VW Scirocco Clutch Pedal Stuck To Floor - Master or Slave Cylinder Diagnosis How To DIY Golf A3 Leon

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Күн бұрын

So this is my sister's 2015 VW Scirocco 2.0 TDI with only 39k on the clock and it's done exactly the same as my 5 year old Audi A4 2.0 TDI did to me 8 years ago!
This time I know exactly what to do and therefore my sister won't get ripped off the to tune of £1500 like I did.
To clarify as I mixup my words in the video:
The master cylinder is behind the pedal in the footwell.
The slave cylinder is inside the gearbox.

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@banksiasong Жыл бұрын

Thank you Tolly. Shame about your poor experiences with Harrogate Audi and your local mechanic, but the sharing of your wisdom has helped your sister, and people all around the world. Best wishes to you.

@IAMASPANNER Жыл бұрын

This experience isn’t unique at all unfortunately the industry is plagued with rip off merchants. It’s part of what puts me off doing it for a living. Fortunately since then I’ve been able to help people save money and no longer get ripped off myself having found a proper garage. Really glad to be able to help, thanks for taking the time to comment ☺️

@AminRashid-ds6up Жыл бұрын

@@IAMASPANNER same thing happened to me now - told the garage to check the master and slave. Tells me the only thing wrong is the flywheel and plate. Lo and behold the problem still exists after getting that swapped.

@lclear25 7 ай бұрын

A word of caution, from personal experience. The test to confirm a defective master cylinder shown in this video is not definitive. Happily for Mr. Spanner and his sister, it appears that it was the master cylinder in their case. However, clamping off the flexible hose between the master and the slave cylinders and testing for resistance at the clutch pedal will only confirm a defective master cylinder, if the lines aren't already full of air rather than brake fluid - which could happen if the slave cylinder was defective and the lines had already fully drained out. I know this because I performed this check and then replaced my own master cylinder only for the problem (clutch pedal stuck on the floor) to return and then replaced the slave cylinder, which solved the problem. The best advice I could give anyone with this problem is to check for signs of leaking brake fluid inside the cabin at the footwell under the clutch pedal, indicating a defective master cylinder. If you cant find a leak there and you have a model where the the slave cylinder is inside the transmission, take off the engine under-shield and look for signs of leaking brake fluid on the joint between the engine and the bell-housing and also on the inner absorbent liner material on the undershield. The joint between the transmission bell-housing and the engine is not air/water tight (transmission oil is held in the gearbox part of the transmission only) and leaking brake fluid from a defective slave cylinder will eventually make its way out trough this joint.

@IAMASPANNER 6 ай бұрын

This is great advice, thanks, although the master cylinders don’t always leak out noticeably.

@charlesbarnett2724 Ай бұрын

Very helpful advice. Thank you.

@3Nigerians 11 күн бұрын

Thank you bro. You just save me so much money today. They almost took my head of until I watched your video. God bless you.

@david-bs2ov Жыл бұрын

IAMASPANNER Very sorry for your woes. I too have fallen out of favour with all V.A.G. cars after losing lots of "bangers & mash" when I made the mistake of buying a Fabia R.S. . Despite 6 monthly oil changes it had an enormous appetite for engine oil at 30,000 , and on top of that I learnt late in the day that the semi-auto box was unreliable , prone to trouble and blooming expensive to fix and yes, the main dealers were as much use as a chocolate fireguard. Thanks for this video, it will help me narrow down what my clutch issue might be.

@MJD90345 2 жыл бұрын

Same thing happened to my golf mk6 2lt tdi had the master slave cylinder replaced the car worked great for 5 minutes the problem was the clutch and flywheel which I had replaced now the car works perfectly. Changing the master slave cylinder is a 4 hour job and cost me £450 get your car checked properly before trying this first.

@tonymorse4573 Жыл бұрын

Thank you bro a great informative video. did you replce this yourself, do you know the symptoms before this happens? i'm having issues with my 2.0 a3 8v thanks

@nathanshillaw2245 Жыл бұрын

Very helpful as was told the same I need a new clutch and flywheel on my 2015 vw gtd which would of cost me around £900 to have done, when it was exactly the same problem as this so I won’t be getting ripped off with a new clutch and flywheel now lol. Thanks

@IAMASPANNER Жыл бұрын

Glad to help and stop people getting ripped off like I used to.

@andrewlamb7396 2 жыл бұрын

No mate the master cylinder is on the pedal, slave cylinder on top of the gearbox.

@IAMASPANNER 2 жыл бұрын

I fumbled my words in the video, I think I wrote something in the description.

@jameznm 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers buddy, this has just happened to my neighbours Passat, i didn't think it's the slave as i couldn't see any fluid underneath the gearbox or hear squelching from that are so i'll try your mole grip method. thanks again.

@IAMASPANNER 3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately for us the slave failed too, replaced the master and the car worked for over a month before having to be bled again. Bled twice more only lasted for a day. Slave cylinder was leaking into bell housing but wasn’t yet leaking onto the under-tray. Just had everything replaced today. I hope your neighbours is just the master, good luck!

@ekorean120 2 жыл бұрын

Updates please

@jameznm 2 жыл бұрын

Turned out it was the slave at fault too. I after some head scratching I reverse bled the system and all was good.

@charlesbarnett2724 Ай бұрын

Same issue here on the wife's 2013 vw Tiguan mk1. I suspected it was a servo of some of some sort as the clutch is engaging and car pulling perfectly well.

@KARWANYASSIN 11 ай бұрын

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE INFO.

@mehrezjouini5995 2 жыл бұрын

Great video! Thanks I would love to know, what car manufacturer do you recommend?

@IAMASPANNER 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Mehrez, thank you, you’re welcome! To be honest for me that’s not a straight forward question as cars can be great for different reasons. I’d want my family in a Volvo no matter what year but preferably the larger ones and in terms of reliability I’d buy an old Volvo or any age Honda or Toyota because I don’t believe Volvo are as reliable as they used to be. As a drivers car on the road I’d probably buy a BMW.

@RichLifeStories Жыл бұрын

Thank you sir! I have a MK5 GTI, about a year or two ago I replaced the slave cylinder. So I was getting ready to replace it again but, then I thought, how do I know it's not the master cylinder. Which of course I would rather it be the master cylinder than the slave cylinder haha. I will try this and of course look for leaks as well.

@RichLifeStories Жыл бұрын

Update: So what happened was, I completely destroyed my Clutch. I am running Unitronic stage 2. I believe the car was running the stock clutch. I replaced the Flywheel, upgraded the Clutch to a performance Sach Clutch, replaced the Slave Cylinder just to be safe, and I had to replace the Master Cylinder because it was leaking. I believe my main issues were the Clutch and Master cylinder. I couldn't see the Master Cylinder leak because It wasn't leaking from the outside, It was leaking from the side that was inside the car. I spend a lot of money so I am going to cry myself to sleep while a small violin while it plays in the background haha 😅.

@darrenmorris2653 Жыл бұрын

Great video matey

@brucelee2011 26 күн бұрын

Currently got this problem on my Audi A3 at the moment it goes in tomorrow I'm hoping the flywheel doesn't have to replaced and it's just the master cylinder or i don't get ripped off

@mylesyeoman7799 3 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks for the video i’m having the exact same issue on my 2013 audi a3 8v 2.0 tdi s line, how did you determine the slave was at fault to as i’m dreading that to be the issue on mine, going to try the clamp method tomorrow

@IAMASPANNER 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Myles, unfortunately diagnosed the long way. The master cylinder definitely broke, we replaced it and then a month later the clutch wouldn't disengage. Bled the system again and it only lasted a week. Reverse bled the system to be absolutely sure and it only last 2 days. Couldn't see any fluid leaking out anywhere but in the end bought all the parts and after removing gearbox could immediately see the slave cylinder had been leaking.

@mylesyeoman7799 3 жыл бұрын

@@IAMASPANNER Thanks for you reply i see, i’ve just got mine back had new slave clutch kit and flywheel 900 total with an mot as well does that sound about right

@IAMASPANNER 3 жыл бұрын

@@mylesyeoman7799 Yes that sounds pretty reasonable as at least a full day labour and parts will be approximately half of that bill!

@mrm1ah212 2 жыл бұрын

The issue I'm having is my clutch pedal is very stiff when disengaging and very springy as you lift your foot up to engage. Also an intermittent braking fault where when I brake, the brake pedal starts to sink slowly and the braking power is greatly reduced. It's actually quite dangerous. Service history says recent clutch and DMF with master cylinder replacement. I'm at a loss because the braking problem only happens once in a while so I can't really show the garage and the mechanic says the clutch will just take time to bed in. I've driven brand new cars and the clutch pedal is never this stiff nor is the biting point ever this low. Any help/advice appreciated as you seem to have the most experience with this

@IAMASPANNER 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t have any personal experience with a stiff clutch pedal but a quick Google brings up some common causes. It would be odd for the clutch and flywheel to be replaced without also replacing the slave cylinder. It sounds like there’s wear somewhere else in the system or something hasn’t been fitted properly.

@dans9953 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this informative video. You can trust them at all, trying to rip people off with new clutch and flywheel! In my case Passat 2006 1.9 TDI it was the slave cylinder which had a crack like 2-3cm long and leaking on the tray. I recorded this while pressing clutch. Just wondering why do you say slave needs gearbox removed? There are 2 bolts attaching to the gearbox and metal pipe. Thanks

@IAMASPANNER Жыл бұрын

2.0 TDI the slave cylinder is inside the gearbox. You’ve got the best set up if you have a 1.9 TDI in anything, so much more reliable.

@dans9953 Жыл бұрын

@@IAMASPANNER I see. Didn’t know it is inside the gearbox. What a clever design!;). That would be a bummer indeed but hey sometimes like even recently more often I just want to know everything about the car to be able to fix all and don’t use garage/mechanic as don’t trust them at all. Will keep you updated how it goes:)

@acvideos671 2 жыл бұрын

My seat Ateca clutch pedal just started doing this the other day. Don’t believe I need a new clutch system but I think it’s same issue as this video

@IAMASPANNER 2 жыл бұрын

This one ended up being both cylinders but rule out the master cylinder first because that’s the much easier fix. I can’t believe it’s such a common issue.

@rosco4659 Жыл бұрын

This has happen to our lasses golf plus. I changed the master about 9 month ago so I assume it will be the slave which I've bought today

@rosco4659 Жыл бұрын

Commented a bit premature, I'll the clamp test first. Never thought of doing that, cheers bud.

@MrJesushairdo 2 жыл бұрын

good on you for doing this yourself - just had same clutch pedal to floor issue - do you happen to know if the scirocco was an 8P or 8V engine? my 2015 audi a3 s-line 31500miles looks a little different down at the master cylinder under the bonnet, cheers

@IAMASPANNER 2 жыл бұрын

Hello, I'm not sure about the difference in engine. The car in this video is a 65 plate 2.0 TDI with 180bhp. I don't know if you've seen my other video but I recorded doing the job if you want to take a look: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fclde82plqjXmGQ.html

@MrJesushairdo 2 жыл бұрын

@@IAMASPANNER cool, yeah I've seen the other vid, great work, will need to try and get in about it a bit better, tricky getting the silver foil/fabric out of the way, thanks for reply, ps I think I've had enough of VAG now as well

@sidineyperceguino6850 2 жыл бұрын

My audio S3 same problem any one help me! About to fixe how much??? Thanks

@comradebismarck Жыл бұрын

Changed the master cylinder still sinking to the floor what could be the issue? Checked the gearbox and clutch no leaks underneath. What could cause the sinking of the pedal? The car is a 2017 B8 passat with only 92k miles

@IAMASPANNER Жыл бұрын

It could just be really stubborn to bleed fully. Have you tried pressure bleeding? On a BMW I did a while back I ended up reverse vacuum bleeding which finally worked. I did upload a video for it.

@BigSaulo 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Boss. I got an mk1 Audi TT for cheap because it had a few issue. This was one of them.

@IAMASPANNER 2 жыл бұрын

Hope it’s all working out for you 👍

@ls6king316 7 ай бұрын

Mine just did it three days ago when I went over a bump in the rain puddle went all the way to the floor and never came back up Volkswagen Golf R

@harry-xg7lw Жыл бұрын

Hey bro i’ve got the same issue after i replaced my gearbox. Clutch worked fine before i replaced it but now the clutch pedal just slams to the floor. I’ve tried bleeding the clutch but maybe i’m not doing it right?

@IAMASPANNER Жыл бұрын

Did you replace the slave cylinder while you were doing the job? Have you got access to a pressure bleeder? I found this system particularly hard to bleed.

@nmaskew 3 жыл бұрын

I have a similar problem, but I can't see fluid anywhere and I don't think I've lost fluid ether... I've just had it towed to the garage im hoping its just the part behind the clutch peddle.

@IAMASPANNER 3 жыл бұрын

You wouldn’t see any fluid whether it’s the master or slave cylinder, master cylinder breaks internally and the slave cylinder leaks into the gearbox. Both actually failed on this car.

@asifmalik372 2 жыл бұрын

@@IAMASPANNER If the slave cylinder is leaking into the gearbox would you not have to top up the Dot 4 Fluid in the Brake Fluid/Clutch Fluid reservoir?

@IAMASPANNER 2 жыл бұрын

@@asifmalik372 if it’s leaking substantially enough yes but if it were leaking that bad chances are you’d already be struggling to drive it.

@dans9953 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this informative video. I’m my case Passat 2006 1.9 TDI it was the slave cylinder which had a crack like 2-3cm long and leaking on the tray. I recorded this while pressing clutch. Just wondering why do you say slave needs gearbox removed? There are 2 bolts attaching to the gearbox and metal pipe. Thanks

@rectify2003 Жыл бұрын

Thats why people hate and dont trust many mechanics When you find a good one, treat them well

@rathermelc 3 жыл бұрын

on my 2008 jetta sometimes I cant push my clutch pedal down. What would cause this?

@IAMASPANNER 3 жыл бұрын

Is something getting in the way up there in the footwell? I don’t know a reason for the pedal not operating if it’s working normally the rest of the time

@cuthbert95 3 жыл бұрын

My golf mk7 has just done that exact same thing but whilst I was on the dual carriageway. My clutch has the same movement as the one in the video but I’ve had signs previous days of the clutch just not being responsive/ not biting. Do you think it could me the master cylinder or do you think the clutch has gone

@IAMASPANNER 3 жыл бұрын

It sounds the same as this car, it'll be the master cylinder or slave cylinder although on this car it turned out to be both! After changing the master cylinder (which had definitely broken) and bleeding many many times the symptoms were as you're experiencing. Because the slave cylinder requires removing the gearbox it makes sense to change the clutch and flywheel also.

@cuthbert95 3 жыл бұрын

@@IAMASPANNER thanks for replying mate. My cars done just over 95k but I have never worn the car to the ground as you’d say. Cars currently in the garage now and I’m awaiting to see what they say either way I best get saving up haha

@frederikgalanda8620 2 жыл бұрын

@@cuthbert95 what was problem in the end Master cilinder ?

@cuthbert95 2 жыл бұрын

@@frederikgalanda8620 got a new clutch and fly wheel cost me about £2000 all together with a new set of front springs

@frederikgalanda8620 2 жыл бұрын

@@cuthbert95 thats an expencive clutch what car is that ?

@garydeandeery 2 жыл бұрын

Guy pedal went to the floor the garage said £1200 to fix and £140 inspection So I’m helping people new slave cylinder was £140 and £45 per hour labour job done the old guy is over the moon

@originaltrilogy1 2 жыл бұрын

How do you bleed the system after replacing the cylinder?

@IAMASPANNER 2 жыл бұрын

Undo the bleed nipple on the slave cylinder on the gearbox and sometimes gravity is enough but it's best to use a vacuum bleeder.

@sizah185 Жыл бұрын

My accord does this but only when its in reverse and not all the time, could it be the same issue

@IAMASPANNER Жыл бұрын

It could just need a bleed on your car, I couldn’t possibly guess the cause.

@Mr78626 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 2.0 scirocco r and on full throttle clutch pedal falls really low still useable and changes gear etc but really low and have to put foot under the pedal to push it back to normal then its fine. Had the car 2 days is remapped etc decatted i will be changing back to original cat tomorrow

@IAMASPANNER 2 жыл бұрын

Hope you get sorted

@Mr78626 Жыл бұрын

@@IAMASPANNER changed the concentric slave cylinder and still same issue

@IAMASPANNER Жыл бұрын

@@Mr78626 did you change the master as well? They don’t bleed very well either, I had to pressure bleed the car in the video.

@johnmorris8194 2 жыл бұрын

i have a 2013 vw passat b7 2,0 tdi clutch pedal to the floor, fixed for 1200 flywheel clutch slave etc, only 51k on clock 2019 , 9k miles later just gone out same thing again. waiting for quote for parts, labour in garage .

@IAMASPANNER 2 жыл бұрын

I gave up with VWs as personal daily cars a long time ago. Years after this happened to me I saw it was a common fault on many brand new VAG group cars with many needing fixing before 10k miles. I hope you get sorted for a reasonable price.

@johnmorris8194 2 жыл бұрын

leak inside gear box master cylinder 582 plus 40 for a 3 mile recovery, 622 total, if it goes again think i,ll just smash it up lol.

@IAMASPANNER 2 жыл бұрын

@@johnmorris8194 which is £582? The leak in the gearbox or the master cylinder? Master cylinder should only be 2 hours labour and £40 for the part.

@rorymurphy76 11 ай бұрын

My 2017 Passats clutch stuck to floor last night, taught clutch gone but when I pulled back up was fine, could be similar!?Only 70 k on clock

@IAMASPANNER 10 ай бұрын

Any leaks anywhere?

@t-bone3306 3 ай бұрын

Did you figure this out in the end?

@JamesMcHugh94 Жыл бұрын

So I've clamped the pipe and no change in the function of my clutch, so it's master cylinder instead of slave? Any help appreciated

@IAMASPANNER Жыл бұрын

If the pipe is definitely clamped and you still have a floppy pedal then that would suggest the master cylinder is faulty although it doesn’t necessarily mean the slave cylinder has no issue at all.

@JamesMcHugh94 Жыл бұрын

@@IAMASPANNER thanks, just wanted to make sure. I'll change it out and see the story anyway. Thanks for this video and the one showing the change, huge help

@IAMASPANNER Жыл бұрын

@@JamesMcHugh94 glad to help James 👍

@1gazzarobbo 3 жыл бұрын

did you have any resistance after clamping the hose ??

@IAMASPANNER 3 жыл бұрын

No, which proved the master cylinder was faulty but after changing the master cylinder and the car working for a while the slave cylinder failed too!

@1gazzarobbo 3 жыл бұрын

@@IAMASPANNER hey mate another question if you dont mind ,was there any leaks on the master cylinder at all ?ive got mine off and seems very slack but no sighns of leaks ,also were does the little rubber oring sit that you show in the new pack from vw ?? thanks

@martinkingangi8083 9 ай бұрын

I have just had same problem with mine.. clamped the pipe and clutch feel pedal better even after removing the clamp.. any ideas... though i have suspicion might be air ingree through the bottom of the bleed nipple... can i replace just that??..thank u

@lonewolf031 Жыл бұрын

I keep having to bleed the clutch would that be the master cylinder or the slave?

@IAMASPANNER Жыл бұрын

It could be either or both, you’ll have to test them.

@mazambeliqbal3487 2 жыл бұрын

volkswagen golf 2.0 diesel 2016 clutch pedal stuck to the floor but when I start pump the pedal and go back to normal and when I stop driving next morning happened again what can it be please

@IAMASPANNER 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like air in the system. Bleeding could solve it but the air had to get there somehow, one of the cylinders may be on the way out.

@alexcovaci24 2 жыл бұрын

I got the same problem and I had changed the master cylinder and blended out but probably not enough… have you fix your problem and what was it? Thanks

@IAMASPANNER 2 жыл бұрын

@@alexcovaci24 in the end both the master and slave cylinder were faulty.

@simontist Жыл бұрын

Did you ever find out what was wrong with the clutch? My Skoda is doing the exact same thing (pedal is bad after it's parked, gets better after pump it a few times)

@maiwandsahar5887 5 ай бұрын

Thanks alot

@Weasel_Meat 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@IAMASPANNER 3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome

@leemitchell2429 3 ай бұрын

Using this crimping method it looks like it’s the slave that’s knackered 😢 was pretty sure it was master at first as I could see fluid around the front seal. 🏦😩

@IAMASPANNER 2 ай бұрын

To be fair it could be both? Hope you got sorted…

@garydeandeery 2 жыл бұрын

Iv seen people cable tie the piston rod back to the pedal lol

@jamesmc1272 2 жыл бұрын

The starter motor failed because the car had been moved by selecting first gear and cranking the starter, its what garages do.

@IAMASPANNER 2 жыл бұрын

I hadn’t thought of this, I’ve never bought from a dealer since, avoid Sytner Audi in Harrogate, well, avoid dealers altogether! No idea why the boot was wet through too when I collected the car.

@nikosuoa 3 жыл бұрын

Wow, to have such problems so early in a car's life...

@IAMASPANNER 3 жыл бұрын

Second time in the family as well, put me off VAG cars, completely ridiculous

@jameznm 3 жыл бұрын

@@IAMASPANNER it happened to my mrs Vectra 1.9 she just came off m5 at Bristol but the car has 170k on it lol.

@maxfrere4871 3 ай бұрын

Now doin one 😂

@goodv1b Жыл бұрын

Suddenly one morning I found my clutch pedal flat to the floor on my Volkswagon Transporter 6 speed manual. I believe it is likely to be a master cylinder or slave cylinder. But first I have to find them! I tried to follow this video, but the Transporter is different. Any tips greatly appreciated! Here is my video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f9V8Y9VkuNLLin0.html This video shows my clutch problem and shows me trying to find the master and slave cylinders.