Hi Max, Our pleasure to help out... this is the best community on KZfaq. I cracked up at "It's out and it's on the floor somewhere" Cheers.... ATB...

Thanks for bringing us along on that very detailed repair, and explanation of the mechanisms. Looks like you’ll end up with a good machine after all this work. 👍👍👍

It’s out!….and it’s on the floor somewhere…” 🤣🤣 Thanks Max!!

Hanging out with you in your environment would be a blast, plus it’d be an educational experience. You bring up a lot of really great techniques that I’ve incorporated into my work. Cheers.

Enjoyed…glad to support your shop with some tooling and thanks to Dean to assemble/ship

G'day Max. Maybe there's an (adapter) plate missing between the pump and the head on your lathe. Perhaps that would have contained the springs to hold the balls. That's what I'd be making next I reckon. Good luck. Bob

Some nice tooling you got there from our fellow creators. It is hard to believe how hard it is for you Australian guys to get that stuff, when we are tripping over it here in the States.

I am always surprised at how often I need large calipers. Those are a really good score. Mine go up to 48" and use them more often then one might think. I love these machine repair projects.

G'day Max, perfect timing for a new video just before lunchtime here, from a bright and sunny Lincolnshire UK 🇬🇧

Real nice care package you got there. Good to see that Gary is still about. Been missing his posts. Also enjoy seeing what you share with us Max.

That's a lot of work to find the problems and fantastic work to fix them. . Amazing.

Excellent job Max. I think you got a good machine there. They all need a little tweaking sometimes at least the Asian ones in my experience always need a little tweaking. Good day to you, my friend. Kimber.

G'day Max. Good to see the You Tube Family helping out with a few excellent goodies that should come in very handy over time. The JFMT Apron assembly starting to look the part. It will be great to see it fitted & working Well Done 👍🏻 👍🏻 👍🏻

Hi Max. 1 step closer to finishing the JFMT!! Looks like your getting tooled up nicely with help of your friends. 👍👍 Cheers

Great show as always , Mike in Loving, Texas 👍

Great to see the California gang helping out. Looking very good Max. That lathe will be good as new soon.

Enjoyed the tractor parts, but glad to see you back on the JFMT :)

Great tool donations, I purchased a 5mm Bondhuis T wrench of the same type here from Amazon UK earlier this year, £ 8.00 ( A$ 16). Great work on reassurecting that apron, quite involved 👏. Thanks for sharing Max.

Gday Max, the apron has a lot going on inside and the oil pump doesn’t add up at all, absolutely fantastic gifts, sad we can’t buy gear like that here in Australia, cheers

stitched up like a kipper! ( is that like being bent over the counter?lol) love it!!!

Hi, Max! Don’t forget that your shaper is Brazilian. Cheers from Brazil

I love how the rain came on que lol. Great work like always.

Great video Max. Having had some experience of 'quality' Chinese kit , I feel your pain!! (very sadly, these days you get very little choice). But then it helps explain some of the reasons that company's like DSG have gone - they sell one machine and you keep using it 'til you die - then it goes to someone else. With the chinese one, they know that in 10 years you'll need a new one!!

G'day, Max. Isn't it great when people like Dean, Chuck, and Gary send you stuff out of the blue like that. Stuff they know you will appreciate and put to good use. Well done, you guys, that was such a kind thing to do. You talking about how expensive things are in Australia. I will tell you a short story. I say short, shorter than my usual comments. Right cobber 😂 It's been many years since I was last in Aus, and I remember just how expensive it is to live there. I reckon most of what you buy is imported as it is in New Zealand which is the main reason prices are so high down under. Admittedly, your weekly wage is good, salaries even better from what I remember. My son emigrated to New Zealand in 1986, as the British company he was employed by wanted to open a branch down under. After careful consideration and due diligence, New Zealand turned out to be the better choice for their business, mainly due to the cost of living in Aus. Then, in 1999, he met his would you brlieve it, Australian wife to be. In 2001 they got married, which is when I flew out. After two weeks of living the typical tourist life, I decided perhaps it was not too late to emigrate after all. So, I checked out a few things on the island, crunched some numbers, and then popped over to Aus for a couple of weeks. I considered myself to be on reconnaissance, for want of a better word. My mission was to gather as much information as possible over two weeks from different cities then return in time to spend a few more days with my son and his wife after they got back from their honeymoon. As I had already done the tourist thing in 82 with some mates of mine over much of Australia, my soul purpose was just to see how feasible emigrating for me was. Sadly, a major move down under was not on the cards. When I compared the cost of living between Australia, New Zealand, and England, it was a no-brainer for me. Starting with Australia. I don't have the answers to why 70% of what is sold in your supermarkets is imported other than rain may have something to do with it. On a like for like basis utility bills, the cost of properties such as houses similar in size to mine, were the most expensive out of all three countries but wages and salaries were much better than here in the UK. Businesses like my three are all well paid and, therefore, ballance out the monthly expenditure to a reasonably acceptable way of living. Plus, the beaches are the best I've seen around the world. New Zealand. Again, everything in the supermarkets is expensive despite having plenty of rain compared to Aus. One thing that did put me of was the high crime rate. Wages and salaries were about the same, better than the UK, but businesses like my three paid much better than in Aus. Beaches are good, far better than here in the UK but there is far more to do by way of entertainment in the open air. Forest exploration and mountaineering which I like to do although, at my age now, if I were living in Kiwi land, I would consider toning that down a bit. At 63 climing mountains is probably not a good idea. Then there are all the hikes to do over the islands. Tough decision I had to make back then, but after all the number crunching. Lists of pros and cons, the wife and I decided emigration was not for us. Sad I know but quite frankly, had it been feasible then I would have moved to Aus quicker than you could say 'Kevin Bloody Wildon'. After all, New Zealand is but a short journey across the sea by plane where I could have treated each trip to see my son and his new family of four as a holiday. A two week holiday three or four times a year would have been great. Now, I visit just twice a year for a month each trip. Now thats out of the way im off to dig out some Kevin Bloody Wilson CDs I picked up the last time I was in Aus. Does your dad own a brewery? Or the one about Living next door to Alan. 😂😂😂 Sorry mate, the video. Great fix with those shimms and keyways. Its surprising what an extra few thou will do. Who says size is everything?😏🤭 See you next time, fella.👍😁🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿⚒️

Great vid Max. Admire your skills at problem solving and making the parts to fix the problem. Thanks for the video.

Hi Max great video as always . It’s summer here in the uk and it’s still peeing it down.😢

Nice episode, Max. I meant to mention last episode, how much I enjoyed your views of the local landscape out there. A nice contrast to here in Tallahassee, lol.

Hi again Max, I think the spring/s go in first then the balls. Cheers, Davo

That’s just it too, all them little issues leading up to bigger issues. And it’s time, patience, and know how that will seize the day. Oh, and motivation.. forgot the most important one.. that machine is going to run as smooth as a Mazak when it’s all done !

Enjoyed this one Max. There has to be a “fix” for the cam operated oil pump check balls surely? 🤷‍♂️ But no, I don’t see an obvious fix other than as others have said, some one skipped that part of the machining maybe? Or might it be that someone put a Mazak pump onto the JFMT at some point and they aren’t compatible? So say on the JFMT the check balls & springs are machined to fit into the pump body but on the Mazak the recessed are machined into the apron body & when you put the Mazak pump onto the JFMT there’s no machined recess on either? 🤷‍♂️ The mind boggles. Enjoyed this one a lot. Keep up the solid progress, you are getting there one (or two) week/s & video/s at a time. Cheers

very good video Friend Max

Looking good max, I'm working on restoring and old Sebastián lathe, a real project for sure. Great video, keep'um coming.

Amigo max felicidades me alegra mucho que estés realizando tus arreglos para esas máquinas que tanto lo necesitan

Thanks for the show Max 🍻

Good learning session, thanx Maxie.

Hi Max. Have you thought of making a check-valve plate between the original pump and the apron. It would require a new automatic plunger shaft that would be longer by the thickness of the check-valve plate.

Max, your much appreciated! I wish you had the opportunity to buy the original Mazak. That's superior quality and you, and the former owner, could use the Mazak for work instead of repairing it multiple times. The manual is weird. "We are proud to copy a Mazak" (but we're not able to do it right...) I hate this behavior. Their food is good, no nagging here. Thank you Max! Best! Job

Max would those balls just sit in the side ports and work as check balls. Looks very similar to check balls in automatic transmission that just float back a forth doing they job. You could give it a try will the top is off a visually see if the lube pump works. Would be nice to keep original look!

Max, Last comment. I think you have to put that other pump back on because it pushes oil up to lube the gears in the saddle. Last Cheers, Davo

Lee Ho Fuk ROFLMFAO. Hong Kong Louie is what I call 'em. Quite a haul the boys sent over. Gary is one talented repairman eh? I like his channel as well. Anyway Lee Ho Fuk is going to a bloody nice tool one you get him back in one piece. It's a great size machine to have in the workshop. From straw to blue in a nanosecond...I know that all too well!.

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Max, Very kind of the constructors to leave the oil pump valve bits in the bottom of the apron in case anyone actually examined their assembly work. I’m sure that there was a rice paper certificate of inspection by Kwai Chang Kain….

I guess when one buys Chinnesium one knows the quality to expect. A Yamazaki Mazak would be nice however it would cost some more. This machine will be turning better than new after it's had the Max treatment. cheers. Butch.

For a similar lathe ( JET 220-80 ): There would be a milled plate between the apron housing and the oil pump casting. Ball seat(s) and spring recesses are p/O that plate. Not sure if this applicable to your JFT?

Cool video, sorry if i missed it but are you gonna paint the inside of the caradge? might be better to not have all that old paint flaking into the oil.

Hi Max, nothing like automatic oiling for the saddle and apron for the longevity of the lathe, especially how complex yours is. Hope you get to the issue of the problem. Lot of Chinese bashing, the JFMT is a robust lathe with a good name. Testament to Kurtis the quality work he achieves on his Chinese lathes. Our Aussie dollar, aka Pacific Peso is with some economists predicting to drop to 30 cents against the US dollar. We will be living on fish heads and rice.

Thank you Max!

There is quite a lot of "cheap engineering decisions" made in the construction of the Chinese copy machine tools. That said the non functional oil pump is a true WTF. You are right on them being run along time with them inop before anyone notices, even on my DSG the cross slide had gone dry when I bought it from a dead oil pump (the plunger spring was in 3 pieces), though you do have a sight glass to look at an open oil pipe spurting in the apron so you can see when it isn't working. Luckily there was very minimal damage/ wear caused, I think largely because the lathe hasn't done a whole lot of work, though I believe it was from a university originally and shows some abuse from that, the tailstock socket was particularly chewed up inside, the bed surface you never run on infront of the chuck is full of dings and the top of the saddle has clearly had every tool or part they could find dropped onto it at some point. Im glad that in the UK used tooling can be picked up reasonably cheaply, for instance I picked up a used but pretty good Rohm 8" 3 jaw lathe chuck this winter locally for £40

Can anyone help with a couple of aussie expressions new to me? 9:00 "Bit of a bingle(sp?)" 32:30 "Doo-vell-acky" . Max great video as always, your narrations are very informative and entertaining!

Hello Max, can you give the link to the apron hand oil pump please. Found others but not the design you have. My Taiwanese Victor lathe apron pump has a leaking reservoir and each time I need to fill the considerable sized reservoir - waste of a lot of slideway oil before the inlet port is covered. Thanks. Bob

I expect the balls were meant to go between the pump and the apron casting, but when they made the casting they forgot to drill out the two holes correctly to take the balls and springs. So the assembler couldn't fit the balls and springs and chucked them into the apron. Whoever worked on previously threw away the springs but never noticed the two balls.

Great video max there not making it easy for you are they 😂good job you can handle a challenge 👍👍👍👍

Not tempted to turn up a couple of valve seats to make the original pump work, or could you use reed valves?

Another installment from Max,

Thx for the vid.

Hello Max. I believe my lathe has the exact same oil pump. I'll look in my parts book this afternoon to see if the balls are shown.

Not too fond of the Chinese oil pump. Would rather you modify the original to work with the automatic pump function. I know you would be observant enough to see the oil coating from the pump if working or not. Just my almost worthless two cents. Great job with the rebuild. With all the wear to the apron and tail stock - do we know the condition of the ways?

Those Chinese sellers on Aliexpress know very well how to confuse buyers, because then we buy more (just to be sure). cheers ben

Hi Max have you thought of useing a tyer shrader valve for the oil pump,great video.

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Yes it is the crummy thing about Australia and machine tooling. So expensive and not a lot about. Max where is your go to for reasonable reamers. What is your method of sealing the apron bottom plate where you drop the oil out.

I guess it was easier to drill new locking screw holes than drill "half a hole"

Quería compartir contigo una noticia pronto comprare un torno usado amigo max y te lo voy a mostrar será por foto espero y lo veas amigo 👏👏👏🙂🙏👍

Why not make an adapter plate with provisions for some check balls? Remount the original piston pump to it

I would like to have the automatic oiling working as intended by Mazak. I know you can. I would hate an also Chinesium cheapo pump unit in plain sight every time I use (multiple times please!) the lathe. Better; if it works? Sell the f*ck*r. ! Buy a proper lathe when you have the chance. This one; all parts undersized to the task, ugly castings or no love or beauty to be seen and headaches since it came; lose it, it sucks. My piece of advice. Better to turn halfway than to be lost the whole way (trying to translate a valid Dutch saying here). Wisdom and best! Job

Interesting video watching you work on this apron, when you were talking about those missing springs I thought of an idea about the replacement springs and if you had strip of spring steel that would fit in between the shafts?

China man he say, you want check valve, yea we throw that in for you. You want extra gear, yea we throw that in for you. You want bigger throw, yea we cut bigger hole in bed way. All problem easy solve.