Suzuki SX4: EVAP System Trouble

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South Main Auto LLC

South Main Auto LLC

Жыл бұрын

In this video I have a look at a guys 2009 Suzuki SX4 with the engine light on with EVAP leak codes. The problem with these Suzuki's can be getting parts for them. That is exactly what we run into...
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@SouthMainAuto
@SouthMainAuto Жыл бұрын
Now, before all the armchair experts chime in stating that they have found the filler neck on eBay or I love my Suzuki dot com please understand this from a business owners point of view. I called my local Suzuki dealer with the VIN and checked on availability of the filler neck. Per the VIN the part number has been discontinued. I then took that part number and did the same Google search that you just did and it did not reveal any thing. Even on eBay. Did eBay show a filler neck for an SX4? You bet they did. Did any of the numbers match mine? No, they didn't. Can I as a business owner get wrapped up buying parts from the web, hoping they might fit then end up with hundreds of dollars in parts and shipping fees trying to return the parts that don't fit? The short answer is no, I can't. I know this is a hard pill for some DIY'ers to swallow but I have been doing this for 25 years as a shop owner and it is a road I don't like to travel. If I was a DIY'er and this was my own car and I had the time to waste ordering parts from across the pond, paying the shipping, scouring southern salvage yards and taking my old filler neck in and out a dozen times to see if I got the right one it would be a different story. I hope this makes sense why I handle things the way I do. As cliché as this sounds, this is how the cookie crumbles at times. I wish I had endless time to spend helping each person but at the end of the day I have bills to pay and mouths to feed so I need to keep movin' on. Cheers, -Eric O.
@thedogbarber
@thedogbarber Жыл бұрын
We get it buddy. I would have done the same. You're quite right.
@ozzykrahn806
@ozzykrahn806 Жыл бұрын
i agree 100%
@armpitdew
@armpitdew Жыл бұрын
I don't know Suzukis outside of they aren't sold in the US anymore but was curious about the "obsolete" part numbers. Like BMW will have original part numbers for when the car was initially made and then will have superceded PNs for "same thing" but new batch or something. I guess with their move out of the US market they don't really have something like that?
@billupstateny9151
@billupstateny9151 Жыл бұрын
I would take exception to one small point of your rant. The "mouths to feed" duties appears to be fulfilled by Venessa O. Buying ice cream does not count . BTW, the Venesska moniker coined by your father is both harmless & humorous even though it clearly annoyed her. No one appreciates name manipulation but your Dad wasn't being mean or spiteful.
@dougbourdo2589
@dougbourdo2589 Жыл бұрын
Amen Brother. And, Not being a Jerk at all. Common sense economic business decision. This is an example of the long term effects of dealing with lesser stable products in the marketplace. Carry on smartly.
@thedogbarber
@thedogbarber Жыл бұрын
Nah. We don't think you're a jerk for that buddy. We think you're a jerk for being such an awesome mechanic and making the rest of us look like we're sittting still. lol
@billupstateny9151
@billupstateny9151 Жыл бұрын
It is not difficult for Eric to demonstrate the inadequacies of other shops.
@jeffjankiewicz5100
@jeffjankiewicz5100 Жыл бұрын
🎯🤣🤣
@markh.6687
@markh.6687 Жыл бұрын
Wait, hold up. I AM sitting still! 😁
@redtobertshateshandles
@redtobertshateshandles Жыл бұрын
For my old Suzuki 4x4 back in the day there were 4 or 5 different fuel pumps, which varied slightly. The 2nd one I got was wrong, but I modified it to fit. Arrhh.
@JohnnyTalia
@JohnnyTalia Жыл бұрын
My son has an '08 SX4 that he bought new and refuses to part with. It has many of the same issues, as well as a couple of the wires to the leak detection pump being broken off at the connector. However, since we live in a state with no inspections or emissions testing, he's free to keep riding it around with the engine light on until the wheels fold up under it and it bellyflops to the ground. Meanwhile, I try to avoid working on the damned thing.
@johno9163
@johno9163 Жыл бұрын
I could not agree more. My son had 2 Javelins that he thought were great and to this day I have nightmares about the time and labour I spent working on those houses of horror.
@terrycostakis6284
@terrycostakis6284 Жыл бұрын
I lived in the rust belt for fifty years before moving to the south about fifteen years ago. I never realized the toll that the chemicals used to keep roads clear take on a car. The difference between the underside on the cars that Eric services and those that Rainman Ray services in Florida is stark.
@bjkjoseph
@bjkjoseph Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I noticed the same thing it’s crazy
@MattExzy
@MattExzy Жыл бұрын
Being from another country entirely where the roads (to my knowledge) never get salted since it's usually hot and dry, watching these has definitely been an eye opener. 'From the bottom of the ocean' comes to mind. Brutal.
@litz13
@litz13 Жыл бұрын
I needed to change the shocks on my 97 Jeep Cherokee. There are videos all over the web of people having issues with rusted shock mount bolts on the rear shocks. I was prepared for the worst. ZIP! came right out, no issues at all. Ran into the same thing removing the original trailer hitch to replace with a 2" receiver model. 22+ year old bolts, unscrewed with no issues. That's what living in Georgia your whole life (and owning the Jeep since it was new) does for you.
@kapekodbob
@kapekodbob Жыл бұрын
I remember my first visit to San Fran. Colud not believe how old some of the cars were and no rot.
@watsisbuttndo829
@watsisbuttndo829 Жыл бұрын
I know Australia is opposite land for most people but here all the soft stuff falls to bits but the metal remains, its not as bad as it used to be but a 70,s ,80,s car would have its interior, steering wheel, dashboard, door rubbers and paint disintegrate from heat but the rest of the car would be fine.
@andyjennings2061
@andyjennings2061 Жыл бұрын
Right call Eric, better being honest than keeping them waiting and THEN saying you can't fix it. Good work 👏
@AntonioClaudioMichael
@AntonioClaudioMichael Жыл бұрын
I agree @Andy Jennings
@JeffDeWitt
@JeffDeWitt Жыл бұрын
Many years ago someone hit my Studebaker Hawk. I told the body shop I could get the parts, but he insisted they could them them. So we waited, and waited and waited... and finally he admitted they couldn't get the parts. I brought the parts the next day.
@billupstateny9151
@billupstateny9151 Жыл бұрын
@@JeffDeWitt Them them ❓❓
@MRosati5000
@MRosati5000 Жыл бұрын
Experience teaches you when it's time to walk away. Good lesson for everyone.
@christopherl2143
@christopherl2143 Жыл бұрын
@@billupstateny9151 Typo Typo?
@engineeringpunk
@engineeringpunk Жыл бұрын
Down here in in the south where things don't rust, cars last so much longer than in the salt belt. I see a lot more Suzukis and Isuzus down here than you do I'm sure. That said, most places still won't touch them because of the parts issues you mention. I don't mind working on them, but I just make sure people understand that if I have to order something from Japan they have to wait, and pay accordingly. I've become the only guy in the area that does this and I've carved a nice little niche out doing it. Just rebuilt the rear end, replaced u-joints, and resealed the transfer case in an 88 Samurai a few weeks ago. Parts took 4 weeks to come from Japan. Owner was happy though.
@stevewhite3424
@stevewhite3424 Жыл бұрын
Heck, I've waited longer than that for parts to come from California to Florida. :)
@knurlgnar24
@knurlgnar24 Жыл бұрын
Us northerners love getting southern used vehicles so long as they weren't flooded. Those older japanese imports simply don't last up here whereas older detroit iron seems to take it a lot better. With today's new cars I'd say things are about even when it comes to rust. US automakers no longer spend an additional penny on rust protection unlike 20 years ago, and imports now DO design with rust in mind.
@CJsRC
@CJsRC Жыл бұрын
As a retired mechanic I agree with you not wanting to get involved with all that. During my days spinning wrenches on stock-cars, we sometimes utilized the services of a fiberglass crafter to create fuel fill tubes for custom fits. Just paint it with epoxy and all is good.
@miket1322
@miket1322 Жыл бұрын
Eric, your videos are a constant reminder that to those of us in the rust belt that we need to keep using the Fluid Film!
@calholli
@calholli Жыл бұрын
It reminds me to never travel there, let alone move there.
@pvillehick67
@pvillehick67 Жыл бұрын
You guys need plastic cars.
@caddyguy5369
@caddyguy5369 Жыл бұрын
@@pvillehick67 Not too far off of what they are these days.
@pvillehick67
@pvillehick67 Жыл бұрын
Let’s make them Carbon Fiber.
@robertbisson964
@robertbisson964 Жыл бұрын
I got my 2014 Sonata sprayed with oil/wax mix yearly when it was new ( 3 times) after that, every second year. I have no sings of rust,washing and regular waxing will also protect the paint. I do live in Québec and they use all those chemicals in the snowy long lasting winter months.
@mattmanyam
@mattmanyam Жыл бұрын
Here for the traditional elegant segue to the outro!! Your tongue-in-cheek delivery always makes me chuckle! Hopefully the customer understands why they got such a great deal on the Suzuki when they bought it.
@dnotso4574
@dnotso4574 Жыл бұрын
A mentor once told me: "You are defined by the things you DON'T do". Kudos man for knowing when to walk away. This job is one I would call the domino effect. One thing falls into another, and you'll get nothing but grief from the customer if you go forward with it.
@G31mR
@G31mR Жыл бұрын
You are so right. I have a one-man fabrication and repair shop. I tend to get a lot of jobs for old mowers, motorcycles, chainsaws, etc. that none of the big shops will touch...for the very reasons Eric gives us above. They almost always end up being frustrating headaches that take hours and hours that I can't possibly charge the customer for. One day I will learn to say "no" to this type of work...and that day is getting closer.
@John-ls5nu
@John-ls5nu Жыл бұрын
No one should ever think you're a jerk Mr o you're being an honest man of your integrity and like you said as a business owner that's the proper way to go about it cut your losses and walk away that's what I would do exactly from the word go love you videos keep them coming
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@mikechiodetti4482
@mikechiodetti4482 Жыл бұрын
When parts are obsolete it's time to let the vehicle go. It's rotted out, now it becomes a safety problem. You did the right thing Mr. O.
@mrkttrdr2919
@mrkttrdr2919 Жыл бұрын
ur the most honest mechanic in the world, ur not a jerk for turning down the repair, but for bumping into the camera in a tight space, thats another thing, 😁 thanks for posting
@catfishbilly7425
@catfishbilly7425 Жыл бұрын
As a shop owner myself, I would make the same call as you. This type of situation is unfortunate but in reality, chances are the customer already knew that parts availability would someday be an issue. They are, after all, driving a vehicle that was manufactured by a company that left the US market 10+ years ago.
@pthomson9736
@pthomson9736 Жыл бұрын
Great point. There comes a time when things are not repairable economically
@dianelinden
@dianelinden Жыл бұрын
when you hold onto discontinued models like the Gambler you have to know when to fold'em... nice job as always Mr E... RIP Mr. Rogers.
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@akdenyer
@akdenyer Жыл бұрын
Absolutely Eric, right call. I actually repaired a Suzuki Samurai ECU at component level. I thought well it is scrap so I had a go and got success. Capacitors had leaked all over the tracks and burned them. New caps and a couple of links and it worked. Time involved was about 2 hours. Much more and it would have been the crusher. No OBD2 on this vehicle.
@corbettknowles9942
@corbettknowles9942 Жыл бұрын
I had an 86 Suzuki Samurai years ago It smoked like a freight train drink oil by the gallon and wouldn't pull its on self through a mud puddle without getting stuck but it start every time
@donspirz4199
@donspirz4199 Жыл бұрын
You have to let these types of jobs go. It's good that you let the customer know what needs to be done or replaced but chasing parts from a business point of view is a waste of energy, time and money. I personally own a 2000 Suzuki Esteem which is rust free and better mechanically and appearance than a lot of vehicles that are 5 years old but in Hawaii, we don't have the salt on the roads like the salt belt states. I do have issues finding my parts now and then but I have the time to hunt them down. I'm a retired mechanic from working on vehicles for 50+ years and watching SMA does help me to understand the newer vehicles since I still work on friends and neighbors cars as a past time. Great job Eric O...
@robiecarmichael9958
@robiecarmichael9958 Жыл бұрын
No one should expect you to spend hours searching and ordering misfit parts. Unfortunately the average consumer is oblivious to this issue. Great video as always. Wish you and yours a Merry Christmas
@djsi38t
@djsi38t Жыл бұрын
It wouldnt take hours...5 minutes tops to find the parts...he just doesn't do stuff thats not readily available.He could easily fix this car....he just desn't want to give it the special attention it needs.
@kirkboswell2575
@kirkboswell2575 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful. LOVE seeing honest assessments. In addition to telling the owner you "can't fix it" "right now", you might tell them that provided THEY can collect the RIGHT parts, you'll be happy to fix their vehicle. But stress to them the need for exact matching part numbers, and explain the difficulties they might face. After that? Leave it TOTALLY in their hands.
@steveelkins52
@steveelkins52 Жыл бұрын
When I was a kid, my first car was always kept going with used parts from scrap yards. You learn a lot doing things twice and then paying someone to do it properly. at least your consultation gives him parts to go hunt for on the used market. Lets hope it keeps going.
@johnjames432
@johnjames432 Жыл бұрын
" Good call MR O" you are 100% correct.
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@phillipschutter24
@phillipschutter24 Жыл бұрын
Dude I am a seasoned vet in the Salt belt just south of shitcago, and I watch videos all the time seeing who knows what they are doing and youbare spot on my friend! Every time basically.... even someone like me can learn some things from you and I lined up my first timing chain on a 75 302 Ford at the age of 8 yrs old bravo my dude
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@scottnusser6232
@scottnusser6232 Жыл бұрын
I love it! I've been the Kenny Rogers of south Jersey for 38 years! Funny how fellas from upstate NY think alike. I usually tell the customer if they can source the correct parts I'll install them. Alot of times they like the challenge and will actually get what's needed to fix their car.
@JLange642
@JLange642 Жыл бұрын
That has got to be the cleanest 136K, 13 year old Suzuki engine bay there is!
@calholli
@calholli Жыл бұрын
Car wash only takes a few quarters and you can get any engine bay to look like that.
@DaDaDo661
@DaDaDo661 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I saw the title of the video and then the engine bay and was confused
@williamstidham2163
@williamstidham2163 Жыл бұрын
This is the most positive person I’ve ever watched on KZfaq, South Main Auto, Heres you problem lady.
@charleshenshaw9099
@charleshenshaw9099 Жыл бұрын
As a business owner for over 40 years I know exactly where you are coming from. Your in business to make money, not waste money. See you in the next one.
@samfusco8158
@samfusco8158 Жыл бұрын
Eric, you are a amazing diagnostician! Learned so much from you.
@kimberg759
@kimberg759 Жыл бұрын
Hi Eric, I own a Suzy Grand Vitara. I know what you are going through. Even though mine is in decent shape for being an 06, some parts are hard to find. I have been lucky and found whatever i needed for the ole girl. So i dont blame you at all for not attempting that one on your lift. Love the content. Love from AZ ❤
@daveblane6442
@daveblane6442 Жыл бұрын
grand vitara LOL LOL
@DeweyCheatumNHoweLLC
@DeweyCheatumNHoweLLC Жыл бұрын
@@daveblane6442 we called them Grand Viagara. 😁
@redandblackattack04
@redandblackattack04 Жыл бұрын
WHAT! You have to make money?! Say it ain't so! Seriously, thanks for taking us all on the ride figuring this out. Sincerely, people like me who love troubleshooting.
@siduramaxde
@siduramaxde Жыл бұрын
An old license plate to hold the new vent valve and some flex seal and this lady is back in business!!!
@davidroberts3692
@davidroberts3692 Жыл бұрын
For the amount of miles on the car the under hood looks really clean!
@motobator1895
@motobator1895 Жыл бұрын
ERIC… I was excited to find out you were working on this car as I have a mint 2012 model (6 speed) with 60k miles, Wife & I love it. Being from SC there aren’t ANY HERE! & theres not many videos on them. Thanks for everything you do!
@icewolf4juno
@icewolf4juno Жыл бұрын
I commend you sir. I am a mechanic that has been spoiled by the area I work in which is in the south east u.s. That one suzuki had more rust than all the cars that have gone under my wrench all year long. Thanks for all of your knowledgeable videos, they help and explain on a level that even children could understand.
@kevinbailey4454
@kevinbailey4454 Жыл бұрын
My newest vehicle is a '96 Chevy, my oldest is a tractor from the 40's. I run into obsolete parts all the time. If I can't buy what I need or if it just costs too much, I make it. That approach clearly wouldn't work for a business enterprise, Eric's call is the only one that makes sense here, but it does work for the right kind of DIY situation which for me relies upon my old school engineering background and a pretty well equipped machine shop. In this case, since the vent valve is available I'd buy it and fabricate whatever bracketry is needed to hold it in place. The filler neck would be more trouble than it's worth for me to make so I'd take the original down to my local muffler shop and ask them to whip me up a matching one from a chunk of exhaust pipe. If the bends needed were too tight for their mandrel I'd ask that they get as close as possible and I'd work with it from there. Any ports, fastener or connection points or other features I'd weld on as needed and beyond that I'd make it fit and make it work. In the old days kids took Shop in High School where they learned how to make stuff, most of what I build these days traces back to that early part of my education. The real trick is to keep secret one's ability to do these things, once that word leaks out you end up with a whole bunch of new best friends.
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@jeffreywilson2387
@jeffreywilson2387 Жыл бұрын
I grew up in IL and worked on plenty of cars that were a thousand pounds of rust on wheels. Now I live in AZ, and cars stay rust-free for decades! I watch every video you put out. You're definitely not a jerk. I understand your decision on this one, and I completely respect that you're willing to be straight with the owner! I watch your videos for 2 reasons; your knowledge and your integrity! Thank you for all of the great content, Eric!
@grannyflatgarage7599
@grannyflatgarage7599 Жыл бұрын
As you said obviously a good call from a business perspective. A possible option for the customer could be to go to an exhaust shop, I imagine they would be able to fabricate a replacement filler neck fairly easily if they had the original to copy. I assume there would be a lot of places that could bend/weld up a bracket as well. Might cost a bit more than a replacement part, but probably cheaper than a new car. Again not suggesting you should be doing that but possible options for the customer.
@kn4cc755
@kn4cc755 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. It's just metal tubing and assuming it can be removed in some resemblance of the original shape a decent tradesman with a tubing bender should be able to get close enough to keep it on the road. The bracket should not be too hard to duplicate either. The vent valve might be resurrected with a good cleaning too. But I do understand that a commercial shop can't afford the time to do this nor the liability that goes with it. Me? I'd do in in a heartbeat. Or I'd at least source the parts myself and have then on hand for a shop to install.
@annyer262
@annyer262 Жыл бұрын
Bend a.pipe and splice it in with band clamps!
@61rampy65
@61rampy65 Жыл бұрын
@@annyer262 This one time at band clamp I stuck a flute right up my......
@bennyblanko3
@bennyblanko3 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I did that, and it was a pain in the ass ... but it worked. But, I'm dyi and not a pro mechanic, and it was my own car, so nobody got upset at the non-factory filler.
@mdmyer
@mdmyer Жыл бұрын
Good to hear you eventually got your sense of smell back.
@dlaitch
@dlaitch Жыл бұрын
Once again an oil based undercoating that sprays on and seeps into crannies & crevices would have saved this vehicle if applied when newer & regularly. The hard film stuff you peeled off is almost worse than nothing because any cracks lets water under it and corrosion eats away then unseen . In my youth I had cars that either the motor was crap and body was good, or the motor was fine and the body & frame rusted away. Sadly some car buyers trade every few years and could care less what the next owner runs into with rust. Used buyers should ALWAYS get someone to hoist the car up and inspect for rust before buying anything. Love your honesty !👍👍✔.
@markh.6687
@markh.6687 Жыл бұрын
"Or a space-age polymer formula that chemically bonds to the surface, resulting in a finish so hard diamonds can't cut it! How much would YOU pay for such a product? DON"T ANSWER, because we'll also throw in our NEW Car Finish Protector!...."
@americanrambler4972
@americanrambler4972 Жыл бұрын
I get you totally on obsolete parts sourcing. I have sold or traded away 6 cars I just loved because they reached a point to where I could no longer get the parts I needed to make repairs. More often than not it’s body and chassis/suspension parts. I am now beyond the point where I am willing to crawl around salvage yards pulling parts. Especially on vehicles who’s parts are more often than not in worse condition than mine.
@2DogsVlogs
@2DogsVlogs Жыл бұрын
Sadly I had to let my 06 Grand Cherokee go 2 years ago for this same reason. Parts were getting so hard too find and stupid prices. I was lucky get one of the last OEM alternators for $1300. There were only 3 left in the world. I asked the Jeep dealer why, apparently Mercedes only keeps parts for 10 years then they get shredded and the model is so rare\old no-one rebuilds parts.
@45AMT
@45AMT Жыл бұрын
Use to love buying these from insurance auctions. Insurance would write these off no matter how little the damage due to no parts available. You could buy them dirt cheap and they weren't bad cars. I'd part one out and fix 3. But the value got so low they weren't worth messing with anymore. Last one I sold had 43k miles on it and the price I got for it was really low.
@lesterjones9335
@lesterjones9335 Ай бұрын
Would you happen to know where the fuel filter is on the kizashi?
@lepusmalignis1628
@lepusmalignis1628 Жыл бұрын
My neighbor had one of these exact vehicles. I was astonished at how few parts were available. It seems as though the manufacturer only did one serious production run of replacement parts and then retooled for their next model. Neighbor *did* manage to find the parts he needed, but had to find them at the parts yard in town. Got it running enough to disable the error codes and promptly sold it off to a local mechanic who was aware of the limitations.
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@shawnlee3495
@shawnlee3495 Жыл бұрын
I thinks its smart to know when to stop before any more damage is done. The knowledge you hand over to the customer in valuable and they will respect you for it. Thanks for another goid video.
@baja-automotive
@baja-automotive Жыл бұрын
The refrigerant leak detector is great for finding gas leaks. It’s also great for finding smoke too
@miceinoz1181
@miceinoz1181 Жыл бұрын
I have also been down the road chasing obsolete parts. It can be painful to the pocket. Were the car in better condition rust wise, I would even chase a western car wrecker in AZ for the filler and evap mounting hardware. Your decision to give this away is very wise in this case.
@andrewg6238
@andrewg6238 Жыл бұрын
Eric, I totally see your point. As a person who does a lot of my own work, I, too, sometimes throw my hands up...and take it in. Wish I had access to someone like you or Ray, but I haven't found one near me! Do what you gotta do, your are not a jerk. You are an honest man who doesn't half a** it and cause more problems. Thanks again!
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@ApexHotShot
@ApexHotShot Жыл бұрын
Eric, A reasonable decision and a fair one for your customer, too. One of the things I appreciate about my 23 year old Mustang is that I can readily find almost ANY repair parts … Ford or aftermarket … and at a sensible price. I love your videos. Happy Holidays to all.
@glennwolfe1663
@glennwolfe1663 Жыл бұрын
Much respect for your honesty with customers. Would not want it any other way👍👍👍👍👍😺🤗🐺
@djsi38t
@djsi38t Жыл бұрын
You suppose He said he could fix it but he just doesn't want to?That would be honest.
@rogerd8121
@rogerd8121 Жыл бұрын
Do what you have to do I’m behind you 100% on your decision love your videos I’m always watching them thanks for making videos for Us!!!!
@gregmarsh1372
@gregmarsh1372 Жыл бұрын
Love your honesty Mr.O.
@lvsqcsl
@lvsqcsl Жыл бұрын
I thought about you just about 2 hours ago. I hit a deer in the ol' Marquis about a year ago and had to put a cheap Chinese radiator because the OEM one was discontinued. It started to leak this week. I found a guy that had a new old stock radiator; it is manufactured by Johnson Controls and said, "Born in the USA." I just came in about an hour ago and not a leak one. The name of the game is to make money; sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do. You don't need to explain that to me, because I did this work years ago. You always do the best you can. That's all anyone can do. I think Ivan has one of these.....Oh! Wait, no. His is an XL-7. Great video!
@matthewhamrick1099
@matthewhamrick1099 Жыл бұрын
I would appreciate a honest mechanic rather than a parts changer looking to stuff his own pockets. Keep up the awesome work Eric o
@gflores7018
@gflores7018 Жыл бұрын
Gotta do what you gotta do . Your business Keep it coming Eric O
@tempest411
@tempest411 Жыл бұрын
This is where being handy with cars is useful. That filler necked could be fabricated from scratch, as could be the bracket that holds the EVAP canister. But at that point it had better be a car that you really like, and Suzukis don't often fall into that category.
@markl6769
@markl6769 Жыл бұрын
Good call Eric. Thanks.
@paulbeaudet8461
@paulbeaudet8461 Жыл бұрын
Parts availability is the reason I traded in my '06 Vitara in 2016. The parts were still available from Suzuki Canada, but many with a 2 week delay. Also, very, very little 3rd party parts. Real shame, loved the little truck and damn reliable.
@neilmurphy845
@neilmurphy845 Жыл бұрын
But why can't the company in Europe send on the parts It doesn't make sense you still see those cars around here in Europe
@treyinok
@treyinok Жыл бұрын
From someone who doesn't live in the rust belt its crazy to see how clean the engine bay looks from the top side but what a mess the car looks like from the bottom side. WOW!
@FlyerPhilip
@FlyerPhilip Жыл бұрын
For my Suzuki I try parts if needed from a 2010 Chev Cobalt. I found rear disk pads came from an 88 Corvette. It's all mix and match. Manufacturers don't like to change machinery unless it is a must. I've been finding out this stuff over the years.
@Texaca
@Texaca Жыл бұрын
....you'd think Auto Parts retailers could do this, since they all have access to databases that the average Joe/Jane/Chuy & DIYer doesn't have access to. What I've learned, they rarely provide reliable services, and just do the minimum.🤨 All they're concerned is with their bottomline, profit margins, value of their stock and it's projected valuation for their stockholders 🤔
@billsimpson604
@billsimpson604 Жыл бұрын
@@Texaca A few people go past the minimum. My sister was convinced that since her battery was a few years old, that she needed a new one. So she took her 2006 Mercury to a nearby Auto Zone store. An employee tested the battery and told her that she did not need a new battery! That was about 8 months ago & the battery is still working fine. Since her home had a 23 year old natural gas central heating unit, she asked her HVAC tech to check & see if it needed to be replaced, since it was 23 years old. After going up into her attic and checking it, he told her that it didn't need to be replaced. So there are still a few honest people out there. Had the HVAC man told her that she needed a whole new HVAC system, she would have told him to change it, no second opinion sought. She has the money.
@goenitzlopez2076
@goenitzlopez2076 Жыл бұрын
@@Texaca on the oreillys web site when you look up a part there is a click able item that let's you see parts compatibility with other vehicles. It's not 100% but it's pretty decent. Even if I don't use oreillys for said part I use it as a guide to see what might be compatible
@CaptainJakeG36
@CaptainJakeG36 Жыл бұрын
Glad you got your sense of smell back!
@chuckreed2677
@chuckreed2677 Жыл бұрын
As a customer, I would rather you tell me that starting down that road might lead to major expenditures and that you would advise me to leave it alone because the labor hours might get ridiculous. As a DIY'er I could take a chance and spend a lot of time tracking down parts. Glad I watched this so I can tell my friends and family to stay away from Su-sucky! Thanks for another informative video.
@floodx4947
@floodx4947 Жыл бұрын
Obsolete parts are driving me crazy ... and that's on a 2004 Corvette. Why GM wouldn't realize that people are not just going to scrap a 'Vette because it's approaching 20 years old is beyond me. But for some reason, the EBCM is completely unobtainable, and even something as benign as transmission cooler lines are no longer available. I've owned it since new, and have (had) every intention of keeping until I die ... but I am starting to wonder if that is going to be possible.
@ouch1011
@ouch1011 Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t make financial sense for a business to keep producing every part for every vehicle they’ve ever made. Especially an electronic part like an EBCM which they probably bought from an outside supplier anyway. If the supplier doesn’t make it anymore, or a supplier that the supplier used doesn’t make a particular part for it anymore, then they aren’t going to sell it anymore. Sucks as a consumer, but it’s basic common sense for a business.
@alancall5113
@alancall5113 Жыл бұрын
Great job most honest mechanic around I wish you lived in my area You and yours have a merry Christmas
@ChrisWilliams-pu8pj
@ChrisWilliams-pu8pj Жыл бұрын
I understand what you are doing. You have to make a living and can not do so chasing these kind of issues. Unfortunately, I think this is becoming more and more prevalent even in the newer vehicles. Keep up the good work!
@scottfirman
@scottfirman Жыл бұрын
No, you are NOT being a jerk, just honest. I am done working on rotted out discontinued obsolete equipment and especially vehicles. As you said, one thing leads to another with those types of vehicles. Reminds me of the Yugo. I owned two of them. One was a parts vehicle.
@RGSABloke
@RGSABloke Жыл бұрын
Well done Eric, that is a rabbit you just don’t want to go down. When you tell the customer what the script is they will be disappointed, but holio f _ _ k (as AvE would say) your sanity will remain intact. Also your customer now has a realistic perspective on any any other garage telling them it’s an easy fix.
@nealfox1976
@nealfox1976 Жыл бұрын
Great call Mr O. I agree with you, not to open up a can worms.
@WCSPete1
@WCSPete1 Жыл бұрын
I run two old P38's, 20 and 24 years old as daily drivers. You gotta make the same judgement calls about your own 'stuff' sometimes; although I never seem to do. Great out-tro once again.
@donw3912
@donw3912 Жыл бұрын
The choice to not pursue to completion is the best option. Your found the problems and now the owner can go parts chasing if he/she wants to. I am amazed though at how good the floors looked in it...looks like most of the bolt on stuff is whats taking the corrosion beating.
@harriettedaisy2233
@harriettedaisy2233 Жыл бұрын
I swear to God, my neighbor can get parts for his 31 Model A easier and faster than I can get parts for my 92 F150. If I could plow snow with it I’d consider getting one.
@bobrenner7213
@bobrenner7213 Жыл бұрын
The Model A was built before the Government got involved with being 'green'.
@chrisfreemesser5707
@chrisfreemesser5707 Жыл бұрын
I can get just about any part I need for my '68 Beetle but can no longer get some parts for my 2010 Dodge...go figure
@LadyAnuB
@LadyAnuB Жыл бұрын
@@chrisfreemesser5707 Does your new speedometer come in kilometers per hour? 😅 My sister's 67 may still need one but a new from Mexico part only comes in metric units 😅
@chrisfreemesser5707
@chrisfreemesser5707 Жыл бұрын
@@LadyAnuB You can get a new one from the UK that comes in MPH and there's no shortage of rebuilt OEM speedos available
@wontusemynamereally7023
@wontusemynamereally7023 Жыл бұрын
Never ceases to amaze me the damage caused by salting the roads. I live in Oregon and as you all know we get a ton of rain. But, we do not salt our roads in the winter time. The difference between cars here and there in the rust belt is staggering. For instance, I drive a 1999 Yukon daily driver and the only rust on that is on the exhaust. There it would be a unicorn. There are a lot of cars on our roads from the 90's and even 80's that do not have any rust problems. It's hard for me to imagine that a car 10-15 years old can be rusted to the point of being scrapped. I'd have walked away from that Suzuki as well, If a guy had the time to look for all those parts and source them from scrapyards, that are not in the rustbelt, great. But as a business you would have more hours in dealing with getting the right parts than actually working on the car. How do you invoice those hours?
@theverizondroid
@theverizondroid Жыл бұрын
Keep doing what you do. I've seen you fix some of the craziest things but guessing games is a loss of time patience and confidence from customers.
@paulstandaert5709
@paulstandaert5709 Жыл бұрын
For stuff like this, its best to contact a salvage yard in the southern states and have them ship you the part. There's not much else for options. *Pretty sure* that the 2 filler necks are for sedan and hatchback. But "pretty sure" can cost you a lot of time. I've been running an 09 SX4 for several years now. It has been quite the skookum car.
@dlewis9760
@dlewis9760 Жыл бұрын
Replacement parts are probably Chinesium these days.
@paulstandaert5709
@paulstandaert5709 Жыл бұрын
@@dlewis9760 It is interesting that you mentioned this. I recently finished a rusted frame replacement on a Toyota pickup, and I replaced a generous amount of parts during the process... Gas tanks control arms, sway bar link, blah blah blah. Only 2 items said "made in China" on them. They were exhaust manifolds and brake hose retainer clips. Guess which of all these parts gave me trouble? It's almost like the "Trump tariffs" has made a difference!
@donakahorse
@donakahorse Жыл бұрын
I can't think of a single reason anyone would think you're a jerk for being honest with the customer. I live in Northeast Ohio, another rust belt area. When taking something apart will result in the possibility of it not being able to go back together, it's time to walk away. Those filler necks are next to impossible to find, and forget getting one from a boneyard, they'll be in the same shape.
@clydestanley4740
@clydestanley4740 Жыл бұрын
Great video Eric. Love the introduction and be thankful for the big shnazzola.
@cccspokesmanandcofounder
@cccspokesmanandcofounder Жыл бұрын
And somewhere in the darkness, Eric O, he broke even and in his final words I found a video I could like.
@funeo618
@funeo618 Жыл бұрын
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@d46512
@d46512 Жыл бұрын
Did the filler neck on my 05 Suzuki a few years ago. The neck was available Aftermarket, Spectra Premium, though the fit was less than ideal.
@robertbisson964
@robertbisson964 Жыл бұрын
Miracles are done in churches not in a repair shop like yours. Keep it up, you are the Best.
@kensirois7861
@kensirois7861 11 ай бұрын
I just changed the filler neck on my 2011 sx4. I'm in eastern Canada and order my parts from Freshwater Motorplex Suzuki in Newfoundland. As long as I can run this car and not buy an over priced new car is my plan. It still runs great. Thanks for the videos!
@williamalbright8878
@williamalbright8878 Жыл бұрын
You always have me on your side sir
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@funeo618 Жыл бұрын
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@Black3ternity
@Black3ternity Жыл бұрын
You have explained yourself in the last couple of videos pretty well Eric. I hope the Armchair Experts aren't giving you too much of a hard time. As someone who doesn't work on cars and just owns one to bring to a good shop like yours, I have no right to tell you how to do your business. I always appreciate the insight and even if you have tough calls to make like with this one. You do your business just fine - otherwise you wouldn't be here. Additionally, you give us this content for free - so nobody has the right to complain about your choices. I for myself am here for the entertainment, the learning experience and to get my mind to another place while sitting in my chair all day long working with Spreadsheets and Mails. Keep up your great work and help with the customers. I know that you would have gone to the junkyard if there was a chance of getting parts.
@robertquast9684
@robertquast9684 Жыл бұрын
I have fixed a few filler necks with exhaust tubing and a bender. Probably have had better luck then the dorman replacement ones
@scottmcewan9647
@scottmcewan9647 Жыл бұрын
Good call MR O.. 👍 Sometimes difficult but defo the right call.
@basshunter428
@basshunter428 Жыл бұрын
I run into the same (discontinued) problem with my 98 Wrangler and it can be a real PITA to track down acceptable replacement parts (especially sensors, modules, etc...). When I locate an OEM I try to buy 2 because there is no telling if they will be available 5yrs down the road. The hunt for serviceable parts in my area is made even tougher because there are very few junk yards and their prices can approach the "new in box" level. I totally get your "fold'em" decision!
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@funeo618 Жыл бұрын
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@michaelshields5921
@michaelshields5921 Жыл бұрын
I can relate to you folding the cards , years ago learning electrical work I went on a service call and it was all cloth wiring in the old house and a penny and a nickle behind the screw in fuse . Boss was called and he said to be nice but we would not be doing the job because of liability to just put in the new service. Old wiring if you touch it it falls off , just like the rust on some of the cars from up in the rust belt , Everything would have to be replace in the house.
@markh.6687
@markh.6687 Жыл бұрын
Had the rubber insulation in a house built in 1941, the US $10 light fixture turned into a house rewiring. The village the house was in let the electrical change the service drop/meter case/breaker panel without rewiring the house before I bought it.
@stinkypinkies
@stinkypinkies Жыл бұрын
Though I have not noticed it, I do not find it odd that you are breathing. You seem better equipped for the activity than most.
@scooterwoodley195
@scooterwoodley195 Жыл бұрын
Well stated
@aaronbryant8489
@aaronbryant8489 Жыл бұрын
That crooked finger cracks me up every time I see it 😂 great video as always long time viewer here I’ve learned a lot from you very much appreciated!
@darylmorgan9887
@darylmorgan9887 Жыл бұрын
You made the right call Eric. To much stuffing around around to get the right parts. Let the customer source the parts and no doubt you would gladly fix it for them
@ecleveland1
@ecleveland1 Жыл бұрын
Eric, if you are truthful with your customer and explain to them what the issues are there is no reason for anyone to be upset. If I was about to walk into a hornet's nest I would sure want someone to tell me before I did.
@carpetguy69
@carpetguy69 Жыл бұрын
Love the title “old , rusty and obsolete “, just like me😂
@Apodalont
@Apodalont Жыл бұрын
You made the right call. You have a business to run and time is money. Wouldn't be smart to get knee deep in that mess.
@cliffordstreck9723
@cliffordstreck9723 Жыл бұрын
Been following you for a long time and seeing more of your shop.... well a man can't have too many tools but looks like your getting close.
@aku2dimensional
@aku2dimensional Жыл бұрын
My parents had a 2012 Suzuki Grand Vitara until 2014 because my father had concerns about insufficient parts supply when GM dissolved the partnership, the coup de grâce on his decision to get a different vehicle was the fact that the dealership took just about two years to get a cargo tray shipped from Japan to the US. It wasn't a bad car but GM wanted nothing to do with Suzuki anymore and they built them with even worse quality than a late model Pontiac, in fact the rear passenger doors started to rust underneath the weatherstripping just in just one year alone.
@michaelweatherhead9470
@michaelweatherhead9470 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Eric O. I know what you mean my 97 civic HX rusty still runs but you got to make the call when to quit. Take care of yourself and family ❤️❤️❤️👍
@fredproctor6973
@fredproctor6973 Жыл бұрын
You can only do so much, you're not a miracle worker. I totally understand where you're coming from.
@atffan
@atffan Жыл бұрын
Now't wrong with being honest with the Client and Yourself and walking away from a problem. 10/10 in my book.
@alanb285
@alanb285 Жыл бұрын
Hard to believe the engine bay is so clean for a salt belt car!
@bluecollar58
@bluecollar58 Жыл бұрын
We can’t throw away small plastic bags but we can throw vehicles away for need of a fifty dollar part.
@stationaryenginesworldwide
@stationaryenginesworldwide Жыл бұрын
Great video Eric and totally agree with the prognosis !
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@holdshortrunway27
@holdshortrunway27 Жыл бұрын
Nice Segway Eric to leave a comment. Just teasin ya, u r the best ! More cameo's of Mrs. O, that story of running over a sign at Walmart was gold, HILARIOUS. HAPPY HOLIDAYS to you n your family.
@airmailman1971
@airmailman1971 Жыл бұрын
Eric, what do you charge the customer when there is a no fix situation like this? Is it a diagnostic fee or is it free?
@diyeveryday67
@diyeveryday67 Жыл бұрын
Most shops in past 20 years are 1hour Diagnostic fee just to drop off - Eric O should be no different. He put his time into diagnosing, he needs to get paid for that time.
@caddyrack
@caddyrack Жыл бұрын
The dog doesn't wag his tail for nothing......How many diags can you do for free when the customer decline repairs? You're on the hook for 4 or 5 hours and no pay, you won't be in bizz for long keeping this up. Cheers
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