rly looking forward to the pot nerfs. what a dumb char for dumb people. that's why they gave a grappler garuda in the first place. Because they know the people that play those chars are morons irl. And if sol wasn't broken, pot wouldn't be slipping under the radar as much as he is. enjoy your nerfs you carried low skill scrub.

The fact you know you play a one knockdown into gamewin char and make stupid jokes about it or pretend karas are challenging in any way, shows everyone what a brokenass simpleton carry char you play and truly reflects your mental capacity.

@@TheBoyNinja Wow, the salt is strong with this one xD

​@@TheBoyNinja "A one knockdown into gamewin char..." Bruh, that's literally the entire philosophy behind the grappler archetype in EVERY fighting game, and has been Potemkin's gameplan in EVERY Guilty Gear he's been in. The only scrub I see here is the kid whining about it to someone who's giving you free advice on how to deal with him.

@@CulturedDegenerate you're confusing a vortex game for a real knockdown into death. All Garuda needs is much more pushback on block. But that won't fix the people that play grapplers at all. Well they don't deserve a broken carry char like Pot convincing themselves they are good. He'll be nerfd sooner or later and magically no one will play his ugly ass anymore.

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@@samshow8462 LET’S ROCK

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You were able to wakeup from it? I thought you had to take the mix...

@@binofbread6975 He woke up...into another Garuda

A lot of my videos wind up doing that I think. My anti-may guide at launch taught a bunch of may players options they didn't even know they had lol

As a pot main, same XDXD

@@rooflemonger Realistically, the only people watching a video about a specific character are going to be people who play that character, or people who really have a hard time against that character. Nobody has the time to lab every matchup, so this makes a lot of sense.

I appreciate all the hard work, friend. One of my very favorite fgc channels right here

But you have an Axl profile pic. Thats very sus.

@@RelatosDeUnReploid It's stockholm syndrome from all the beatings we get from Axl players. Source: Am also a big Pot boi.

I YELLED at my discord thet roof is giving away my secrets!

I’ve actually gotten jabbed out of it before so no jokes aside it needs to be or the invincibility needs to be adjusted or something.

agreed

@@ThePlasticBowl He needs it ;)

Take the throw Take the low Or take the blow

@@jiefcomissioner8100 Giggity

@Maaz Iqbal I'm fairly certain that line of text was a joke.

despite the loss of frames, it DOES push you back farther, which can potentially provide you the breathing room you need.

yep! Although potemkin can cancel into kara grab and beat it as well if they know thats on the rock/paper/scissors stack

Where I grew up in quebec there was only 2 english channels on tv and they showed a lot of stuff from the 50's-70s. So I talk like a person twice my age sometimes

well its negative on block so its not really a big deal. The big use for it is combos

Hammerfall mixup and learn how to flick rensen.

That is an option presented later on in the video :)

Potemkin players can bluff the buffer and commit to c.S, it really is just a RPS situation and mind games

@@davidslg9986 Yes, but you will be playing 5d chess at that moment. From my experience, only some high level Pot players fake the buffering

@@PomboKad I mean we are assuming high level are, otherwise sure jump away if you see the input buffer lol, just dont complain when you blow up in celestial :/

@@davidslg9986 Not that it matters much since it is not elo based, just amount of win, so there is a shit ton of Pot mains better than me, but right now I am on the top 10 Pot on PSN. When I say the majority of Pot there don’t fake the input buffer is because they don’t and I assume is because the majority of players don’t wait to jump, they either hold jump or hold block. In Celestial you can bully a bunch of Pot if you do a delay jump. But yes, if we are talking about high level and frame perfect players. It is a true 50/50 so you gotta guess.

@@PomboKad Yeah we can agree on that

Goodlewis players in shambles, Sajam picks up Zato as a secondary to cope.

It's a very slow move(29f startup), so try to challenge it. As Pot try to not get stuck blocking when leo gets into stance. BMegafist is a great option to avoid his pressure if he tries to cross up into stance. The 214H is the move he will use to punish you for turtling up, so try to look for it and hit him back if he tries to throw it out. If you are caught blocking brynhilder pressure then 214H a good moment to look for to take the turn back. Dont feel too bad about getting mixed by Leo's brynhilder stance though, it's pretty much a blender with every option he needs to open you up, we all get mixed by Leos. Really try to challenge his attempts to stance up early in a round to avoid the situation entirely

@@Wendigo4231 for sure, I know he's plus like 21 when it's blocked so when they do it again I'm not sure what button to throw out to reach fast enough, and now that I'm seeing high level matches i can kinda catch the start of his stance more with simple buttons.

@@asterhogan1 2p is a good poke to interrupt after you block one of them, should be fast enough to catch him, you wont get good reward but it will knock out of stance. 5 p will work close up, and even b megafist can help as it tend to trade which is acceptable for getting out of the shmix. Fd-ing sounds good to avoid the chip, but it makes you 2 frames more negative so try not to with this move. I'm rank 10 with potemkin and havent managed to get celestial yet so hopefully better pots will have more advice. Hope this is atleast somewhat helpful!

@@Wendigo4231 I've hit celestial it's just I don't see many Leo's or most other characters so learning stuff on the fly is kinda what I have to do, like most of the answers I've come across are "ok, this one is a little longer in startup" or "this isn't as plus as it seems" but since that's kinda the only character that guard breaks me consistently I didn't know what to do, but thanks dawg, it really helps

Go and lab out options with BRC LK made a video on uses of brc recently and hd talks about using brc for making a guard crush situation less in your opponents favour

If you don't have a reversal super, you just have to play his game at that point. That's just kinda how this whole thing works. If you get put into Leo's backturn blender, Millia's hair disc, Zato's sandwich or Potemkin's Garuda oki, there are answers to lessen the chance of them getting their reward, but the odds are always in their favor. And it makes sense to be fair. They achieved their win condition, and thus are getting rewarded. You - being the one who let the situation happen - are being punished by having the shorter end of the stick when it comes to dealing with the situation, and so the odds are stacked against you. But, it's still worth knowing what few tools you have, even if they don't always work out. In the corner against meaty Garuda, your only real option besides reversal super is to guess between strike or throw. So you either jump after wake-up anticipating a grab, or stay grounded anticipating a strike. But atleast by knowing that those are your only options, you're not trying something stupid like mashing jabs on wakeup. Which would lose to both Pot's strike and throw and have you lose HP for no reason. It's always best to lose life attempting what could be a possible escape option, than to waste life getting hit because you did something that had no chance for you to escape

Triburos gave an excellent breakdown. The only things to add would be to consider the spacing (if he's really far the odds of a PB are slim) and the reward for certain hits. Some Potemkins may go for a combo for the strike portion, for example, but many (I presume) will basically choose either 2D _or_ PB. So you got knocked down, you wake up into the Garuda, and you didn't have a better response (like a goddamned Mortobato)-- now you're in guard crush, and you have two options, basically. Jump if he's gonna PB you (gets huge damage and can loop into another Garuda Oki 50/50 situation in the corner) or crouch block if you think he's gonna 2D you to loop into another Kara Garuda Oki setup. If you're mid-screen, this is probably where you should have backdashed and just accepted the hit to get back to neutral. In the corner, Potemkin can just loop this until he thinks you're finally gonna block low-- and then throw a PB instead. He COULD go for other stuff like a surprise 5D/etc, but for the most part those other options will all be inferior to simply getting the PB off and looping into more 50/50s, so unless you're fighting a really weird Potemkin you don't really need to worry about it. The final piece, of course, is the call-out HPB. If Potemkin has meter, he can potemktually skip the 2D and call it out with an HPB instead. One way or another, like Triburos said, at some point you messed up, and Potemkin got you into his gameplan-- now you have to beat him at it. A lot of people treat Garuda like some kind of neutral tool, when it should generally be treated more like "if you get hit by Garuda, even if you block it, and you weren't in the middle of jumping so it knocked you way back, it is _EXTREMELY_ not your turn". You just gotta respect it and know your options.

@@TheVenerableMrKrieg Thanks guys, it helps. I play Goldlewis so corner is basically my home. That's why I had such problems with Garuda. This might help a little bit.

Check the guilty gear playlists on the channel! I have quite a few videos going over roman cancels specifically. Also I think I have a section on exactly that in the big potemkin guide

well if you got knocked down and he did a meaty garuda. You block 2nd garuda and after that its basically just the regular guessing game. Jump out if you fear a throw or react to the next garuda, or stay blocking if you think he will do a strike instead that is faster than garuda that will catch your jump

@@rooflemonger thanks!

(Tower 9 Potemkin main here, take this advice as you will) It's worth noting that Milia and Chipp especially _don't_ have combos that decimate you. They might pull off impressive block pressure or oki on you but that isn't really abnormal when compared to other characters, and they make up for their strengths with bad stats _(health/damage)_ especially when compared with Potemkin. One good Pot "turn" is worth ~2 equivalent plays made by a Chipp or Milia. While Potemkin definitely has slower normals, range matters too and he's got it in spades, plus his normals are fast _enough_ to counter the kinds of attacks they *want* to get off on you. You'd be amazed how many times throwing out a 6HS at a Chipp in neutral will work, and while you shouldn't challenge a Chipp using a 5P, you can absolutely knock him out of an Alpha Blade with a 2P or 2S. I also recommend not over-relying on kara backwards megafist for pressure. It's definitely a great tool but sometimes, a normal backwards megafist is the safer thing, or fishing for a 2D/Slide Head, or using an f.S + 5HS combo to create distance. Especially because as a grappler, remaining unpredictable is paramount, IMO more important than "optimal play" in a good number of instances.

I did, so yes

I'm pretty sure it's been in each game, no?

@@peterhousen7974 Yes, done 2nd reversal after clash even in GGX long time ago.

Fffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck! I honestly have no idea how I've never heard this mentioned before now.

I guess make it less plus, but that also would cripple its use. Its very strong yeah but I feel like any small cuts to it could easily ruin the move

increase pots hurtbox so its not so disjointed

Honestly the likeliest answer to me is just a blanket nerf to guard breaks as a whole so you can yrc em. Either that or hitbox changes.... But I also am just not the biggest fan of how guard breaks are on any character really

@@ManlyPlant it wouldnt be a guard break if you could yrc

If they nerf Pot Garuda they should buff many Potemkin moves big time. Pot have some of the biggest weakness and Garuda is what make up for it because is the reward that you get by winning the neutral and knocking the opponent down in the corner, something that characters like Sol, Ramlethal and just many others don't need to do they just win the neutral that is not that hard for them and then do inmense damage out of (anything they do). Pot work very strange because he needs to do steps or take big risk to do absurd damage and besides Garuda, Commands Grabs and the corner he don't do that much damage compare to others. So yeah I won't mind Garuda getting nerf if they buff Pot.

he needs it :)

He's easily top 5, but "the most broken"? I can't tell if you're joking or bad.

@@CulturedDegenerate you must be a nag main.

I sincerely hope they don't! *edit* except for all the guard break moves for characters I don't use. They can nerf those

If they did this Gold Lewis would be alot worse off. It's basically half his kit.

The hammerfall approach after a garuda on hit (BD Caught) is a very unsafe approach that can really just be blocked, so you shouldnt worry about it too much

hammerfall after midscreen garuda(taking the hit via backdash) really isn't a thing. You will be negative before you are anywhere close when they get up. Its a hkd sure, but the frames don't really work out to your benefit

@@rooflemonger that is 🧢 you can be on top of them ready to continue pressure well before they recover. And meter being a plentiful resource as it is you can face roll PRC.