Why would they ???

@@mopar_keys You know why.

@@calmdownbruh8518 but I don’t

@@mopar_keys Stay ignorant then.🤷‍♂️

@@mopar_keyswhat do u think?

It's crazy to think that Lebron's legacy is safe only because of all he did before the Warriors came around. If he had started playing just a few years later, everyone's opinion on him would be different because there is no chance in hell someone with just 2 rings is in the GOAT conversation.

@@laurocomanwell obviously but that didn’t happen did it.

@@laurocomanI think if Lebron didn’t screw up not winning in 2011 and 2014 people would probably give him a pass not winning in 2017 or 18 when he needed to badly. Cause hypothetically put in perspective he does still win in 2020 as well he’d have 7 rings in total with probably 6 finals mvp(2011 goes to dwade most likely) and the comparison to Jordan would tight knit

@@ssj4goku18825theepicI don’t think lebron had a chance in 2014. The spurs were a monster that year

@@glenntaylor266 I mean it’s not like the heat were pushovers. If anything they would have adjusted too and played their cards right. I could have accepted even then losing in 7 by a close margin but 4-1 is pathetic for a guy at his peak

this☝🏽

Fact bro

Facts. Like KD arguably has a better resume than Dirk but I’m still taking Dirk all time bc of how he won that one ring

I feel u, but MJ’s legacy was being disgust decades, before LeBron. MJ was undefeated and was nearly undefeated in the regular seasons. young ppl I tell u😂🤣

actually it’s the other way around helped Steph Curry and GSW legacy has arguably the best team in NBA history LeBron is the media’s darling, so everything is amplified because of him, prior to LeBron facing GSW, GSW they never won anything before. LeBron was the most talked athlete when he went to Miami🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️😂 u gotta be young 😂🤣 he won 2 rings and went to 5 finals before he faced Curry🤔🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ they were comparing him to Jordan over decade before he faced GSW🤔😤😂. It seem that way to u because they beat a young GSW team in 2016 their second year in the finals that was LeBron’s 7 and 5th straight finals, Curry was in the league for 6 years Klay and Draymond 4 years. LeBron 14 years of experience🤦‍♂️ LeBron got beat by a young Curry and his young team and he cried literally tears in 2015 after losing to Curry😂🤣he’s talked because he’s getting his beat and he’s supposed to the Goat🤔😂🤣🤣 the Goat is not supposed to get beat 3x by Curry and GSW not only in the finals, but in the regular seasons, Curry has a higher winning percentage over LeBron when facing each other. that’s only reserved for MJ true winner.

It did tbh 💀😭😭

As a warriors fan, we were pretty spoiled

I loved that, I can talk smack all day and throw in their face that Curry is the best and it’s Curry’s era y’all better bow down and I love when Curry celebrates and know it stings other fan bases 😂😂😂

As a Knick fan, I was happy to see Steph dominate LeBron cuz my Knicks never got anywhere with him in the conference. He was our second Jordan but vulnerable unlike MJ

@@NYCBX9you know its funny how you keep saying Curry curry curry, makes it seem like KD wasnt the one giving him them rings back to back, no matter what happens its like curry can do no wrong huh

It doesnt matter if they were a game away, they still lost. And they lost because Steph and Klay were subpar for most of that series. Not to mention that Steph was terrible in all except one of the Warriors 3 wins in the 2016 finals. They were totally carried by the bench in that series.

@@smoothsavage2870 I’m not gonna lie I’ve recently went back and they’re were a few players that were so ass I didn’t even notice. Steph and klay played poorly obviously like you said but Kevin love was really a non factor in the 2016 finals too fr

@@smoothsavage2870 exactly Steph the unanimous MVP was trash that series, to this day he hasn’t had a series that bad. They were the best team and the fact they were that close despite Steph’s play proves that

Ain’t go lie GSW vs lakers felt like a real game

Steph and Giannis would’ve been insane

Honestly, if KD didn’t join GSW, LeBron would’ve prolly gotten an extra ring, and u wouldn’t be seein many crapping on his legacy. The unfortunate part is that as a Lakers fan, it’s gonna be hard for him getting his 5th ring. If he retires without it, I think a lotta ppl will look at LeBron’s career funny. The same happened with Wilt when he got compared to Jordan and Kareem

That's the only knock on his legacy idk why his haters always bring up his impressive 4-6 record

Ngl, losing to the 2014 Spurs too. Like, they really couldn’t beat that aging retirement home? 2011 Mavs loss was definitely more embarrassing tho.

@@thesacredflame663 the Heat shat the bed in 2014, but unlike 2011, it wasn’t really all cuz of LeBron, the whole team was imploding. D Wade especially had ugly moments in that run. Plus the Spurs were a DAMN good team at that time, they almost killed em back in 2013.

Definitely 2011 you can see it changed him for the better

Keep living in utter delusion 😂 😂

@@curtiszyr what year would he win a championship in OKC? Let's see who the delusional one really is

@@curtiszyr Still waiting

Exactly. He wasnt going to do anything with Russ as his teammate. They've been talking about Russ shooting you out of games since NBA 2K12. He needed somebody more effective and it just so happened that Steph was recruiting him. Steph to this day still talks about trying to play with KD again. But when he was asked if he wanted to play with Lebron, he said he doesnt want to.

@@i_l96 It’s easy to say it in hindsight but like the video said okc saw success prior to kd leaving. If that 2016 okc just won one more game I believe they actually win it all that year. Hell they probably could’ve won the next year if kd resigned because that roster was going to see some serious change

Nah I've been sayin this since 2019 he dont wanna bring out them fan girls that really piss them off 😂😂😂 James harden definitely the most impacted I mean to have a nearly 50% chance and u lose 4 times is kinda crazy he really landed tails 4 times 😂😂😂😂

@@wereallyrollin6680 wtf are you babbling about. The original comment said harden won more games as if that actually Matt because the end result was always a LOSS. Meanwhile bron actually got this thing called a CHAMPIONSHIP from actually beating the warriors

Yea, Chris Paul wasn’t there, plus the rockets are a better matchup

@@chilldoc9638 remember when Kd wasn’t there and the warriors won anyway….

the next year kd wasnt there and harden still lost. the problem is harden was never statistically superior to everyone he just had an amazing team. bron literally played like a demi god and still lost@@chilldoc9638

He was a free agent 😭 getting swept is literally nothing . Lakers got swept by Denver but they beat the same championship warriors team. 😂

FACTS!!!! LeBron gave validation to "super team". GSW panicked/chickened out and signed KD! THEY ARE AS BAD AS EACH OTHER!!!

​@@darrengordon-hill we hear you Stephen A 😂

You cant snake a team if you're a free agent my guy. At that point he didnt owe OKC a damn thing. It was the greatest move to give Lebron and his Cavs superteam some actual competition since the East was too damn weak to do it. BTW his career is still ongoing. We dont know what the future holds for him on the Suns. All you can really do is say "well i dont think he'll win with them", but that doesnt mean that he wont. And if he does, that destroys all these baseless narratives.

@@smoothsavage2870 Here you bron hating gremlins go with that “east is weak” bs lol it’s not brons fault he dominated your poverty franchises. Even after Kyrie left he still made the finals against the 1st seeded raptors and swept them and swept the 1st seeded hawks in 2015 with him as well you fuvkin casual

FACTS . But you see how LeBron fans make excuses when LeBron has to play superteams but they don't say anything when LeBron on the best teams .

@@ThePlugOfTheBronx so you are saying that Lebron had to stay in cleveland lol its like saying a baby had to suck milk for there whole life

@@xtucs i never said that . I said lebron forms supersteams and his fans still make excuses after he loses . No one said he had to stay in Cleveland just stop making excuses for his losses after he left in 2010.

@@ThePlugOfTheBronx the heat aren't even close to the warriors with kd, the warriors are the greatest team of all time, the heat had an older wade and bosh

But context is never applied when the warriors loose.

​@@kohsmoger1567what context

@@chewhatif4745 When the warriors lost in 2019 and 2016 due to injuries, suspensions or both

⁠@@kohsmoger1567 2016 warriors had 2 chances to clinch after that suspension, that is not enough. 2019 i MIGHT give them, but they were so stacked that even without KD they had more than enough to win, it was the Klay loss that did them in at the end.

@@euro51116 Steph wasn’t a 60 percent in 2016, bogut went down when draymond got suspended for the rest of the series, iggy through out his back and ezeli came into the series hurt. As for 2019 it’s obvious Durant and klay going down made a massive difference and the warriors were top heavy so any of the starters missing is noticed.

And they would've lost and it would've been the same reason they lost in 2012. Russ's bad decision-making, bad shot selection and low IQ. OKC screwed up not keeping Harden to help space the floor for KD.

​@@smoothsavage2870i disagree. They would really make a difference this time

LeBron set himself up for a lot of that, too. Remember the summer after the 2016 Finals? "That one right there made me the greatest of all time." "Chasing that ghost in Chicago"? He was all about those comparisons before his Cavs got humbled two years in a row

@@c.moriarty1178 Well I don’t fault him for talking shit, the best do. It’s simply the fact that he bleeds and Jordan doesnt.

Not when he did it tho. Only when nick wright said it retrospectively. Nobody was elevating him that much after the finals. It became crazy AFTER the summer.

@@cyrillechristophe9731nah a lot more ppl started really thinking bron was the actual goat immediately after that finals or at least was solidified as top 5

​@@confessionsofamoviefreak9580tell me how he was ahead of kareem, magic, bird, etc

@@confessionsofamoviefreak9580 he was not a definitive top 5 in peoples eyes you clown and people were still giving him slack for Cleveland so when he came back and won with his original team peoples view changed

@@cyrillechristophe9731 Idk what you’re babbling about but nick wright did not elevate this man and then everyone started agreeing people we’re already having top 3 all time right after the comeback

I think what he means is that if not for the warriors Bron would've won more rings

@@leeyongpong3578Exactly

@@leeyongpong3578 that doesn’t mean his legacy is “ruined” lebron got a ring against them in the best comeback ever against the best regular season of all time. Prior to that ring bron was barely top 10 in most eyes but after 2016 he elevated all the way to top 3-5

@@impacc4182 I didn't said it ruined it legacy , but if not for the warriors he might have win more rings ,that will improve his legacy even more . With this extra rings , he can easily challenge Jordan for the GOAT title

@@impacc4182 nah even before that GS ring the GOAT convo started brewing between him MJ after his Miami tenure. This ring is when people started way more serious discussions about it

I say this all the time KD ruined bron vs curry rivalry it would of been magic vs bird all over again

But Lebron is a GOAT..KD should not be the factor that stopped him. Those teams were more balanced than people think and admit because that might tanish Lebrons legacy

@@thegame7557 More balanced than people think? Who were the best players on Lebron's teams in the finals of 2015 and 2018?

@@godofwarrio9086 KD wasn't with the warriors in 2015. People speak as if KD played for the warriors for five years while he only made it to the finals in two years before going down in 2019. The 2017 team Cavs team was on par with the warriors.

@@thegame7557 lol, the 2017 cavaliers were not really on par with the warriors. The addition of KD completely tipped the scales and no one can deny that. A 73-9 team getting KD is not equal to Bron, Love and Kyrie.

Lebron was by far the best player in the league 😂😂😂

@@chilldoc9638 no he wasn’t lol KD made back to back daggers in lbj face😂

Lebron joined the miami heat he basically did the same thing no different they destroyed the league did they not

@@christopherbrown5269 LeBron didn’t join a team that won 73 games, he built a new team. If you watched the Heat team days you would not be saying that nonsense, the league was way more competitive back then.

@@Yulz553 It don't matter if that team won 73 games or not you bozo he still joined a superteam all while losing to a aging dirk it ain't no mystery that lebron is the general manager hiring manager agent all in one while playing in any uniform for any organization

I felt like that playoff series to me, was going to be a make or break for bron and curry's rivalry and career in my eyes

Not at all but sure how ever u wanna justify it. No one came to help Steph on offense except for avg 15 from Wiggins. This wasn’t even close to prime Klay. Draymond has always been the defensive facilitator. Andre is pretty old now

You mean when AD saw the warriors. Get off your knees

Let's be real it was cause of ad why you all that run

@@thatman8636 what goes around comes around, AD lost 2 times to warriors without a liable scoring 2nd optional guy, bron also has lost to warriors with subpar teams, this is karma, and giving warriors a taste of what has been happening since their entire dominant run

I see this comment everywhere I go. Please save me

@@danyaljeff it's cause I'm everywhere on Warrior related videos, sorry! 😅🙈 To be fair, it's been at least two weeks since I posted it (I think 😅🙈)!

Good luck with all that 🤣🤣

​@@danyaljeffBronsexual

This team is not winning a championship

When they win: championship DNA When they lose: we have 4 rings 🤦🏾‍♂️

That was perfectly stated 💯

Fire 🔥

Fax nigga wanted to be loyal and "nOT rUn fRoM tHe gRiNd" and ended up still leaving lol loyalty is a joke and it stained his career

Kobe won 4 championships and went to 6 finals in the 2000’s while individually being the best player for the most part throughout the decade compared to Shaq’s 4 championships in 5 finals while only being the best player for less than half the decade then Duncan winning 3 in 3 finals while never really being considered the best throughout the decade. I think Kobe would secure having the 2000’s as his era. Lebron won the same amount of championships as the Warriors did in the 2010’s but also went to double the amount of finals, I’d say 2010’s would fall under Lebron’s era primarily with that context.

@@YungLanxx The first paragraph of your comment has me confused. Kobe was definitely not the best definitive best player in the 2000s. Similar to what you said about shaq only dominating in the early half can easily be said for kobe since he only dominated in the later half of the decade. Therefore the original comment is right it would be a combination of duncan, kobe, shaq, and maybe a young lebron maybe.

@@impacc4182 Kobe had the most years as the best player arguably from 04 to 09, but that was one aspect of multiple examples I brought up which I mentioned before time being the individual best player in the decade. Kobe individually has the most rings and finals appearances, that’s a fact. Can you at least dispute the other things I prioritized for my point if you wanna debate my overall opinion?

@@YungLanxx Ok stop it kobe was definetly not the best player from 04 to 09. Lebron, d wade, hell even dirk were dominating in that span. Kobe only has 1 mvp in that time so how could he be the "player of the decade" Shaq actually 3 peated and won a ring afterwards meanwile kobe only won 2 in the last 2 years of the 2000s. Those finals you keep naming kobe made shaq was apart of half of them and he won finals mvp for all 3 of those rings he played with kobe.

Include Luka in 20s that has never been to the finals never led the league in scoring, assist or win mvp. But exclude Durant from 10s who was arguably the second best player behind lebron is crazy 😂

Yeah because tatumn and brown or the equivalent talent as bron and kyrie😂m0r0n

Terrible example

Didn’t Destroy anyone’s legs bro what 😂😂😂😂😂🤦🏾‍♂️

San Antonio?

i dont think san antonio went 73-9 and changed the way teams and players operate@@thabofinca3377

@@thabofinca3377they never went back to back Lakers>>>>>

They never destroyed LeBron's legacy lmaoo, many people talks about Bron 2007 and 2018 carry job to the finals than the warriors 2 rings

Agreed with what you said about bron and kyrie but your comment on westbrook is literally what was described in the video

Lebron is fine legacy-wise, he just doesnt have a good case against MJ in the GOAT debate.

@@smoothsavage2870 Oh he definitely does, I believe that’s why he’s so hated till this day. You Jordan stans are threatened by him possibly getting 2 more rings and maybe 2 more finals mvps. If bron gets those he would undoubtedly be the goat in basketball

@@impacc4182 Lebron would only have a case against the GOAT if he wasnt team stacking since 2010. MJ wasnt weak enough to do that, so Lebron will always be lesser than him. Idc about front office excuses. MJ stayed 10 toes down and got it done 6x with ONE all star his whole career. MJ's 2nd option never averaged 25+ while Lebron has had at least 3 or 4 players who have done that. You can only compare MJ with those that came before him. Lebron will never be on his level.

@@smoothsavage2870 Oh you’re of those. “bRoN iNvEnTeD sUpErTeAmS hE rAn fRoM tHe gRiNd” you jordan dik riders are hilarious 😂 bron went to the finals at 22 with no other star and made multiple conference finals. Unlike the bulls that saved mj’s ass from future first round sweeps with Phil Jackson, rodman, pippen, Claxton, kerr, etc. the cavs gave lebron Mo Williams, larry hughes and washed up shaq and again he still made the finals. But let me guess? “The east was weak”. Then he only went to miami because the Celtics big 3 dominated the east. Had he stayed they never would’ve gotten Kyrie and his career would’ve rotted in Cleveland like dames. You bron haters are different breed of slow he has 3 finals mvps with 3 different teams if it was so easy everyone would be doing it

What is" skill" for you?

the only proper team they beat was thunder and cavs, and maybe celtics, then there is rockets would foolish playstyle, 2019 specifically and game 7 of 2018, the rest were easy money, including rockets without cp3

The 2017/18 Rockets were special and I miss it

harden lost to a curry-less warriors, and it wasn't even a close series, was never close until he got cp3, but that goes to show you the comp warriors played against

Westbrook put some respect on his name you keyboard warrior couch potato

I’m saying tho 💀😭😭

I would agree. LeBron would've had the Warriors' number if KD didn't join.

What if Bron stayed on Cleveland instead of joining Wade, and recruiting Bosh 🤫🤐

@@look-at-curry-man2206 I don't think they get the picks to get Kyrie if Lebron stays, so he probably would have never won anything. It would still be a mediocre to bad team plus Lebron.

@@laurocoman Jordan only played with one all-star his whole career, and Kobe won 2 rings without Shaq b2b in the hardest era to score ever, and owns Tim Duncan 4>1 in the playoffs and swept him without Shaq the same team Bron lost to keep in mind

@@look-at-curry-man2206 damn

KD won 2 finals mvp over Steh

@@BIuezy Steph won two without kd!!! What has kd accomplished?😭😭😭

There was nothing legit about that "rivalry". One team was a built team (GSW), the other was a bought superteam (Cavs). KD made it even and more enjoyable to watch.

GSW chickened out cos "73-9 but no ring" so acted like that validated them getting KD. BOTH squads are a joke

The cavs didn’t shift the balance in anything they were a good team. If you hate lebron then cry some more but let’s stop rewriting stuff

@@impacc4182 LeBron is the GOAT of his eara... WTF are you talking about? Is that all you got when someone speaks the truth? I started off saying "the greatest dictate the league." 🤣🤦‍♂️ I'm curious, please give me actual info to support your claim, that refutes my easily conformable statement. You know, let's have a knowledgeable discussion. Because you are just saying empty words that hold no factual or creditable information...

Nah that cavs team impacted the entire east. They ain’t rewriting shit, you’re just some weirdo who’s defending LeBron throughout this entire comment section

nah fr

Didn't LeBron have to go get dwade and bosh?

@@ThePlugOfTheBronx yep, he did. And what did he do after he left Dwade and Bosh? What has KD done since he left Steph? Compare the OKC teams KD had to the Cavs teams Lebron had his first run with the Cavs

@@Thrivel when kd was about to win a ring in 2012 he had to face lebron's Miami superteam. KD team wasn't good enough to beat the heat big 3 bro 💀. This led to kd joining a good team to face lebron .

@@ThePlugOfTheBronx you’re missing the point. KD went on to become an MVP after that 2012 Finals loss. Russell became a top 10-15 player in the league after that finals loss. Even though Harden left, that team was good enough to get to the Finals again and win. They didn’t. That’s on him and Westbrook.

i doubt it, both are headed towards the decline

The Spurs we're the best team in the Kobe era and Kobe isn't even in the goat debate. Goat debate is between individuals not teams

@@BIuezyHow were the Spurs the best team in Kobe’s era when Kobe won 4 titles from 2000-2009 when Duncan only won 3

@@BIuezyAnd before you push than “Duncan won 2 Finals MVPs” argument remember Duncan wasn’t finals MVP in 2007 and arguably didn’t deserve Finals MVP in 2005 against the Pistons

KD literally doesn't even have a legacy without curry and the warriors

@@TjFreely2 so Iverson and Charles Barkley don’t have one either? 💀

@@TjFreely2Jordan has no legacy without pippen

​@@TjFreely2Bron doesn't have a legacy without Wade, Bosh Ray Allen, Kyrie, and Adisney

Average jordan stan iq

Every single time. The last comment he made was just ludicrous. I get it that you're trying to look out for your boy KD after you all just won another chip without him, but the very fact that you won a chip with a good, not great SF in Wiggins only proves that you could win more without him.

Bronsexuals do the same thing when thinking Bron is next to MJ and not Kobe or Kareem.

@@remnant8898 If you take out the 2017,2018, and 2019 finals that means they would have only won one ring all the way in 2022 with your dumb logic lol they needed kd to beat the cavs and rockets and possibly the raptors not no wiggins you goof

@@look-at-curry-man2206 One thing we know steph ain;t close to any of the players you just named now wipe your mouth

@@impacc4182 When did I say he was, fix your eyes.

So you admit durant is better than curry, yet are also saying that curry is better than everyone else cus he let kd on his team?

@@Mdksupreme1 NO‼The operative word[s] are 'arguably' and 'sets #30 above and beyond'; one other example: Wade and Lebron

LBJ fans try to forget that shhhhh🤫

He still got swept 😅

True

thevonly two times LeBron had a realistic chance of beating them he did ;) 2016 & 2023

Saying that 3 of the main guys getting injured on the opposing team was the only time Lebron had a realistic chance of beating them only makes your point weaker. People who aren’t a Lebron hater know GS losses don’t remove from his legacy his choke job losses in the heat uniform are what leave a mark on his legacy.

@shavoylondon7822 Kevin Durant, Steph, and Duncan are all better than Barkley, Ewing and Malone. The only player Jordan had to beat in that era who was on KD, Steph, and Duncan's level was Hakeem.

@shavoylondon7822The only time Lebron played with another top 5 level player was in 2011, and they didn't even win that year because Bron choked. Curry wasn't even the best player on his team for half of his championships. Curry didn't have to leave GS because they drafted the best 3 and D player of all time, one of the best defenders of all time, and then added the second best player in the league to his team for good measure. You are a clown. Stop posting.

@shavoylondon7822 “mike didn’t need all stars” You jordan dik riders are delusional holy shi😂I was gonna add to this thread but reading your replies made me loss brain cells. Ps it was the BULLS that did everything you described. Take away phil Jackson, Scottie pippen, rodman, Kerr, Claxton, etc and his bum ahh would still be getting swept in the first round facing some REAL competition lol

I feel like it's specifically Charles Barkley for some reason. Nobody really faults Magic for losing to MJ, Clyde Drexler is kind of forgettable and won in Houston anyway, Gary Payton's legacy isn't really locked in a rings debate and he also later won, and I think it's fair to say that Karl Malone and John Stockton kind of tarnished their own legacies off the court lol.

Jordan didn't ruin anything it’s the BULLS that ruined all those players legacies. You Jordan stans give him way to much credit.That's like saying this video should be named all the legacies "curry" ruined when we know it was the warriors as a whole.

Everything counta even when he lost to dirk at the end of his prime foh

No they didn't. Because of 2016, everyone started putting him in the goat debate, before he was like top 5-10

Easily 😅

Kd, harden, westbrook, and cp3 all made the finals you goof what're you babbling about

@@impacc4182 only KD on your list has done that, but its questionable, because in 2012, harden and russ saved the thunder many times in their run, and harden was the reason they won vs spurs in the wcf, so technically its botched in a way

The only bum teams LeBron ever got to the finals with was 2007 and 2018.

I honestly believe if the dubs get ring number 5 they retire and go out on top