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Supro 1605r Direct In First Impressions - Secret Weapons

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Mark Johnston

Mark Johnston

Күн бұрын

This amp can do a LOT. Way more than this video shows but I am excited about it and wanted to get something out there ASAP about it. More coming soon.

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@user-nh4pb1mh9e
@user-nh4pb1mh9e 7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your enthusiasm. Your video was really great.No one is paying me to say this!!! I appreciate the fact that you didn't go overboard. Straight to the point. Clean clean clean tone.
@borhksalduero9259
@borhksalduero9259 5 жыл бұрын
this amp is literally what I am looking for, looking forward to know something else about it dude. It sounds amazing and takes pedals as nothing I've heard before. this video its been really helpful for me to make my decision regarding my next purchase. thanks
@aleji0
@aleji0 5 жыл бұрын
I own one. It's pretty amazing.
@billharris7698
@billharris7698 4 жыл бұрын
This amp is built well and has a nice vintage tube tone. You can mic it or record it silently or both. At full volume it is not that loud and would word for home use but if used at a gig you'd need to mic it or use the line out to a mixing board. See my comments below.
@billharris7698
@billharris7698 4 жыл бұрын
I have this same amp and I use it in a similar way with the line out through my pedal board. I then output the pedalboard in stereo into my UAD Apollo computer interface. I monitor mine thru an Ocean Wave Studio app and it sounds just like you're really playing it acoustically and as mentioned, you can turn the speaker output off and do it all silently. You could also use an IR or a cab simulator and probably get a similar sound as it does sound just a bit thin with out a cab or studio emulation of some sort. I've been silently recording for many years and this is the most realistic, inspiring and satisfying way I've ever done it. The tube tone is nice.
@yourbuddykevin
@yourbuddykevin 4 жыл бұрын
what do you mean line out through pedal board?
@yourbuddykevin
@yourbuddykevin 4 жыл бұрын
so you have poweramp before pedals going through interface?
@billharris7698
@billharris7698 4 жыл бұрын
@@yourbuddykevin The amp has a mono line output from the preamp (with a level control) BEFORE the power tube. You can run that line output into effects pedals or a DAW. You can also turn up the master volume and hear the amp acoustically at the same time if you wanted. This gives you the option of using the amp silently through effects for recording, recording with effects in a DAW or both if you also miked the amp. The direct line output does sound better (more like an amp through a speaker) when output through a speaker sim or IR, but as it is it does have a nice tube feel and tone.
@yourbuddykevin
@yourbuddykevin 4 жыл бұрын
Bill Harris sounds interesting. I have the amp on order so I’ll try something similar out. So because you’re not getting any of the power tube through interface, hows the dirty tones?
@billharris7698
@billharris7698 4 жыл бұрын
@@yourbuddykevin I've used the 1605R with a Rivera Mini Rockrec which takes the whole amp output from the speaker out jack and provides multiple emulated cab options that are line level allowing you to go into effects pedal and or into a DAW. That sound, which is post preamp and post power amp tube, did sound slightly better than just the preamp out. For me the difference wasn't enough to justify the hassle of hooking it up that way, the line out sounds very nice with a cab sim. I use mostly clean to slightly edge of grit type tones so I'm not the one to ask about serious dirt.There are a few KZfaq demos of guys getting good dirty tones out of it, so listen to them and see what you think. It's solidly made and I've taken it apart several times to change both the preamp and power amp tubes. It comes with JJs and I couldn't really beat their sound. My Blackstar Studio 10 6L6 has a post power tube line out which sounds great too, but both amps need a cab sim or IR to sound ultimate. Both amps can sound great with the Supro being a little bit grittier and the Blackstar definitely being a clean machine.I would place drive pedals into the front end of the amp and other effects after the emulated line out. I run both of my amps through a Strymon Iridium and it works well in beefing up the line out tone and there are many other options. Hope it helps.
@jonnylikertrommer
@jonnylikertrommer 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds great, like heaven!
@billharris7698
@billharris7698 4 жыл бұрын
I have a Backstair Studio 10 6L6 and the Supro 1605R and I like them both. They both do the emulated out direct recording thing very well and that line output sounds great thru a pedalboard. The Supro has a tiny bit more grit but sounds very nice with the fat tube tone that digital still lacks. The Blackstar Studio 10 is great too, but a little cleaner and sparkly. In stereo together they are beautiful. I've opened the Supro up and changed tubes on it several times and it's seems nicely made. It is not hardwired but the construction is nice and solid. It came with JJ's and after a few preamp tube change I think the JJ's sounded best so I put them back in. I tried a Tung Sol 6V6 power tube and it sounded good so I left that. Supro tech's told me that 6V6 or 6L6 power tubes will work just fine in the circuit. Both these amps give a classic sound. For reference, my era is the 60's and 70's and I record nearly exclusively direct which is an art unto itself. Great with spring reverb, tremolo and I added the wonderful Strymon Volante delay.
@jonathancarlisle7898
@jonathancarlisle7898 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'd love to see you compare this and the Benson Vinny - strengths/weaknesses, etc.
@jonaskrook8807
@jonaskrook8807 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Mark! Very interesting amp the 1605R. I’ve been searching for more demos about the line out jacks and the possibilities with extension cab etc etc. I’m leaning towards a wet/dry setup and I would really appreciate if you could demo some examples! I got the feeling we might like the same guitar sound! // Jonas
@jensk4140
@jensk4140 2 жыл бұрын
Great man, thanks!
@lucaswildman2821
@lucaswildman2821 5 жыл бұрын
I'm excited to see the next video! Love the idea of a small tube amp geared towards small/home studio setups.
@markjohnstonofficial
@markjohnstonofficial 5 жыл бұрын
In my opinion I think that Supro is the front runner in that category. So good
@bilnabiln
@bilnabiln 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. Are you using the mono cabzeus or the stereo version?
@FrancescoFp
@FrancescoFp 2 жыл бұрын
Are you still using this amp? What is your opinion of it after using it for some time?
@markjohnstonofficial
@markjohnstonofficial 2 жыл бұрын
I am. There’s still a lot I like about it, but in retrospect I would go with the head. I’m not a huge fan of the 8” speaker in it but the preamp / power amp is pretty great.
@FrancescoFp
@FrancescoFp 2 жыл бұрын
@@markjohnstonofficial Thanks for the reply! I'm a big fan. :)
@WilliamsHuw
@WilliamsHuw 2 жыл бұрын
@@markjohnstonofficial Hey Mark, does ur supro have a ss8 or a jensen please?.....love ur demo...but just ordered the Jensen (later mode)l by accident!......and the pre 2020 are 'assembled in NYC'. Killer demo!
@MrWishihadagibson
@MrWishihadagibson 5 жыл бұрын
Cool setup!
@markjohnstonofficial
@markjohnstonofficial 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@bmitchellmusic
@bmitchellmusic 5 жыл бұрын
Siiiiick!!
@markjohnstonofficial
@markjohnstonofficial 5 жыл бұрын
I LOVE this amp. It might be the most versatile amp on the market.
@katoyelovni
@katoyelovni 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. After a few weeks with it, would you recommend it as a bedroom amp? Thanks
@markjohnstonofficial
@markjohnstonofficial 4 жыл бұрын
Highly. The speaker size and wattage makes it a perfect candidate for home use.
@katoyelovni
@katoyelovni 4 жыл бұрын
@@markjohnstonofficial Thanks, Mark! Great sound
@dxfordummies
@dxfordummies 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone plays different. I just crank it to 10. Reverb to 4. I bought this amp to jam with the boys without a pedalboard
@DeGroove
@DeGroove 2 жыл бұрын
Did you ever try and feed one of the pedal outputs back in the power-amp input? Hence using it as an Fx-loop. Hoping to use this in a 4 cable method setup with a modeller so I can switch between the supro’s preamp and the modellers preamps. Any insight is much appreciated.
@eliaslauber6549
@eliaslauber6549 2 жыл бұрын
I use the Line Out/ Power Amp in as an Effectsloop and it works great. Only issues i thought i had happened when i didn‘ t let the amp warm up long enough, so i thought using the effectsloop allows only half the max volume. But these issues vanished once it was fully at operating temperature. I haven‘t figured out the right EQ settings for very low volume playing. Almost impossivle to dial in a decent tone at very low volume because the knobs have such a range
@MrIantodd
@MrIantodd 2 жыл бұрын
Do you need a power amp or cab sim when using the mix out?
@fretted
@fretted 2 жыл бұрын
I'd really like to know all your settings for that tone at 2:35 ?
@nathanricker1
@nathanricker1 5 жыл бұрын
So, wait, you drive the front of the amp with dirt pedals. I get that. Then take the line out and run it through your modulation/stereo pedals. So you record by miking the amp for the dry signal and a stereo in from the pedalboard for your modulation effects then mix the two? Anyway, it sounds great
@markjohnstonofficial
@markjohnstonofficial 5 жыл бұрын
For the purposes of this video; i am only recording the stereo input from the cab sim at the end of the stereo board, BUT a huge thing about this amp is that I could easily mic the cabinet for my dry tone and then also take the stereo outs at the end for a wet/dry/wet rig. The only reason that isn’t the case here is because my Apollo twin is only 2 inputs.
@nathanricker1
@nathanricker1 5 жыл бұрын
@@markjohnstonofficial so your using the supro, in this context, as a tube preamp. Nice! It sounds great. Coincidentally, i run nearly the exact same board as you right down to the cabzeus (which i LOVE) and starting with the benson and condor. Its eerily similar. I even switch out for the same pedals haha. Its creepy. Anyway. You just solved a big live sound problem for me, so thanks. Hows the reverb on the supro?
@nathanricker1
@nathanricker1 5 жыл бұрын
You should probably have more subs by the way. The content is really superb. You helped me decide on the meris mercury 7 and i couldnt be happier. You were right. It stacks so well with the echosystem and dark world verbs. It really spreads out the dark world.
@markjohnstonofficial
@markjohnstonofficial 5 жыл бұрын
The reverb on the Supro sounds great. It’s responsive and clean and deep. This amp has line level wet and dry outs too which is awesome. Sometime in the near future I’m gonna showcase some of those features. The wet out on it allows for stuff like using the tube driven reverb in this amp as a studio reverb tool on drums and vocals.
@nathanricker1
@nathanricker1 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, ive been checking it out. It looks like an amazing studio tool. Ive been looking for a good 5 watt. They tend to either be crap or 2500 bucks. This guy seems like the business though, at 700 used. Sold. Thanks for the responses! Super helpful!
@tnickel2
@tnickel2 Жыл бұрын
Sounds bassy.
@suqies
@suqies Жыл бұрын
what are the pedals for the tone at 2:50 some reverb and delay?
@markjohnstonofficial
@markjohnstonofficial Жыл бұрын
Almost certain it’s the Specular Tempus and Mercury 7
@yourbuddykevin
@yourbuddykevin 3 жыл бұрын
I really wanted to love this amp, but it sounds too boxy. I’ve had it for a year now, thinking about putting it on Reverb.
@markjohnstonofficial
@markjohnstonofficial 3 жыл бұрын
The speaker in this thing can be. I felt like a good preamp and some midrange tweaked solved for *some* of that. If I needed to exclusively use the speaker I would swap it out because I really love everything else about it.
@yourbuddykevin
@yourbuddykevin 3 жыл бұрын
@@markjohnstonofficial have you tried using an extension cab? Giving the amp another try...
@dxfordummies
@dxfordummies 2 жыл бұрын
Boxy?
@topopops
@topopops 4 жыл бұрын
My 1605R completely failed and shorted the whole board and nearly set on fire. Had it less than a year. my tech said they are really really had to work on and didn’t want to fix it..
@HenriNaila
@HenriNaila 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t even hear the amp through all that processing😞
@markjohnstonofficial
@markjohnstonofficial 3 жыл бұрын
This channel doesn't exist for dry amps
@theflamerising1767
@theflamerising1767 Жыл бұрын
😅😂😂😂
@wheresallthezombies
@wheresallthezombies 3 жыл бұрын
what guitar is that?
@sincityhvacr
@sincityhvacr 5 жыл бұрын
beautiful sir where can i get a cd or download aanything this music is beautiful
@philippevleminckx2607
@philippevleminckx2607 5 жыл бұрын
"Totally clean" ??
@markjohnstonofficial
@markjohnstonofficial 5 жыл бұрын
It’s SO clean. I basically need to keep a drive on in front of it because it sounds so pristine
@theflamerising1767
@theflamerising1767 Жыл бұрын
You kinda look like JC
@markjohnstonofficial
@markjohnstonofficial Жыл бұрын
I dunno. Even when he was young John carpenter always was more of a mustache guy.
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