Same here! :(

Torian's morale is just heartbreaking. He is not bitching, he is not disappointed. He only regrets one thing, that he won't see you again, the one he loves. He knows if this is the best choice to win the war, so be it. True warrior. Earned my respect even more than Vette.

@@xeronylloyd21 Vette whined about it. Like I’m fucking saving my husband tf

nope...

I think it does... it's better as if the last thing you hear is disappointment. It makes Torian appear selfless, compared to Vette who would be happy to sacrifice Torian to live on herself.

Gives this DLC that Telltale undertone

To be fair, it _is_ what would in all likelihood happen. Guys tend to take death better than girls after all.

Torian's a mandalorian. they pretty much accept that they are destined to die. Vette is a former slave who became an underworld slicer/pirate. You can't compare the two.

For that response, I guess she's dying every single time then. Can't stand whiny brats. Joking aside: Frankly, I feel if it were Shae, Elara, Raina, both Jaesas, etc. they would've acted pretty much the same as Torian. It just depends on their commitment to your cause/faction, or personal sense of loyalty to you. Some of the class comps were always more selfish than the others, and were in it for themselves (Gault, Skadge...BH's comps suck man...) And this simply proves that Vette is one of them. From a practical standpoint, you'd want to keep the truly loyal soldiers by your side, and sacrifice the fairweather groupies. But this is obviously just a gender preference choice by the devs.

yarpen26 That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. I bet that if you had a gun pointed at your head, you’d be bawling your eyes out.

@@eriltegoleth4067 Together with the fact that Torian is the representative of the mandalorians in tbe Eternal Alliance, so on top of being unwaiveringly loyal, he's also more pollitically valuable.

xLetalis I cant blame her though. I'd be saddened too if my spouse got me killed.

Vette whines a lot if you choose not to save her. Torian not so much.

well is he a mandelorian - dying in battle is the way to go

Try letting ARCANN live but have VALERIANS Father still contained maybe something different will happen

Mandalorians are destined to die. That sad but he accept his fate. Vett isn't warior/asasin/solider.

I agree

kanel kenny you can actually drop either kylo or jorgan if you order one to stand down in the gemini frequency mission

@kanel kenny: Same here! I would never kill Jorgan, but would have had no emotional problem with sacrificing someone like Skadge, Kaliyo or Xalek, for example. I guess they took these 2 beloved characters on purpose... as they wanted us to become emotional and really take it as a hard decision^^. @DaysLivesDeaths: That's not the point, whatever you do to Jorgan or Kaliyo has no influence on this decision here.

True but torian is leader of a clan that is practically dead even he admits that his clan is pretty much gone so the clan thing is a no go plus we later on get mandalore herself as a companion saying that she is actually solidifying the alliance with the mandalorians so really torian's only use is that he is a mandalorian but then you get mandalore and an alliance with mandalorians so now hes practically useless cannon fodder but that doesn't make vette special no cause her skills are a dime a dozen in the alliance cause with hylo you can technically speaking acquire people who already posses the skills vette has the only reason why one would choose to save vette over torian is that (if you approach this scenario without knowledge of what is gonna happen) as one sees vette is already injured so she has a small chance of surviving and has only a pistol while torian on the other hand has a greater chance of survival cause one hes a fucking mandalorian, (who are already tough as hell cause they can beat jedi and sith) who secondly like vette has fought alot of tough and unique enemies along with the people who they worked with (as in the bounty hunter and sith warrior), not only that but torian also has on him a rifle, actual good mandalorian armor (or so I assume cause he was with the mandalorians for like 5 years so him wearing that special mandalorian iron is not that far fetched), and since hes always armed to the teeth he probably has a few grenades on him as well so again him surviving is not that far fetched and could more than likely have taken on those skytroopers by himself.

Saving Vette doesn't make any sense. Keeping Torian alive is far more beneficial because of that would keep the Alliance's ally Mandalore the Avenger on your side or at least still see you more favorably than otherwise. No one is going to cry over Vette except you if you are the Sith Warrior.

ellchicago gault possibly would also again you get mandalore as a comp and she states that she is finally solidifying the alliance with uh well the alliance plus think of it like this if you piss off mandalore by going darkside during the mandalorian chapter or whatever it is called she could break the alliance that she has with you and tell torian to join her cause you know mandalore's say exceeds what you say for mandalorians.

It is called diplomacy. It is beneficial for the Alliance to have Mandalore the Avenger as a strong ally. The Commander has some explaining to do in Torian dies regardless.

There's not much left of clan Cadera.

And kill Vaylin, if they are already there.

Come on now. Most people would react like Vette did if they were facing their death. Torian is a Mandalorian and thus has been prepared for that moment for a long time.

I choose to save Torian pretty much every time because of this. I mean it's a reasonable response I guess from Vette, but I just can't do that Torian he makes me feel so much more guilty by being nice about it lol

indeed ;]

xLetalis that is why you never piss a mandalorian woman off especially a married mandalorian woman

How about that's why you don't piss off a woman?

AlmightyGamer right? especially since arcann is there. he's more than capable of helping one of them

yep you have point, IMO if you recruited Arcann and Senya, it probably should've been possible to save them both

Because Bioware likes ham-fisted drama. Don't get me wrong, I love Bioware. They've crafted some of the most amazing interactive story experiences I've ever seen, but they don't do relationships or personal drama very well.

Yep, they could do it as ME2, if you do everything right - everyone will survive(for example get both Arcann and Senya to save both Torian & Vette), if not- well, you know...

@@xLetalis Even if you *didn't* recruit Arcann and Senya, Lana & Theron are badasses in their own right, which they seem to remember evry time you walk away.

God, could you IMAGINE a Tali/Garrus Virmire choice? Fuck that.

@@NecroticFarron Garrus is my boy. No way I'd let him die. I like Tali but not anywhere near Garrus level. Now if it were a Liara/Garrus choice, fucking hell... Kill your lover or your best friend - you decide.

@@Velisatra Nah Liara is going down. I'll just bang Garrus instead ahahah

Not necessarily. She's trying to lure you out, face you down and hurt you at the least. Her forces could very easily communicate where you are in relation to the 2 firefights going on. If the officer in charge can relay your position during the rescue, it would only make sense for Vaylin to go after the vulnerable companion. She's a sadist, it's in her strategy to get the weak link as a hostage.

I don't think so, Lana and Theron aren't romanceable after KOTFE/KOTET

Currently no as the those romances must be started chapter 9 before the chapters where they die, but if the next expansion ever comes out Anri, Arn maybe Tau could be romance-able hopefully Anri.

The Arcann one lmao

Vette is gross.

@@ruinerofjokes1418 Bruh, I'm reporting you to the police.

@@foxhound6364 Fuck vette why would you like her?

Because Torian is one of my favorite companions just like Vette - So as sith warrior I would save her and as bounty hunter him - still terrible why didnt they gave us choise between Vette and the orher guy - sry dont remember name - this red skinned guy with broken horn or kylo (ok you could kill her earlier but i still hate her so much) or even jorgan (or not) just not to choose between those two!

You would kill Gault? That would be as hard to me as Vette, as he is just such a funny character. My bounty hunter first went passionate to kill him in the original story, meanwhile he is one of my favourites^^.

after the vanilla stories it all merges together

The one thing I never get where are 7 other class characters at? Are there on vacation or something

@@MattRogan28 in a alternate reality

It was her lack thereof that made Valkorion think she wasn't fit to rule. Valkorion and Arcann were evil, but they could rule their people with control and maturity, both things a good leader needs. Vaylin lacked both.

Insanity is different from Sociopathy. Arcann was driven insane from rage and hate towards his father. Vaylin was born a sociopath. Even as a child she used her force powers to abuse her servants. Just look at the KOTET trailer. During her training she uses the force to nearly crush a bunch of Knights to death, for no other reason than because she could. Sociopaths are born with an inability to feel emotions like compassion. For the most part evil people are made evil by their history and experiences. Sociopaths are the few who are born evil. Vaylin is a sociopath, and therefore would be unsuitable for the throne regardless of how she was treated as a child. Valkorian's actions may have exacerbated the problem, but that darkness was always inside her from the very begining.

Aya Drevis That's a whole load of rubbish. The KotET trailer shows a normal little girl with immense Force powers. She often shows emotions like happyness, anger or sadness, like any normal human being. Her insanity came from a father that ignored her and later locked away her powers instead of teaching her how to use them. And brothers who vied for their father's attention while ignoring their little sister. And a mother who had to leave her children behind.

Bindair Dundat No that girl was crazy...You can't explain to any level of her being fit to do anything ..

Valkorion just wanted to rule forever, he's a selfish asshole and the "not fit to rule" was pure BS from the beginning.

If you mean the voice actor, then yes Torian is Ichigo Kurosaki.

So Cool!

he knows that being a good leader to the galaxy comes before their romantic relationship.

Koss If he acted as you described, it'd make him complete hypocrite. He was always about honor and duty and if he'd have become upset about being sacrificied by his lover, he could not call himslef mandalorian. Also, he has always been stoic, so freaking out about it is out of character.

It's a cultural thing. Mandalorians accept that everything is fleeting. Life and love. You enjoy it and and make the most of it while it's there, but you don't cry over it when it's time for it end. You may not agree with it, but that's how it is.

Wow, you're projecting really hard, went through a tough breakup?

Cupcake, the only thing projected here is your vitriolic butt hurt over a difference of opinion. Suggest going to see a good proctologist regarding those massive hemorrhoids you have dangling back & forth like newtons cradle.