Stock 52v BBSHD Races: 3:25 - First "race" 4:07 - Second race 4:24 - Third race 4:38 - Fourth race (rolling start) 4:50 - Fifth race (top-end) Modified 72v BBSHD Races: 5:30 - First race 6:04 - Second race 6:19 - Third race (rolling start) 6:46 - Fourth race (top end)

The bait and switching is really annoying.

I've just ordered a Mario 1000w BBSHD 52v and I cant wait to try it out so thanks guys for your videos my friend

great test.. is the phaserunner smoother?

So what was the top speed?

Question, on the same ebike 26 x4 fat tire rear hub. Which one would be faster, 750 watt motor with 60 volt battery or 1000 watt motor with 48 volt battery. Thanks in advance for responding.

Weights (rider+bike) about equal? Tire pressure comparable?

Are the ratios the same? There needs to be same frame/cassette/rider ghost laps.

This is so awesome! I have the V2 Luna controller on my BBSHD fat bike and just sold my ASI BAC 4000 Sur Ron with bms bypassed stock battery. The reason being, is because I have a lot more fun on my 52v 27ah Sony VTC6 cell 60 amps continuous electric fat bike with the pedal assist dialed in to act almost like torque sensing pedal assist. I can not wait until my 72v 16ah Molicel cell triangle arrives that can put out 180 amps continuous. Thank you for doing this video. Cheers.

Are you guys able to fabricate a hybrid seat/back mud guard/2nd battery holder. Was going to see if you guys would be able to make a seat hybrid for my bike with the suron seat cushion but see if you could add a battery into it where the back fender would be. If so could you add break lights and turn signals to it? Could turn the battery pack into the back mud guard/seat. Would be pretty bad ass if you could do it all in one piece. If the battery is too heavy you could add a suspension spring on both sides of the wheel. If you cant do it with the seat than how about just the fender with the break lights and turn signals with the extra battery? Cheers.

red bike is interesting because it managed to combine full suspension and also having a triangle battery which is the ideal setup.

Hello, can you help me? What does this difference in speed depend on the voltage of the battery 48 52, can you explain? I have the 1000 Bafang is mine, it goes very slowly, why?

Is your website down right now? I'm trying to check my order status and I can't load the page! I want my bbshd so bad lol

This is cool. DIY kits vs pre made bikes!

I think I would have preferred to see a stock BBSHD vs Phaserunner BBSHD race and then bring in the SurRon for the final race. I have a 21s (76V) BBSHD and Phaserunner setup which is pretty damn quick for a bicycle. I would love to see how it can do versus a SurRon :)

can you guys make me the same setup as the red bike has but on a montague pro?

What kind of bike is the bbshd on?

I still watch this video and thats why I bought the 1000w mid-drive 52v 21ah ebike 👍🏾🙏

Hey what happened to Dan's email you said you were going to provide in the link? Loved your comparison video . Thanks.

Does anyone know why they stopped selling the 72v?

Ok pretty cool Golden Motor. How about a race with the dual wheel drive ride in your other videos

No one able to solve my problem. Brother I have an e bike named as Raymon hardray 4.0. It has a yamaha mid drive motor and a yamaha display. I tried to increase the speed of the bike by putting magnet to pedals and removing sensor from its original place.. it worked perfectly but suddenly it stopped working completely. It gives very little peddle assist. Before I could go max 16miles but now the motor doesn’t support 5 miles. The change in the display that appears after this problem is that the range shown on the display is blinking. It never blinked before. Please help me. I haven’t found any video to solve this problem. No one in my area is able to identify the problem

Do you think that a multi-speed drivetrain can last at short periods of 5000w full blast without major consequences and hurting the drivetrain's lifespan?

You guys are close to Dixie & Derry?

Honestly I can’t say this race is a good example. I have a BBSHD and phaserunner running on 21s LiPo and it will pull the front tire clear off the ground from a 15 mph roll and would put both those bikes to shame. You don’t have that phaserunner tuned at all.

I wanna change my motor on my scooter big motor were will I get faster one

Great vid! Why buy a sur Ron for a lot more money when you can get that bbshd setup much cheaper and go under the rador. Cyclone mid drive would be good vid to do next. Just a thought 😉😁

i have the BBSHD with 52V battery (all stock no mods) - can you recommend someting to increase the power / performance ? (without replacing the battery - maybe ill do that much later) cheers

Did the Sur Ron have the sine wave x controller?

My 72v bbshd outruns a surron easier so wonder what controller this uses

Could you get the BBSHD with a 72v Phaserunner up to 50-55mph? (With like 50-60A)

Where is the best place to purchase a basic BBSHD kit?

I like this. You definitely could away with riding the 72 volt bbshd on the street without being pulled over. Look like a normal bike.

Pretty nice I just finished my 48v lifepo4 25ah.. bbshd.. full suspension mt bike.. total weight 65 pounds.. (my weight 190) today.. gonna get that 4000watt upgrade that came out.. soon for 600.. seemed more of the acceleration I want

Can you dial up the Phaserunner to pump like 3 or 4K into the Bafang ?

Was the sur ron even in sport mode ? Was the wire cut too ? Could’ve been way more informative in the video

I'm a bit lost where I can buy a controller - Phase runner, ASI BAC 800, or Ludicrous. I've ruled out the Ludicrous as it seems Luna only sells to selected customers. ASIC BAC seems unavailable. Any tips would sure be appreciated. Thanks for sharing the great vid!

Should have done a top speed run on both bikes. Also you should have picked a warmer day.

Are you using field weakening? I got same 72v + phaserunner. Tried field weakening but motor was getting warm.

use the right gears for the bbshd

My next set up on my kona stinky 👌

how much would that red bike cost?

Top speed info would have been nice...

We need range test

I think my Ecotric Rocket mod with a 1200W rear hub direct drive with 52V battery and Phaserunner controller would whip them both.

That means nothing until you approach a hill that's where the BBSHD SHINES AND BLOWS AWAY ANY HUB DRIVE!

Nice! Yeah I roll 72v

Fairly comparable.

I don’t get why he didn’t pedal tho it’s apart of the bbshd lol

Now put a 96 Volt 5KW BLDC Motor Air Cooled in a Sur-Ron!

Just get to it

i have a bbshd with 52v and 3,200w controller and a 60v 1500w hub with a 2000w controller . i like the hub better because the bbshd chews up chains and sprokets .

That Surron has a limiter on it can go faster

Don't seam to have very good acceleration. Maybe its the cold

music is too loud i cant hear them

Yeah but the BBSHD is designed as a Pedalic. I could give the Suron a run for it's money a non motored rider. But wih a BBSHD and gears I could make that thing fly. Though I admit changing underload with a BBSHD is risky for your gearing.

TESLA amps omg i neeed those now haha

am I the only one who has yoch 1500 MD?

Set's off in 1 😅

Just to clarify, a 48 volt BBSHD can run at 72 volts with no problems?

60 amps!!

Switched off when you did the fake start

BBSHD is the junkyard bike, or post war apolocaptic Mad Max type of bike.

We only tuned in with no volume to see the race. I can't make it to it. Bye

No hub motor

looks like michigan

20 sec of content, 7 minutes of video. You are juicing.

You compare its wrong ... Big wheel vs Small whell .. you know ///

the 72v is a winner in my eyes lets face it the SurRon is a motorbike getting away by being called an e-bike

Out of stock.

Guy on the BBSHD cannot start. Why is he doing a pedal stroke? If he is on a smaller cog on the rear, then this is not an accurate race. On a big cog, the Bafang will start faster but not reach top speed of the surron. Ideally the Bafang should race on a 1:1 gear ratio, so lets say 44 tooth in the front 42 rear, which will just destroy the surron from a dead stop.

that's a Chinese surron

if you have an ebike you should pedal, it's lame when you see someone with an ebike and only uses the throttle, lazy bastards in London working an office job and still too lazy to pedal, the weaker 500 -750 watt motors with pedal assist can get up to speed from 0 to 25 mph quickly, much faster than bikes without electric motors, so it's ideal for urban environment where you constantly speed up and slow down, makes ebikes superior to normal non electric sports bikes, dont buy anything below 500 watts because then it's just going to be too slow and pointless for road use but also don't buy anything too powerful because it's going to be inefficient if you need travel somewhere further.

When doing introductions please take your helmets off!

This is going to be a close one, yawn...

Your sound wind noise sucks

Very bad driver.... The rider on the bafang should change gears to maximize the power and speed. I can do it better on my stock bbs02 750w e.e