Suzuki Shootout! Stock VS Mod - Motocross Action Magazine

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Motocross Action had the unique opportunity to test Dilan Schwartz's Bar X Suzuki RMZ250 at State Fair MX last year. We also brought out our bone stock RMZ250 to compare the bikes. Is a Pro bike good for everyone? How much faster could you be on a bike with mods? We did a lap time comparison to really get hard data on which bike our editor Josh Mosiman would be faster on. You are going to be surprised by the results! Yes the Suzuki has grown long in the tooth when compared to the tech that is being dumped into other brands. Does that make it a horrible bike to race? We can shed some light on that subject for you in this video as well. If you have ever considered buying a Suzuki or wondered if you could be competitive on one...this is the video for you to check out!
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@xammendoza667 Жыл бұрын

Team yellow throughout the 2022 season is a very rare sight in the races. Hope they'll comeback on 2023. More colors, the better.

@333studios. Жыл бұрын

If Ken jumps on the RM we will see it a whole lot more. Im looking forward to it

@Kawiboy Жыл бұрын

We need Suzuki back as a contender .. It only helps the industry and those bikes r solid if nothing else.. Thnx MXA/Josh 👊😉

@linusnilsson2734 Жыл бұрын

Suzuki easily the sexiest bikes, wish they could update them and bring some Enduro and 2-strokes to the table..

@salubobryan1032 Жыл бұрын

I hope this brand will dominate again

@jonballen1550 Жыл бұрын

all they need is Kenny and electric start!

@jonballen1550 Жыл бұрын

@Duke Bonde Tomac would finish top 5 on a suzuki . No question. Suzuki just can’t afford an elite rider

@moosemilk8956 Жыл бұрын

@Duke Bonde the bike is not that far behind.

@jasonweatherford5710 Жыл бұрын

@Duke Bonde geez we've never heard that before. 🐑

@moosemilk8956 Жыл бұрын

@Duke Bonde let me guess you haven’t ridden a Suzuki in ten years.

@markallen6818 Жыл бұрын

I grew up riding and racing Suzuki RM's back in the late 70's and early 80's when Suzuki was kicking ass both Nationals and local tracks.

@nuthintoprove Жыл бұрын

I was cured back in 84 when you raved about the KX 125 and how slow the RM 125 was. I had them both, you felt fast on the kx but the RM was 2 seconds a lap faster on any track. Big difference between "Feel VS real." I could never figure out why the stop watch doesn't determine the winner in a shoot out when you are selling race bikes. It should be Warm and Fuzzy Action.

@vwgtdturbo Жыл бұрын

i ride same lap times on easy hard pack track betwenn rm 125 vs rm 250

@pilsnerfamilymotorsports3275 Жыл бұрын

Id love to see a mildly modded suzuki go up against the shootout winner in 2023, would be a cool comparison

@robertrishel3685 Жыл бұрын

Mosiman was designed from the boots up to do these videos for MXA! Just terrific, every time👍

@Davido50 Жыл бұрын

Would happily buy & race (local level) a '23 RMZ250 but they are sold out like every other 250F near me! 2 local dealers have some '23 KX & CRFs coming in. No YZ250Fs or RMZ250s! All at MSRP too.

@metalofthedeath Жыл бұрын

All they have to do is make two strokes again

@Davido50 Жыл бұрын

Never happen. Get a new 4-stroke an love it. Electric bikes next!

@dougfalstad5227 Жыл бұрын

A 300 two stroke would be awesome!

@metalofthedeath Жыл бұрын

They could literally just put the old two stroke engine in the new four stroke chassis and everyone would love it.

@YZ_Will Жыл бұрын

Suzuki still makes 2 stroke RM85's

@andy5786 Жыл бұрын

Brilliant Josh thanks I like Suzuki RM 250 I do really like see them back raceing in competition again great videos tests 👍💯🇬🇧

@dustin9035 Жыл бұрын

Still the best looking bikes

@rgregleet2253 Жыл бұрын

All Suzuki needs is someone to pay a top rider to win again!!

@Runk3lsmcdougal Жыл бұрын

They wouldnt take the offer tho

@taylormuto8907 Жыл бұрын

@Duke Bonde that dinosaur beat factory bikes at a lot of races this year 😂😂

@roadlesstraveled2249 Жыл бұрын

Suzuki is the original top dawn of dirt bikes.. they don't care.. they have many championships under there belt

@realone2321 Жыл бұрын

Get behind the line old timer the future is now!!

@baykkarl9541 Жыл бұрын

I still love suzuki and will ride all day!. Love from a Honda fan

@mxriderdakar Жыл бұрын

So my guessing: ECU, engine porting, suspension, clutch, gear box, pipe, the rest is rider triangle and preferences like bar, levers etc.

@jamieargent7139 Жыл бұрын

Suspension is a must as any bike did mine and love it love a kick start therw.on a Lottworx headlight and I'm set

@aivorebane3050 Жыл бұрын

Simple. Better 39,3HP in use, than 44 in paper.

@michellatour150 Жыл бұрын

Please list what was done to the stock RMZ250 forks, valving wise (which circuits, how many shims), spring rates etc. Thanks.

@HPRaceDevelopment Жыл бұрын

they are same kyb as a yamaha with double the valving If you valve the mid valve for .15mm float and remove some base valve shims? its quite nice.

@aivorebane3050 Жыл бұрын

springs. Thats all. Just correct rate springs and enjoy.

@PotatoeJoe69 2 ай бұрын

A pipe and tune makes all the difference for the Suzuki 250's. Stock, they're kinda gutless and boggy down low. They are only really in the power at the upper end of their RPM range. A pipe + tune broadens the power band MASSIVELY. It takes it from feeling like the power band on a 150, to where it should be as a 250.

@straighttimestirrups Жыл бұрын

When was this filmed? State Fair has been closed for months!

@last_name3143 Жыл бұрын

I love Suzuki

@massy7956 Жыл бұрын

So am I.

@jessetrauma556 Жыл бұрын

I thought state fair mx track closed down a couple months ago

@sephjfox Жыл бұрын

I've had every major brand of dirtbike and my suzuki handles the best ❤

@jeffwixon1828 Жыл бұрын

How’s the stock bike for trail riding and just off-road for an old guy?

@bradpowell843 Жыл бұрын

They are pretty good but a 300 two stroke would serve you better for that application.

@steviedee71 Жыл бұрын

@@bradpowell843 what Suzuki should be offering 125, 250, 300, 2-stroke, e-start shave little bit of wight off and kick ass again on track and in sales market and terms of offering different models.

@_WatsoBrii94_ Жыл бұрын

Well 2023 models come with full exhaust so that’s a plus but like everyone else said get a top 10 rider pay em good and watch what happens to banana crew!! Being a rm250 owner I dream the day they bring back big bore suk smokers shit they could for sure keep up with every other color smoker. Hop into enduro which has already been done by Austin teyler . Still the best handling and best bottom end 2 stroke ever. Only thing rms needed was better brakes. Roczen team banana 2023🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔👌🏾

@appleSUX1 Жыл бұрын

Suzuki is a great bike, all Suzuki company has to do, put the bike on a diet and lose few pounds, increase HP/Torque,... That's it. Bike has very good handling, suspension, plastics, great price compared to other brands..... Just my thoughts on that.

@delzotto777 Жыл бұрын

more suzuk upgrade videos!!!

@hencetirta322 Жыл бұрын

I see yellow I click

@Desertrider47 Жыл бұрын

Put JS7 on that bike and all these people will shut up!

@Desertrider47 Жыл бұрын

@Duke Bonde that bike for sure aint but a fast rider can.

@vidz1438 Жыл бұрын

Bro just dissed Dylan the whole video

@docstomp5524 Жыл бұрын

It seems like a good deal until you figure in the amount you would have to put into it. I think the ecu can’t be flashed either so if you want a remap you need a after market ecu

@nestserau Жыл бұрын

It’s actually tuneable via an app, same as Yamaha.

@hammtweezy2192 Жыл бұрын

If Roczen goes to HEP Progressive Suzuki I'd expect a significant refresh for the 2024 model. I'd expect Suzuki to invest more into moto as the company attempts to bounce back.

@Owen-dw5hj Жыл бұрын

You’re responsible in part for some of Suzuki’s poor sales. When you talk about how terrible the bike is year after year I don’t know what you expect. Take it and post a lap time comparison against some of the others. Go run it with the Honda.

@MichaelAMyers1957 Жыл бұрын

All the "" shootout "" videos, are a big part in the poor sales. Far too People take those videos seriously when they're either paid for videos, or biased as it gets. People see who wins a shootout video, and then say every other bike is a Piecs of shit. Blows my mind. But it shows how ignorant actually are. 99% of folks who talk shit on Suzuki, never even rode one before.

@MichaelAMyers1957 Жыл бұрын

There was a guy who comment on a different video of 2023 Suzuki, he tried to say that a factory Suzuki, is not as good as a stock yamaha LOL.

@Owen-dw5hj Жыл бұрын

@@MichaelAMyers1957 I think I actually responded to that it was so stupid it caught my attention. Also the Suzuki is not the heaviest either.

@herbcanter2114 Жыл бұрын

@@MichaelAMyers1957 Yamaha is vastly superior .

@3rdlineplug Жыл бұрын

Just playing devils advocate, but I don’t think they’re necessarily saying it’s terrible. They are just constantly talking about how other brands have been innovating and making big changes while Suzuki has not been pushing the envelope. Neither 450/250 has changed since 2019 and MXA is a magazine that will point out flaws. The Suzuki is not a bad bike, but when you compare it to other brands, it is lacking in many areas compared to other brands. If Suzuki keeps the bike this way, they should sell it for msrp $5,500-$6,000. You’ll have an abundance of parts available and allow people like me to get back into the sport easier as a weekend warrior just going out to ride. I’ve seen some dealers running them that low and I’d be all over it to go ride again.

@driftmax5180 Жыл бұрын

Best mx bikess😍

@straighttimestirrups Жыл бұрын

Suzuki needs to get their shit together and concentrate on getting back to the pinnacle of 2 Stroke Technology! Keep their 4-Pukes cheap and entry level, but develop some bad ass Smokers! They would sell everyone they could build! Develop a modern 150, 250-300/ and Open bike!

@johnfryman4428 Жыл бұрын

Riding a RM450 is like dating an ugly chick.. You see the potential, so ya keep Banging away !

@tylerparker3024 Жыл бұрын

Obviously if you aren't a pro rider the bike won't make a difference on your lap time..

@medjoolmaker Жыл бұрын

I thought suzuki went out of business...

@genefuzer4287 3 ай бұрын

Oh how we’ve come a long way. Moaning about great brakes and more than ample braking power in the grand scheme of things 😂 just not phenomenal stop on a dime brakes. I think people quickly forget how far bikes have come to moan about so many things. Not just this video but they all seem to do it. Never enough no matter how good things get 🙄