about the other half of asia

Watchmojo should do a list about that.

We've learned our history well :)

Gengis khan made mongolia right

Tbh we are all related to each other by just being humans lmfao

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Ulysses I hope he is also the next big avengers villain

Keep it 💯😎

Oh yeah

In "All Hail the King" Marvel One-Shot it was confirmed that The Mandarin always existed and is still alive.

IT HAPPENED XD

@@master03351 I'm excited :D

Shang Chi!!!

Fits way better as a Shang Chi villain!

Hopefully he’s a cool character in the Shang-Chi movie!

It's the thumbnail so your argument is invalid.

I know right

i know righttt!!!! i was so pissed that they cancelled season 3 ;(((

I agree

Clickbait TTuTT

Marshanah T. Too right.

+Marshanah T. actually, they released a short after the film's release, of the fake mandarin in prison and then being kidnapped by the REAL mandarin's men for "daring to pose as the mandarin". he's probably going to appear in one of the newer movies

LeviathanTB Really?! :O That's freakin' awesome! I've got to watch that clip.

+Marshanah T. Marvel One Shot: All Hail the King

+Marshanah T. Just need to forget the movie ever happened to the Mandarin.

Shang chis dad now hahah

that is true but iron man 3 is still a good movie none the less

that is also true probably the best out of the 3 ironically

dididi3368 I guess I can agree to that but it kind of sucked how at the end (Spoiler for those who still haven't seen the film) Iron man couldn't defeat the mandarin

Hell yeah it did!! Damn Hollywood ruined it!

me AND mines yeah they should have stuck to the source material I mean penny beating the mandarin was extremely lame

Don't worry. It turns out that the mandarin is in the movie isn't the real one. He and Killian stole his name and made a mockery of it and now the real mandarin wants to meet the actor who mocked him personally. It's all explained in the marvel one-shot "hail the king". We might be seeing the real mandarin later in the MCU.

Lol yup

Yeah, the film did a great job of "butchering" a heavily racist, poorly written character that would've been suicide to show on screen anywhere near his original portrayal during an age where spitting on entire ethnic groups is unfairly thought of as uncool.

OriginalityImpaired Go be a pessimist somewhere else. I was talking about how the mandarin in the comics is an all powerful being and the one in the movie is literally a joke. I don't give a shit if he's stereotyped.

OriginalityImpaired Yes because no one could ever make a champion of the people who America has been stepping on unjustly for years and have a beef with the man who has revolutionized the field of how to fuck up tiny villages in the middle of the dessert for years make or seem interesting. We've had Thor and Avengers showing off how what we consider 'magic' to actually be alien technology which could have been the perfect explanation of how that a person with a fierce drive behind him could be able to rival a billionaire playboy with near limitless time and energy to make suits of armor that have been specifically tasked with tackling new threats just with 10 rings found in an abandoned alien shuttle that crash landed who knows how long ago. Then finally, no one could have ever given the Mandarin a point to his brutality, a reason why he is the way he is, it isn't like he was the champion to the people or anything, it isn't like he could have stood up for people that have been getting their shit pushed in, it isn't like he couldn't have been on the end of that poop up the ass himself and be then able to present a good case of why he feels like America needs to stop pushing the shit up his homes ass, Iron Man getting dragged in because of though Tony has stopped making weapons, Tony and his father still had decades worth of bloodshed stained on their hands with how many people have died because of their inventions. Totally we couldn't of had that for a movie, nope, no how, there was obviously no other option than to have a drugged out scapegoat of a man who pretends to be the Mandarin as the real villain turns out to be that one guy from Extremis that is far less popular and liked than Mandarin. Obviously you have brought you're A game reasoning skills to the table as why in Iron Man 3 it wasn't the villain portrayals that turned a potentially awesome movie depicting Iron Man clashing against his characters equal to the Joker that made it the movie we got. Thank you, and good night

MARVEL is fixing that mistake now. Watch the One-Shot "All Hail the King."

Did you watch the last 30 minutes?

sonicjrjr14 killian is a adapted firebrand

C'mon, that's not even him. That's just a hoax for Killian's A.I.M.. The ORIGINAL and REAL version of the Mandarin never made it up the blue screen.

+England Goals bunch of K-list marvel villains

+Matt Nielsen me to

Matt Nielsen I would have used the Mandarin armor from Armored Adventures in a version of Iron Man 3 where the Mandarin wasn't a complete waste

Me too

Ya true

Yes

I am he is Gene

Nothing to complain about? That movie was fans's only chance of seeing IRON MAN and Mandarin fight on the big screen. We never will see them fight. There is still a lot to complain.

@@antona.8659 Yes, that is a very good point. Hopefully there will be some references in the film relating from what went down in Iron Man 3. Still, it would've been cool to see Iron Man fight the real Mandarin.

@@antona.8659 I hope we see a iron man trilogy reboot with Iron Man vs The Mandarin. But similar to Nolan Batman and Raimi Spider man were its not tied into a universe like MCU/DCEU.

Oh, you mean the one ironman movie that will never be.

Champe Ramírez yeah the mandarin is dumb in the movie and iron 4 is fictional

i was so pissed with what they did in iron man 3 and i thought all hail the king was a good twist but i hope they expand on that

i hopr they listen to you.. because ironman 3 was stupid

How can there be a Iron Man 4 if they blew up all his suits in Iron Man 3...such a stupid movie.

Best Mandarin hands down ;-;

Yes, he looked awesome in that one!

He looks so cool in that one

Genesis the best mandarine

Too bad he won't be Chinese

Dude, that's what I meant?

Yet I don't see any chance they are going to change that

Li Cheng Although in the comics he's only half chinese. His mother being English, his father being a descendent of Genghis Kahn.

I wonder why no one has come up yet with creating new villains? Times have change :)

I dont really think that he was the mandarin they were hiding him in the shadows probably controlling the fire guy

+Stacey Vermilyea pffft. if he was really "upset" he coulda stopped him long ago when he was running his TV campaigns

***** Not if he wants to remain anonymous. Better to wait and let the more public "superheroes" capture the guy and the get his revenge from the shadows. Hopefully the real Mandarin will show himself in a future MCU movie or tv series.

+Stacey Vermilyea hmmm... good point

I hope he'll be in the new series Marvel's Most Wanted.

Stacey Vermilyea how they gonna do him without reprising the racist caricature of the 60's that is his source material?

CajunKhan I knew a little about Iron Man before the first movie, and I saw the Mandarin as a Fu Manchu type of character that used some kind of weird technology to compete with Iron Man's tech.

+handsomebrick, well, that's bullshit, because Mandarin was not based of Fu Manchu. Stan Lee based him of the Flash Gordon villain Ming the Merciless. And after the Silver Age of comics, The Mandarin became crime-lord type of character who used it to facilitate his grander agendas and who still deep down had the mind of a conqueror who felt he was entitled to rule and shape the world as he saw fit given his liniege as he always has been.

Casuals need to know the wrong things first to get them wrong. Duh

Like someone gonna read that

Me. Although he was altered to be less offensive.

The best design

hello from the future and yes the real Mandarin is coming

its been 7 years HAHAHHA

@@ishraq7050 LET'S GOOOO

I wish Tony and The Mandarin actually met because Wu is a very interesting character but oh well Spoilers He dies so yeah

They fucking turned the Mandarin into an actor with a BRITISH accent!! WTF were they thinking?? The 10 power rings didnt even work!! OMG!! ARGGGH!

The whole terrorist thing was a nice flip, but they should have stopped there!

He's half british, half mongolian, though born in China, it is perfectly reasonable that he would practice a hodgepodge of martial arts techniques. He's smart enough to adopt whatever works for him, without feeling some sort of loyalty to China.

Quite right if Stan Lee (who created the character) had known of Kung Fu it would have been. However it was 1964 and Kung Fu was not common knowledge. This was because of the racist feelings of the Chinese community. Sifus were not allow to teach "Gweilo" (white people). Kung Fu was considered to be taught only to Chinese. And even though there were some Western students who did train in Kung Fu, they were a very small number. Even when Bruce Lee introduced Kung Fu via the Green Hornet TV show (1966-1967) most people thought Kung Fu was "Chinese Karate". It wasn't until the 1970s starting with the popularity of Bruce's Kung Fu movies that Kung Fu became common knowledge.

"without feeling some sort of loyalty to China." - Mandarin doesn't feel loyality to the Chinese goverment, but he is loyal to the orthodox Chinese culture. He considers himself Chinese and he constantly exploits Chinese cultural aspects in his surroundings, manners, and fashion choices. Mandarin wears Hanfu (a traditional Chinese clothes), has long fingernails (which in ancient China was an indicator that you're part of the establishment), and he constantly exploits Chinese cultural and its aesthetic. Mandarin is Chinese, not white. Get this through your head.

and why would he only allowed to do things Chinese "typically" do?

Yes it seems like ol' Stan lee used to just make up a lot of crap which his writers had to fix later on.

Pink Mist thank you for mentioning that video, wouldn't have known about it otherwise

Zach J. I didn't even know about it either until I saw a video that mentioned it xD

+Misty Rose Damn thanks

+Misty Rose im wondering how their gonna do that, you know, mandarins nationality

exactly

no, mandarin works better as this mysthic aristocrat. he doesn´t need an armor.

kelly Whitehead Armored Adventures!Mandarin is Best Mandarin #BringBackArmoredAdventures

Then they went and immediately retconned him, maybe...check out the one shot, All Hail The King if you can find it. And watch the original iron man movie and check for what is presumably an easter egg when iron man is flying down the highway toward the camera on a billboard. pretty cool if ya ask me.....

James Mason The Mandarin that you saw in Iron Man 3 isn't the real Mandarin. He was an impostor. This was revealed in "Marvel One-Shot: All Hail the King" as the REAL Mandarin was VERY POed that this buffoon got away with impersonating him. Give it a look. It's a good watch.

What did they do?

@@amortality999 combine whitewashing + joke characteristic/ability + human torch ripoff = Both "Mandarin" of Iron Man 3

I mean they couldve avoid the stereotypical elements *just like they did with Wong*

@@cloudsopowera6248 Well the REAL Madarin is coming back into the MCU at some time

@@Whispurer he is now gonna be in shang chi

***** Hopefully they'll find a way to not make him a racist caricature.... like his classic design.

Eric Coldfire Isn't it fitting though? Tony Stark more or less looks like a classic American Douchebag billionaire playboy.

toxinqwerty Yeah but people wanted him to be for the movie.

Eric Coldfire People wanted him to be Chinese. I didn't realize all Chinese people were racist caricatures.

toxinqwerty People also expected him to be green with fangs and claws. But we'll see what his is eventually.

FrostedFunkoFlakes Indeed, Mandarin is a criminally underrated character.

Curt Clark I love your sentiments & opinion on Mandarin. #JusticeForMandarin

Curt Clark Some great sentiments here, however I’d like to point out that a lot of them are already a part of his character; Mandarin has always been written as a direct counterpart to Stark, obsessed with the old ways of China, but opposed to the entire modern world. For me, it’s one of the main reasons why his character kicks ass, and deserves the position of Iron Man’s arch-nemesis.

I'm from the future. It's like one of the writers for Shang-Chi found your comment and went "....yeah, let's do that"

:D

Because there was a severe anti-China sentiment in the U.S. back when Mandarin first showed up (thus Iron Man's arch nemesis). Thus the magic and mysticism as opposed to technology and thriftiness.

+Rashad Almomani, because he learned every existing martial art in order to turn himself into an ideal of human's perfection.

+William Linkous, your argument is pointless, because it has nothing to do with reality. Mandarin has nothing to do with magic or mysticism. His powers are based on his knowledge of science and his intelligence. He was representing apolitical and anti-corporative point of view while Iron Man was representing capitalistic point of view.

because marvel did not know about kungfu

in Japanese, the word karate, means Chinese boxing,

Don't worry it's explained in the comic "Hail The King" that Killian and Ben Kingsley (the actor who played the "Mandarin") weren't actually associated with the REAL Mandarin and were just taking his name...

I imagine that to be a cop out because they knew just how pissed fans would be if they had stuck to their original claim that he was The Mandarin and how their "clever" twist turned out to blow up in their faces. I had no problem with him being middle eastern, nor did I have problems with him being a self righteous terrorist... but when they stripped him back to be seen as nothing more than an actor and blah blah blah.... it was lame and no matter how they save face, it is still a cop out and they had to of known it would be received poorly by fans

I know in the first iron man movie they hinted at the mandarin with the group who had Tony which they called themselves the 10 rings.

But the real "Mandarin" exists in Mcu, there's a one shot film called "All hail the king" that shows what happened to the actor after the events of Iron Man 3. I've never read comics so I'm not that offended of how they handled the Mandarin in the comics but he was a pretty interesting antagonist during the first half of the film but they just pretty much wasted Ben Kingsleys acting skills on the joke that is Iron Man 3 Mandarin, so that kinda bugs me.

CreamCoffee if by chance you watch the cartoon of iron man the mandarin is in there showing him how he should be.

Nope that was a fake mandarin they stole his name and mocked him for proof watch All hail the king

The badass terminator The badass terminator true

+Xnake no

My God ! Wtf yo!! Dude seriously

Wtf u smoking ??? U got bad taste in choosing ..hire the Chinese actor in mortal Kombat who play shang shung ! Definitely play mandarin ..reeves ?.😂😂👀👀

Direct descendant*

***** Wrong.

dakota kidd He isn't wrong though.

and 20 million isn't as much as it seems either.

with the near 8 billion people on the planet even if you just factor in males that number is still small if it were 200 million that'd be a huge number

+H BI +Marshanah T. BUT THERE WAS A 10 RING AGENT IN ANTMAN..GOOGLE IT

Haha that's funny