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Swindon's Most Dangerous Street. The Old Town Tunnel.

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Paul Whitewick

Paul Whitewick

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We took a trip to Swindon to take a look at Swindon's Other Railway. The Midland and South Western Junction Railway ran a north south route perpendicular to the main GWR Line. Its original intention was to cut a tunnel under Swindon's old town and join up to Brunel's main line, and then head north.
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@Alexasdfghjkl99
@Alexasdfghjkl99 4 жыл бұрын
This is like a BBC 4 programme, the production quality, research and presenting is top drawer.
@egalf
@egalf 4 жыл бұрын
The videos are really nice and informative, but isn't it a bit sad that they can do it so well with a probably rather small budget while the BBC literally has huge amounts of money at their hands? Says a lot about traditional media these days...
@davidf6326
@davidf6326 4 жыл бұрын
Apart from when he says 'bereft with problems', while actually meaning 'beset with problems'' :-) Excellent otherwise, though.
@traitle87
@traitle87 4 жыл бұрын
it actually does
@piecekeeper5317
@piecekeeper5317 3 жыл бұрын
@@egalf The BBC is parasitic propaganda organisation
@UrbanFantasist
@UrbanFantasist 3 жыл бұрын
Better - as it doesn't pad out the content to make a full 60 minutes - and also no pointless re-enactments
@davestrong4487
@davestrong4487 4 жыл бұрын
Swindon born and raised... I don't know if that's good or bad but I don't care, I love my town and its history.
@harleyplatt6755
@harleyplatt6755 4 жыл бұрын
I live in Swindon and it’s class😍
@rhysmarshall7220
@rhysmarshall7220 4 жыл бұрын
Harley Platt same lad I’m from north hbu
@obitouchiha4842
@obitouchiha4842 4 жыл бұрын
I love Swindon I’m living in it right now I love this town
@riccardoventuraleone5908
@riccardoventuraleone5908 4 жыл бұрын
Like how youtube is choosing videos by your town now
@DTCh1ms
@DTCh1ms 4 жыл бұрын
I'm from Swindon... ngl its shit
@fordlandau
@fordlandau 4 жыл бұрын
Your wife is remarkable. She's a great asset to your work. Plus shes very glam. Excellent.
@davetreadwell
@davetreadwell 4 жыл бұрын
As a Swindonian, this was really interesting! I’d clocked you we’re fairly local, from other videos, but would love to see more on Swindon things like this (and the mechanics institute and its various sagas through the last 20 years!)
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave. We try and get far afield as you'll see from last years videos (Pre-Lockdown). You'll have to go even further back to see the MSWJR ones!
@anthonymcdonnell6615
@anthonymcdonnell6615 4 жыл бұрын
@@pwhitewick there is also the tunnel under the Dingle Liverpool which was the only tunnel on the Liverpool Overhead railway, the tunnel collapsed in 2012 and has now been repaired.
@oliverbutterfield9844
@oliverbutterfield9844 4 жыл бұрын
This video popped up randomly in my feed today. Not what I normally watch, but I thought it might be interesting. I sure hope it’s just coincidence, given I live about 2 mins walk from Queens Park. Otherwise I might have to go and make myself a tinfoil hat...
@olly5764
@olly5764 4 жыл бұрын
In terms of distance, Swindon was rather closer to Bristol than it was to London, but the GWR route got steaper beyond Swindon and needed locos with Smaller driving Wheels (Smaller wheels mean a loco better for climbing hills) and while Swindon was rather 'off centre' in terms of distance, the locos were swapped here, and the idea was, it was as many wheel revolutions on the bigger locs from London, as it was on the smaller wheeled locos from Bristol, so the locos for each end of the line would wear out at the same rate.
@2H80vids
@2H80vids 4 жыл бұрын
What a fascinating comment. I've never heard that explanation and, I must admit, I thought Brunel's main line was straight and flat. Is it not referred-to as the "billiard table"?
@christophernoble6810
@christophernoble6810 4 жыл бұрын
It is so far as Swindon, but not thereafter.
@TheEulerID
@TheEulerID 4 жыл бұрын
Besides being the chosen for the centre for locomotive engineering, Swindon was also infamous for an appalling refreshment caterer that had the franchise at Swindon. This is what Isambard Kingdom Brunel, the engineer for the line, wrote in a letter :- "Dear sir I assure you that Mr Player was wrong in supposing that I thought you purchased inferior coffee. I thought I said to him that I was surprised you should buy such poor roasted corn. I did not believe you had such a thing as coffee in the place; I am certain I never tasted any. I have long ceased to make complaints at Swindon. I avoid taking anything there if I can help it."
@JimTLonW6
@JimTLonW6 4 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised (not) that they don't have this letter on display in the coffee shop on Swindon Station today...
@neilbain8736
@neilbain8736 4 жыл бұрын
A masterpiece of the English language,
@wingedfinger
@wingedfinger 4 жыл бұрын
More famous for building the fastest steam train ever created
@joshuakelly8103
@joshuakelly8103 4 жыл бұрын
@@wingedfinger I was under the impression the A4's were all built at Doncaster Plant by LNER, is there a Great Western train which holds an unofficial record which beats the Mallard?
@darylcheshire1618
@darylcheshire1618 4 жыл бұрын
Can’t be worse than the coffee at the Railway Refreshment Room at Warragul Station.
@pyhead9916
@pyhead9916 2 жыл бұрын
Like myself, I love the way you integrate maps, historical records and ground investigation into topics. It's a rare skill these days as most people think Google has the answer to everything and do a few google searches then declare they know the truth. You are true historians.
@shirleyellis9708
@shirleyellis9708 3 жыл бұрын
I spent a lot of time in queens park. In the late 60s, it has changed heaps. We left Swindon in mid-1971.🇦🇺 so thanks for the video. enjoyed it.
@robinoconnor1203
@robinoconnor1203 4 жыл бұрын
A few years ago I met a Landscaping contracter that had carried out some work in Queens park, possibly around the time Tunnel House was built. He claimed they had uncovered the tunnel entrance, he said they filled it in and built the ground to a higher level. The tunnel at Marlborough was open a few years ago, I walked through it, at one point they grew Mushrooms in it.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Robin, I'd love to know if they actually constructed a portal. Yes the Marlborough one was part of a huge Bat sanctuary project I believe.
@chrisoffer3074
@chrisoffer3074 4 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Marlborough ,my friends and myself when we were younger we used to play in the old tunnel you could walk all the way through it.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 4 жыл бұрын
@@chrisoffer3074 I am VERY jealous.
@chrisoffer3074
@chrisoffer3074 4 жыл бұрын
@@pwhitewick just another thing to say by the southern entrnce of Marlborough tunnel there used to be a temporary siding/station in ww2 where they unloaded ammunition to store in savernake forest . If you go down a road called the grand avenue in the forest you can see remains of the bunkers where ammunition was stored
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 4 жыл бұрын
@@chrisoffer3074 ah yes we featured that in another video many moons ago
@HenrysAdventures
@HenrysAdventures 4 жыл бұрын
Another interesting video! I like how the safest house in Swindon is in the most dangerous street!
@ewythr
@ewythr 4 жыл бұрын
My dad was a builder and he told me about the tunnel when we visited Queen's Park. I think he had to do some work there and up in Old Town that related to it. He also did some work on or around the skew bridge that carried the M&SWJ across the Wilts & Berks Canal. He would have loved this video. Thanks for making it.
@exileinderby51
@exileinderby51 4 жыл бұрын
Went to Swindon many times when I worked round there, including the infamous Magic Roundabout but this is a new one on me. Thanks for yet another piece of lost history.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 4 жыл бұрын
We actually went over the roundabout to get there. Left and left, thankfully.
@jaynedavis4667
@jaynedavis4667 4 жыл бұрын
I've lived in Swindon for 60 years, I knew about the land slippage, but never heard of a tunnel under old town!
@Jacob-ct7hc
@Jacob-ct7hc 4 жыл бұрын
@@jaynedavis4667 There are some tunnels that can be accessed (Not by public though) through Villets house and the Goddard arms as well. Originally i beleive they connected through to Coate water but as far as i know they have been filled in/caved in along the route.
@saphiremeson507
@saphiremeson507 4 жыл бұрын
this is so creepy... I live in Swindon and this just came up in my recommended
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 4 жыл бұрын
Guessing it's linked to a Google account. Perhaps local searches you have done told Google your interests. All a tad odd I agree!
@redsed1565
@redsed1565 4 жыл бұрын
Are u blind? They trach ur every move via phone, gps, pc and even ur mind!
@ollo3934
@ollo3934 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@danw9190
@danw9190 4 жыл бұрын
Yep same
@TheLovelybbe
@TheLovelybbe 3 жыл бұрын
It's the algorithm of the Internet the Internet knows a lot about people that's why people can take your identity if they really tried I got recommended this since I was looking for places in that area because I'm planning on moving outside of London
@TheClockwise770
@TheClockwise770 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much again for yet another wonderful glimpse into Britain's lost tunnels. Keep up the excellent work Paul and Rebecca .
@iankemp1131
@iankemp1131 4 жыл бұрын
Great research here. Fascinating to hear of a planned tunnel actually being abandoned completely because they couldn't solve the civil engineering problems. Fareham Tunnel in Hampshire had similar problems and landslips caused several closures. They even built a "geological avoiding line" which experience showed did not actually avoid the problem. In 1967 the avoiding line was closed and they build houses on top of the cutting, like Hunt Street in Swindon. Surprise, surprise, they later encountered subsidence problems. The original line survives, with a very wide shallow sided cutting stabilised by trees.
@dickdastardly5534
@dickdastardly5534 3 жыл бұрын
You guys turn out some fascinating videos on engineering history, really good work. Thanks for bringing this to the internet 👍🏻
@elizabethbanks3484
@elizabethbanks3484 4 жыл бұрын
I was born in Swindon and lived as a young child in Dunbarton Terrace which is the road next to Hunt Street. We had to move out due to the house land sliding in to Queens park. I found this video very interesting and love local history. Anymore on Swindon would be great 😁
@simontay4851
@simontay4851 4 жыл бұрын
Did the house have to be demolished in the end or was it safely stablised.
@paulmitchell8539
@paulmitchell8539 4 жыл бұрын
@@simontay4851 There were 6 houses on Dunbarton Terrace and numbers 5 & 6 had to be demolished. We lived at number 5. This was in 1983.
@simonmorris7485
@simonmorris7485 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video, thanks! I used to live on Hunt street, I can see my old house behind the Tunnel House in the picture. Lost a bit of our garden in the early 80s to a landslide. I don't know if it's because of the poorly filled in tunnel but you could really feel the vibrations from the house if a lorry went by outside.
@smiffy1947
@smiffy1947 4 жыл бұрын
I’m sure I read somewhere many years ago that the reason that the GWR placed the works at Swindon was due to the fact that it was the point on the line where the very flat section of the railway from London (Brunel’s billiard table) changed to the more hilly route onwards to Bristol. Hence it was a good place to change from fast locomotives with larger wheels to ones with smaller wheels that were better able to cope with the increased gradients west of Swindon.
@gregruthen3844
@gregruthen3844 4 жыл бұрын
Found this very interesting as when I was 7 we used to travel from the Newport St Station down to Southampton in carriages with no corridor. Will follow as I have an interest in Canals and railways in fact various structures.
@derrylgeorge
@derrylgeorge 4 жыл бұрын
I lived just across the road for 4 years and always wondered why they called it 'Tunnel House', and now I know! Anyway, really interesting and well-made video and there's a nice piece about you in the Evening Adver today.
@Mitch-Hendren
@Mitch-Hendren 4 жыл бұрын
Your information just gets better and better. yet another quality video about somewhere i knew nothing about. thought i knew my railways but just shows you're always learning. well done again guys.
@moelatmani4898
@moelatmani4898 3 жыл бұрын
Mate definitely you need to try your luck in national geographic The way you speak and the voice you have and the personality what you have It sounds like you made for this
@bradarmstrong3952
@bradarmstrong3952 3 ай бұрын
Great work! Top notch production, and very engaging presentation!
@RetroRatz
@RetroRatz 4 жыл бұрын
Really interesting! Love our home town and it's history! Great job guys! There is a secret smaller tunnel, off Dean Street. It was access for the workers to get into the factory. Interesting tunnel.
@purelight2025
@purelight2025 4 жыл бұрын
where exactly? can you still see it!?
@harrynewnham6410
@harrynewnham6410 4 жыл бұрын
Swindon is shit how come you love it and love living there 😂😂😂 wtf it’s utter shit shit night life shit shops nah shit
@taffman1
@taffman1 4 жыл бұрын
it's not a secret, it's on the Two Chain plans, you can purchase these online for a few quid a sheet.
@RetroRatz
@RetroRatz 4 жыл бұрын
@@harrynewnham6410 good job I sleep at night and don't like retail therapy then 👍
@michaelpilling9659
@michaelpilling9659 4 жыл бұрын
Another piece of fascinating history. A great film - love the maps.
@andykopgod
@andykopgod 4 жыл бұрын
How lovely did Rebecca look in that dress 🤗❤
@alejandrayalanbowman367
@alejandrayalanbowman367 4 жыл бұрын
she is the only reason I subscribed.
@stevecampbell7589
@stevecampbell7589 4 жыл бұрын
There is a couple of old railway tunnels near my house. One of them recently dug up now, however, one is still there in Gill Bridge Park on the banks of the Wear in Sunderland
@GiacomodellaSvezia
@GiacomodellaSvezia 3 жыл бұрын
Gee, I wonder why I like this channel so much. ;-)
@Tobeshadow
@Tobeshadow 4 жыл бұрын
Super video as always, didn't know about this one! Thanks for another great bit of history!
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@thespectre717
@thespectre717 4 жыл бұрын
Also Swindon born and raised thank you for this :)
@bubbamisty9862
@bubbamisty9862 4 жыл бұрын
Another Swindonian here... fantastic video! Thank you!
@robertdonaldson6584
@robertdonaldson6584 4 жыл бұрын
Great story on a dangerous venue from yesteryear. Good that you found a reliable Cartographer.
@TWX1138
@TWX1138 4 жыл бұрын
7:22 Rebecca Whitewick is clearly the fashionable one in the family.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 4 жыл бұрын
Obviously.
@hairyairey
@hairyairey 4 жыл бұрын
Dressing up during covid-19, is it the day for putting your bins out then?
@TheEulerID
@TheEulerID 4 жыл бұрын
"My glamorous assistant" except, I suspect, that would not go down well...
@annother3350
@annother3350 4 жыл бұрын
John - what's bloody covid got anything to do with it?!
@davidf6326
@davidf6326 4 жыл бұрын
@@annother3350 It's called a joke
@garryhammond7616
@garryhammond7616 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Many thanks for all the hard work you put in, which culminates in these fascinating videos.
@engl4nd3r24
@engl4nd3r24 Жыл бұрын
Great video thank you for posting this...👍
@jameskrell4392
@jameskrell4392 4 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic stuff and at one time would have been on mainstream TV. I won't go into what the channels are full of now.
@MolloyPolloy
@MolloyPolloy 4 жыл бұрын
The production on this is phenomenal. Well done. Super video and you've a new subscriber.
@dickiedollop
@dickiedollop 4 жыл бұрын
What a splendid assistant young Rebecca makes looking very glamorous indeed 😉
@moistywoisty
@moistywoisty 4 жыл бұрын
I live in Swindon so it was kinda weird watching a semi-viral video about it. Cool video though 👍
@spicybecca4899
@spicybecca4899 4 жыл бұрын
well damn. all this time i was looking for the tunnel on maps and i was looking on the wrong end! liverd in swindon my whole life and am quite a fan of the M&SWJR (earlier SM&AR) lovely video, thank you
@CiderTalbotToo
@CiderTalbotToo 4 жыл бұрын
I have lived in Swindon since 1996 and seen it change a lot. I'm really fascinated by the history of the town. I didn't know about this thank you for sharing. Oh and I have subbed 😎👍
@harrynewnham6410
@harrynewnham6410 4 жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for any one who lives in Swindon it’s shit the night life is shit and the shops I hate it so much 😡
@bullettube9863
@bullettube9863 4 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised, since it so wet, that they didn't turn the railway tunnel into a canal tunnel! But from what I've read, they encountered a band of clay that they hadn't known was there. I'm just amazed that a genius like Brunell didn't figure out a solution, after all he and his father built a tunnel under the Thames river.
@paulanstey7889
@paulanstey7889 4 жыл бұрын
I maybe wrong, but they were trying to connect to brunnel's line, not the other way around
@taffman1
@taffman1 4 жыл бұрын
Brunel did not survey this proposed line. It was going to be built by another company.
@donohoe71
@donohoe71 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting video, brilliantly edited. Thanks for posting
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ethan
@lindamccaughey6669
@lindamccaughey6669 4 жыл бұрын
Loved that thanks. It is so pretty there for hiking even without tunnels to chase. Thank you so much for taking me along. Take care
@stonehengus
@stonehengus 2 жыл бұрын
How interesting. Having worked in Pipers Way, Swindon for 22 years, I never knew about these railways and tunnels. Thanks.
@nigelt1218
@nigelt1218 4 жыл бұрын
It is a great video. I live near Swindon, almost on where the M&SWJ used to run. I was aware of some of the history and locations of the tunnel, but had never drawn it all out. You must have my "round tuit" as I never have the time! As mentioned by Ian, the planning department must have some detailed ground surveys, provided as part of the planning applications.
@ColinH1973
@ColinH1973 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting programme about a non-existent structure! Great delivery and top marks for investigative content. Thanks Paul and Rebecca 👍
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Colin, very kind.
@alistairshaw3206
@alistairshaw3206 4 жыл бұрын
Great video again Paul and Rebecca. They built railways everywhere, sometimes with no prior thought of, can we get through, or will it make money. I've only been to Swindon once, drove round the famous magic roundabout and stayed at the Menzies hotel for one night. One of my classic bikes was given a Swindon number, VMR.
@timalmondvideo
@timalmondvideo 3 жыл бұрын
I live not far from Newport St, and this was fascinating.
@EandEFC
@EandEFC 4 жыл бұрын
Walked the line I think the day before you did the tunnel visit its a great line with so much to see, never knew about the tunnel so well done again great stuff.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers. We actually filmed this the day we did Sapperton!
@ManicJackk
@ManicJackk 3 жыл бұрын
I have lived in swindon all my life and I never knew this! Great video!
@Parkendnorth
@Parkendnorth 4 жыл бұрын
I live in Swindon and never knew there was plans for a huge tunnel shame it didn’t work out great video guys
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@neilfurby555
@neilfurby555 3 жыл бұрын
Superb content and production....brilliant work. Thanks.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Neil
@jedderski
@jedderski 4 жыл бұрын
I live in Swindon and I never knew it was so fascinating
@hansshell6792
@hansshell6792 4 жыл бұрын
OMG .. I live in Swindon .. and never knew this .. what a gem of information, thank you
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Barry. A pleasure
@walkingtheboogie
@walkingtheboogie 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. When there is a road number, that it's prioritised over road names. They would space for both at the scale you had the map at but they don't do that. Personally I would display both. I work in mapping and addressing, hence my interest the maps, amongst everything else.
@141Lav
@141Lav 3 жыл бұрын
Hello I just found your channel I like it very much. I will catch up with some of your videos you and your lady are doing a wonderful job bringing us all these different places I wish you luck for any future endeavours.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome Lee. 196 videos to get through!!
@MultiMidden
@MultiMidden 4 жыл бұрын
Despite the problems they had there Swindon Old Town has a network of old (smugglers) tunnels running underneath it. Some bits are still accessible I think from the cellars of some of the buildings.
@Jacob-ct7hc
@Jacob-ct7hc 4 жыл бұрын
Villets house and The Goddard arms. Also in the town centre there are 2 large round concrete structures that are access point. The computer museum and other shops nearby can access the tunnels near the Wyvern theatre, they come in the car park just below the Theatre.
@gazz9559
@gazz9559 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jacob-ct7hc I work under villets house on occasion. Loads of shut off tunnels
@1chish
@1chish 4 жыл бұрын
Natives of Wiltshire were called 'Moonrakers' especially those engaged in smuggling and other nefarious activities around Swindon and there is a pub named after them. Old Swindonians were called 'Moonies'.
@mileshigh1321
@mileshigh1321 4 жыл бұрын
More interesting history! The maps nicely bring it together too!
@spennykcn
@spennykcn 2 жыл бұрын
Swindon! I always wanted to visit. It’s the hometown of one of my favorite bands, XTC.
@MrKen-wy5dk
@MrKen-wy5dk 4 жыл бұрын
Sitting here in Houston, TX, I have no idea why I watched this. Never heard of Swindon, never been to England and never will. It must be Coviditis settling into my brain.
@wastelandwanderer9491
@wastelandwanderer9491 3 жыл бұрын
I was lucky enough to walk through Marlborough tunnel, when i was at school in the early 90s.
@TheCaptnHammer
@TheCaptnHammer 2 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel and I love it! Great editing and I like the cuts with your wife where you pop in and out. The content and editing is so good! Thanks to you both from Texas!
@paulmckinder3082
@paulmckinder3082 4 жыл бұрын
Great video I live in Swindon but knew nothing about this so thank you both
@JamJam-yw2ey
@JamJam-yw2ey 4 жыл бұрын
Very good explanation and good little documentation, this gentleman has produce .. please carry do more videos .. thank you .
@sheilastallard
@sheilastallard 4 жыл бұрын
You pair really do your research. Excellent video again!!..............Keep Safe!! xx
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! You too Sheila.
@charlesachurch7265
@charlesachurch7265 3 жыл бұрын
Great presentation thanks xxx.
@Loagun
@Loagun 3 жыл бұрын
Being a viewer from Canada (the 'New World), the more and more of these videos I see of all the infrastructure and buildings buried under Europe (the 'Old World) the more it looks like it's all been rebuilt over post apocalyptic ruins.
@tamlandipper29
@tamlandipper29 3 жыл бұрын
We prefer the term rolling apocalypse.
@Loagun
@Loagun 3 жыл бұрын
@@tamlandipper29 .... I've never heard that term before. I like it.
@ArferNower
@ArferNower 4 жыл бұрын
Good work very enjoyable...and yes I've subscribed
@Sim0nTrains
@Sim0nTrains 4 жыл бұрын
That was a brilliant video, I honestly thought when you shouted for Rebecca, I thought at that Rebecca wasn't going to show up lol!
@neilbain8736
@neilbain8736 4 жыл бұрын
That was a nice surprise to see you suddenly popping up with a new video. The sun's definitely brought you out! Oddly enough I was walking through boggy land today thinking of Swamp Castle from Monty Python and the Holy Grail. The Sun and Planets are all I know about Swindon - I've cycled around them many years ago, so this was very interesting to see.
@Oggybasher
@Oggybasher 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, unaware of the existence of this proposed tunnel until your video. Our thanks to Rebecca for her informative comments and appearances in the video while trying to keep you “on track”.
@hoover517
@hoover517 4 жыл бұрын
Another brilliant video. keep up the great work.
@davecampbell5734
@davecampbell5734 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Paul and Rebecca thanks for another informative video in your inimitable style.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 4 жыл бұрын
Our pleasure!
@onbluehorses
@onbluehorses 4 жыл бұрын
Another story about something I never knew! You guys should write a book! 😊
@shaunwest3612
@shaunwest3612 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Paul and Rebecca, very interesting,the tunnel caused a lot of subsidence I should think on a lot of properties, Rebecca looking rather glamorous 😉👍👌
@DOCTORDROTT
@DOCTORDROTT Жыл бұрын
I lived at 56 Bath Road Old Town Swindon, tunnels everywhere in this area . Lots where the works used to be too
@StephenGoddard-MiisterSpiice
@StephenGoddard-MiisterSpiice 4 жыл бұрын
Well presented and informative great work!
@TheAntiChris77
@TheAntiChris77 4 жыл бұрын
Great and informative video as always guys, thank you for covering the Swindon's abandoned tunnel. I'm very local and lived in Hunt Street for a while (the stable end, not the crumbly end). I currently live near to where the southern portal would have been. I love the history of the railway around here and often cycle the old line north through Cricklade or south to Marlborough.
@jasonmccormick9944
@jasonmccormick9944 4 жыл бұрын
Where is the southern portal exactly, nothing obvious to see and can't see on any maps, did it just run to the track from Marlborough Road side?
@TheAntiChris77
@TheAntiChris77 4 жыл бұрын
@@jasonmccormick9944 it never actually existed as they did not get that far before abandoning the project and taking the route around the south and west side of the hill. But if it had it would have been around where the station stood at the end of what is today, Signal Way.
@shawndayvis6169
@shawndayvis6169 2 жыл бұрын
Love this channel...new subscriber from annapolis, maryland. Just found you 2 today !!! Fascinating !!! Keep up the great work , both of you.
@KevinSiyuan
@KevinSiyuan 4 жыл бұрын
thats quite a bit of the town's history to digest, great sharing 👍 I am sure the town is a huge challenge for urban planners
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin, certainly this part of the town yes.
@KevinSiyuan
@KevinSiyuan 4 жыл бұрын
@@ianhalsall-fox thanks for sharing! when there's tunnel there's trouble yea? haha
@derekmills5394
@derekmills5394 4 жыл бұрын
Regarding Swindon street names being towns on the GWR line, I presume many of those moving to Swindon to work for GWR would have come from those same towns!
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 4 жыл бұрын
Very true Derek. I wonder how much of that played a part in naming the streets?
@pauljones1350
@pauljones1350 4 жыл бұрын
You got Tesco extra pencilled in on map amuses me on your route plan great programmes thankyou
@busylizzie2009
@busylizzie2009 Жыл бұрын
As a child in the 1960s I attended Commonweal School on The Mall, Swindon. West of what was in those days the boys playground, immediately at the back (West) of the school, was a deep cutting that ended abruptly where, what was in those days, the school’s sports pitches. I always figured this may have been an attempt to take the line around the West side of Swindon, similar to the line eventually constructed across Rushey Platt, but much closer to Old Town. Indeed, it’s possible, in my head anyway, that the cutting continued North under the sports pitches but was partially filled in in the intervening years. I’ve never seen anything to support this theory but I can’t think why else the cutting would have been dug.
@suzyqualcast6269
@suzyqualcast6269 Жыл бұрын
OS Old Maps. Used to use back in the 2002/3's to hopefully aid bottle ti finding. They didn't but, gd Lord I fell in love with olde OS plan detail. It was free resource, then, but different now.
@taffman1
@taffman1 4 жыл бұрын
Good to see you managed to find a copy of the original deposited plans, they can be very interesting to read.
@grahamlavers8128
@grahamlavers8128 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video,learning even more about my home town. The tunnel is one thing I didn`t know about.Thank you again.
@nicnak4475
@nicnak4475 3 жыл бұрын
So interesting, as are all your vids thanks you two and Rebecca pulls the most amazing expressions ! Makes me smile :o)
@davie941
@davie941 4 жыл бұрын
hey paul and rebecca , another very interesting video , well done :)
@faithvaughan101
@faithvaughan101 3 жыл бұрын
See as I've lived in swindon for most of my life before I moved for uni, my sole urge is to go to the most dangerous street after seeing the title haha
@johnm2012
@johnm2012 4 жыл бұрын
As one of those who keeps watching your videos but hadn't subscribed I thought I'd do the decent thing and subscribe!
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 4 жыл бұрын
Well that's very kind. Genuinely we do that with other channels!
@Paul_hughes
@Paul_hughes 4 жыл бұрын
Great video with lots of knowledge, but is it Swindons most dangerous? When I was a young lad circa 1995, I would knock about in the site of the old railway works - which is now the designer outlet village. In those days, the site was enormous, completely derelict and fascinating. The site included the two outlet carparks and the site of the museum in its footprint. Many empty sheds and buildings stood on the site, including the pattern store bar, it was a treasure trove of railway artefacts. During that summer, we explored the site, top to bottom, over and above ground. One day, to the west of the outlet we discovered an enormous tunnel which was open to the air in only a small section. Removing a make shift cover the tunnel below must have been some 30-40 ft deep and ran under what is now the Outlet's west car park. After days of exploring, we could not locate the tunnel entrance, and despite our best efforts, could find no way down into the tunnel, from the make shift cover as it was just too dangerous. So, because I have no idea how long that tunnel was, a carpark and perhaps even a housing estate has been built over it - could this be Swindons most dangerous tunnel? I have drawn a rough map of the tunnel location here - imgur.com/gallery/2IqFXut Do you have any knowledge of this tunnel? Or maybe it is a future project, I would love to know more!
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 4 жыл бұрын
Now this sounds like a decent mystery to look into. Can you drop us an email? I can't view the link you've sent for some reason! whitewickpaul@gmail.com Much appreciated
@Paul_hughes
@Paul_hughes 4 жыл бұрын
The Whitewicks email sent!
@roddix7230
@roddix7230 4 жыл бұрын
another very enjoyable and interesting production - well done you guys
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@donsharpe5786
@donsharpe5786 4 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons Swindon was selected was because it had access to the canal system, so it could bring raw materials for the works.
@MrDannyDetail
@MrDannyDetail 4 жыл бұрын
As well as already having a stone quarrying industry in the town, which was also useful for the GWR, and was why the canals came through Swindon in the first place.
@andrewholloway231
@andrewholloway231 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a brilliant video. I enjoyed this. In 2010 , I stayed at The Marriott Swindon Hotel for a RCTS members weekend and there is an old M&SWJR railway bridge.
@jondwyer3037
@jondwyer3037 4 жыл бұрын
ITS DOWHILL TO LONDON AND TO BRISTOL FROM SWINDON.. GREAT VIDEO.KEEP UP THE EFFORT
@tinplategeek1058
@tinplategeek1058 4 жыл бұрын
My great-great-great grandfather was living and working in Swindon in 1851. Listed as a journeyman so probably working in the locomotive industry. Before 1861, the family moved to Sunderland and he worked in the ship yards as a boiler maker. As did his son and his son. Trades were kept in the family in those days.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 4 жыл бұрын
I guess that would be the case. Also agreed with the trades.
@MrDannyDetail
@MrDannyDetail 4 жыл бұрын
@EnjoyingUTube Too You probably know this, but a jounrneyman was a tradesman who had passed his apprenticeship in his chosen trade, and was thus qualified, but who wasn't yet considered a 'master craftsman' (someone skilled enough to be self-employed in their chosen trade). Normally on censuses you see something like 'Carpenter (Journeyman)' in the occupation column, rather than just 'journeyman'. In Swindon at that time a journeyman could well be qualified in one the trades employed by the Railway works, but could also be one of the other trades (quarrying for example was a trade relevant to Swindon both before and during the early GWR era), though if your ancestor was later a boiler maker then that does suggest a railway trade. There are GWR records available on Ancestry that would probably help you find out if you ancestor was employed at the Works.
@AnonYmous-wp6qh
@AnonYmous-wp6qh 4 жыл бұрын
Speaking of abandoned tunnels, the Woodhead line Manchester- Sheffield Victoria has Woodhead Tunnel and Thurgoland Tunnel still intact, Thurgoland you can walk through. Pieces of track lay dotted around, with evidence it was a double track mainline. All stations apart from Thurgoland, Hazelhead Bridge and Oxspring remain fully intact, and Oxspring can only be estimated for location. Interestingly Thurgoland was also the UK's shortest lived mainline station, at 1y11m total. This is one of the most interesting abandoned lines, and the old Grand Central Railway original station and engine shed are fully intact. Have you any idea when you may do that line? Just really like this line, and am frankly obsessed with the railway infrastructure, and I can't wait to see your visit to it
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Anon, yup we plan on visiting the Thurgoland tunnels as soon as possible.
@AnonYmous-wp6qh
@AnonYmous-wp6qh 4 жыл бұрын
@@pwhitewick Great, thanks for letting me know- it is my local disused line, so I like to see it alot, and visit it too.
@danensis
@danensis 4 жыл бұрын
Hebden Bridge seems a bit out of the way
@AnonYmous-wp6qh
@AnonYmous-wp6qh 4 жыл бұрын
@@danensis Ay up, where am I thinking of? There's an information board and the bridge, with small arch where Passengers walked the Platform. Named specifically after a bridge? Oh Hazelhead Bridge! That's the one! Now correctly edited
@2H80vids
@2H80vids 4 жыл бұрын
@@AnonYmous-wp6qh Dunford Bridge and Wadsford Bridge are the two that spring to mind. Hebden Bridge, between Halifax and Todmorden, is very much still open.😁
@frootyfabulous101
@frootyfabulous101 3 жыл бұрын
Off topic but since everyone from Swindon has gathered here, any ID's, iKONics, Carats, VIP's or Shawols in Swindon? 💗
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