Camille Paglia on Susan Sontag 1993

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13 жыл бұрын

Camille Paglia reponds to Sontag's claim that she's never heard of her.

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@Fly98656
@Fly98656 9 жыл бұрын
she's not into rock
@surplusrevenge2013
@surplusrevenge2013 Жыл бұрын
such a great comment lmao
@warglow
@warglow 10 жыл бұрын
Paglia is a rapper.
@JackR777
@JackR777 8 жыл бұрын
+G Man You couldn't be more right. I want to see this video adapted into a feature length film worthy of "8 Mile".
@PappyMandarine
@PappyMandarine 5 жыл бұрын
And she's dissing hard the others who are not "real" enough anymore
@Andi-xp7de
@Andi-xp7de 3 жыл бұрын
A pretentious parrot...just like these times, yes
@pauls6043
@pauls6043 10 жыл бұрын
"I'm the Sontag of the 90's" jezus....
@SalsaSharky
@SalsaSharky 6 жыл бұрын
Cocaaaaaaaine
@johnnyall-y-deu9079
@johnnyall-y-deu9079 5 жыл бұрын
Did you realy wrote Jesus with Zet?
@jonathankieranwriter
@jonathankieranwriter 3 жыл бұрын
Not saying Camille was, but SOMEONE probably had to be the “Sontag of the ‘90s” because Sontag herself sure as hell wasn’t.
@mrsean111
@mrsean111 11 жыл бұрын
"You'd be surprised at all of the things I don't know, because I know about a lot of other things, and I read all the time, and I don't think I'm wasting my time on what I do read, so...one can't read everything."
@jonathankieranwriter
@jonathankieranwriter 3 жыл бұрын
Across years and through cyber-screens I could actually smell Sontag release a Pâté de Foie Gras fart as she uttered that cringeworthy babble. Her fart was horrific. The Pâté was probably quite toothsome.
@mravawishes
@mravawishes Жыл бұрын
@@jonathankieranwriter I SCREAMEDDDDDD SO HARD CANT CONTAIN THE LAUGHTER HELP STOP JAIL
@SexuallyRepressedMegalodon
@SexuallyRepressedMegalodon 2 ай бұрын
@@punkbjorktaking the bait, shame on me, but Paglia basically said that Sontag has turned into a fossil, which she seems to confirm with this school matronly comment on Paglia and her work. She’s not paying attention to the cultural fabric anymore that she’s writing about.
@SexuallyRepressedMegalodon
@SexuallyRepressedMegalodon 2 ай бұрын
@@punkbjork sorry. Don’t know if you have seen it, but „being autistic“ has kind of become a meme or sth people say when they mean they are socially distanced, super into a topic or something. Wasn’t sure if you meant it literally 😌
@natkoyama
@natkoyama 12 жыл бұрын
love when Paglia tosses her head back after she says her book had been a best seller for years, what a legend so arrogant
@dn8015
@dn8015 2 ай бұрын
😂❤#iconic
@TrailerBob
@TrailerBob 3 жыл бұрын
Paglia and Tarantino should have an "okay?"-off.
@punkbjork
@punkbjork 9 ай бұрын
aries
@boblazar9720
@boblazar9720 2 жыл бұрын
This is Camile's version of "the more you ignore me, the closer I get..."
@DHU11
@DHU11 Жыл бұрын
Paglia’s hate towards Sontag is so funny. She clearly venerated Sontag until Sontag offhandedly dismissed her, then Paglia almost instantly started waging a war against her - insisting Sontag was just jealous of her. Sontag bruised Paglia’s ego by dismissing the supposed social influence Paglia had ascribed to herself. Her hate for Sontag is a classic case of scorn emanating from rejection, from one of her idols no less. I think all Paglia’s public opprobrium of Sontag was actually a desperate attempt to capture her attention.
@mravawishes
@mravawishes Жыл бұрын
and even if all of this was true (and not all of it is, especially regarding the approximations of the respective cultural impacts of the two), wouldn't that just make paglia a campy queen? i mean i'd simply say "she's so real for that!"
@DHU11
@DHU11 Жыл бұрын
@@mravawishes 😂😂
@heperile
@heperile Жыл бұрын
"Sontag came out of hiding, Germaine Grier came out of hiding and suddenly people realized how interesting I am." Love her
@ohitbe3616
@ohitbe3616 3 жыл бұрын
Camile was fucking hilarious here. So biting and concentrated, like a laser.
@laurent4122
@laurent4122 2 жыл бұрын
I know! I love it. "I am the Sontag of the 90's"
@ohitbe3616
@ohitbe3616 Жыл бұрын
@@laurent4122 "there's no doubt about that". Gangsta.
@briansimerl9027
@briansimerl9027 9 жыл бұрын
Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
@AB-bt9eb
@AB-bt9eb 7 жыл бұрын
She's definitely not on drugs.
@dougiebowne
@dougiebowne 7 жыл бұрын
No, she's just unbearable.
@oden67
@oden67 7 жыл бұрын
maybe just too smart for you?
@dougiebowne
@dougiebowne 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that must be it Gandhi.
@belleofkilronan8565
@belleofkilronan8565 8 жыл бұрын
Interesting, because now Paglia has become what she claimed Sontag was in the early 90s. She constantly berates new music as lacking depth, criticizes modern art as solipsistic and full of nihilism, while haranguing about the digitization of art, and constantly credits her generation as everything this one isn't. She doesn't follow pop culture like she use to then. Stop me if you if you heard this one before: "I'm a product of the 60's", "I'm a Baby Boomer", "My generation was the first" and so forth. I agree with her on many points, but she's in danger of sounding as out of it and as faded as she charged Sontag with here.
@ShikagoMale1
@ShikagoMale1 8 жыл бұрын
+Moussaka Chaos The music today IS lacking depth- and even people in the Art World decry its solipsism.
@belleofkilronan8565
@belleofkilronan8565 8 жыл бұрын
ShikagoMale1 Not disagreeing. Just saying everything came full circle.
@unowithteeth5472
@unowithteeth5472 8 жыл бұрын
POPOLUAR music lacks depth. That;s more because of the corporate market than anything. Sometimes older people don;t see the REAL youth culture because it's not on TV nowadays. But there are a lot of artists youngans are listening to that older people aren't aware of because it's off the charts.
@yaggayaggaya9918
@yaggayaggaya9918 7 жыл бұрын
Praesepe Such is the curse of age, we often recoil in onto ourselves. When we are younger we explore everything but as we grow older, with death on our heels and nostalgia on out mind, we return only to the most significant places from our exploring days, the ones that remind us of the spirit of our youth. For example, BBC Radio 1 DJ John Peel was famous for playing obscure or new music on his show that others wouldn't touch, but throughout his life, and especially in his final decade, he often played the music he grew up with, country and rockabilly, or new music that had the spirit of his old love, hence his obsession with PJ Harvey and the White Stripes as well as Laura Cantrell, the Fall and Pavement, all of whom were inspired by the blues, country and rockabilly in some way.
@belleofkilronan8565
@belleofkilronan8565 7 жыл бұрын
+Kid Koon I think there's much more to the recoiling of ourselves than that of old age. Shielding oneself from the harshness of people and the intrusion of the external world is one. Sontag seems like such an individual; a staunch introvert with a definite idea how she wants her immediate environment to be structured around her. Paglia seems to mistake this selectivity for snobbishness and disengagement. Paglia is in many ways like Madonna. Both ruthlessly recycle other ideas from people and do so with added flair and gumption. Does this make for an interesting figure in pop music (Madonna) or syncretic academic (Paglia)? Yes. Does this make for substance? No. Both Madonna and Paglia are indebted to the original ideas of their progenitors and need a slew of gimmicks and mainstays to maintain public interest in their personas. Madonna with her cynical business savvy, changing her image to stay atop current trends, exploiting Americans’ prurient in sexuality to garner controversy. Paglia by pretending to be voice to essentially conservative sympathies without naming it as such, and identifying herself as a self-styled 60’s era Boomer dissident who is aware of the decadence caused by her generation. She sets the table for reactionary sympathies to develop in response to this decadence, but if you read into her carefully, that’s not what she advocates for, thankfully. And Paglia is always fighting against mainline feminists, while not abandoning the term altogether to describe herself with, because after all, if the solution is to defect from the movement altogether, what reason will there be to criticize? Paglia, like Madonna, is original in her presentation, which initially interested me. She presents things in a refreshing way. But Sontag is the original mother for me. I also relate to her, as a fellow introvert.
@benjamingoldstein1111
@benjamingoldstein1111 6 жыл бұрын
I love this video. Sontag: I'm full of myself! Paglia: No, I'm full of myself! Sontag: I'm the fullest of myself! Paglia: I, me, I, I, I! Sontag: MEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
@christianwehner5565
@christianwehner5565 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, the best kind of cat fights...
@mravawishes
@mravawishes Жыл бұрын
divas fr
@christo930
@christo930 12 жыл бұрын
This woman does not suffer from low self esteem, that's for sure!
@florencehenderson3707
@florencehenderson3707 11 ай бұрын
agreed. and I think she HAD to point out her importance to others because otherwise they might refuse to even see it! she had to be the one to say fearless things about herself, because she was so on fire and controversial that others were going to dismiss her. I love her for that.
@CandyHam
@CandyHam 8 жыл бұрын
damn paglia is fast
@SalsaSharky
@SalsaSharky 6 жыл бұрын
Cocaaaaaiiiiine
@okyouknowwhatever
@okyouknowwhatever 6 жыл бұрын
Camille doesn't take drugs. She is drugs.
@debracharles-clay5202
@debracharles-clay5202 5 жыл бұрын
Speed freak
@marcelmagi4600
@marcelmagi4600 8 жыл бұрын
She's such an obvious outsider and people enjoy the fight she has in her. She's so invigorating. She's so alive with life, warmth, and honesty. I just adore her!
@mwpmousseau
@mwpmousseau 8 жыл бұрын
+Caleb Taylor Sontag or Paglia?
@marcelmagi4600
@marcelmagi4600 8 жыл бұрын
Paglia.
@mwpmousseau
@mwpmousseau 8 жыл бұрын
That's too bad.
@marcelmagi4600
@marcelmagi4600 8 жыл бұрын
Haha. You obviously disagree?
@mwpmousseau
@mwpmousseau 8 жыл бұрын
+Caleb Taylor I'm sure there are many reasons to like Camille Paglia, but this video isn't one of them. She lashes out at Sontag like someone who has been cornered, like the only way she can elevate herself is by bringing Sontag down. She comes across as a petty bully in this video.
@PrincessWestL
@PrincessWestL 9 жыл бұрын
This is the funniest thing I've seen this morning
@edwinromandotcom
@edwinromandotcom 10 жыл бұрын
Read about Paglia's first encounter with her at Bennington College in the 1970's in "Vamps and Tramps."
@lpadron13
@lpadron13 9 жыл бұрын
Paglia remains an insanely funny, sharp and attractive woman. This clip is simply wonderful.
@JackR777
@JackR777 8 жыл бұрын
+Luis Padron Funny you should mention Paglia's level of physical attraction, considering Paglia mentioned Sontag's fading attraction. Although it should come as no surprise that Paglia attracts a superficial audience.
@debracharles-clay5202
@debracharles-clay5202 5 жыл бұрын
She doesn't remain attractive; have you seen her lately? She is not funny just arrogant. Yuk!
@ClearOutSamskaras
@ClearOutSamskaras 4 жыл бұрын
I had no idea Camille had always been so rapid fire in her speech, but I know now!
@johannagel4520
@johannagel4520 Жыл бұрын
@@JackR777 Jack the incel.
@melodraminha
@melodraminha 8 жыл бұрын
susan sontag: capricorn, taurus, cancer, virgo, scorpio, aquarius camille paglia: aries, pisces, gemini, libra, sagittarius, leo
@johns966
@johns966 4 жыл бұрын
Illgr4si LOL!
@anenga
@anenga 6 жыл бұрын
Are we not speaking English?
@tet43
@tet43 9 жыл бұрын
Just answer the damn question.
@R.Kinney1492
@R.Kinney1492 4 жыл бұрын
'It's too bad, because she was once a prophet of popular culture.' 🗝️🖋️🗡️
@threecorneredvoid
@threecorneredvoid 2 жыл бұрын
I think Paglia might have done a little mound of coke before that interview, her speed of thought and speech and her confidence are superhuman.
@furiousfennec5445
@furiousfennec5445 8 жыл бұрын
Sontag is lying you can see it in her microexpressions
@jonathankieranwriter
@jonathankieranwriter 7 жыл бұрын
COMPLETELY ... and I love the fennec, BTW.
@BigRamifications
@BigRamifications 5 жыл бұрын
....and also by her SEISMIC levels of butt hurt when the dude simply asked her to confirm a quote he came across, presumably, when he was doing research for the interview. Sontag overcooked her denial to the shithouse.
@Anna-ftf88
@Anna-ftf88 4 жыл бұрын
LOL!
@fellowcitizen
@fellowcitizen 3 жыл бұрын
Not so. Watch the interview with her - by the time she is in this interview she does know who she is as she's been given xeroxes with red encircling, but doesn't consider herself familiar, and genuinely hadn't heard of her three weeks earlier.
@niriop
@niriop 10 жыл бұрын
The smugness is choking me...
@anon4449
@anon4449 6 жыл бұрын
Choke then.
@BigRamifications
@BigRamifications 5 жыл бұрын
Smugness. Which was an epic avalanche of shade. All of it on point. You did notice that aspect too, yeah?
@spb7883
@spb7883 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry: from who, exactly?
@mzny4314
@mzny4314 4 жыл бұрын
@@spb7883 I'd say from both of them.
@spb7883
@spb7883 4 жыл бұрын
mzn y I see what you did there. 🤣 My question was in some way rhetorical, because my point is that whoever one agrees with they BOTH come across as smug. So, agreed!
@NelsonClick
@NelsonClick 4 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite period of Camille Paglia. I even feel a retrospective affection for her here because this was the person that rocked my world. Bold, fearless, brash like a medieval warrior in chain mail. Jousting her opponents to certain doom. Heartwarming. ❤
@FJTiernan
@FJTiernan 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnmulligan455 If you haven't heard of her how do you 'know' she's a plain idiot?
@FJTiernan
@FJTiernan 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnmulligan455 I hear ya John. Thanks for responding.
@Lobishomem
@Lobishomem 2 жыл бұрын
Only a very good psychiatrist could begin to make sense of both of the these “geniuses”. They deserve each other.
@zorgzarg9849
@zorgzarg9849 11 жыл бұрын
Did I actually just watch and hear all this? Did any of this actually happen? Words fail.
@cococandacraig3624
@cococandacraig3624 4 жыл бұрын
This is too good to be true! By the way Paglia wrote a brilliant text on Sontag! I love both! They both created an iridescent mind-blowing ingenious body of work (Paglia‘s an edge above Sontag in my opinion)
@blackmore4
@blackmore4 2 жыл бұрын
D'you think the white race is a "cancer" too?
@honeymoon3908
@honeymoon3908 8 жыл бұрын
this is fucking hilarious
@carolinatka95
@carolinatka95 3 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why people like Camille, to me her claims of Sontag being jealous of her are embarrassing. Younger doesn't mean better. And at the end of the day, It's not a competition, intellectuals hang out and admire each other all the time. There is a reason that Sontag avoids talking about Paglia. It's better to pretend that she doesn't know her, than saying yes i do and she is horrible.
@mycroftholmes7379
@mycroftholmes7379 3 жыл бұрын
i think Paglia was disappointed of her idol, which was Sontag, and wanted to correct her idol for her downfall...bcoz i always experience that when someone's admiring my works...xD...not to lay my arrogance, but im just making similarities
@psbfan01
@psbfan01 13 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this! More of this interview, please, if you have it. Any Paglia is great Paglia!
@mariaavalon3730
@mariaavalon3730 2 жыл бұрын
I swear Camille Paglia makes hummingbirds look like sloths!
@Paglia444
@Paglia444 11 жыл бұрын
Would love to see the whole interview.
@thedolphin5428
@thedolphin5428 4 жыл бұрын
" ... and suddenly people realised just how interesting I am!" Word perfect. However, for all her interestingness, she is still ignored and not taken seriously by the media, or academia, or mainstream feminism, or politicians, or the general public. So what is going on? Answer: She states too many truth bombs for them all. Talk after talk, Camille laments her being ignored, her small profile. She says there's a conspiracy against her. But I think it is because she is so self-transcendent (ie, doesn't give a shit about what anyone thinks of her) that her abrasive and (seemingly) arogant nature makes people attack or dismiss the messenger rather than attending to her incredibly incisive messages. Like so many commenters here below -- "Agh, she's so nasty" -- meaning, I can't be bothered to think through what she just said. Such a shame.
@palumbuscolumba4039
@palumbuscolumba4039 3 жыл бұрын
nah shes just silly lol
@adsones
@adsones Жыл бұрын
Spot on.
@deirdre108
@deirdre108 2 жыл бұрын
Whenever I listen to CP I set the playback speed to .75.
@haarrison
@haarrison 2 жыл бұрын
she’s giving me trisha paytas trying to ruin someone’s life energy
@bananabasket
@bananabasket Жыл бұрын
two trans icons
@edwardrichardson8254
@edwardrichardson8254 Жыл бұрын
I got "Sexual Personae" around '92 at a Brooklyn bookstore because my favorite professors were bringing it to class and reading excerpts and laughing at how brilliant and hilarious it was, particularly the chapters on American Late Romanticism and Emily DIckinson. For those who believe all this liquid gender nonsense is something new, I went to a dinner party for a poet on the Upper West Side mid-Nineties and got into a tête-à-tête with the guest of honor where I told her there are biological differences in the sexes and she gasped, wine glass in hand, and said, "You can't say that!" Camille Paglia was what Norman Mailer never had the balls to be in his debates with these harpies, he sheepishly shrugged when the feminists bashed him and tried to charm them with gentlemanly behavior. If they called him a born rapist he would just deflect with something like "But what about all the men raped in prison." Paglia just whipped it out and said "If civilization had been left in female hands, we would all be living in grass huts" and their only response was to try and pretend her away out of fear, they wanted no part of her, she would've knocked them out in mass media.
@mravawishes
@mravawishes Жыл бұрын
bravo, greatly put together and so true on mailer's vs. paglia's style
@titomala-madre
@titomala-madre Жыл бұрын
LOL. Publi. Intellectuals are just spectacles. They are to academi what pro wrestling is to catch wrestling.
@Wargoat6
@Wargoat6 10 жыл бұрын
Oooh they both sound pissed.
@bigmuffin99
@bigmuffin99 4 жыл бұрын
'I am the Sontag of the 90's' ? Its almost 2020, where is Camille Paglia?
@cococandacraig3624
@cococandacraig3624 4 жыл бұрын
Stephen Mack she has two new major books out, where have you been!
@MrWhiskeycricket
@MrWhiskeycricket 3 жыл бұрын
her clips are super popular on KZfaq, her speaking engagements are always packed and she spits a book out every few years.
@bigmuffin99
@bigmuffin99 3 жыл бұрын
@@cococandacraig3624 Thank you for your comment. I didn't see your comment till today Nov. 3, 2020. Paglia and Sontag share a kind of pernicious arrogance, about their self-attributed positions of 'dominance' in the arena of Cultural/Literary Politics. This recalls the jousting of American male writers of another generation, call it an exhausted stance for anyone to take, in the here and now! Or are the ego's of writers, who have gained success, subject to the same need, to cast themselves as arbiters of what is and isn't relevant, in their quest for a dominance no one can possess? A quote from Paglia's Wikipedia page entry is revelatory: ' Michiko Kakutani, also writing for The New York Times, wrote: "Her writings on education ... are highly persuasive, just as some of her essays on the perils of regulating pornography and the puritanical excesses of the women's movement radiate a fierce common sense ... Unfortunately, Ms. Paglia has a way of undermining her more interesting arguments with flip, hyperbolic declarations" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camille_Paglia Regards, StephenKMackSD
@bigmuffin99
@bigmuffin99 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrWhiskeycricket Sorry I missed your comment. See my comment @Coco Candacraig. Thank you for your comment. Sorry for the delay! Regards, StephenKMackSD
@AlongtheFarClimbDown843
@AlongtheFarClimbDown843 11 жыл бұрын
[“I think you should be ashamed to die if you haven't sort of done something for other people.” - Susan Sontag (born Susan Rosenblatt), 1933-2004]
@toby070
@toby070 8 жыл бұрын
Man, if you looked at the face and hear the voice of Sontag first, and then look at Camille Paglia, it is no wonder she 'does not know her'.
@sandygrungerson1177
@sandygrungerson1177 10 жыл бұрын
i would go lesbian for camille, and there are serious logistical problems in my way, like i'm a guy...she is just so awesome
@mininovaband
@mininovaband 9 жыл бұрын
How many of us are as confident as her to give that self satisfied look at the end? Good for her.
@MaeNotEast
@MaeNotEast 9 жыл бұрын
***** There's confidence and then there's conceit. But Paglia takes it a step (or two) further right into obnoxious. p.s. Bipolar mania can look like great confidence and the belief that one is capable of accomplishing anything. Until the mania goes away. Then life really sux.
@JackR777
@JackR777 8 жыл бұрын
+Martha Raymond There's confidence and then there's delusions of grandeur. She has just waged war on a video clip of Susan Sontag. Not a living person. A video clip. Bravo, Camille Paglia! You just won a one-sided argument!! Standing ovation!!! You've earned that self satisfied look!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@SoundsSilver
@SoundsSilver Жыл бұрын
Camille Paglia claims to have had a hard time finding lovers in her youth but watching her here I cannot understand why. She's amazing
@SoundsSilver
@SoundsSilver Жыл бұрын
@calendarphotoscamera1 Canuck Lmao imagine writing all of that on youtube and telling someone else to get a life
@mravawishes
@mravawishes Жыл бұрын
where'd you find that quote?
@DeepScreenAnalysis
@DeepScreenAnalysis 11 ай бұрын
Probably because you’d never have a chance to speak if you were dating her 😂😂
@alicecowens3999
@alicecowens3999 2 жыл бұрын
top 10 favorite interview clips, easily
@cda345
@cda345 11 жыл бұрын
In another interview she is asked about her lack of humbleness and graciousness and she said that it was a part of her personae and to try and distinct herself from the establishment from which she was fighting against. I for one love it finding it extremely effective and as she's gotten older she has cooled a little bit.
@mfloyd1556
@mfloyd1556 7 жыл бұрын
omg, camille was so hot!
@okyouknowwhatever
@okyouknowwhatever 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@regalsmartie11
@regalsmartie11 4 жыл бұрын
I know.... Ahhhh. Im in love. Just discovered her. Im in my 20s so forgive me :)
@blotfd
@blotfd 8 жыл бұрын
Paglia's still relevant.
@NICC234
@NICC234 12 жыл бұрын
"I am the Sontag of the 90's"....I alway thought Sontag was the Sontag of the 90's...
@ViktoriaLove93
@ViktoriaLove93 4 жыл бұрын
Same.
@TheMorganVEVO
@TheMorganVEVO 6 жыл бұрын
I love Camille so much. 😂
@johnandert3521
@johnandert3521 6 жыл бұрын
I like Paglia's contrarian rants - even as I often disagree with her. I think it's good to stir the pot. But, 20 years later, I still think Sontag still has the higher profile.
@MrWhiskeycricket
@MrWhiskeycricket 3 жыл бұрын
nope.
@noreexic
@noreexic 8 жыл бұрын
To be honest, Paglia although massive in the 90s, has for one reason or another lost much of her influence and media presence today.
@noreexic
@noreexic 8 жыл бұрын
***** Oh come on let's be honest, she has always been hungary to be relevant and in always claims that her detractors have faded away while she is still here in the public when actually she's not that visible at all
@subversiveuntermensch3866
@subversiveuntermensch3866 8 жыл бұрын
Because she hasn't written anything major since Sexual Personae. That book is still relevant as ever though, and she still pops up frequently to criticize Tumblr Feminism.
@noreexic
@noreexic 8 жыл бұрын
Subversive Untermensch Well to be fair what was meant to be her second book has been dispersed in numerous articles since then so it's not like she hasn't been out there in the public giviing her views
@Riefenstahl7
@Riefenstahl7 11 жыл бұрын
If Paglia thinks herself really like much more brilliant than Sontag, she doesn't need to be this upset. She sounds almost losing her temper, on the contrary, Sontag still has her manner. That's Sontag's old European manner.
@NameRequiredSoHere
@NameRequiredSoHere Жыл бұрын
This is like the Bette Davis / Joan Crawford feud. LOL Turn it into a Netflix series!
@AntonSlavik
@AntonSlavik 9 жыл бұрын
This woman is amazing. I'll believe Feminism can deliver it's promises when I start seeing more women as strong, brash, artistic, and humourous as Paglia.
@jamestyler7697
@jamestyler7697 7 жыл бұрын
So that's where Mariah Carey got the idea to diss J-Lo -- jk lmao
@leojanuszewski1019
@leojanuszewski1019 2 жыл бұрын
Sontag does NOT come off well here.
@MelodyKia
@MelodyKia 6 жыл бұрын
I worship this woman!!! You go girl!
@roxanaspitaleri6033
@roxanaspitaleri6033 2 ай бұрын
I just discovered Susan Sontag. I doubt Sontag will be ever gone.....
@NelsonClick
@NelsonClick 12 жыл бұрын
Camille is absolutely right about her impact, her place in the panorama of literary figures, her reflection of the era in which she lived, etc, all that. It's all true. My main concern is who will be the ones who will replace her? I can't see anyone with the breadth of knowledge and awareness and sheer brute force to surpass her. Who is going to be strong enough to point out weaknesses and flaws in her ideas? I'm scared to death that it will be nobody.
@florencehenderson3707
@florencehenderson3707 11 ай бұрын
I don't blame you. I have to say that a woman like Paglia does not come around very often, that's for sure.
@otinanaiomws
@otinanaiomws 8 жыл бұрын
Camille Paglia has got to be one of the most annoying people on the planet. She's more famous for arguing against other theorists than for her own work. And come on, she hates the French because she can't understand them. Oh, and that was one too many homophobic hints against Foucault coming from a feminist. She was not the Sontag of the 90s, or the Sontag of ever. Her arguments against other theorists are merely oversimplifications of their work. She's good at verbal ranting, like she does in the video, and in written ranting, but afraid of thought. So, let's dismiss Sontag, and let's dismiss Butler, who she has also not-so-gracefully dissed, and all hail Camille Paglia, the go-to authority for juvenile arguing. p.s.- I love you Susan p.s. 2- Camille, you're just mad because you 'can't sit with her'!
@kennethj.williams9263
@kennethj.williams9263 5 жыл бұрын
KZfaq needs a heart react icon.
@azngoku666
@azngoku666 10 жыл бұрын
did i just watch somebody stutter out a wrestling promo?
@jontattum1476
@jontattum1476 10 жыл бұрын
fucking hilarious
@svetlana60656
@svetlana60656 5 жыл бұрын
To BE the woman, you've got to BEAT the woman (figuratively speaking) ... and Susan hasn't done that! WHOOOOOOOOOO! ;-)
@drahtseilakt
@drahtseilakt 11 жыл бұрын
Camille Paglia is really annoying. I would be so ashamed of myself to utter even one of the many ridiculously boasting things that she said in this interview and elsewhere. I often get the feeling that she can only sustain her big flashy self when she's on the attack against everything and everyone. I prefer Sontag.
@cateellington4081
@cateellington4081 8 жыл бұрын
What Paglia doesn't realize is that she is no Susan Sontag. Paglia has a lot of nerve to call Sontag snooty.
@claudegray2759
@claudegray2759 6 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised that Sontag hasn't heard of Pagli nor cares who she is. Paglia can't even say anything intelligent her she just reverts to some personal attack. Well anyone can do that. She calls herself the Sontag of the 90's, but she's just a wannabe pseudo-intellectual. See, easy.
@rubestuh
@rubestuh 9 жыл бұрын
Paglia is terribly bright, a good writer, and knows which way the winds blow. And she probably came as close as anyone to supplanting Sontag -- but she still missed by a mile.
@marclayne9261
@marclayne9261 3 жыл бұрын
'Sexual Personae' 1990...Camille Paglia....one of best books i have read...
@juliaorpheus
@juliaorpheus 11 жыл бұрын
Well said, sir.
@brandontaylor3568
@brandontaylor3568 10 жыл бұрын
Man, Paglia is so pressed.
@johnweir1217
@johnweir1217 8 жыл бұрын
"Damning with faint praise..."
@Hamletmachin
@Hamletmachin 8 жыл бұрын
Does anyone remember the name of the guy interviewing Puglia? He was really good.
@Hamletmachin
@Hamletmachin 8 жыл бұрын
+Joel Sena Thank you, Joel.
@kylewhitehead1684
@kylewhitehead1684 7 жыл бұрын
She doesn't watch TV and she's not into rock? How is that a valid criticism? Is it valid to denounce someone in this generation for not surfing KZfaq and not listening to Taylor swift? That was just a ridiculous and catty thing to say.
@yaggayaggaya9918
@yaggayaggaya9918 7 жыл бұрын
Kyle Whitehead I think her criticism is that Sontag has distanced herself from everyday people and what is relevant to them while still claiming to be relevant and to be a voice of the people. Honestly, as much as I admire Paglia for her ideas, she also sounds very self righteous here and catty, especially at the end, and had this been my first encounter with her I fear I may not have ventured further.
@DrJ824
@DrJ824 7 жыл бұрын
if you don't use the internet in 2017 then yes you are very out of touch
@tribudeuno
@tribudeuno Жыл бұрын
“Fame is the destroyer of virtue”… Zhuangzi (Alan Watts said that virtue in this context is like referring to the healing virtue of a plant)
@lamentate07
@lamentate07 11 жыл бұрын
Sontag has far better taste in art and film than Camille imo. She was a champion of great directors like Sokurov and Tarr before it was even 'fashionable' to like them.
@MrWhiskeycricket
@MrWhiskeycricket Жыл бұрын
Her girlfriend was Annie Lebowitz, one of the biggest hack photographers of all time - and an artistic theif. Sontag's taste wasn't so great.
@DeepScreenAnalysis
@DeepScreenAnalysis 11 ай бұрын
Sontag’s taste was highbrow, which is the realm of the intellectual elites. Paglia was more keyed into art which had an impact on the popular consciousness.
@lamentate07
@lamentate07 11 ай бұрын
@@DeepScreenAnalysis I prefer Paglia more as a personality.
@dn8015
@dn8015 2 ай бұрын
Ridiculous statement
@charlesclark7350
@charlesclark7350 2 жыл бұрын
i LOVE CAMILLE WHEN TALKING ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS SHE SAID MEN YOU NEED TO GET IT UP AND WOMEN YOU NEED TO DEAL WITH IT. I STOOD UP AND CHEERED. THAT WAS YEARS AGO
@trwashere5906
@trwashere5906 5 жыл бұрын
What a snot Sontag really was comes through here.
@Lucas-pe6fg
@Lucas-pe6fg 4 жыл бұрын
there are photographs of them together
@Rhopoe
@Rhopoe 12 жыл бұрын
@Buirgenstock In my opinion, Paglia's reputation rests on "Sexual Personae" (quite a book!) & "Break, Blow, Burn", & then there are those fantastic essays on Arion. True, she may be riding in the coattails of her magnus opus of 20 years ago, & which may have contributed to the cultural advancement from then to now. To understand Paglia is not merely to read her books, but to give a proper reading of her own public & television appearances...
@TytonidaeBingo
@TytonidaeBingo 8 жыл бұрын
I find it really funny that the majority of the people that criticize Paglia using emotional arguments (like "she's so conceited" or "she's such a bitch") as opposed to rational disagreement (like factual opposition to something she says) are predominately women. Such a cliche response--and it feeds into this idea that women are irrational, over-emotional, and threatened by strong personalities in other women. sigh...
@TMSreptiles
@TMSreptiles 8 жыл бұрын
In every Camille Paglia interview with open phone lines, this has proven to be true. Stereotypes very clearly are not baseless, whether they pertain to race, culture, or, in this case, gender.
@cateellington4081
@cateellington4081 8 жыл бұрын
Is that what you've read? The problem w/ Camille Paglia is that there's so MUCH one can point to regarding rational disagreement . And Paglia often reduces her arguments to personal attacks to get attention. Calling Sontag disingenuous and an egomaniac becs Sontag had never heard of Paglia is reducing the argument to one of emotional argument. Paglias take for instance on the murder of Nicole Brown Simpson. Becs Paglia is an admitted 'football fan' (her little aside when discussing the OJ case) she says feminism "oversimplifies" battered women's syndrome. Uh huh. She says in Nicole's case it was her partially HER fault she was brutally slaughtered becs she was 'in lust w/ the fame & money'. Talk about oversimplification. Yet she has unmitigated gall to say that feminism 'oversimplifies BWS'. Fraud and simply using outrageous statements to get attention. I'm not saying I disagree whole cloth with EVERYthing Paglia says- but IMO - when she says s/t accurate it's just commonSens
@TytonidaeBingo
@TytonidaeBingo 8 жыл бұрын
I know the interview you are referring to and she never said Simpson was her own fault. She merely tried to shed light on the attraction women have to abusive men and also point out the need for women to take personal responsibility for actions which place them in danger (i.e. remaining with an abusive/insane spouse).
@andrewrodgers176
@andrewrodgers176 8 жыл бұрын
paglia is a goddess
@MinamuTV
@MinamuTV 8 жыл бұрын
I do not dislike Paglia, though one wonders what could have made her the "Susan Sontag of the 90s" given that Paglia's most influential book of that decade was roundly attacked and condemned by feminist critics.
@subversiveuntermensch3866
@subversiveuntermensch3866 8 жыл бұрын
+MinamuTV That's the point. Sontag began as a famous dissident. Paglia was a famous dissident of the 90s and continues to be one today along with people like Milo Yiannopoulos.
@TytonidaeBingo
@TytonidaeBingo 8 жыл бұрын
Being lauded by your peers is often the marker of writing that will not remain relevant after a decade or so. Paglia's work is timeless and only grows in significance as time passes.
@MinamuTV
@MinamuTV 8 жыл бұрын
Rose Red I hope that my comment didn't leave the impression that I am a critic of Paglia's work, or unaware of the relationship between brilliance and one's being initially misunderstood. Paglia is one of the intellectuals I most follow, and she has been right about many things. My intended argument was simply that Sontag arguably never wrote anything quite as divisive as _Sexual Personae_.
@jonathankieranwriter
@jonathankieranwriter 7 жыл бұрын
Yes. Because she handed those "feminist critics" their asses in a paper sack and showed them to the door.
@briankelleywastaken
@briankelleywastaken 3 жыл бұрын
@@subversiveuntermensch3866 Being in the company of Milo is not the compliment you think it is
@goldenrulesy8822
@goldenrulesy8822 9 жыл бұрын
@morganblackwood People who talk that quickly are super smart, which has no bearing on whether one finds them annoying. I just try to keep up! There's a difference between self-obsessed and unapologetic about one's accomplishments and abilities. Paglia's self confidence isn't what's lacking in feminism (though try to get a feminist to debate you for an audience), but what makes her a...for lack of a better word..."righteous" or "right on" feminist, is her ability to be evidence-based in her thinking and conclusions, her non-ideological approach, her honesty, and the courage to put herself out there like she does. It's easy to be the kind of feminist who plays victim and hates men; it takes no courage at all. Those folks get all sorts of support, affirmation, media attention, and even laughter at men's expense. But when you're speaking up against that type of feminist, or merely speaking out in support of men's issues, you're more likely to get silenced, at best (even as the Right to Free Speech is forgotten). It will change if we continue to take the Camille Paglias of the world more seriously. It's already happening, and the feminists in charge of academe know it, which is why they keep moving the field goal to "but men are all rapists!" and why they're making it a hostile environment for men, a tactic which isn't only being used in colleges and universities, but in society proper. Have you watched a sitcom or commercial lately? The way women are portrayed vs. the way men are portrayed.... They're vehicles for ideological teaching, and misandry is the major field of study. We enjoy our world at the expense of men. Last time (and every single time) I looked, everything I see has been built by men with families, for the benefit of their families, and for the benefit of every single woman I see. As well as for me, and I am so grateful to them. I even tell them sometimes, like utilities workers and garbage men; they're always shocked and very happy to hear it. Why doesn't Hallmark make cards for them? Instead, they make cards absolutely denigrating men, the way the Nazis spoke about Jews. And make a killing doing it, too. Which speaks volumes. The very men who make our world worth living are the men who get the most hate. Talk about ungrateful. Men try so hard to please, especially women, and they do such a mind-boggling amount for everyone's benefit. Usually with a sense of humor, too. I could never marginalize men, as a group, nor hate them. What type of person would even do that? A lot of 'em, that's who! Women and men who were of age during the advent of third wave feminism (like Paglia or Warren Farrell), aren't going to be around forever. They're late 60s/early 70s in age. Going back as far as they do, and the vast amount of knowledge and experience they possess, gives them a level of credibility, knowledge, and advice we're not likely to see again, if not for a while, than for our entire life times. We need to get to know them now, instead of later. Seems most people are easily seduced by some sort of ideology (including, of course cultural feminism), while others of us have a knack for naturally avoiding them. Ideology is a very terrible thing. I dig how it really doesn't seem to tempt Paglia. (I've seen several videos of her speaking.) I just bought "Sexual Personae" and will read it when I'm done with my fifth Warren Farrell book. Looking forward to it.
@mikelnomikos
@mikelnomikos 3 жыл бұрын
Paglia is adorably narcissistic.
@charleswatson7488
@charleswatson7488 Ай бұрын
Great that Camille understands the importance of popular culture
@eskimo1956
@eskimo1956 8 жыл бұрын
I love Camille. She was great then and remains so. She had Sontag to a T. "From Avant-garde in the 1970's to toast of the bourgosie of the 90's" is perfect. Confirmation of Sontag's decline was her propping-up of other failed feminist writers like Naomi Wolf.
@ravenscreekpictures9603
@ravenscreekpictures9603 8 жыл бұрын
+C.R Jones Agree but no doubt Sontag was excellent in her day as well. I think they both have added a lot of value throughout the years. The rift between them seems like the female version of Buckley & Hitchens both at times could be brilliant even if I wouldn't always agree
@13e11even11
@13e11even11 3 жыл бұрын
I am not surprised about what Sontag does not know.
@mattmacneil3424
@mattmacneil3424 5 жыл бұрын
Sontag at 0:34 gives me anxiety lol
@tyleranyways
@tyleranyways 6 ай бұрын
I don't know who any of these women are and I don't watch reality tv but this is better than that!
@juliafrancis3655
@juliafrancis3655 11 жыл бұрын
I would agree that Greer lost the plot, her recent comments about former Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard's - ( first female Australian Prime Minister ) - bum being "big", really shattered her importance for me, in fact i thought she was a complete fool when i saw the interview in which she made the comment. Susan Sontag is deliberately serious, if you read her work, her diary entries, you can see she has a sense of humor. Just not an overly indulgent or attention seeking one.
@cannibalholocaust3015
@cannibalholocaust3015 3 жыл бұрын
Non intellectual cis man here. The first time I came across Sontag was in Nassim Talebs book “Skin in the Game”. Go look up what he said about her, it’s very telling about who Sontag was.
@philip-johnkmauro3875
@philip-johnkmauro3875 6 жыл бұрын
Camille is definitely a sage.
@greywinters4801
@greywinters4801 7 жыл бұрын
Sontag, so bitter, why ? I thought Paglia was tagged the unhappy one.
@florencehenderson3707
@florencehenderson3707 11 ай бұрын
"she doesn't listen to rock... she has been passed..." LOL.. Sontag does come off as snobbish and in denial of Paglia's presence...
@jonathankieranwriter
@jonathankieranwriter 3 жыл бұрын
Sontag ... at a pathetic point and obviously lying. She was very good, at the start, but that point in time she had become a self-parody.
@badleroybrown8
@badleroybrown8 12 жыл бұрын
Camille is always interesting and enlightening even though she pisses me off and I disagree with her often (her more recent Salon articles have been particularly disappointing). Kids of today must read her work and form their own opinions. This posturing "who the hell is Paglia" crap only reveals your own insular awareness. She knocked the feminist and cultural establishment on its ass!!!
@MuscleJacker
@MuscleJacker 7 жыл бұрын
The greatest feminist of the past thirty years is Camille Paglia.
@bananabasket
@bananabasket 4 жыл бұрын
The claws came out.
@stephendise7946
@stephendise7946 3 жыл бұрын
Sontag is bitter. And it shows.
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