Oleksandr Manyukov thank you bro

Thankyou

Immersion = eat , sleep , drink and shit in the new language.

@@bluegtturbo They're not actually asking what immersion is, they're writing the title of each section from the slides.

Thx.😎

In reality, if you have that attitude,, you are putting illusory obsticles in your path as a teacher. There is almost always no such thing as a perfect class, where everyone is highly motivated.

​@@evenjohannesen2567 of course. But still his point is right, absence of motivation results in a lot less effectivity of learning process. And at some point it is not reasonable (it's just loss of time) to continue that process without serious work on motivation aspect.

You can't motivate people. You can only provide the environment within which they can motivate themselves.

@mymaster You are very right: A language cannot be "taught" it has to be LEARNED.

@@60-second-HACKS Sure. So it's important to work on this environment, make it the most suitable possible. As a techer you need to give the best opportunities to your students, then it's up to them to take it or not.

Klaus Klaus that’s not true. Because natives have been to the through the process of learning a se one language too. Knowledge is important. You can’t teach what you don’t know. To teach a language you have to be educated in the language. Native or close to it.

It’s also very common for British children to adopt American accents when playing with figures and dolls.

Yes, some folks just seem to have this natural ability to soak up languages. Other seem to just have to struggle with each step. Eventhen, simply speaking, or writing vs. understanding it can be quite different things.

It has been scientifically proven that people lose the ability to hear certain sounds not present in their native language after a certain age. For example, if I say the words 'raw, law' or 'road, load' back to back repeatedly to a Japanese adult, most of them will tell me they can hear no difference between the two words, where as a native English speaker can clearly hear the difference with no effort. They are essentially deaf to certain sounds. What you are talking about with accents changing is a completely different thing so maybe you misunderstood the point. An Australian picking up an American accent doesn't require learning new sounds.

@@moyga I deal with this with my ESl learners, and thus the reason why they choose a Native teacher versus a Spanish one.

​@@moyga So far the research I'm doing focuses on Thai, Hebrew and Chinese - so I can't generalize much at this stage. I've read some studies about the "crystallization" of sounds that can be heard; but in my research I've discovered a somewhat different underlying mechanism. It seems to come from how we speak, which is essentially a *muscular* skill. Certain muscles used for speaking develop strength & dexterity (along with the parallel development of fine motor-control for these muscles somewhere in the brain I guess). Other muscles will not develop because they're not being used. It's a bit like becoming skilled at playing tennis and not being able to transfer these (same) skills to squash or ping pong. Some of the muscles and motor control are the same, but many are completely different. What seems to happen with language is that we only seem to be able to hear those sounds that we can physically produce ourselves. It's as though we have a kind of analog-to-digital converter in our heads that convert a sound signal in our ears to a *re-constructed* digital signal based on the sounds we are aware of and can anticipate. In fact, I've discovered that we barely listen to what another person says: we usually *fill in* as much as we can ourselves to minimize the amount of "signal processing" we are required to do. That means we don't hear new sounds at all at all. (At least we "hear" them physically as a vibration in our ears, but our "inner" or "third" ear plays back only the sounds that we are already familiar with.) This theory seems to hold true because when I train people how to physically produce the sounds that are otherwise alien to them, they are subsequently more able to hear these sounds when native speakers produce them. And, again, it's not that they actually "hear" these sounds. I think it's simply that they compose or construct the new sounds as they've learnt them. And in fact I've accidentally been able to prove this because I've inadvertently been training people to produce one particular sound incorrectly. Yet that - incorrect - sound is what is heard even though native people say something slightly different. I now have to go back to all the people I've trained and tell them to correct how they produce the sound in question - and no doubt they will then subsequently "hear" it correctly when spoken... :) (PS Could you provide a link to the study/studies that show that people their ability to hear non-native sounds after a while? Thanks.)

Fazio, L. K., Brashier, N. M., Payne, B. K., & Marsh, E. J. (2015). Knowledge does not protect against illusory truth. Journal of Experimental Psychology: General, 144(5), 993-1002.

@@anetepaulaperova3755 and Faez, F., Karas, M., & Uchihara, T. (2019). Connecting language proficiency to teaching ability: A meta-analysis. Language Teaching Research, (24)5, DOI: 10.1177/1362168819868667

@@anetepaulaperova3755 Thank you very much Anete!!

@@attilaszabo8605 Thank you so much Attila!!

@@attilaszabo8605 Thank you so much:)

Yes, it does. I heard many times on TV or "experts" on the different youtube channels that US ruined USSR and I thought that is true. and now many news channels tell about how Putin made illigal ellection in US, and people figure that is truth, although he made only facke ellection in Russia.

@mincermind you didn't get him. He meant the last election in the USA and troll factory (KremlinBots). Nevermind. If you really think that Putin has nothing to do with his unconstitutional seizure of power, I have bad news for you. Don't be myopic. Russia has a clear hierarchy where there's no person that controls everything but Putin. Putin has done everything to stay in power. Oh, yeah, Central Election Commission is not subject to Putin's control. What a joke.

There are very many commonly accepted beliefs, which are in reality myths; some of the ones that annoy me surround World War One. "Led by donkeys" for example, British Generals on the Somme, were being killed at such a high rate, that they had to be specifically ordered NOT to go forward as they were being lost at an unsustainable rate. Everyone through post-war literature knows that the generals were living it up in chateaus, totally detached from the men they led; it takes studying hundreds of pages of fact based historical events to see things in a deeper light. The thing is, we economise by not critically evaluating everything, when I noticed one funny error, Christian's fact list collapsed as I actually examined the statements.

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a lie often enough repeated becomes the truth

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Wow! I thought in Spain you have high level in most.

@@legkodymov7027 a high level is expected, but the truth is the ones that achieve it is only because they invest extra time and money, as far as I can tell, the school system makes it harder to learn the language properly.

Same in Pashto

Oh that's really not true! I was totally immersed speaking German and it changed my native English speech considerably, of course practice speaking with family and friends soon reverted things. Even more than 20 years later, with some practice German speakers are not sure where I come from and when I was practicing a lot, an Austrian German teacher told a Spaniard I was Swiss, thinking I was joking telling the Spaniard my true nationality. I've also met people who's English accents are very impressive, but it's very definitely not a desirable goal for everyone. The key to reducing accent is listening very carefully and practicing it regularly with help of native speakers. You cannot succeed in it, if you're speaking mainly with compatriots prone to the same intonation and errors as yourself.

Thanks for your reply. I have some indonesian friend in australia, usa or uk. Of course they speak english fluenty coz they live there for 10 to 20 years. But their english accent is belong to their javanese natives or chinese etc. There are many indonesianist from australia. They speak bahasa indonesia more fluently and fantastic than many indonesian... but we their aussie accent still remain though they speak bahasa indonesia every day. Orang Indonesia or indonesian speak in 718 local language. So we have hundreds of bahasa indonesia or national language accents depend on our natives' accent. So it's very easy to guess anyone hometown based on their native accent. I think most of lingua franca like english or indonesian language have the same problems.

@@mitreka88 I don't follow your point, whilst I hear different accents and can place people, I can communicate and understand people from all round the world. That said, some non-native speakers learn to speak without an original accent through immersion and work. They are talented listeners and flexible speakers!

m.kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mqphpNl5nNPen6s.html This is a real example. My friend soe tjen lived many years in london as a lecture. She speaked in germany about indonesian old problem. She speaked in good english but.. her accent was the same as her speaked surabaya language or bahasa indonesia.