 0-60mph than all of these so depends on where u want the power. Also, not sure where they got their #,..maybe a dud becuse the crank hp is 160 where the Tuono and ktm are 175,..that's 15hp difference , the BMW is 160 as well. Butntheri saying 25 hp difference???? Mine dynod at 148 whp stock ,..only 12 off the Tuono. Trulynthink they got a dud. 15 crank hp doesn't equate to 25 whp. It's backwards.
@VState60
@VState60 3 жыл бұрын
@@MZ-bl6wg 3/4 M4 and a flash/tune on my '19 MT-10 and it made 164hp to the rear wheel on the dyno. It's got more character and it more fun than the rest, in my humble opinion!
@donmackie3584
@donmackie3584 6 жыл бұрын
I find your guy’s videos the very most enjoyable on KZfaq. Light, honest and most importantly sincere. Keep up the great work!
@darrinrhodes7385
@darrinrhodes7385 6 жыл бұрын
I grew up here in New Zealand riding Honda's (who still make great bikes) but in 2015 I brought an Aprilia Tuono 1100RR, which was a great bike with great build quality and outstanding performance for a naked and the sound it made with the standard pipe was intoxicating, fast forward to today and I have taken delivery of the latest Tuono RR and man I thought this bike couldn't get any better, but the auto blipper downshifter, bigger brakes and the TFT dash is in another world, everything that I wanted in the last one is on the new one. I have fitted an Akrapovic pipe with the Aprilia race map and boy this thing hauls and sounds outstanding. I'm really happy with this bike well done Aprilia!
@sund5
@sund5 2 жыл бұрын
Understandable. Iam so sold. Really want one. Now I just need to figure out if I want to prioritize the cash for it :-)
@duanen2337
@duanen2337 6 жыл бұрын
I’ll stick with the Yamaha. Lower entry price, last longer, cheaper parts and maintenance.
@calloverpete1318
@calloverpete1318 6 жыл бұрын
Love the main presenter guy’s coolness and realistic real works enthusiasm. Very thorough review - like how you measure the bikes yourselves and cut through manufacturer bs like many UK and European journos don’t, as they’re hypnotised on press launches and seem to be all hoping for future PR jobs with bike manufacturers for better money than they get for papers and magazines. Really feel I will pull the trigger on a Tuono now even though there’s hardly any dealers in the uk.
@butisitthough9147
@butisitthough9147 5 жыл бұрын
only thing i dont like is when he says bitchen, like is he trying to sound cool aha
@Michael_NV
@Michael_NV 6 жыл бұрын
You guys make me glad that I went for Tuono. Great video. Thank you and Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! :-)
@RidingWithCode
@RidingWithCode 6 жыл бұрын
Aprilia all the way. I recently got converted from my FZ10 to a 17 Tuono Factory.
@808Affliction
@808Affliction 6 жыл бұрын
Cody Gomez damn that’s what up!!! I just want a fz10
@ABNRONE
@ABNRONE 5 жыл бұрын
Cody Gomez 1 year update? Where you happy with your conversion? Did you feel there were substantial differences from your transition?
@MZ-bl6wg
@MZ-bl6wg 4 жыл бұрын
ABNER ONER id loooove an update also to know how reliability has been and if he lives near a dealer. I went FZ10 becuse no dealers within 1200 miles of me and the reliability of the Tuono is about as bad as they come with expensive topnend costs for parts and service when it does go bad. A Tuono Factory is $20,000 out the door new ,..got my FZ10 new for $9,200 out the door at launch, half the price of a Tuono Factory . I like the looks of the Tuono Factory better and Ohlins , Brembo etc but not double the price better.
@MZ-bl6wg
@MZ-bl6wg 4 жыл бұрын
Cody G a better performing bike for sure BUT serious questions with reliability , and top end cost of parts and service when it goes wrong, and no dealer networks . I want a Factory 1100 badly but no Aprilia dealer within 1200 miles and a poor reliability record he me go FZ10 and I LOVED IT!!!
@MZ-bl6wg
@MZ-bl6wg 4 жыл бұрын
Here's the thing tho to take into consideration, I always wish that in these comparisons they would take into consideration reliability. I LOVE THE TUONO, BUT I live in utah USA and there's NO Aprilia dealers writhing 1,200 miles SO dealer service isn't an option and for a bike that has horrible reliability reputation has to be something to consider. If the Tuono was a very reliable bike like the Yamaha , I'd buy a Tuono and spend a bit more but when there's serious known issues with gearboxes grenading , valve jobs that are very expensive and need to be done much more regularly than anything else. The parts and service are all very expensive relatively speaking, at the top end of costs . In this compassion there's no mention of reliability or dealer support which plays a HUGE part! Also interesting to note that while they kept saying the MT10 is down on power and hownits noticeable at the track, it's the quickest 0-60mph of any of these , even the torque monster 1300 cc superduke R. So top end back straight power down a hair but quicker out of the hole and to 60mph. Also a good thing to note, I got my FZ10 new on 2017 at the launch and I paid $9,200 OUT THE DOOR! Not $12,999! A lot of dealers ordered too many and had to dump some at cost to keep dealer allocation up. I didn't have $1,400 of dealer fees the other bikes have and have the best and longest warranty with thenlargest dealer network, lowest parts and service cost and the most reliable manufacturer in the world with the FZ10. SO i went FZ10 , had it 2 years with not one issue, only sold becaue of divorce and I'm buying another one I loved it so much. As they stated also, the power is neutered by the cat and regs . I dropped the 25lb cat which is a huge weight drop , did a $130 cat delete y pipe , race air filter for that huge air box and sent the ECU to NelsTune to be flashed to my mods, came back with 178.5 hp at the crank more than the Tuono and superduke , and cost less than $600 for all of it. All in all I had a FZ10 with more horsepower than any of these for less than $10,000 ,..I can't justify spending another $9,000 for s superduke or $6,000 for a Tuono rr . If they'd said u can find the FZ10 for $9,000 new out the door , they'd of all determined the FZ10 as winner but at 13k and with the power restricting cat on I get it to a point but certainly can't say the Tuono is the winner when you can't count on it reliability wise and when something goes sideways your talking about $2,000 minimum and NO dealers around. Just my 2 cents. Again not a Yamaha fanboy, I LOVE Aprilias but the fact is they have a horrible track record for reliability , their very very expensive to repair parts and labor , and there's no dealer network unless you live in Italy. That's a problem.
@spenkystar
@spenkystar 4 жыл бұрын
In a test like this taking reliability in consideration is pretty hard for them. This is because these guys often test these bikes right after launch or ride the bikes just a couple of days. If you really want to know more about reliabillity it might be a better choice to watch some long therm reviews. I think you made a good choice with your Yamaha!
@srtspeedy4983
@srtspeedy4983 4 жыл бұрын
Reability is not a issue any more. That is 10 years back and yes the italians are not on the same level as the japanese bikes in terms off quality. But italian bikes are so sexy and is so more rewarding to own and drive. Its like owning a Lamborghini compared to a camry.
@VState60
@VState60 3 жыл бұрын
@@srtspeedy4983 You've never piloted an MT-10 I'd imagine...
@srtspeedy4983
@srtspeedy4983 3 жыл бұрын
@@VState60 yes I did own one in 2019. The aprilia is even better.
@mjc970
@mjc970 2 жыл бұрын
The Tuono is far from unreliable! 1000cc had valve spring problems but they addressed that with the 1100.
@CACoons07
@CACoons07 6 жыл бұрын
Good review, great video guys. Thanks for the quality content!
@edgaralan9917
@edgaralan9917 4 жыл бұрын
A most intelligent unbiased review review. So nice to see the sense of track testing rather than some on here who boast of shredding driving licenses. Not a good idea sitting on a bike with the centre stand taking your weight..
@crimsonpak4640
@crimsonpak4640 6 жыл бұрын
Love watching u gents evaluate various cycles
@Trinity636
@Trinity636 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent review! The Tuono is an amazing bike!
@Kischardio
@Kischardio 6 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this one! Haven’t watched the video (yet) but about 99% sure my next bike will be what Kevin Duke picks!
@OdinsSon22
@OdinsSon22 6 жыл бұрын
Kischardio well if it isn’t mr fz10 super duke! Love your videos, been watching your channel since you had the fz09. Watched your videos a lot while I was waiting for my fz09 lol
@matthewkimpton4865
@matthewkimpton4865 6 жыл бұрын
Great review guys, I took delivery of my 2017 s1000r sport back in March when it landed here and Iv been in love with it ever since 🌹 I call it my fast sports tourer and it’s becoming more and more Carbon with every passing month. Stay safe, Matt the fan from the UK
@fasj400
@fasj400 5 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, thanks for this nice video, because now I know what will be my next bike: BMW S1000 R!
@fz10rider26
@fz10rider26 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice review. I've been riding for 27 years and have owned a few big bore bikes. The main reason I purchased the FZ 10 is Yamaha makes the most bullet proof bike on the planet IMO. Great price. Great street bike. The most fun I have ever had on a motorcycle!
@sguerrero2000
@sguerrero2000 6 жыл бұрын
how long can you ride with a full tank?
@fz10rider26
@fz10rider26 6 жыл бұрын
The low fuel light will start flashing at about 105 mi. You can go 130 mi. before you really have find a gas station
@neurozero
@neurozero 5 жыл бұрын
Yamaha Honda and Kawasaki are most reliable. I have owned about 30 bikes. 2 current bikes are vtx1800 and cbr1000rr. I had bad luck with Suzuki both with gs500 and hayabusa.
@MZ-bl6wg
@MZ-bl6wg 4 жыл бұрын
FZ10Rider hey fz10rider! 👍👍 agreed ! I almost went Tuono Factory but over $20,000 out the door!!!! Poor reliability record and no dealer within 1200 miles of me so I went FZ10 and found one a week after launch in California for $9,200 OUT THE DOOR! $3,700 under MSRP. Cali dealer ordered 12 of them for launch , 9 in grey /fleur and hadn't sold one in the first week so they put 2 of the grey on cycletrader at cost ($9,200) to keep dealer allocation up, I found it on cycle trader and had money transferred the next day site unseen. Owned 2 years and loved the hell out of it!
@edgaralan9917
@edgaralan9917 4 жыл бұрын
Sometime some wind deflection is useful.
@arttee7817
@arttee7817 6 жыл бұрын
Comprehensive and practical. Good for older blokes , not purely about the top end speed
@corbelius6
@corbelius6 6 жыл бұрын
Great job guys, Keep up the great work.
@geoffpoole1972
@geoffpoole1972 6 жыл бұрын
Great review guys. I owned the Aprilia V4R Tuono 1000, now have the the 2014 BMW S1000R. You give objective tests on all the bikes. Nice work! :)
@ohmymeatballs
@ohmymeatballs Жыл бұрын
Which do you prefer?
@sameryounis909
@sameryounis909 6 жыл бұрын
Everyone loves that Tuono, and justifiably so 😍😍
@Gersao2axe
@Gersao2axe 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. Now i can stay awake at night dreaming i own one of these bikes
@techtube3831
@techtube3831 4 жыл бұрын
Just bought the Tuono 1100 V4 Factory. Thank you gentlemen for affirming my purchase! It if wasn't for this stupid virus I'd have my Acra Full titanium evo exhaust (complete with Race ecu flash) on er already ☹. One hell of a way to social distance though, frickin' Love It!
@rideforrestride
@rideforrestride 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent!!! This was super well done cheers to all you test riders and a tip of the hat to your camera crew and video editor! Merry Christmas!
@HOOLIGANfilmz
@HOOLIGANfilmz 6 жыл бұрын
You guys just supported my love of my 03 Z1000
@tgwilson89
@tgwilson89 6 жыл бұрын
I love these shootouts! You guys always do a great job! I love the super bike category but when I’m older these may be a good option! So I always like hearing everyone’s opinion.
@zacharysandberg
@zacharysandberg 6 жыл бұрын
It's Christmas eve and I'm on my amazing 2013 Tuono :D
@Rayk76
@Rayk76 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent review
@quentinsemidey8183
@quentinsemidey8183 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys great review I have been thinking about getting a aprilia tuono and I’m pretty sure I’m going to after this review
@prasetyoion3436
@prasetyoion3436 6 жыл бұрын
When I heard S1000r and SuperDuke, the first thing that i remember is Royal Jordanian.
@SlavaOrlovJS
@SlavaOrlovJS 6 жыл бұрын
All you need is RJ km\h ))
@Youtube_Globetrotter
@Youtube_Globetrotter 6 жыл бұрын
If you said Husqvarna Nuda I would agree, becaus that's his favorite bike ever
@natarajanshanker5103
@natarajanshanker5103 6 жыл бұрын
Great review as always, thanks for this! But a couple of suggestions: let's not talk about horsepower so much, it means something but at the same time not so much. There are times when a bike with half the horsepower can be twice the fun, depending on the type of riding. Instead of spec sheet information, what is really useful in a video would be things like: - How easy / comfortable is it to lane-split each bike through say, an hour of LA traffic? At the end of doing that, which bike would you pick to go to work every day for the next year or two? - Which one feels more relaxed (or frenzied) at everyday speeds? - How accessible is each bike across a range of rider heights? (put the shortest tester on each bike, doing emergency stops on an off-ramp with a lot of road camber / road crown) - Speak to maintenance. Which one needs valve checks often, which has the best dealer network, which is most DIY-friendly etc. - Which one feels more *fun* in daily riding? (not necessarily the same as which one is fastest) But again, thanks for this great content, I really am nitpicking on free content, that's not the intention, just a few suggestions that's all.
@ABNRONE
@ABNRONE 5 жыл бұрын
Natarajan Shanker honestly your opinion is exactly what I was watching the video for... I too wish it was more broken down this way as well as I’m looking to purchase one of these options within a few months.
@INNOVVDashCam
@INNOVVDashCam 6 жыл бұрын
Good video ! Thank you all! So nice !
@jerryx2000
@jerryx2000 6 жыл бұрын
Check out the Tuono '17 Akrapoviç vs stock sound: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/osiJlsherrqUpKc.html
@dougalmanzar
@dougalmanzar 6 жыл бұрын
S1000r electronic suspension and agility really are a class above the others in terms of providing real world comfort and pace enhancing feature. Ive ridden them all and have a 2016 s1000r WITHOUt the wheels and even there the agility advantage is noticeable --easily!
@gabrieljohannson6777
@gabrieljohannson6777 6 жыл бұрын
Nice review gents. Aprilia is a special bike. They are all fantastic bikes.
@steveadelman8865
@steveadelman8865 6 жыл бұрын
Great review. thank you
@kernal85
@kernal85 6 жыл бұрын
Superduke all day long for me.
@motorsavage3835
@motorsavage3835 6 жыл бұрын
Nice review guys.
@pistolpete6321
@pistolpete6321 6 жыл бұрын
Great video and review. Can’t go wrong with any of those bikes! Would like to have seen how the Monster 1200 stacked up against those bikes as well!
@SeanAlexanderJournalist
@SeanAlexanderJournalist 6 жыл бұрын
It couldn't touch them.
@badger4361
@badger4361 6 жыл бұрын
MT10 all day long for me, but they are ALL amazing.
@Shaiy007
@Shaiy007 6 жыл бұрын
Wonderful review. I'd love to have ANY one of these bikes and I'd like be in heaven! If I could choose, I'd probably pick up the BMW.
@maxmillion125
@maxmillion125 6 жыл бұрын
I really liked the fact that you guys included the Gas milage for all the bikes, you should do that all the time from now on for all your reviews!
@mondavi14
@mondavi14 6 жыл бұрын
Love my FZ10..it's a Yamaha, bullet prove. My 3rd FZ, all the Gen's. the latest one is sick!!!
@sighheinrich
@sighheinrich 6 жыл бұрын
Mr. Duke always have the fastest shades of the bunch!
@heavymetalboi
@heavymetalboi 6 жыл бұрын
I am a bit biased since I got the 2017 superduke. But I threw full akra evo 2 on it and a map. A whole lot of powerparts and I just love it! I think it looks so much better then the rest.
@koosktmsupermoto455
@koosktmsupermoto455 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks you've helped me make up my mind. Being 1.96 meters I've bought the KTM Koos Netherlands
@spenkystar
@spenkystar 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Koos gaat dat goed? Ik ben 2 meter en een paar centimeters, ik rij nu een ktm 990 supermoto maar wil ooit over naar de 1290 superduke! Vette machine
@achimduc3938
@achimduc3938 5 жыл бұрын
I Love my Tuono Factory. Its very fast on Track.
@MZ-bl6wg
@MZ-bl6wg 4 жыл бұрын
AchimDuke but how often is it in the shop? Do u have a dealer near you? I love the Factory but no Aprilia dealers and hear a lot of bad about reliability. Also double the cost of the fz10.
@recpro7847
@recpro7847 6 жыл бұрын
Been riding Aprilia for 9 years now. Still the best bike for the money, new or old. The Gen 1 and 2 are the best kept secret in motorcycling, whether we are talking Tuono or RSV.
@suereed
@suereed 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks great review.
@putitupinya
@putitupinya 5 жыл бұрын
Just bought the 2018 MT-10 left over for $10,799... and I love this thing. It may be down a few hp to the others in this list, but riding it in the real world you'll never feel that... it's A BEAST!! Love the Tuono, but Yamaha for longevity and price... hard to beat.
@Youtube_Globetrotter
@Youtube_Globetrotter 6 жыл бұрын
The Touno and the Super Duke is the most interesting for me.
@SA-zv1ol
@SA-zv1ol 5 жыл бұрын
2019 KTM super Duke gonna rock
@sguerrero2000
@sguerrero2000 6 жыл бұрын
These types of reviews are great, not focused only on specs. The overall riding experience is what most buyers are looking for. Sometimes you don't have the opportunity (depending on your location) to ride all the bikes under the same condition, or even to ride them at all. For me the nearest Aprillia dealer is 400 miles away, so thinking ahead, the availability of spare parts and service is a decision factor . In that realm Yamaha, BMW, KTM are ranked in that order of service availability. You want to keep the 2/3 year guarantee on these bikes no matter what. More HP more electronics to control them, more electronics more expensive to fix. By looks 1. Aprillia 2.BMW 3.FZ10 4 KTM (I'm not a fan of the headlight). Price, up front sticker price can scare away potential buyers, but don't let that stop you, there might be the right deal waiting for you. For me BMW S1000r is the bike I'll be buying soon. I'm a beginner rider - 15,000 miles on a FZ07. 80% City - high traffic 19% Roads 1%Track ++++I would say any of these bikes are for city/ high traffic/ filtering riding, they'll get too hot.+++++ this is my opinion.
@djnickpeters
@djnickpeters 6 жыл бұрын
I have 3 of the 4 bikes in my garage, you really can't go wrong with any of these bikes but I would also choose the Aprilia, I love my 2017 factory.
@pomplardpanam8591
@pomplardpanam8591 6 жыл бұрын
Hi bro may be u can answer me . with all the full Akrapovic shits Akra Map included without the catalyst and canister and sas sytem removed you can have about 174 HP at rear wheel for the Superduke 2.0 Do you know about the others bike if u do approximately the same in HP ?
@Tripped11
@Tripped11 6 жыл бұрын
That is a tad high, 165ish ish with the full exhaust and akra flash, to get over the 170 mark you are going to need the airbox and a custom tune.
@MZ-bl6wg
@MZ-bl6wg 4 жыл бұрын
Pomplardpanam decat y pipe , race filter and NelsTune gets 178.5 crank hp for the FZ10 yes crank not whp. 167ish at the wheels. Their FZ10 was a dud, mine dynod 148.5 hp stock. Far from 135.
@VState60
@VState60 3 жыл бұрын
@@pomplardpanam8591 164 RWP on the dyno on my MT-10 w/ the exact same mods for my '19.
@pomplardpanam8591
@pomplardpanam8591 3 жыл бұрын
That is nice bro but now for me this is not enough i have used Pizza Pani V4 2K18 from Bologna forza la pizeriakzfaq.info/love/PO1DskJHi5OKrX3BaK1cXAvideos?view=0&sort=dd&shelf_id=0&view_as=subscriber i'm about to upgrade that shit in few month N i predict 190 BWHP at the wheel stock N with my futur upgrades it will be close to 200 BWHP With love from Paris
@rebeccadg5780
@rebeccadg5780 5 жыл бұрын
im getting the tuano 1100 V4 factory end of april.Great reviews.
@sebastiaanhoenderdos7458
@sebastiaanhoenderdos7458 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, congratulations! Amazing bike!
@ruysk
@ruysk 3 жыл бұрын
I think the Aprilia Tuono more or less have won every shootout since the first V2 in 2006. They really take the experience from the racetrack to streetbikes, and they look quality when you see them upfront close.
@paulmorris6914
@paulmorris6914 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome review, guys! I’m looking forward to seeing a updated review for 2019...perhaps with the Aprilia Tuono Factory?? I am seriously considering the 2019 Aprilia Tuono Factory for my next bike...trading in my 2014 Kawasaki ZR1000GEFA...nice upgrade I think!!
@chrisvodka2412
@chrisvodka2412 6 жыл бұрын
07:51 SuperDuke shown but the awesome sound comes from the Aprilia. I simply love the Tuono.
@adamstratford6740
@adamstratford6740 5 жыл бұрын
Yup Tuono for me boys ☝️Adam 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
@bryanwalsh999
@bryanwalsh999 3 жыл бұрын
Aprilia YES! I have a 2013 RSV4 Facotry SBK SE and a 2020 Tuono Factory. Amazing machine with the best sounding engine ever put in a streetbike. Smiles for miles.
@trevorgerland2254
@trevorgerland2254 6 жыл бұрын
Well done gents. I always enjoy watching the shootouts. I’m torn between an adventure bike (F800/850 GS, Husky 701 Enduro) or a super naked. Two totally different classes of motorcycle, but can’t make up my mind as to if I want to go on an adventure ALL the time, or sprint around town. Nonetheless, very well produced video!
@aluisious
@aluisious 6 жыл бұрын
Great review (and great job you guys have). The Super Duke definitely wins in the looks department. The fuel economy results are kind of staggering, 31 mpg for the bike with the smallest engine and least power is pitiful. I have to admit I've hated Yamahas since I babysat a 2002 FZ1 through all it's stupid problems and Yamaha doesn't fail to keep giving me reasons. I don't know what it is about big twins but they seem to have legs these days, my Multistrada gets MPG numbers that seem like I must be doing the calculation wrong. I've had 51 MPG doing 75 mph all day through Nevada and Utah, and it "drops" to 41 if I ride it as hard as I dare up gnarly mountains at home. 51! That's a number that would be a marketing bullet point for a Honda 500cc twin.
@rapidres5496
@rapidres5496 6 жыл бұрын
Its got to be Aprilia all the way! Im biased i have a tuono factory 2017. From the go it was mind blowing. What a stable and epic machine. Roll on 2018 snd lets eat some tarmac! Chiao 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹
@aimeYM1
@aimeYM1 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Rapid R. How is your Tuono in low traffic in town? Is it unrideable under 20-30 m/h as reported? I understand that Tuono is enjoyable only if the rev are above 6,000? Is this true? Do you commute on your bike in town? How is your experience? Thanks
@rapidres5496
@rapidres5496 6 жыл бұрын
Aimé Yann Hi mate, my tuono is really good through town i use clutch to smooth ride out. I dont commute on it but go for very loong rides (300 miles a go)
@aimeYM1
@aimeYM1 6 жыл бұрын
I plan to buy one. I was wondering if it will be the right choice as I live in central London. I used to have a Speed Triple R, and if the Tuono is as smooth as the Speed is in town - low traffic, I am going to love it. Thanks for your reply and Merry Christmas.
@rapidres5496
@rapidres5496 6 жыл бұрын
Aimé Yann for central london it will be good just becarefull of the moped thieves i have two friends who commute on bmw s1000rr and r1m and booth have had attempted roberies. Make sure your key is covered at traffic lights when you buy.
@Csirkefoga
@Csirkefoga 6 жыл бұрын
Aimé Yann Tuono ‘17 Factory owner here as well. This bike is not really for city use. It likes to go fast, and go through the gears dynamically. There have been map refreshes and I’d say it’s quite nimble already with proper fueling and stable at slow speed ride. But You’ll feel as if You were driving a Viper and tiptoeing on the gas. Man, this thing wants to go as fu@%! It turns You into a hooligan. So if You’re a type of guy, who can resist the temptation and be OK with the less satisfying sound under 5K rpm, then this bike is for You. But as someone, who used to own a CB1000r and switched to a Tuono Factory I can tell You, it’s like switching between a pony and a stallion. You want to rip every time!!! 😂😂
@eekhead1
@eekhead1 6 жыл бұрын
If the FZ-10 with those numbers belongs in here, so does the 2017 Monster 1200 :O Great comparison!
@SeanAlexanderJournalist
@SeanAlexanderJournalist 6 жыл бұрын
The Monster 1200 doesn't have the racetrack performance of the FZ-10, and can't touch the other bikes in this class. It's just a streetbike.
@fyorbane
@fyorbane 6 жыл бұрын
The Monster 1200R is more track focused than the Yam. And has a similar amount of power.
@yoc14
@yoc14 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I'm currently looking for a new "used" bike and am pretty torn between the FZ( MT) 10 and the BMW S1000r. I only ride on the street, would be using it for commuting (freeway) and back road twistys; any extra thoughts on how the two compare? I plan to keep the bike for the next 5+ years so maintenance cost is also a small factor. Any advice, from anyone, would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
@faizmarusan179
@faizmarusan179 6 жыл бұрын
You guys should do touring shootout like versys vs tracer07/09 vs triumph xcx/xrx vs nc750 vs bmw gs750/gs850. Cant wait for that video😁
@awdeveau
@awdeveau 6 жыл бұрын
Definitely Aprilia, and considering you can get a 17 in the 13k range right now it's definitely worth buying. I bought mine in September and have already put 5k miles on it. Just can't stay off it, and besides chewing up the rear tires it hasn't skipped a beat!
@ronnygentile6826
@ronnygentile6826 3 жыл бұрын
For the street Mt10 I love that cross plain sound !!! For the track Aprilia !
@CPUspeed
@CPUspeed 5 жыл бұрын
This is missing from "recent shootout" playlist. Btw it is interesting to see the bikes lined up like this on the track while you were talking. You get a great idea of the size of the bikes and ergos, check the height of the handle bars, cool.
@motokane2146
@motokane2146 6 жыл бұрын
MT-10/FZ-10....Bumble Bee on 2 wheels...
@howheels
@howheels 6 жыл бұрын
The Aprilia is so good it beats the other bikes without being in the top Factory trim. What an awesome bike.
@AugmentedGravity
@AugmentedGravity 6 жыл бұрын
Franklin Schwartz doesent beat the Super Duke in either looks or preformance.
@iTxip
@iTxip 6 жыл бұрын
Looks are subjective but not in performance, the aprilia has more power and its faster, period. Faster in straights, corners, street and track. And Im not even talking about the factory, just the regular one. The factory its the Daddy in this class
@AugmentedGravity
@AugmentedGravity 6 жыл бұрын
it isnt. the duke has both more hp, more torque and more cc. And it has all the electronics you could want, cornering ABS etc...
@iTxip
@iTxip 6 жыл бұрын
just more torque not more horsepower, measure it at the wheel and the aprilia has 4-5 more hp, its just the fastest bike in class followed by the bmw. And let me know when KTM figures out how to adjust the electronics on the fly, last time I checked you had to stop, really, im not kidding. Meanwhile i can adjust TC at any time instantly and just have to pull the clutch for engine maps. One hell of a bike the Ktm just not as good as the Aprilia
@AugmentedGravity
@AugmentedGravity 6 жыл бұрын
go to KTM's and aprilias website, the aprilia measures in at 175.something horsepower, and the duke comes in at 177.something horsepower. The duke also has about 1300cc's at its disposal, compared with the aprilias 1100. And it has more torque.
@supergixxers
@supergixxers 6 жыл бұрын
great review guys, but for me its the bmw s1000r because I own one merryChristmas
@SAVAGE87able
@SAVAGE87able 6 жыл бұрын
Nice to see my FZ10 up there with the big boys! I am going to make it a mission next year to go test ride the Tuono next year I have to see what the fuss is about. NOTE TO SELF DO NOTE BUY ANOTHER BIKE :)
@jhawk3910
@jhawk3910 6 жыл бұрын
TheChosen_1 unless you plan on riding the bike at the track, you really won’t miss a lot of what the Tuono offers over the FZ-10. The Tuono is a beast on the track.
@michaelebbage9166
@michaelebbage9166 6 жыл бұрын
J Hawk I'd agree - I love my Tuono V4, but the Yamaha is a great, great road bike. The best way I've heard the Tuono described is as medicine for sports bike owners who want a naked. It's less comfortable / practical - but in return you not stepping too far away from superbike expectations.
@CycleCruza
@CycleCruza 4 жыл бұрын
I now own a 17 Tuono V4 factory, fun bike but it's not really that much comfortable than my 12' cbr1000rr and it will heat you up like an oven unlike my cbr. I need to try owning the SDR next! So far my former Ducati XDiavel S was the most fun and comfortable around town but I don't trust the reliability and parts are too dam expensive, so I sold it but I miss riding it and the ladies loved it.
@SupaAwesomeFace
@SupaAwesomeFace 4 жыл бұрын
Because of you i have the 08' CBR 600 RR!
@Parakitedude
@Parakitedude 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, this gave me the answer I was lacking. Ill go for the MT10, gsxs1000 or the S1000R . Most likely the BMW..
@erixlast6020
@erixlast6020 3 жыл бұрын
@@Parakitedude bmw engine can eat themself easy, cams n shit, mt10 is much fun wheele n stuff and reliability
@guzzisan21
@guzzisan21 6 жыл бұрын
All of them are appealing in some way
@WozzasSportsCruiserRides
@WozzasSportsCruiserRides 6 жыл бұрын
Great review of four of the best Street fighters. The Tuono sounds like a great bike to ride. I've been wondering how a earlier model would compare to the newer on. The MT-10 Yamaha after the Ecu flash is much better to ride than standard form. Next year I'll have to test ride a Touno.
@a1cdoddy
@a1cdoddy 6 жыл бұрын
The MT-10 wins in every competition purely on price. I got mine brand new for $10,700 or $13,000 out the door. And yes it puts out less power because the ECU is restricted from the factory. After mods my bike is an absolute animal.
@a1cdoddy
@a1cdoddy 6 жыл бұрын
SunzOffski the Suzuki is $2,000 less bike in my opinion.
@a1cdoddy
@a1cdoddy 6 жыл бұрын
Blurry Face why do you never see the GSXS compared to the Tuono, Superduke, and S1000R then? MT-10 is on another level.
@iTxip
@iTxip 6 жыл бұрын
In some european countries the MT10 costs about the same as the aprilia, just saying for almost 15k its underpowered, the suzuki on the other hand its really good bang for buck liter bike
@tuyenhoang5546
@tuyenhoang5546 6 жыл бұрын
Saving up to trade in the monster 821 for the tuono 17!
@shantanusharma489
@shantanusharma489 6 жыл бұрын
Tuyen Hoang all the best man
@tuyenhoang5546
@tuyenhoang5546 6 жыл бұрын
Got it!
@dry509
@dry509 6 жыл бұрын
Cool shades and jacket.
@7452
@7452 6 жыл бұрын
Good review but for about $200 you can re flash the black box and gain an instant 15 hp which gets it close to some of these bikes. I've got one and it easily pulls the front wheel up at 100 mph
@jurgenbuntinx1
@jurgenbuntinx1 6 жыл бұрын
Joe Smith superduke even pulls the front wheel in 5th gear stock
@7452
@7452 6 жыл бұрын
I prefer Japanese bikes and their relatively low maintenance costs. I'm sure the Aprillia is going to cost far more in general maintenance and when something breaks.
@cafeandfighters
@cafeandfighters 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe, but it will all ways be ugly as fuck
@curvecrazy
@curvecrazy 5 жыл бұрын
Nobody is figuring the cost of electronics repairs are they? Ouch. Can’t fix it we don’t know what’s wrong. It’s gonna be this much $$$$ for such and so module. We hope that will fix it. LOL
@GaryJohnWalker1
@GaryJohnWalker1 6 жыл бұрын
Tuono top of my wish list but reckon the s1000r is the one I'd want to live with. Especially with the forged wheels just to get that smaller bike agility.
@AMPJ08
@AMPJ08 6 жыл бұрын
The best! Tuono!!!!
@DEllis24RIP
@DEllis24RIP 5 жыл бұрын
Just bought the 2018 Superduke have 100 miles on it cant quit smiling ..
@Neriak666
@Neriak666 6 жыл бұрын
I have a MT10 (FZ10) and it’s the best performance bike I’ve ever had.
@kelseyjames6502
@kelseyjames6502 6 жыл бұрын
I love all these bikes, but if you're shopping with a price in mind you definitely have to go with the fz-10, especially when you have to think about the cost of ownership and servicing
@Antmanmoto
@Antmanmoto 4 жыл бұрын
I now own that same color/year April is Tuono 1100rr and it is scary fast!!!
@browie316
@browie316 6 жыл бұрын
Silly how the FZ-10 is restricted in the states. I really like the Aprilla and SD but bought the yamaha for the price, great value.
@BlueHokage
@BlueHokage 6 жыл бұрын
That Socal fire smoke makes this look like a video from the 90's.
@harleysrule2176
@harleysrule2176 6 жыл бұрын
Great review guys. I've not ridden them all yet... and the fact that I am fairly tall 290lbs of muscle means that I should like the torque of the KTM for accelerating weight the best... but my Italian half likes the Tuono. Truth be told, I would go for the BMW; great agile fast bike with long running life and a decent dealer network.
@Allanfrancisxavier
@Allanfrancisxavier 6 жыл бұрын
Nice
@JpOcDenver
@JpOcDenver 6 жыл бұрын
That's right. Tuono: il campione 😏👊🏻✊🏻🏍💨
@sphinxsway
@sphinxsway 6 жыл бұрын
Hello good sirs ! Very nice video and really usefull comparisons! I have 1 suggestion though , that you might have a sideway shot of the bike with the rider on it so you can clearly see the rider position. Thanks :) myself i'm torn between all of these yet to pick one
@wimmm72
@wimmm72 5 жыл бұрын
That vista point looks awesome,where they discuss the bikes at the 1m40 mark.Any of you guys know where that is?
@AbdulWahab-pb5qm
@AbdulWahab-pb5qm 6 жыл бұрын
Rj is a london encouter... man he is so good wat a fantastic rider..i think super duke is the best bike in 2017...
@Bhg265
@Bhg265 6 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for your shootout, did not disappoint. Standard Aprilia circle jerk- can't fault ya, there's a reason for the universal praise. I am surprised the big man was so unaffected by the ergos though, at 5'11 245 a 15 min ride on the aprilia crushed my wrists- the only deal breaker in an otherwise badass package :(.
@rstrakovsky
@rstrakovsky 6 жыл бұрын
Bars are pretty easy to swap if that was the only issue.
@travisallistairpayne
@travisallistairpayne 6 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Hatef Try out a Monster 1200. I'm 6' @ 250 and I can ride mine for most of the day. Although more than 2 hours highway riding is a little stressful on the legs.
@tuyenhoang5546
@tuyenhoang5546 6 жыл бұрын
Not their fault you're fat tho
@Bhg265
@Bhg265 6 жыл бұрын
Tuyen Hoang lol! Problem is after years of wrestling in college it's not fat weighing me down so much, if it was that'd be an easy fix :/. I wouldn't expect Aprilia to accommodate people like me though you are definitely right- Not the average Italian here.
@tuyenhoang5546
@tuyenhoang5546 6 жыл бұрын
Lol try out the super duke r bro
@heykat18
@heykat18 6 жыл бұрын
I never go to the track so it was the Super Duke R for me. If I very became interested in track days I'd buy a R1M.
@Mauserixi
@Mauserixi 6 жыл бұрын
Wind protection and wind protection.. They are naked bikes!
@Ciph4n
@Ciph4n 6 жыл бұрын
yeah i stopped listening to him when he said wind protection
@sarazelli
@sarazelli 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly. When will these reviewers learn?
@retipserjayzoom
@retipserjayzoom 6 жыл бұрын
Sara Zelli I guess when you look at the specs of Ktm and the speeds and power that come with it, maybe there is something far more than street the bikes are capable of , and wind protection just makes it a value addition
@aluisious
@aluisious 6 жыл бұрын
I loved the Super Duke but I wanted long trip wind protection, baggage, and a bit better passenger accommodations. That was before the GT came out so I got a Multistrada. I wasn't disappointed. You could butcher a Super Duke into being something it wasn't meant to be, but really, buy it knowing you're buying an engine with wheels and that you're going to be happy spending $18k to bomb around local roads and you won't be disappointed.
@tuyenhoang5546
@tuyenhoang5546 6 жыл бұрын
Nah you won't appreciate the wind protection until you take on long freeway ride
@pomplardpanam8591
@pomplardpanam8591 6 жыл бұрын
hi bros by the way with all the full Akrapovic shits Akra Map included without the catalyst and canister and sas sytem removed you can have about 174 HP at rear wheel for the Superduke 2.0 Do you know about the others bike if u do approximately the same in HP ? Kind regards from Paris.
@cuongkim3810
@cuongkim3810 6 жыл бұрын
Ktm for me all day :))
@mrvwbug4423
@mrvwbug4423 6 жыл бұрын
At 15 grand the Tuono is a steal. The FZ-10 would be a real good second choice ... if it was about 500-1000 cheaper. Once you've added aftermarket goodies to the FZ-10 to get it to the level of the rest of them you are basically at 15 grand into the bike. Meanwhile with the Tuono, literally just get the bike, slap an Akrapovic system on it and call it a day.
@pvkjhilk8323
@pvkjhilk8323 6 жыл бұрын
a bike with plastic panels and a goofy look that will not age well is never a steal at $15k. nice bike yes but overpriced as hell
@tuyenhoang5546
@tuyenhoang5546 6 жыл бұрын
Pvk Jhilk wtf how is it overpriced when lots of ppl calling it best p/p? Also you can get it for 15k otd almost anywhere in the US for a brand new '17 model. It's a V4 with TFT display, QS, brembo m50 and really good Sach suspension. So which part of this bike is overpriced?
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