Sword Cane vs Self-Defense Cane: Which is better?

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Cane Masters

Cane Masters

2 жыл бұрын

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The President and owner of Cane Masters LLC, H Keith Melton, compares sword canes and self-defense canes from the perspectives of "coolness", "effectiveness", "accessibility", "mobility", "practicality", "concealability", "intimidation", and "legality". In the summary he declares the clear winner. Melton is a Senior Master of the Cane (ACSD) and noted international author. He has written several books on espionage gadgets including the best selling ULTIMATE SPY BOOK and SPYCRAFT. Melton is currently the Executive Producer of the hit Netflix series, SPYCRAFT.

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@pasquinilli
@pasquinilli 2 жыл бұрын
The Cane Masters self-defense cane, cannot be beaten. It is far superior by every measure to a sword cane. Thank you for sharing this Keith!
@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes
@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Matt for your support and for being a friend of Cane Masters.
@jmholiday
@jmholiday 2 жыл бұрын
Meth. My G19 which I train on weekly basis bests both :)
@Douglassilva91098
@Douglassilva91098 Жыл бұрын
In brazil you can cary blades, knifes or sword canes whenever you want. You only can not show it ostensively on streets. I also know some iajutsu moviments i trained a while. In brazil you can not have firearms of any time on outside ou inside home. So i'd rather my sword cane made my sensei, friend and forger.
@JACathcart5181
@JACathcart5181 2 жыл бұрын
My Cane Masters cane can go through airport security with no problems, as you pointed out. A sword cane cannot. As a frequent traveler, that is a major issue for me. Plus, if you have defended yourself with a standard cane, you are far more likely to be looked on favorably by a jury should you have to go to court. If I took out a perp with a sword, even in self-defense, I am far more likely to be classified as an advocate for violence who was out looking for trouble. I will never carry a sword cane.
@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes
@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes 2 жыл бұрын
Well said James!
@basp-ef7jx
@basp-ef7jx Жыл бұрын
Just a note about the sword cane tactics. You can use the other part of the cane in your off hand to strike or block with. So, stabbing, slashing isn't the only option. A regular cane is still a much better option.
@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes
@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes Жыл бұрын
Hi there! You're right, it still depends on what tactics you are familiar and comfortable with. At the end of the day, skills in using canes for personal protection can go a long way. You can email us at info@canemasters.com if you need anything else.
@ObservantPiratePlus
@ObservantPiratePlus 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's far more "James Bond" to have a more practical, universally-carriable cane that is designed to be used for both mobility and self defense. You can use everything from baton, escrima, and boken techniques (and more) with a battle cane, and it's legal everywhere. Were James Bond real, I'll bet he'd approve.
@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes
@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes 2 жыл бұрын
That is exactly what we produce at Cane Masters! Plus, you can legally carry any of our Cane Masters canes where ever you may travel.
@MrMann703
@MrMann703 Жыл бұрын
I like both options, the sword cane you have looks more like a decorative piece than practical. I have a shart rapier style cane coming from cold steel, 18" rapier blade and the walking shaft is sturdy hard aluminum giving you both a lethal and non lethal option. I made my dad a nice cane from a young tree on our yard, it was beautiful and very effective as a self defense tool. Both types of canes if a person was to use for self defense requires practice practice practice, if you got a person with a regular wood cane, same thing with a sword cane, without training using it as a weapon they will be in trouble. Minimal training is required with both options, dedicated training is better. In canada its against the law to carry anything whatsoever for the purpose of self defense, canada likes its citizens defenseless, helpless and open to attack. Over here sometimes its better not to ask permission
@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes
@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes Жыл бұрын
Hi Lauren, thanks for sharing! Consistent practice can go a long way. You can email us at info@canemasters.com if you need anything.
@thomasnugent3836
@thomasnugent3836 2 жыл бұрын
Very good !
@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes
@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks Tom! Stay safe
@AZCobraman
@AZCobraman Жыл бұрын
I love your James Bond/Marvel Comics secret headquarters. Very cool.
@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes
@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@matusfekete6503
@matusfekete6503 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for clear explanation. Few thoughts of mine: Effectiveness - Just wondering, how can you 'disable someone to the point they can no longer hurt you' without hurting them? Swords/knifes too can be use in less-than-lethal fashion by cutting, which is more efficient than stabbing and more instinctive for untrained users. In addition swords are much harder to lose control of in grapple. AND you still have cane in other hand. This point should went to Sword Cane. Accessibility - Some Sword Canes may require fumbling around to deploy, but not all. There are retention methods which does not require more than pull the blade out. And, more importantly, even sheathed sword cane still works as cane. I'd gave this point as tie. Practicality - You are absolutely right that canes can, with training, give many more options. But please elaborate, without any details given no point should have been awarded.
@siekensou77
@siekensou77 Жыл бұрын
can't you utilize gravity and or swinging forces to assist in unsheathing the sword? and for training, both cane and sword cane are useless in the hands of an untrained individual. the required training would also be different between the 2 items. much similar in that sword and axe do not use the same training.
@danhaywood5696
@danhaywood5696 2 жыл бұрын
Have several of both. I want to make a wooden J hook 12" dirk cane, with and instant trigger release of some design, maybe a rocker finger release. This got me thinking of it. I can carry my sword canes legally, but they are aluminum, noisy somewhat, difficult to carry, and heavy. Both of my existing sword canes are probably more difficult to fight with, even though I've customized them. I would carry and practice with a regular J hook Hickory dagger or dirk short sword cane. So long as it was still amply strong, and could be instantly releases from secure and quiet shaft scabbard. Wow! I already have my own unique design of fighting J canes and I just realized how it lends itself perfectly to this Oak or Hickory, quick draw short blade sword cane design idea. I gotta figure out what use as a high quality strong blade thinking a tapered pointed + cross section, or maybe a tapered pointed rod, like the Cold Steel QuickDraw. It has no edge, but can whack and puncture. Only thing about comfortably carrying a concealed sword cane EDC, is making a mistake and accidentally carrying it into federal facility which bans them or another facility in which they are not legal. I'm too aware to make such a mistake myself as I do not go into such places without thoughts on avoiding trouble.
@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes
@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Dan… stay safe!
@VTPSTTU
@VTPSTTU 2 жыл бұрын
The one advantage that I'd give a sword cane that you didn't mention is that someone who was extremely well-trained and well-practiced and had an extremely well-made sword cane would be able to dual-wield the sword with one hand and the remainder of the cane with the other hand. Essentially, the single cane would immediately become a bladed weapon in one hand and a blunt force weapon in the other hand. To make use of that functionality, someone would need to train extensively in dual-wielding the combination. I know that I could never be that person, so I wouldn't want a sword cane from that perspective. As a concealed carrier, an advantage to the traditional cane is that I can carry the cane in my non-dominant hand. If I'm attacked, I can employ the cane immediately and have a chance of stopping the attack with just the cane. However, I can begin drawing a firearm while I thrust the cane at an attacker. If the thrust lands squarely enough, the attacker will be thrown off his line of attack. I might need to make one more short strike, but I'm soon going to be pointing the firearm at the attacker. If he doesn't immediately cease attacking, I will then be in a position to use lethal force very effectively. I have two Cane Master's canes and one of the "bo-canes" that you made a while ago. I use the bo-cane more as a walking stick and mostly just walking laps around my yard. The other two canes are frequently with me in public. Personally, I think the traditional wooden cane has a greater "cool factor" for an older gentleman like me. It's distinguished in its own way and doesn't make people think that I'm trying to play young man's games. I also have a polypropylene cane for the winter when I don't want road salt on my wooden canes.
@siekensou77
@siekensou77 Жыл бұрын
he talks about the cane with training then immediately states the sword cane without training. the sword cane is a blade. you would do much better with sword related training. just simply different training. you would not be any more decent with the cane if you had no training.
@dalemiller2160
@dalemiller2160 Жыл бұрын
The cane gives you the option of being non lethal. Sword cane, probably very lethal! -just like my 9mm., I live in a constitutional carry state. Many do not appreciate how taking someone's life, screws you up!
@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes
@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes Жыл бұрын
Dale you make a great point, no one wants to get into that situation.
@labhrainn
@labhrainn 2 жыл бұрын
The sword cane he has to compare with the wooden cane is a bad example of a sword cane. It has a certain amount of garish coolness about it, but as a sword cane it is pretty useless. It is for show, not for use. Some sword canes have release mechanisms, some do not. Mine does not. It is "locked", but it is pull/jerk to release. Some sword canes have edged blades, some do not. Mine does not, it is basically an epee - a stiff thrusting sword. The blade is just over 28". It is designed to attack your opponents internal organs. However, it is perfectly possible to attack joints although this does demand skill. The blad is square giving it considerable lateral strength. This means that a strike is effective as a defensive attack. Unlike the very nice Cane Master cane I have, such an attack will not result in broken bones except for small bones such as wristbones. An attack to the head can result in a nicely dramatic and bloody injury, but not death. Strike attacks are basically whipping your opponent with a steel whip. All sword canes have a joint between the scabbard part of the cane and the sword grip. This is a weak point. Striking as you would with a cane can result in damage to the sword cane's functionality as a cane. This depends very much on the construction of sword cane and of course the kind of strike you use. Defending your self will therefore often require the sword to be drawn. He mentioned weight. Weight varies of course. There is a 3/4 ounce difference between my wooden cane and my sword cane. The sword itself weighs in at 11 1/2 ounces and fair amount of that is in the grip. As a sword the balance is off, but that is in large part due to my choice of a metal crutch handle. It is however, far faster than the cane. Intimidation. Even at low speeds my blade makes a very satisfactory (and intimidating) whooshing sound. It also makes a very satisfactory sound when drawn. 28+" of pointy steel is also quite intimidating. There are 2 good arguments against the sword cane in general. 1: The legality issue; you can't take it everywhere and there are a myriad of diffent laws. 2: A sword cane demands more skill/training (particularly if you have a crutch/T-handle), thrusting attacks require presision. This is also connected to the legality issue, eg: a thrust attack to the hip joint that misses and puntures an artery can be problematic. Such an injury can lead to an adult bleeding out in less than 5 minutes and can be difficult to deal with - even for experts. The weak point (joint) is not a major consideration, but it simply does not exist if you have a nice stout wooden cane.
@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes
@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes 2 жыл бұрын
No sword cane is legal to carry on an aircraft or in an airport. As well, sword canes are illegal in most states and countries. A good self defense cane is better in every metric.
@haze3433
@haze3433 2 жыл бұрын
@@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes Hate to point it out but the same countries that have sword canes as illegal weapons' also would consider a self-defense cane as a weapon and would prosecute you as binging in possession of a weapon unless you could prove beyond a doubt that (1) it was not sold/bought as a device for hurting and/or killing others. (2) it was not design as a devise that is meant to be use as a weapon. (3) you're at the time defending you're self or others in a legal manner based on the laws of that specific countries/state. (4) if posseting it is illegal or not . on the topic of airports and airplane's sword canes are treated no different as a knife's and other weapon's and depending on the enforcement agent they might provide you with a loner cane as a part of any safety/health procedure as necessary anyways. As a lot of company's are preventing you now from bring your own cane with you as they are legally responsible for the safety of staff, customers and, good/services they will often provide the customer with a loner mobility ad .
@dwaynewalker986
@dwaynewalker986 9 ай бұрын
Right you are.
@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes
@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes 9 ай бұрын
Hi there, thanks for reaching out! You can email us at info@canemasters.com if you need anything.
@danite620
@danite620 8 ай бұрын
I belive no doubt that I will. Always chose a defence cane and ( practice , practice , practice . The simple reason that a mobility cane is leagle , Non therating , and. Always reliable . Cant beat that
@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes
@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes 8 ай бұрын
Hi there! Yes, you are right, constant practice make a big difference when it comes to using a walking cane for personal protection.
@austinlewis2552
@austinlewis2552 2 жыл бұрын
can you use some sword canes as a defense cane first to make space then pull out the knife/sword
@austinlewis2552
@austinlewis2552 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for this awsome video
@toddcarpenter714
@toddcarpenter714 2 жыл бұрын
Ive entered the court house past the metal detector with my cane masters cane. Ive entered ballgames also through metal detectors with my cane masters cane. Ive never even been questioned about my wood cane.
@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes
@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Todd... stay safe.
@michaelarmbruster586
@michaelarmbruster586 Жыл бұрын
Went into a court house awhile ago sent my can through metal detector and still made switch to one they had
@toddcarpenter714
@toddcarpenter714 Жыл бұрын
@Michael Armbruster I would have demanded to speak to their supervisor. Because that's a load of garbage! I'm a big man, my cane master supports my weight. I'm betting that they gave you a cheap "drugstore cane" that wouldn't support very much weight.
@stevenmitchell6347
@stevenmitchell6347 9 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, many people have been brainwashed into believing that the 2nd Amendment refers only to firearms when, in reality, it refers to ARMS of ALL kinds. It is the RIGHT to KEEP and BEAR arms with no caveats or restrictions on kind of arms. Just as laws restricting firearms are being overturned as UNCONSTITUTIONAL, so are laws concerning other arms. In 1791, there were no laws on the books restricting ANY arms... at least no CONSTITUTIONAL laws that haven't since been overturned. Just as anti-gun laws are UNCONSTITUTIONAL, so are laws restricting other arms as different SCOTUS rulings in the past few years have shown. I designed a strong, lightweight, and very traditional looking cane that conceals a 28" blade. Its shaft is strong carbon fiber and the blade is a titanium alloy. It is within fraction of an ounce of the same weight as a traditional hickory or as crook cane and appears to be one, albeit satin black. It incorporates the grip and raking surfaces similar to those on your canes but, as a last resort, can reveal the blade to stop a determined attacker. This could be necessary if the attacker is on drugs and incapable of feeling pain or injury thus continues attacking regardless of the number of strikes against them. As a disabled senior and veteran, I cannot physically withstand ANY physical attacks without likelihood of them being permanently crippling or deadly to me. I must consider ANY confrontation as potentially lethal against me. It is my right to keep and bear arms and I will exercise it as is best for me. A strong cane, sword cane, and a firearm are appropriate carry as escalating threats can be met with escalated response. I do appreciate your contribution to our safety. Thank you for that.
@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes
@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@ren-redar2055
@ren-redar2055 27 күн бұрын
My one issue with your argument is that you assume training with the cane but not the sword.
@stephen8433
@stephen8433 2 жыл бұрын
I don't want a sword cane.
@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes
@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes 2 жыл бұрын
Good decision.... stay safe!
@jmholiday
@jmholiday 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t get the rather weird assumption that you would train with a self-defense cane but not a sword cane.
@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes
@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes 2 жыл бұрын
Why would anyone train ir carry a sword cane? It is a fantasy piece...
@haze3433
@haze3433 2 жыл бұрын
@@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes if you carry anything for self-defense it would be expected that you Tran with it then why would it not be the same?
@siekensou77
@siekensou77 Жыл бұрын
@@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes this just screams "Why would anyone train with a _foreign_weapon_here_ ? It is just a fantasy piece!" i know people who have been training with absurdly sized/weighted words. the type one would associate with video games and japanese animation. it is a weapon and to be useful, one would need to train and train properly. someone with a cane without training is going to be just as useless without training
@kengrubb
@kengrubb 2 жыл бұрын
Sticks rule! I trained in FMA for a few years, and I consider myself very modestly skilled. We mostly played with sticks, some with knives, and a little bit with swords. I also know how to use a gun, I trained at the Firearms Academy of Seattle, and I once beat Marty Hayes on the draw in a plate shoot-off, but we're talking a difference of just hundredths of a second. If I had to fight a random stranger, I would choose sticks over knives, swords, or guns. It's too easy to get lucky with a gun or a blade. Sticks don't work unless you know how to operate them. Hand an untrained person a stick and say "Go strike that person over there" and they'll likely attempt an overhead "Caveman" strike to the head, which they'll telegraph from the moment they take hold of the stick. Even if one can legally have a sword cane, if something happens, when the police show up, there will be a tendency to think either dangerous criminal or skilled martial artist. If one has a cane, when the police show up, there will be a tendency to think helpless old person with a cane. Canes over Sword Canes every time!
@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes
@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ken! Stay safe...
@colinburns9736
@colinburns9736 Жыл бұрын
Sorry. Sound intent and respect for that. But this is little more than an unsubstantiated sales pitch for your canes. Anecdotes and claims are not “evidence”. Sorry.
@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes
@CaneMasters-WalkingCanes Жыл бұрын
Hi Colin, we respect your opinion. However, our walking canes are not just for personal protection, they are also for mobility, balance, and support. You can email us at info@canemasters.com if you need anything else.
@melchizedek1552
@melchizedek1552 3 ай бұрын
You are wrong and full of it.
@davidwayne9982
@davidwayne9982 Жыл бұрын
I would LOVE to have a good SWORD cane-- just as a collector's items--- (one of the original DARK SHADOWS canes---) but as I said-- JUST for a collector's item- and wall hanger--- because they are ALL HIGHLY ILLEGAL.. and would be WORSE than carrying an illegal GUN....
@Douglassilva91098
@Douglassilva91098 Жыл бұрын
In brazil you can cary blades, knifes or sword canes whenever you want. You only can not show it ostensively on streets. I also know some iajutsu moviments i trained a while. In brazil you can not have firearms of any time on outside ou inside home. So i'd rather my sword cane made my sensei, friend and forger.
@davidwayne9982
@davidwayne9982 Жыл бұрын
@@Douglassilva91098 AGREED-- wish it were permissable wtih training here too!!!
@Douglassilva91098
@Douglassilva91098 Жыл бұрын
@@davidwayne9982 yeah. Thats the nations rules. Here you can care blades hidden but no way for pistols, revolvers or whatever that shoots. Even to get it on a store just to protect yourself is almost impossible.
@davidwayne9982
@davidwayne9982 Жыл бұрын
@@Douglassilva91098 I figure I'm safer without a gun anyway-- 1- no permits or jail for one 2- can't accidentally miss my attacker and kill someone 30 ft behind them (innocents) 3-carry cane etc. anywhere 4-I won't accidentally kill my attacker if all I need to do is get away or control the situation 5- if filmed by someone with a phone here- it LOOKS defensive- an advantage in court.!! :) 6- no ammo to have to buy and carry.
@Douglassilva91098
@Douglassilva91098 Жыл бұрын
@@davidwayne9982 yeah the advantages. Here only rich people get permits and have money to buy even a simple pistol. I looked at a store once. Its like 5 thousands reais for one. Its like I dont know... 2 or 3 thousand dollars for a simple one. Refiles like AK 47 famous around the world is 40 thousands reais or more. Its like 10 thousands or more dollars. I can buy a normal car with that money lol. There lots of ppl here that wants to change that rules and get more facilities to get guns. Fun fact, all drug dealers or crime bosses and their gang has rifle, pistol and even grenade. Street thugs will usually mug you with switchblades or surround you with two or more often with worn out small pistols or those cheaper revolvers. Anyway blades are allowed to take as long as you don't show it on the street in an ostensive or threatening way. I'm preparing a really cool cane for a project that will last half this year with a master of kenjutsu, fencing and blacksmithing. A cane that shoots an object at only 10 meters at most and that makes smoke and noise. It's not lethal but it hurts. it's called dragon's breath. I don't know if you know it, and besides, a thin European sword measuring 71 centimeters, all inside a cane barrel or scabbard that would have a good thickness. In addition, he will prepare a jacket with no sleeveless, weighing about 5 kilos with ballistic kevlar material that is very resistant to various types of shots. it will be a little expensive, but they are things for personal protection. plus I love that kind of things lol 🤣
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