Susan Sontag and Agnès Varda

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Cultureta Murcia

Cultureta Murcia

4 жыл бұрын

During the 7th New York Film Festival, Susan Sontag and Agnès Varda discuss their films with Jack Kroll.

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@OliverGByrne
@OliverGByrne 5 ай бұрын
I love how it felt Sontag and Varda where mentally communicating with each other throughout the interview. It is like we can hear them going “Is this man for real?!” . Their faces say it all. What a wasted opportunity , we could have had those two legends talk to each other instead …
@dominiquerivard
@dominiquerivard 4 жыл бұрын
This should be renamed: Jack Kroll says what he thinks of Susan Sontag and Agnès Varda films and sometimes allows them to speak.
@MsBluewise
@MsBluewise 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. He can't wait for them to leave a space. My thoughts too. It could easily have been so much more.
@SuperRobertoClemente
@SuperRobertoClemente 3 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness for your comment, I can't bear to watch
@dr.pennington1664
@dr.pennington1664 3 жыл бұрын
@@MsBluewise yes, and when Sontag says "In real life people interrupt people all the time..." he interrupts her at that very moment.
@yvonneb8555
@yvonneb8555 Жыл бұрын
Was just going to say I was skipping around in the transcript trying to find the places where he’s not talking and let’s just say it was a challenge!! 😒
@kbarnbrook4993
@kbarnbrook4993 Жыл бұрын
@Yvonne B The problem is he seems to be talking, for the sake of talking, and what he is saying is complete nonsense, it doesn't sound like he understands the work of either director, just bluff.
@MichaelPhillips-cg8zk
@MichaelPhillips-cg8zk 3 жыл бұрын
Lol when Susan Sontag was like “in Films people never interrupt other people, that’s not life real like where people are always interrupting eacho-“ Jack: *interrupts*
@priad2179
@priad2179 3 жыл бұрын
i just - the way susan stares at the interviewer... the way agnes called him out on his racism immidiately... their genius, his idiocy.... I -
@priad2179
@priad2179 3 жыл бұрын
"You're intellectuals - that's a bad word - you're women - that's a good word - "
@fastinbulvis2223
@fastinbulvis2223 2 жыл бұрын
The way agnes squeezes in the smear "racism" as soon as she can, even though it had nothing to do with what they were talking about. FIFY
@drparnassus2867
@drparnassus2867 Жыл бұрын
I think Varda meant "It's a bit disrespectful calling other people 'grotesque'", and English wasn't her first language.
@hazelwray4184
@hazelwray4184 8 ай бұрын
'his racism immediately'
@sherminep
@sherminep 4 жыл бұрын
this is terrible, the most brilliant thinkers and artists of everrrrrr together and he wont shut up. how many times did he say grotesque? por dios
@michaelwatson4218
@michaelwatson4218 3 жыл бұрын
He's mansplaining their own films to them. This should go in the Hall of Fame of Mansplaining.
@blackmore4
@blackmore4 2 жыл бұрын
He's almost as annoying as all the pissy woke people complaining about him on this page.
@andreaandrea6716
@andreaandrea6716 6 ай бұрын
Yes!!!
@erichruyalves
@erichruyalves 6 ай бұрын
7:33 "in film people usually don´t interrupt others in the middle of the phrase" DAMN SUSAN
@allfieldsrequired1
@allfieldsrequired1 3 жыл бұрын
Did Agnes Varda get to finish a complete sentence at all?
@SoCalFreelance
@SoCalFreelance 3 жыл бұрын
Breaks out a cigarette live on air -- definitely a different era.
@thefionaadventures
@thefionaadventures Жыл бұрын
this interview is so frustrating but so calming at the same time
@SculptExpress-gv8jp
@SculptExpress-gv8jp 11 ай бұрын
I love it. There is an interesting tension here on an intellectual level. We have nothing like that today. We are being forcefully fed with reality trash or nauseous comedy. The void is so big and painful.
@andreaandrea6716
@andreaandrea6716 6 ай бұрын
@@SculptExpress-gv8jp Best comment!!! Yes. Everyone now is supposed to be 'Nice' and not hurt anyone's feelings. There is to be no discussion about anything. It's all pablum, or about 'who's right.' I watch old Dick Cavett shows. He challenges but also, He's charming and affectionate with his guests.
@tomheneghan9602
@tomheneghan9602 4 жыл бұрын
"There is something happening here but you don't know what it is do you, Mr Jones"
@blackmore4
@blackmore4 2 жыл бұрын
"Something"? That's right, Bob Dylan didn't know what it was either.
@MrUndersolo
@MrUndersolo Жыл бұрын
I was actually thinking of that song as I watched this. Thank you.
@mschristyleigh
@mschristyleigh 3 жыл бұрын
He's so in over his head with these brilliant women! He's literally squirming.
@Mistermopar
@Mistermopar 2 жыл бұрын
Your brilliant Susan Sontag claims that ‘The white race is the cancer of human history’. I find her truly repugnant!
@blackmore4
@blackmore4 2 жыл бұрын
Why is _everything_ some kind of competition or battle these days? The guy had about as much charm as wet skunk but, for pity's sake, it's an interviewer's job to take interviewees to task a bit. A less confrontational interviewer may not have made Varda and Sontag come across so well.
@fastinbulvis2223
@fastinbulvis2223 2 жыл бұрын
"brilliant"? They were both overrated and underperforming.
@Kraisedion
@Kraisedion Жыл бұрын
@@fastinbulvis2223 How exactly did Varda underperform?
@kbarnbrook4993
@kbarnbrook4993 Жыл бұрын
@blackmore4 They only come across so well, because the guy is a complete buffoon, he just continously waffles, no connection to either womens subject matter.
@hc6271
@hc6271 2 жыл бұрын
the way sontag stares into the camera within the first 3 minutes like 'are you hearing this guy..?'
@joesatana
@joesatana 2 жыл бұрын
Susan Sontag And Agnès Varda are two of the most interesting and influential artists of the 20Th century, who is Jack Kroll?
@magicknight13
@magicknight13 Жыл бұрын
Two fantastic intelligent dedicated women!!
@jacksondiianni389
@jacksondiianni389 2 жыл бұрын
Agnes: What do you mean grotesque? My characters aren't grotesque. Are they insects? Are they garbage? Who said grotesque? What the fuck does that mean? Susan: Let me just fire up this spliff ...
@AkashGupta-zx9iw
@AkashGupta-zx9iw 4 ай бұрын
2:02 Susan- Don't worry Agnes, I'm gonna put him in his place!
@livetoshoptolive
@livetoshoptolive 3 жыл бұрын
this is why we need feminism.
@unknowndes1re
@unknowndes1re 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@SuperRobertoClemente
@SuperRobertoClemente 3 жыл бұрын
yup
@Aerojet01
@Aerojet01 2 жыл бұрын
It only seems to benefit the middle class.
@fastinbulvis2223
@fastinbulvis2223 2 жыл бұрын
This is why feminism died and why boring and pretentious women like these two killed it.
@godelianconfucianism8184
@godelianconfucianism8184 2 жыл бұрын
You need feminism to let bourgeois intellectuals spread philosophical bullshittery and red propaganda on television? Lmao
@jackloo7233
@jackloo7233 5 ай бұрын
I love both of these women.
@angelachristina.v
@angelachristina.v 3 жыл бұрын
Susan Sontag and Agnès Varda will always be remembered as great, the interviewer not. Harsh but true.
@abelnicolae
@abelnicolae 2 жыл бұрын
none of them are remembered
@harrys919
@harrys919 2 ай бұрын
Literally just wrong?​@@abelnicolae
@ingridllinas5612
@ingridllinas5612 8 ай бұрын
So interesting to know about their way of thinking and what was behind those scenes. They were looking for authenticity, and somehow media or TV had an influence on the people. Look like having a political background, but according to them, they were real people and there was kind of humor in Sontag’s film. Thanks so much.
3 жыл бұрын
Ahhh iki sevdiğim müthiş kadın bir arada .
@johncampbell1152
@johncampbell1152 3 жыл бұрын
Jack Kroll is appalling. Agnès was a genius, as was Susan. I loathe Kroll’s condescension. Why must he keep saying he’s playing the devil’s advocate?
@SuperRobertoClemente
@SuperRobertoClemente 3 жыл бұрын
"devil's advocate" = I have nothing to say but I won't stop talking
@blackmore4
@blackmore4 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't like him either but for pity's sake, it's an interviewer's job to take their subjects to task. Please don't fall into this terrible modern trap of being freaked out about anything or anyone you don't agree with.
@Aerojet01
@Aerojet01 2 жыл бұрын
@@blackmore4 Well said.
@abelnicolae
@abelnicolae 2 жыл бұрын
oh how the definition of genius has gone into decay, my god...
@andreaandrea6716
@andreaandrea6716 6 ай бұрын
@@blackmore4 No. It isn't because Kroll is unlikable. It's because he's RUDE! He's a condescending horse's ass who likes the sound of his own voice and thinks, because he's speaking to women, that he can speak DOWN to them. And it's not because I'm young and don't understand the difference between now and then. If you listen to Dick Cavett, he is also intellectually challenging but he is NOT rude and he is not condescending. There IS a difference. (I'm old enough to remember. I love and miss the days when we actually talked about things and challenged each other intellectually. Now, everything is about who's wrong and who's right. There is no intellectual discussion and that is a great shame!).
@pavelserdyuk
@pavelserdyuk 3 жыл бұрын
Was it a lecture or an interview?
@varmaraviajay
@varmaraviajay 4 жыл бұрын
hahahaa this is a short film in itself
@varmaraviajay
@varmaraviajay 4 жыл бұрын
i love how the interviewer really does not know how to ask questions. preferred route is to put forward his opinion and ask them to comment. hahahaha. and have to commend the ladies for fielding this gracefully, while really calling out when words are being put in their mouths
@citomp1240
@citomp1240 2 жыл бұрын
ah would love Susan and Agnes.
@MartinQMurphy
@MartinQMurphy 2 жыл бұрын
fantastic
@nealjohnston954
@nealjohnston954 2 жыл бұрын
I like how the so called interviewer fumbles and dissolves as he instantaneously recognizes he has no formulated argument worth mentioning. He is clearly disarmed by these two great personalities. His only approach is to stretch out his murky remarks with long over run sentences - to arrive at the same dead end point of expressing dissaproval and contempt.
@Tauan
@Tauan Жыл бұрын
And the worst of all, he is impassive! He is too blind by his own ego to even consider the possibility of a different approach, to anything, really. It's tragic.
@Eva-ne8nn
@Eva-ne8nn 2 жыл бұрын
most impressive thing to me about this is how susan sontag casually wont exhale her cig smoke
@abelnicolae
@abelnicolae 2 жыл бұрын
she is not smoking.
@andreaandrea6716
@andreaandrea6716 6 ай бұрын
This is why we had the Women's Movement.
@thaliafourli7707
@thaliafourli7707 3 жыл бұрын
I don't get angry easily but this man enraged me. How can someone be so arrogant and clueless? So disrespectful...
@user-fm4tg1ud4n
@user-fm4tg1ud4n Жыл бұрын
with this, you can see how the world has changed, and just with little feminism
@SculptExpress-gv8jp
@SculptExpress-gv8jp 11 ай бұрын
Enraged you?? Disrespectful? In the Trumpist media age, you find this so bad? The journalist is supposed to put some hard talk forward and they (the ladies who I like very much) can handle it. They are not fools, they can defend their work (this is the society of 1960s). Who needs a candy floss type of interview?
@hoimoitoigoi
@hoimoitoigoi 10 ай бұрын
​@@SculptExpress-gv8jpwell sure, if only this was an actual interview and not a guy talking at Sontag and Varda with his dull readings of their films 😅
@mwcmango
@mwcmango 3 жыл бұрын
these interviewers of this ilk have no interest in learning about the person they are interviewing. They are just interested in confirming to the audience what they already believe to be true and is inevitably not true.
@alicecarrick-smith5855
@alicecarrick-smith5855 3 жыл бұрын
susan is such a geezer just chuffing a durry whilst smirking at him
@darrriadoes
@darrriadoes Жыл бұрын
"you're intellectuals. bad word. women. good word" - tf this man even talking about..
@balajis1602
@balajis1602 3 жыл бұрын
I could get a sense of what the US was like back then with this interview....In many ways still the same attitude and pseudo-intellectuality persists
@EM-tl9sz
@EM-tl9sz Жыл бұрын
It is such a different interview when a journalist starts with an accurate understanding of their subject and proceeds with intelligence and curiousity, rather than an impressionistic smirk.
@whhzh2ziah
@whhzh2ziah 2 жыл бұрын
수잔손택 목소리에서 지적인 매력이 뚝뚝 떨어짐.. ㅠ 영화배우도 했어도 잘했을듯. 핵간지남.
@konnik2326
@konnik2326 3 жыл бұрын
I understand why the word "intellectual" is bad for him. Pure sexism and stupidity.
@mahoneykumar
@mahoneykumar 4 жыл бұрын
This is enlightening. Real world language, “long haired” people seem very threatening in Jack Kroll’s line of questioning. Today, it is LGBTQ and ethnicities and non-Christian religions.
@Aerojet01
@Aerojet01 2 жыл бұрын
Aren't generalizing and assumptions a form of ignorance?
@JamesKolakowski
@JamesKolakowski 3 жыл бұрын
love how the annoying interviewer proves her point at 7:38
@user-xo8cz7yk6q
@user-xo8cz7yk6q 2 күн бұрын
literally absurd man, incredible women
@abreshmeee
@abreshmeee 2 ай бұрын
GOD, I LOVE WOMEN SO MUCH.
@carolaybob
@carolaybob 2 жыл бұрын
And ,,,,,where's the interviuw???
@TheJork64
@TheJork64 3 жыл бұрын
Ya siéntese, señor 😞
@turkandulger9013
@turkandulger9013 2 ай бұрын
Ben olsam orayı terk ederim. İkisi de neden bu kadar sakin. 😮 Bu kabul edilemez.
@joannaknight5590
@joannaknight5590 2 жыл бұрын
@argobronwynzygor1954
@argobronwynzygor1954 5 ай бұрын
Love these two but who"s the weirdo bothering them?
@cinema2748
@cinema2748 4 ай бұрын
I wouold have asked the interviewer that - "I would like to know your definition of "grotesque" to be able to analyze if we can associate the term with the people or not. I would rather say that they are their own beings and other people attaching "tag" names to tme to box them - is it fair ??!!
@fredschwartz5032
@fredschwartz5032 Жыл бұрын
missed opportunity. terrible interview but good to see the ladies
@soundsofsense
@soundsofsense 3 жыл бұрын
He cannot stand that their are clearly smarter than him 🤣
@soundsofsense
@soundsofsense 3 жыл бұрын
They* that was a typo oops
@Taino07272002
@Taino07272002 2 жыл бұрын
What year was this...? I don't see actual year.
@Frank-mm2yp
@Frank-mm2yp 2 жыл бұрын
1969 @ the 7th Annual NY Film Festial
@emil5322
@emil5322 2 жыл бұрын
what a truely unpleasant man
@ferre347
@ferre347 2 жыл бұрын
He’s inadequate.. he fears it and it shows
@davidspihers1757
@davidspihers1757 6 ай бұрын
That guy is such a tool. Patronizing, interrupting and mansplainy you can tell how irritated he is that Sontag and Varda aren’t on board with him.
@rhuang9683
@rhuang9683 3 жыл бұрын
what year is this from?
@VertigoDefinitivo
@VertigoDefinitivo 3 жыл бұрын
1969.
@pennyb9445
@pennyb9445 3 жыл бұрын
Jack Kroll The mansplaining king!
@adamkhmer
@adamkhmer Жыл бұрын
Watching this after the announcement that Kristen Stewart will play Sontag. And I think my girl will do her justice. Can’t wait to see the META biopic.
@mac2phin
@mac2phin 2 жыл бұрын
I know Jack Shit, er, Kroll.
@ericmalone3213
@ericmalone3213 Жыл бұрын
Jack Kroll can not deal with Susan Sontag or Agnes Varda. All is lost on him.
@lethokuhlemsimang2208
@lethokuhlemsimang2208 9 ай бұрын
I swear, so many interviews conducted around this time were so unabashedly chauvinist
@andreaandrea6716
@andreaandrea6716 6 ай бұрын
Yup!
@casssmith9479
@casssmith9479 7 ай бұрын
Watching this with the Tom Tom Club in the background, it goes pretty well despite the fact Jack Kroll is annoying and stupid and bad at interviewing these two powerhouses.
@keihnungm2011
@keihnungm2011 3 жыл бұрын
should've got dick cavett (or better yet no 'interviewer' at all)
@blackmore4
@blackmore4 2 жыл бұрын
God, you're _so_ 21st century.
@keihnungm2011
@keihnungm2011 2 жыл бұрын
@@blackmore4 you're a womble
@daliamartinez1494
@daliamartinez1494 3 жыл бұрын
What an awful interviewer 🤬🤬 I would of leave
@paulhorn27
@paulhorn27 2 жыл бұрын
The interviewer just loves listening to the sound of his own voice. EWW!
@petemc5070
@petemc5070 Жыл бұрын
Sontag is super interesting, but that clip from her film is laughably bad.
@friendlier
@friendlier 10 ай бұрын
A masterclass in mansplaining.
@barbarajohnson1442
@barbarajohnson1442 2 жыл бұрын
Real people are grotesque, sad man.
@ekanaeva
@ekanaeva 2 жыл бұрын
he makes me so mad
@hugo2216
@hugo2216 2 жыл бұрын
selective perspective , cough ...
@diamondcomposte
@diamondcomposte 2 жыл бұрын
What an annoying interviewer. I wish he would have just let them speak amongst themselves.
@lynxapollonia7511
@lynxapollonia7511 2 жыл бұрын
I liked this video only for the wonderful, interesting, intelligent, beautiful women. The rest frustrates me so much, I want to dislike it:)
@Frank-mm2yp
@Frank-mm2yp 2 жыл бұрын
The "Senior Editor of NEWSWEEK" (!) was way out of his league vs Sontag and Varda. Perhaps he might have been more comfortable interviewing the then current Miss America and her First Runner-up? Pathetic.... NEWSWEEK?! Were they kidding?
@liltick102
@liltick102 11 ай бұрын
The 80’s is when everything sucked, the people-everything did, at least more.. the 20’s-70’s were rad. 90’s reupped briefly culturally...
@davidchipps
@davidchipps 2 жыл бұрын
I'VE NEVER WANTED TO BE TRANSGENDER. BUT, TO THINK OF WASTING ALL THAT MONEY AND END UP LOOKING AND ACTING LIKE SUSAN SONTAG at the end of the day. I'd still never sleep with MATT LE BLANC and I'D LOOK LIKE THAT.
@paulhorn27
@paulhorn27 2 жыл бұрын
Cool story bro
@abelnicolae
@abelnicolae 2 жыл бұрын
I like how the masses always cheer and get a hard-on when feminism is expressed by rudeness and unpoliteness. True, the interviewer has many flaws, but, in his ignorance, he is nontheless a gentleman. The ladies, on the other hand, have their fists up, ready to strike at the first word they find minimally condescending.
@sarritata
@sarritata 3 жыл бұрын
awful "interviewer".. missed the chance to really listen what incredible women had to share.
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