Surviving The Rate Fight | F-16C Viper Vs Mig-29 Fulcrum DOGFIGHT | Digital Combat Simulator

Surviving The Rate Fight | F-16C Viper Vs Mig-29 Fulcrum DOGFIGHT | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

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@GrowlingSidewinder Ай бұрын

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@American_Patriot1776__ Ай бұрын

YF-23 black widow Vs NATF-23 sea widow please

@firebald2915 Ай бұрын

Thanks, GS... You saved the search for many. That's why this channel is so fantastic, We learn from the Best.

@Anarchy_420 Ай бұрын

Please create a scenario where The A-10C & F-15E are competing against each other while technically on the same team but not really looking out for each other, trying to get the most kills (+ Important Kills), and of course survival! VS Couple Mi-24's, few Iglas, Strela, Tunguska, SA-11, and couple SU-25's! Plus provide ground support! VS .50 Technical Trucks, BTR's, BMP's, T-72's, and couple T-90's!🙏👍

@dreaminknight Ай бұрын

Very cool lessons!!! And with TacView visualization again 😂😍🥰

@numberyellow Ай бұрын

NGAD vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns and missles plzkthx SU-57 vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns only plzkthx

@barbaros99 Ай бұрын

Those diagrams along with your explanations were incredibly helpful. Thank you!

@fukimoto Ай бұрын

The visuals really help.

@karabenomar Ай бұрын

So helpful! We've had countless 1-circle vs. 2-circle dogfights but how you actually go about forcing your preferred fight on the bandit was always a bit of black magic. Thanks!

@tepes22b 27 күн бұрын

My wife was asking what the difference between 1- and 2-circle fights were. You couldn't have explained it more clearly!

@drannn360 21 күн бұрын

I talk about tactics with my wife and she just smiles and nods to make me feel better. 😂 I know she couldn’t give a shit

@madaxe606 Ай бұрын

Looking forward to seeing this revisited when the full fidelity MiG-29 releases. Also nice to see the Tacview make a return - always very helpful to visualize what’s happening.

@GabrielOliveira-cu1du Ай бұрын

Bro, the way you just know exactly what to do amazes me! I wish I had a setup to fly like this

@Patrick-zr8tv Ай бұрын

He's clearly very experienced that's for sure. I would say most of the skill is in being able to read the fight though. He seems to have impeccable situational awareness and can very quickly figure out how the fight is developing, allowing him to respond appropriately. It makes me jealous because I consider myself a pretty good fighter but I just cannot read the fight like GS can.

@GabrielOliveira-cu1du Ай бұрын

@@Patrick-zr8tv I *think* that I could be a decent flyer (even though I’ve never used any flight sim), but it would take a long time before I would be able to read the fight like he does. Thx for the reply!

@Millz666 29 күн бұрын

You just need a better gaming chair!

@52down 19 күн бұрын

@@Millz666 And a mouse pad

@TymaDem Ай бұрын

8:58 you almost went to Elvis there

@recreant17psn47 Ай бұрын

Boy was I happy to see the TacView was back with the piano. Cherry on top 👌

@theshinken Ай бұрын

Over the years you got better and better at explaining this and this video is the absolute peak. Even a complete novice should be able to get it this time.

@christopherchartier3017 Ай бұрын

These new G effects on the F-16 actually make it better

@spinningsquare1325 Ай бұрын

The g effects are for all planes

@christopherchartier3017 Ай бұрын

@@spinningsquare1325 Yeah but the F-16’s maneuverability relies on those high G elongated pulls

@spinningsquare1325 Ай бұрын

@@christopherchartier3017 so does the mig-29 as evident by that near death gray-out pull GS did in this video)

@700Dragon1 Ай бұрын

Love your videos!! I was a AD2 in the Navy and worked on the F/A 18 Hornet. I was on the USS Saratoga CV-60 and in Desert Storm and was on its last cruise, But you definitely need better opponents!!

@duncancrickett9212 Ай бұрын

Haven't seen so much exhaust smoke in your mirrors before XD

@optikid0373 Ай бұрын

Man your ability to both focus on a fight and win while also explaining exactly what you’re doin is impressive. Good job and thanks for tips

@commandergeokam2868 Ай бұрын

This by far the best explanation of the basic fight manuvers i have seen in the platform

@mattshreve9096 Ай бұрын

Thank you for the extra explanations and diagrams. I finally understand 1-circle vs 2-circle!! I've been watching your videos for years, and I never fully understood the terminology until now.

@truthseeker9454 Ай бұрын

9:06 Driver of the car passing through the fields - "Look Marge, it's a two circle dogfight! Marge - "And it looks like the Mig-29 is trying to offset his circle!"

@RudyRedTop 9 күн бұрын

The added visual examples are a great touch no matter how many times I've heard you explain it. They really help me actually visualize what you mean in my head.

@jerryaubert6201 28 күн бұрын

I LOVE the chess of this. The tactical "Oh he got slow you see..." I can keep trying to force one circle. As long as he keeps above 350 he can ride above my nose.

@angelosmyth7186 Ай бұрын

I've seen you explain this before, but this is your best video on the subject - great job!

@BrianTRice77 Ай бұрын

I love how far you’ve come in using diagrams, inflight explanations, and then TacView debriefs to get at combat geometry and tactics. I think I found this channel like 4 years ago when you were first grappling with a solid training in BFM and the tacview videos were great, but clearly meander a bit with what to present and why, and now you’ve got it laid out nicely.

@mikewebber4784 29 күн бұрын

Love the pop up diagrams and then the tacview debrief. Really helps me to understand how the fights develop.

@Scooter_McLuvin Ай бұрын

F16: "ShaWING"!

@soundscape5650 Ай бұрын

GS: *Does repeat battles* Also GS: *Absolutely refuses to fly the F35*

@MrSaaadpanda Ай бұрын

Love the Tac view! Thank you for that!!!

@muratbozkurt5967 Ай бұрын

Fantastic illustrations!! Great dogfighting course. Thanks for your efforts...... You're the proof that it is not the plane but the pilot who wins at the end!

@canadianbacon852 Ай бұрын

Thanks for the great explanation of 1 vs 2 circle…for some reason I’ve been struggling with this concept lol

@GrowlingSidewinder Ай бұрын

my pleasure, glad you found it helpful

@theskullkid421 Ай бұрын

The explanations are awesome! Gives the videos a whole new dimension!

@Maxdady01 Ай бұрын

The tac-view really brings home the altitude changes. Great job!

@daszieher Ай бұрын

You are the channel which has up to date best explained the terms rate fight, two-circle and one circle. In my early sim-flying days I had to learn the hard way. 😊 I remember flying aircraft, which could get around the circle faster than mine, but I could turn tighter, if there was space, so I had to resort to "bobbing" up and down, to "mess" up the quasi-static race around the circle that the opponent would have won. I also remember surprising other opponents in a rolling scissors by pointing the lift vector behind them while keeping them "over the shoulder" and cutting throttle on the way down and powering on on the way up. Funny, when you "sort of" learn by finding out and "misinterpreting" old handbooks. With YT knowledge is disseminated basically for free. Thank you!

@finjuise 26 күн бұрын

So much love in the comments, nice to see that in today's internets! Of all the 1/2 circle explanations you've done this was clearly the best. I wish nothing but success to you. The amount of work you put in to these videos is something else. Don't work too hard, Christmas break is still long way ahead ;)

@mahirpro2027 29 күн бұрын

TYSM for teaching the circle fights !

@DigitalPetrol 29 күн бұрын

Awesome episode. Loved this tacview - it's been too long. Thanks for the show!

@blessthismessss Ай бұрын

as someone who's been studying BFM as a passionate hobby since your sub count was in the tens of thousands, i personally really like these vids as refreshers, especially seeing as counter-2 circle tactics are honestly some of the least straightforward things to learn with bfm.

@5vFreeNz Ай бұрын

HOLLY SHIT! TACVIEW!! I missed that so much. Thanks from the old viewer!

@jonewc Ай бұрын

Great video! I love your commentary along with the on screen graphics to explain this topic. The review lesson at the end was great too. Thank you for producing such good content. I never miss a video!

@andrewfranson4756 29 күн бұрын

I always appreciate a tacview debrief, it really helps build a clear picture of the tactics you are teaching us.

@proffessorX Ай бұрын

Awesome video with some truly beautiful flying and excellent explanation of the circle fights.

@NavajoMX Ай бұрын

I love this format of video! I'd love to see the rolling scissor and split-S explained too! :D

@LZRDPUSS-lj3ss Ай бұрын

Dude, I love the MIG29 for some reason. always love seeing you fly it.

@dahno1975 29 күн бұрын

Great lesson once again, love the way you explain the tactics.

@therocinante3443 Ай бұрын

Now this is a classic style GS video. Love it.

@javierrflores Ай бұрын

Thanks for explaining.

@LDSG_A_Team Ай бұрын

Beautiful fight, even better explanations. Thank you sir

@danhoulahan Ай бұрын

Love the videos bro! as much as i love the dog fighting and learning from you really love the BVR and mission videos! keep bringing great content brother

@ojile13 Ай бұрын

Yeah I used to prefer the dogfights, but as I've watched more and learned more, I now definitely prefer the BVR

@alexeyaviator8600 Ай бұрын

Now I understood finally what 1 circle and 2 circle fight means. Thank you,

@yourmomisanicelady Ай бұрын

Thanks for explaining 1 vs 2 circle! I was asking in the comments of your vid yesterday about that very good timing :D

@frapwaam5964 Ай бұрын

Need more of these kind of explanation!

@Lee-sti8wrx Ай бұрын

Cheers for the explanations dude, love the tacview. You're training the next bunch of peeps to fight you, which is awesome because more people to fight = more GS videos. Sick plan bro lol. Loved the video as always man.

@RupertFoulmouth Ай бұрын

Thank you for clearing up my 1 circle 2 circle confusion.

@jurajhablak3424 Ай бұрын

Amazing video, now after 2 years watching your videos undestand what is one circle and what is two circle. Thank you, great explanatory.

@bareknuckleteam Ай бұрын

The MiG-29 is a beast! Great video as always!

@Spydr6684 Ай бұрын

16:09 And that’s how you get a lot of your wins in other videos, with the early turn reversal.

@davidmason9118 Ай бұрын

Incredible. Fantastic commentary.

@ridewithted2003 Ай бұрын

That was great. Thanks for the explaination. I understand now.

@kentowakai1234 Ай бұрын

Next time I am flying an F-16 in a dogfight with a Mig, I'll know what to do. Thanks for the life skills.

@jamesdacy7332 Ай бұрын

Awesome video I understand know how you can "force" the fight into a one circle. Dog fighting is starting to make sense

@williamlong6373 Ай бұрын

Loved this... the ribbon explanation was very insightful

@abbaerfani9007 Ай бұрын

Holy GS you did work hell out of that MIG29 I told you another day you are missing the MIGs. I like the way you flying the SU27 or MIG29 .Gerat job by you again thanks ❤❤❤

@kertaspaper94 29 күн бұрын

My way of understanding the circles fights: 1 Circle: whoever draws the smaller circle wins. 2 Circle: whoever finishes their circle first wins.

@Xaunoki Ай бұрын

I liked the little two circle and one circle diagrams you put in the upper left of the screen. I know what you're talking about because I've been watching for years at this point, but for newer subscribers, it probably helps tremendously to understand what you're referring to. It seems like the offset two circle initiation process is more or less half of a lazy eight.

@JoelLinus Ай бұрын

Tacview is back, that's great, I still wish it would've been there for the Aim-260 Video.

@Mike_Romeo Ай бұрын

My friend, the Aim-260 is 1. still in development 2. still classified and so nobody knows how it works or its performance and 3. it wasnt revealed to public yet and nobody besides it creators know how it even looks like.

@JoelLinus Ай бұрын

@@Mike_Romeo Idc how it performs, I just wanted to see the Tacview

@adamdalton2965 Ай бұрын

reminds me of military training. it was explained so well i understood the 1st time. i was then taught 5 more times. only thing missing was a couple of exaggerated foot stomps.

@PaskaKo Ай бұрын

Insane how tactical these fights are...

@SSJ4Brohan Ай бұрын

Dang..... Tac View. Talk about nostalgia. ❤👍🏼

@DerInterloper Ай бұрын

These rapid release of dogfight videos make me happy. I would love to see half hour clips or longer.

@Ozasuke Ай бұрын

I miss the tacview debrief! Thank you for explaining the 1C vs. 2C as well as how to convert them during a dogfight.

@lukecreamer8426 Ай бұрын

10:35 the viper gets nose on first because it wins the two circle, and this was still a two-circle, but the offset meant it was a head-on snapshot with plenty of room for jinking and pilot error, not the F-16 chillin on your 6. A professional F-16 pilot would do what GS said and match your movements. There are degrees to maneuvering in relation.

@W1ckedRcL Ай бұрын

Dude.. those visual aides are MONEY. So good for new viewers. And nice to see a tac view every now and again.

@2011dgk Ай бұрын

I see a lot of good long fights in the future. Great job once again, if an opponent is better makes for really good vids

@adriansperling5012 Ай бұрын

Ahh, good ol’ tacview. I always found the tacview analysis the most informative.

@orionmec 29 күн бұрын

I think that was one of my favorite trainings with the action then the tack view.

@user-kn4rf8nh6d Ай бұрын

If it wasn't for you I would not be playing DCS. Your video's not only introduced me to DCS but have always been entertaining and informative. This old man thanks you.

@knndyskful Ай бұрын

You have such an incredible mastery of the tactics it seems often that it doesn’t matter what you’re flying you’ll be able to win

@christophermcsherry2655 Ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing this knowledge.

@andersbonde5185 Ай бұрын

You are by far the best pilot on KZfaq, and I think thats the issue. You always win these fights. I could like to see you fight your self :) Thanks for a great video, and I love hwo you are able to talk thought the technic of these fights.

@Mike_Romeo Ай бұрын

Are you kidding ? He lost a lot in his videos recently

@andersbonde5185 29 күн бұрын

@@Mike_Romeohmm okay, its just my view. I think when he was fighting the French Mirages pilot - he really had found an equally pilot.

@Mike_Romeo 29 күн бұрын

@@andersbonde5185 Equally ? He got destroyed

@TheRibbonFighter Ай бұрын

Would love to see the following. Su-30SM vs Su-57, Su30sm vs Su-75, and su-57 vs Su-75.

@pappajag Ай бұрын

It appears the mig 29 is quite the gunfighter too. Of course pilot makes all the difference

@keepwalking6041 29 күн бұрын

actually he is king of dogfights together with su27.. back in 80s russians had total superiority in dogfights due to schmell ability to fire off-boresight archer infrared missile.. it means well 100 % win on dogfight scenarios.. only hope for west was BVR fight but back then it was far from perfect, dogfights would happen naturally..

@yorkan213swd6 Ай бұрын

Great circle explanation and graphics finally ! It took me years to understand…

@horusfalcon 29 күн бұрын

Very well done!

@chongpak6864 Ай бұрын

Those graphics explaining the circled are great

@craigburney8045 Ай бұрын

Great lesson!

@davidca96 Ай бұрын

MiG-29A is my favorite plane in DCS.

@ycplum7062 27 күн бұрын

I am a visual person, not an audio person. I understand better when I can "see" what is being said. To do arithmetic problems, I need to write it down. TO memorize phonenumbers, I either need to write it down or visualize the numbers in my head. Your diagrams are incredibly helpful.

@GoodHuntingS.T.A.L.K.E.R. Ай бұрын

These past few videos about the offset 2 circle have really help me. I was always wondering why my rate fights were so janky.

@EwokEight Ай бұрын

What a great video for new viewers!

@charlestaylor8616 29 күн бұрын

This is the best video explanation of the difference between 2 and 1 circle in layman terms.😉

@Cyanos345 Ай бұрын

Bro this was a masterclass

@NotAgentAJ Ай бұрын

now i really want to see you fight a MiG-29 in an F-16 with these explanations afterward

@ReiMonCoH Ай бұрын

👍🏻I like the illustrations

@whatsyours6424 29 күн бұрын

Two legends colide ... great video loved it

@kt3505 Ай бұрын

The diagrams are an awesome reference for us civilians!! Thank you!

@woistwalter7037 29 күн бұрын

really cool lesson. thx.

@controllerpleb6568 Ай бұрын

I don't really have any interest in dog fighting myself, but it's really cool to see such a skilled pilot explain the maneuvers.

@timpowell1463 Ай бұрын

You can see it better when you explain it with diagrams than watching it happen. Thank you

@8power0 Ай бұрын

LOVING THIS CHANNEL ,,,,,,,,,,,,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@thejetfighter Ай бұрын

Nice explanation! 🙂

@scottajones3 Ай бұрын

I'm a big fan of the tac view! Ty

@mehmedbeklenen5059 28 күн бұрын

Very educating, you are good scholar,i learned many things

@businessprodigy_ Ай бұрын

I want more F-22 vs Eurofighter Typhoon in BVR fight !

@bigmassivehug9530 24 күн бұрын

Love these explanation videos