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Yes it does say that but the stock motor says it’s limited to the same thing and we’ve pulled 20kW+ with no issues. It’s a matter of getting the tune sorted but we are not sure yet if the controller has the advanced functionality needed to straighten things out and pull more power. Thanks for the support!

Thinking of upgrading to a 24”x24”. We’ll see if it’s in the budget 😅

Glad you liked it! I don't have any readings for you specifically but I'll give you a solid method for reading things that are on a higher technical level than what you could typically find. During our years in college we were on an electric formula team, where we had to design formula style EVs from the ground up. Although these were student led projects that cars were no joke. I believe some even hold 0-60 world records and are faster to 60mph than an F1 Car. This general organization is reffered to as FSAE - Formula Society of Automotive Engineers. Luckily, many of the students publish their findings for the sections of the car they worked on. You can google something to the effect of "FSAE High Voltage Battery" and find countless thesis papers and capstone projects with some highly technical information. You can also search using key words like motor, suspension, etc.

We have the QS and the stock motor so we actually have both :) the meaning was to help inform people about general motor info and upgraded motors available for the SurRon. Testing will follow as mentioned.

Definitely seems that way, it’s just odd that the QS spins as fast if not faster at the same voltage and power.

Yeah I have hope that they’ll get it sorted but the constant back and fourth with customers on Facebook and what not could be skipped. I understand the feeling of wanting to defend things people say about your company but gotta draw the line somewhere.

Yeah I don't like how they gave us an incomplete product. Forced the consumer to do the RnD and are making us pay for it

@@mre741 thoguht they were replacing the MX orders with RS for free? or did I hear that wrong?

Pretty upset with this, as someone who purchased the controller. The tunes are sorted now, but it was not as fun on rides with the on/off throttle behavior, lack of regeneration, and the LAG...

@@jayjay6782 The issues with the tunes were all with the stock motor, because they did testing with their motor only. I still have issues with my throttle hanging, but it is nothing compared to what it used to be.

The QS is similar to the SurRon but is SPM rather than the bolted/glued style that the SurRon is. Also different than the IPM of the KO as you mentioned.

Me aswell. Coming on Monday 😀

@@Ah85661 nice man I've got a hub drive bike hut I still can't wait mine won't be delivered up till the after the 30th but it should fly by

What ibx?

@@slaughteroce3355 surron L B X

Can't say that I've ever used a Nuc24f. What issues are you running into?

Yeah not a whole lot of thought on this one, had a lot on my mind and we hadn’t posted in over a month - apologies. The model is the 165 but I didn’t mention it because they don’t post it on their site for some reason. As mentioned, we will do a whole video on it!

Electro and Co has the motor

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If you’re asking what the max phase amperage rating of the motor is I believe that is 600. Had no issues maxing out a 4000 testing it.

@@emotobros Hmm strange ... over 280A it overshoots . So 431A you are the frst on QS 165 if it is true. Post a Logging . Would be interresting for many nerds here

You’re saying no one has gone over 280 phase amps? That’s pretty low…just shoot me an email and I’ll send the logs of the QS vs the Stock motor. I think technically it hit 428 or something, close enough :)

@@emotobros ok do it tomorrow 👍 ... on paper he can 500a in real not really 🤣 but till now i only spend 5h on the setup

Yep! That’s a huge problem along with the wiring that go from the battery to the controller and then to the motor. It’s barely rated for stock power. Throw 6x stock power at it and you start to see a lot of heat related failures even if your battery can handle it. As you mention, the range detriment is significant as well.

To liquid cool a motor, the motor itself needs cooling passages in the metal housing. Improved airflow is the easiest solution for sure. It has been done before by one of our sponsored riders and works well, but it's quite the undertaking!

depends on length gauge and material but if it was 2 of same motors the resistance is constant among all maybe you mean field weakening?

@@kevinalmeida7159 lay off the drugs bro

@@jimlahey5354 oh you want to go there! well ok i still do engineering and a day job of rocket propulsion research and development and like to tinker with my tesla im only a hobbyist in motors but i had to take several courses in motors and electronics. suggesting im on drugs why? because you dont like my avatar? why are you being a triggered snowflake?

We are most definitely on the same page 🤝🏽

That was the goal! Not meant to be super guided or anything. Sometimes we like to just sit down and talk without much planned. Appreciate the support 🤘🏽

@@emotobros I thought it was easy to hear you guys and was a good just chat about motor options etc. Would be cool to see a more detailed video later on once more usable data is collected etc but great to see you guys talk about the options

I have ebmx bac 4000 w 60v ebmx battery - tops out at 12kw tune. Any more power u need bac8000

The BAC4000 has a peak current output of 28.8kW but there is far more too the equation than just what the controller is capable of. I haven’t even seen anyone with any controller getting the KO to pull more than 20kW or so.

@@KMKZ-oq6tb easy there bud. I only go by what I was told when i installed my upgraded battery on the 4000 by ebmx. I obviously wanted to max it out and they told me above. I obviously don’t build flux capacitors like you - I just ride them.