Our Australian made Hercus tool & cutter grinder is used to grind a 60 degree threading tool .
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@blondin074 ай бұрын
Max, your bits of "useless information" are pure gold.
@swanvalleymachineshop4 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@paularbon10939 ай бұрын
Thanks Max for the informative video. Your lathe cut thread at the end of the video looks perfect.
@swanvalleymachineshop9 ай бұрын
No worries 👍
@pipeliner61225 ай бұрын
Want thank you for all the knowledge your passing on 👍
@swanvalleymachineshop5 ай бұрын
No worries 👍
@jdmccorful10 ай бұрын
Thanks Max. Enjoyed and learned something new.
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
Cheers 👍
@RalfyCustoms10 ай бұрын
Far out Max! G'day mate and thoroughly enjoyed this one, always always learn something watching you 👍
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
Thanks Mate 🍺🍺🍺
@1crazypj9 ай бұрын
When I was training in mid 70's, instructor always made a real big deal about working out helix angle. As usual, we 'kids' (18-20) didn't pay enough attention. I had to make a 1" Whitworth thread, helix angle suddenly became 'quite important' as thread depth allowed tool to interfere with sides. Was almost finished when half nuts disengaged, destroyed thread when it took 0.100" cut. (it was a very old worn machine, mainly kept to force people to pay attention, I had previously made 'hundreds' of 0.060"dai, 0.300" long stainless steel rivets for Vic's hobby of clock making ) Vic would go a bit crazy if we ran machine backwards instead of disengaging half nuts, had to use thread dial on all Imperial threads. I've always had a problem with compound angles so trial and error for me as well.😉
@swanvalleymachineshop9 ай бұрын
Sounds like you had a good teacher . 👍
@sierraspecialtyauto704910 ай бұрын
Very good T & C tutorial, Max. Thanks.
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
No worries 👍
@jackk703010 ай бұрын
Hercus 👍👍👍 good one Max 💪💪💪 🇦🇺
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@jonsworkshop10 ай бұрын
Very nicely made Max, edit, I removed my stupid question lol, I really am losing my mind. Cheers, Jon
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
Lol , i wonder what your question was !!! Cheers Jon 👍
@joell43910 ай бұрын
Very informative. Thanks Max 👍😎👍
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
Cheers 👍
@terrycannon57010 ай бұрын
Excellent tutorial Max. I saved the video for future reference. Thanks for bringing us along.
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
No worries 👍
@jimpritz416910 ай бұрын
Very informative video Max. Thanks for all the tips you're a wealth of knowledge.
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
Cheers 👍
@edcallahan695210 ай бұрын
Thanks for the informative video on how valuable it is to know about basic tool grinding and Using it in real world matching jobs. Most people want to buy the most correct tool they can find and when it needs touching up they throw it away and get another. You always have very informative and interesting projects keep it up I know it is a lot of work for you to put these out but thanks again ed
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
No worries , Cheers 👍
@DK-vx1zc10 ай бұрын
Very interesting and informative. Thanks for sharing.. I learned and enjoyed
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
No worries 👍
@TrPrecisionMachining10 ай бұрын
very good video friend MAX..thanks for your time
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
Cheers 👍
@mcgama8810 ай бұрын
Hi Max. Thanks for having me along. I really enjoy the learning chance at various fitter task. M.
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
No worries 👍
@soundlimit30010 ай бұрын
Excellent video Max.
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@eyuptony10 ай бұрын
Great informative video once again Max. Enjoyed watching. Cheers Tony
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
Thanks Tony 👍
@be00710 ай бұрын
thanks for sharing max. cheers ben.
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
No worries . 👍
@opieshomeshop10 ай бұрын
*_Really good work there. Didn't even chatter. Looks like it cut really smooth. I need to eventually get one of those tool grinders._* 😎👣
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
There a bloody handy machine to have around . They just require a ton of tooling ! 👍
@inmyshedwithbc.10 ай бұрын
Good video Max both in explanation and production. BC
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
Thanks . Hey Bernie , i am just the learner on the T & C machines ! 👍
@howder195110 ай бұрын
A really great oid school lesson in tool grinding precision. Thanks Max, enjoyed it thoroughly.
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
Cheers 👍
@andrewgartlan500310 ай бұрын
More ‘useless’ information would be helpful to me Max. I’m just at the very beginning and your tips and insights are very helpful mate.
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@raymondmarteene704710 ай бұрын
Thanks Max, Great tip about grinding tools for the old style tool holders, got several of them I want to try. Cheers
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
No worries 👍
@tomsing638410 ай бұрын
Max is Back, and has interred into The Swan Valley Machine Shop as a first class toolmaker machinist. I like those shields that you are making for the grinder, and although the wheels very seldom fly apart and put out both of your eyes you are taking all the necessary precautions not only for your own safety but showing the world the right way to do the job, thanks. Thanks for showing how to make a precision thread cutter the right way. And getting your lawn mowed for free, no snakes, no problems, I did see the HBM standing at attention waiting patiently for the year 2024 to come rolling in, so the master can start addressing those ways, and all the broken and bent and missing bits and pieces.
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
Lol , thanks 👍
@kentuckytrapper78010 ай бұрын
Cuts like a brand new file max, always learn something from your videos, keep'um coming...
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@tonyray9110 ай бұрын
Nice tip on the use of the phone Max.
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
No worries 👍
@RobB_VK6ESАй бұрын
Given the Hercus brand catered mainly to the education sector, that poor old Hercus grinder has probably spent it's entire life making threading tools. I recall making a square threading tool when I was an apprentice on the same machine. What ever happened to Hercus? There used to be a Chinese company making machines and the local importer had them branded as Herless. No doubt trading on the similar name.
@swanvalleymachineshopАй бұрын
Thanks . Not sure where how company ended up . They are a pretty good grinder for their size . 👍
@MrValhem26510 ай бұрын
Loved it well explained Max cheers.
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
No worries , Cheers 👍
@RossiDeakin040610 ай бұрын
Most tool an cutter grinders I've used have a reversible spindle switch for whilst using other side of the wheel 👍🍻
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
The wheel retainer nut would come off . One day i will convert it to the hub system .👍
@Warped65er10 ай бұрын
Enjoyed the vid.. Thx Max.
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
No worries 👍
@alandawson281310 ай бұрын
Another awesome video young max, thank you for you willingness to share your wealth of knowledge with the rest of the world. From the kiwi
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
Cheers 👍
@TedRoza10 ай бұрын
G'day Max. Excellent tuition on what to sharpen & how. Slow process, but a good result. Well done, catch you on Your next venture. 🎉 😊
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@markwatters687510 ай бұрын
Another top video, thanks mate. Refreshed the tool sharpening up in the grey matter. Have a good one 👍🇦🇺
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
Cheers 👍
@donmadere423710 ай бұрын
Thanks for the educational video
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
No worries 👍
@mikeburton707710 ай бұрын
Thanks for a very informative video!
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
No worries 👍
@zvonibab10 ай бұрын
There is always something to be picked out of your video, thank you.
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@johnkries81899 ай бұрын
Good project 🎉
@swanvalleymachineshop9 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@jasonhull571210 ай бұрын
Well done. Tool grinder is paying for itself fast. 👍🏻
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@donmittlestaedt111710 ай бұрын
Excellent.
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@willemvantsant510510 ай бұрын
Hi Max, I have an Ifanger threading tool with 55 and 60 degree HSS inserts, certainly a handy tool for finer threads. I use mainly carbide threading inserts now. Offhand grinding HSS is becoming a lost art with the multitude of inserts available I think. Back in the late sixties used to watch the machinists offhand grind HSS toolforms, true craftsmanship. They wouldnt let anyone near their grinders!
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
I do not have a good enough off hand grinder with a proper tool rest table . When i find one , one day i will pick one up . Your right , there are inserts for just about everything now , but expensive ! 👍
@willemvantsant510510 ай бұрын
Hi Max, I was offered same T&C some 40 years ago when our Instrument Maker retired, grinder was made redundant, I declined as had no room in my garage and didn't want the grinding dust on my machines. Kicking myself now.
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
@@willemvantsant5105 They seem a great machine for their small size compared a full size one .
@gregkernick415410 ай бұрын
Awsome love your work
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
Cheers Greg 👍
@bulletproofpepper29 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing, you useless information but it makes perfect sense when you see it in the video. Steve summers just showed a grinding fixture that may be easily made.
@swanvalleymachineshop9 ай бұрын
No worries 👍
@DudleyToolwright10 ай бұрын
Another killer video, Max. Thanks, I learned a bunch.
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
Thanks Rob . 👍
@bostedtap839910 ай бұрын
100 % agree on grinding wheel guarding, doesn't take much for then to explode, even when used properly, many don't realise the portable hand tool discs are flexible, not so on machine tools, though some slitting wheels can be. 10 & 14" metallurgical sectioning wheels are certainly not flexible . Great job Max, brilliant design of that cupped wheel. Thanks for sharing
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
Thanks . They are one thing i never trust . One day , i will switch to CBN . 👍
@Darkrif195710 ай бұрын
Your full of information Max none of it is uselless. Thanks for sharing mate
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
No worries 👍
@outsidescrewball10 ай бұрын
Enjoyed
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
Thanks Chuck 👍
@mikediamond152210 ай бұрын
Put a reverse rotation switch on the motor! Mike
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
The wheel retainer nut would unscrew ! 👍
@mikediamond152210 ай бұрын
@@swanvalleymachineshop I know you are smart enougqh to lock that problem down. Great Work! Mike
@MattysWorkshop10 ай бұрын
Gday Max, definitely learnt a lot and definitely no useless information, compound angles can sneak in everywhere and my brain don’t have any mathematical components that’s for sure, great video mate, cheers
@simpleman28310 ай бұрын
When he said Compound Angle back on the Gib strip video, I started looking up how to do compound angles. I wasn't getting anywhere, so I took a piece of paper & drew the gib strip very large. Then I marked the 0.065 measurement across the top.That is when I noticed I needed a right angle from the inside face of the strip to the 0.065. As soon as I did that, I realised the 0.065 was the hypotenuse of a 30,60,90 triangle. I got all of the numbers Max did w/just regular trig. Now what he showed us on today's video is truly compound angles. I have my Machinery's Handbook marked at that section & plan on trying to learn how it works. Notice I said TRY.
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
Cheers Matty 👍
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
Suburban tool have a bit on the compound angle formula . 👍
@paulpipitone835710 ай бұрын
Thanks max
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
No worries 👍
@markedevold126110 ай бұрын
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@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@Randysshop4954810 ай бұрын
Good info on the grinding Max. You may want the check with your electrician and see if you can wire up a drum switch so you can change the rotation of the grinder motor. On some this can be done. Cheers
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
It is a reversible motor but the nut that holds the grinding wheel on can come unscrewed . 👍
@Randysshop4954810 ай бұрын
ok Thanks
@windrk_67549 ай бұрын
My little KO Lee grinder has a reversing switch, and the washer to hold the wheels has a tab fitting into a keyway on the shaft, I assume that prevents wheel friction from backing out the nut. Reversing the wheel definitely helps with different setups, such as getting to both sides of a cutter in one setup... @@swanvalleymachineshop
@billdoodson423210 ай бұрын
Not sure if the tool grinder spindle rotates fast enough for those cutoff disks Max. They tend to like to run over 9,000rpm; I think (with no proof I admit), that if they are running faster, there are internal stresses built up that help the disk to maintain its shape.
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
Those reinforced cut off disks can run up to 12000 rpm , my spindle runs at 4000 rpm . The lower revs are not the problem but over heating them is . That is why alot of companies have banned the 1mm ones . People push too hard , the wheel gets hot & goes into a saucer shape & breaks apart . 👍
@ThePottingShedWorkshop10 ай бұрын
Nice trick of angling the tool up in the vice to grind the relief. I use a multi axis vice on mine (home made) so I can set all the angles independently. I never put top rake or back rake on because as far as I understand it changes the geometry of the groove it cuts. I guess you could, but you'd have to do a bunch of 3D trigonometry to get all the angles right.
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
Top rake will not change the angle the tool cuts . A multi axis vice is still on my wish list ! 👍
@windrk_67549 ай бұрын
Could put this vise on a small tilt table, if you had something handy... Also, using a single lip cutter grinder, I had to do the other side of the tool rotated upside down, but better than freehand.. and the workhead gives you the relief angle (although I needed to add another index mark to measure negative - upside down - relief angles). Great to see things coming together! @@swanvalleymachineshop
@1ginner110 ай бұрын
Hi Max, I would always grind a top rake on my tools, ( Before Sandvik tips), makes for a far better chip form and finish. Best wishes Mal.
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
Thanks . If it was giving a crap finish , i would have gone down that road & sometimes it can if not done . Got away with it this time ! Cheers 👍
@stevewilliams24989 ай бұрын
Max. Gooday. For the second side ... Could you have flipped the tool over in the vice and inclined it down 15° ?
@swanvalleymachineshop9 ай бұрын
I would have had clearance issues with the vice & grinding wheel . 👍
@paulrayner451410 ай бұрын
can't your motor be reversed by different switching? Lots of useful info there Max, Thx👍
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
Yes it can , but the wheel retainer nut may unscrew ! 👍
@ccbproductsmulti-bendaustr320010 ай бұрын
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@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
👍👍👍 Cheers .
@skipdavison768210 ай бұрын
Great info on tool grinding. If you use a universal grinding fixture and set all the relief and cutting angles at once, would it eliminate the need for the secondary grinding you have done? Thanks again.
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
The angles still have to be set with a universal fixture . I plan to make a tool block to hold them at the right angles . 👍
@melgross10 ай бұрын
I recently bought the 5.16” Diamond holder from Eccentric Engineering. I haven’t got a chance to try it yet. Reminds me of my old Williams and Armstrong holders. But while I bought sone ETM Super Cobalt pieces, I’d really rather use carbide. But no matter where I go I can’t find 5/16” square carbide. Nice job. But I’m wondering why you needed to make that rather than to use carbide thread inserts? I haven’t ground a threading tool in maybe two decades.
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
Can you even buy 5/16 square carbide , never come across it . My insert threading tool is too small for a 3.5 mm pitch thread , still have to tool up the larger lathes . 👍
@andrewhowman265910 ай бұрын
No such thing as useless information learner from years of experience Max
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@Rustinox10 ай бұрын
I think your useless information is very useful. Good one, Max.
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
Cheers Rusty 👍
@RicktheRecorder10 ай бұрын
First rate video.
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@Deebo18129 ай бұрын
Great video, I’ve a new to me TOS tool & cutter grinder, and this is very helpful for a beginner like me! Thanks. Out of interest could you say what stones you used to deburr and finish the tool? I’m missing those finishing bits and would like to know what to buy..
@swanvalleymachineshop9 ай бұрын
I just use an old fine grit slip stone . They have to be flat though . Sometimes , i use a precision flat stone to de burr as well . 👍
@Deebo18129 ай бұрын
@@swanvalleymachineshop Awesome, thanks!
@mikediamond152210 ай бұрын
Could you hold a parallel across the front of the wheel and line the tool up with that? Mike
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
No . the table rotation has to be clocked to the wheel then the vice clocked to the table . 👍
@mikediamond152210 ай бұрын
@@swanvalleymachineshop I am not quite sure that we are on the same page or machine here for that matter. I'm a little challenged most of the time, so you need to think about it a little more. Good Work! Mike
@jameshicks6753Ай бұрын
Very usfull, 😊
@swanvalleymachineshopАй бұрын
Thanks 👍
@CraigLYoung10 ай бұрын
Max, when you aligned your vise to the grinder, you used the guard vise the wheel hub. Is that how you do it?
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
Just used the guard to mount the mag base , clocking the vice to the table travel axis . The wheel retainer is also clocked to the table axis . The grinder has multiple swivelling parts that have to be aligned . 👍
@CraigLYoung10 ай бұрын
@@swanvalleymachineshop : OK, thanks for explaining it.
@simpleman28310 ай бұрын
👍 edit: 9/09/23
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
👍👍👍 Thanks
@carlkulyk36610 ай бұрын
That M42 is tough to grind
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
Just a bit ! 👍
@ericparsonage79385 ай бұрын
Any reason you left the spindle extension on?
@swanvalleymachineshop5 ай бұрын
Never had it off . Only realised a couple of months ago that it was an extension ! 👍
@ericparsonage79385 ай бұрын
@@swanvalleymachineshop they come in two lengths for surface grinding.
@RB-yq7qv17 күн бұрын
@swanvalleymachineshop16 күн бұрын
Cheers 👍
@1967kap10 ай бұрын
Hi Max are you full time in your own shop now or do you still have your day job
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
No , still have my day job . 👍
@1967kap9 ай бұрын
Hi Max I don't know how you do it, i have a small machine shop in Adelaide with all the with all the day to day running i don't have time to scratch myself . And you have a day job and a KZfaq channel as well trying to fix machines and make some parts your unreal you would have to be the hardest worker on KZfaq great work mate👍
@swanvalleymachineshop9 ай бұрын
@@1967kap Being a hermit helps ! Later it will ease up as i plan to work full time from my shop one day , then i can have some of my social life back & the wife will see me for more than 10 minutes a day !!!
@andrewclark822510 ай бұрын
When I did my first year of fitting and machining in 1986 we had to grind tools by hand, if you can’t grind a tool you shouldn’t be using it
@bobhudson665910 ай бұрын
Agree. You are taught grinding tools by hand but if you have some equipment that allows you to do it more accurately, why not use it. Max has more skills than most of us have in our left toe. However, if you have skills that Max and most of us don't have, show us how to do it in your videos. Retired mechanic/machinist.
@swanvalleymachineshop9 ай бұрын
I replied by my phone , not sure why it did not come through here . 86 was my final year ! 👍
@andrewclark822510 ай бұрын
When I did my first year of fitting and machining in 1986 we had to grind tools by hand, if you can’t grind a tool you shouldn’t be using it
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
Too bloody true , but bugger grinding M42 by hand with my little grinder !!! 82 was my first year , we learnt a lot about files ! 👍
@jefftheaussie222510 ай бұрын
@@swanvalleymachineshopI remember learning a lot about files in metalwork at school in the early ‘70s. Nowhere near as much as you Max, but handy none the less. Do kids learn stuff like that anymore? A file is a handy thing. I wasn’t and am still not anywhere near good enough at maths to get to your level. Jeff
@andrewclark822510 ай бұрын
You’re in Swan Valley, I was in Geraldton, I did laser alignment, some local but every 3 months we went to Telfer to change out a mill motor,long time ago now
@swanvalleymachineshop10 ай бұрын
@@andrewclark8225 Laser aligning would be interesting , never had anything to do with it . 👍