Just an FYI, Chisels are a prominent tool in carpentry and thus chiseled bookshelf makes perfect sense.

I find it odd that one of the complaints is about raw iron. You still have to smelt it to get experience and the ingots; the change was just so you wouldn't have to have two stacks of different kinds of iron ore blocks now that they have deepslate variants of all the ores.

Your beef with the netherite hoe is more or less you being annoyed of the option being there. Just because something might not be a good idea, does that mean they should remove your freedom to do it? If you could make netherite everything except the hoe, I think you'd get a lot more people asking questions.

I have a bigger problem with the lack of interconnectedness, new blocks and items are added but they arent able to be used in many ways. They stand by their lonesome, just added to add more content, rather than add content to expand the possibilities of minecraft

This is probably the worst take I’ve ever seen you make. My man people chisel wood, there’s like an entire industry dedicated to chiselling wood, it makes perfect sense.

I can't wait to see how you defend this outlandish title

bro sounds like an ai

I find the argument about how symmetry destroys mystery or strangeness to be strange. More specifically, symmetry manifests itself in things that require knowledge outside the game, such as many aspects about trading and so on. If you consider knowledge from the point of view of a person who looks at every update on the wiki, then it is possible. But from the point of view of a person who studies the world from scratch... No, I don’t think it can be called that knowable. In many ways, symmetry here also relies on the fact that we do not mention other strange and completely unsymmetrical parts that are added to the game. Like stuffing frogs into hell to produce blocks or the entire part with Ancient Cities. I also do not agree that the very presence of content similar to that in Overword makes Nether similar. Even if there are mirror parts, they are put through a blender and are often destroyed by the living conditions in another dimension and other rules that you need to learn in order to survive there. I can however agree that the feeling of emptiness is lost. The world's population is growing and the world is filling with intelligent life. This is inevitable when you add anything resembling civilization. This simply takes many things from the post-apocalypse stage just now to the post-apocalypse stage a thousand years later. The feeling of loss of wonder and discovery is more related to how well documented all the features that are in each update are. And how easy it is now to find information about them.

To a degree, everything is protected in update history as you can download any version which is good.

I'm very much failing to see how letting players make cherry wood buttons is eroding the soul of Minecraft

This gives off old man yelling at the clouds vibe. It reminds me of the genwunner arguments that were around back in 5th gen Pokémon.

I agree with the “symmetrical blocks”. The raw ores aren’t too bad though. I think it’s more realistic, but at the same time, we’re talking realism in a block game.

Using modern footage when talking about old Minecraft really doesn’t fit

I know this might come off as simple-minded or entitled, but I, like many others, subscribed to this channel because of the build the earth project. It was hopeful, optimistic, and inspiring, and even if as time went on it seemed more and more impossible to actually pull off, the progress was always great to see. It felt good to watch. Videos like this feel like the opposite from your old stuff in terms of vibe. It's ragey, pessimistic, and nitpicky, and respectfully I'm not really here for it. Not saying branching out to other topics is a bad idea, but the vibes are off on this channel, and they have been for a while.

I don't like many of the changes they've made to Minecraft, especially now that I'm no longer the target audience, haha. But sometimes I feel like people are trying to revive something that no longer exists-the feeling of playing Minecraft with little information about everything and that sense of endless discovery got stuck in its time because nowadays there's no room for it to be like that. Games are different now, and even if you try to simulate that feeling, it will feel very fake because it's tied to that era. The closest I've come to that was watching gameplay of a game called '4D Miner'; it has exactly the aspect that the early versions of Minecraft had. I don't think you can simply discard the crafting recipe book of the game and expect it to return to how it was before. I don't know if it's possible to add more things to the game without losing the essence of the old versions because the emptiness was part of the game.

This same guy would complain if there wasn’t a Netherite hoe and then use it to make the argument Mojang is lazy.

If you think netherack is vomit colored I think you need to go to a doctor

Bro I don’t think any rational human being played Minecraft back in the day thinking “man I love Minecraft this feels like a post apocalyptic horror game” I think we played it because we liked to build things and that was uniquely Minecraft at the time. The loneliness was just something we started over analyzing about a year or two ago. Truth is we were all kids playing the game who found it creepy knowing the world was infinite because we didn’t know every finite detail about the game and therefore we worried herobrine was out there because something had to be. But Minecraft never seemed intentionally creepy beyond the cave sounds but the overall atmosphere was not creepy.

i understand your take, but it just aint that deep

I agree that the general feel of Minecraft has become less mysterious (which isn't necessarily a problem), but I also think you're over-dramatizing very specific cases of symmetry as the leading cause of this.

Let's not forget here that randomness is something that a lot of players find annoying. If skill and understanding of a game still fails to get you what you desire it can be frustrating and disheartening. Adding order and learnable predictability allows players to feel rewarded for learning skill and understanding of the game mechanics. Instead of feeling ripped off when they fail for reasons outside of their control.

This person knows how to take b-roll, that's for sure

Hoes can destroy leaves, haybale, and similar blocks for a few years now. They're useful.

I feel like saying the nether became just a parallel to the overworld is a disservice to what it actually is nowadays. The old nether used to unnerve with the rocky mess that netherrack was and the seemingly hivemind-like zombie pigmen, you couldn't exactly tell if the netherrack was a red rock or something else, and now?, the old messy netherrack is now ground made of flesh, it only takes trying to break it to realize that, the zombie pigmen now existing alongside their still living brethren, scaring them. The new wood types aren't exactly symmetrical either, you cannot make a boat out of crimson fungi, despite that wood being fireproof, for you to travel the sea of lava you need to ride whatever the strider even is, the basalt deltas being the very definition of chaos, pillars of rock without rhyme or reason filled with many pockets of lava and slimes of magma. While I can't exactly argue against the nether not being remade to be a parallel to the overworld, because it was, I do think that it was changed while trying to keep in mind the unnerving aspect it originally had, however we can no longer feel that as much, because we have already experienced it, and a fancier nether that tried to be unnerving in a more refined way to keep with the growing standards of microsoft and mojang was not enough. I do agree however, that realism is hurting the essence of minecraft, it is when the updates do not try to be fully realistic when it truly shines, pillager raids bringing massive monstrosities which look like a mutated villager, the overwhelming power of the warden in ancient cities deep underground covered by some sort of life-absorbing growth, these sprouts of uniqueness, of chaos, however, are contained in specific parts, you need to kill a pillager with a banner and then go to a village to experience the havoc that a raid causes, and to see the skulk you need to find an ancient city deep underground, so you are right to some extent, tons of changes are making minecraft more symmetrical and orderly, and the chaos that is brought alongside it is not really enough to keep the mix that was originally present in old versions of the game. overall I didn't really enjoy the video but if we look at the positive side, I was able to somehow grab the good things of the latest updates (updates that I don't really enjoy that much because modded mc warped my taste too much) just because it left me so annoyed so... thumbs up? gonna keep watching your videos but not commenting because I write too much, also not gonna respond to any replies here because I will just not check.

Me who uses the recipe book for literally everything I craft

one thing that I dislike in the game is copper, they were added so late into the game it's become useless. it feels like they only added copper for the sake of having more decorative blocks and loosely related items to go with it (they made spyglass just to make 2 new items less useless). I know minecraft isn't a real life simulator but it mimics life to a certain level, you start with wooden tools, then collect stone, then use stone tools to collect iron... wait? stone age to iron age? where's the bronze age? copper is an ore that should be in the game from the start (just like ruby that later became emerald, it would make no sense for ruby to return, it's already too late). copper irl has a lower melting point, that's why early humans started developing copper tools. then from copper we made a copper and tin alloy which is bronze and it has the advantage of being sturdier than copper and still somewhat easy to cast with. from there it makes sense to evolve to iron, so why did mojang bother adding copper so late into the game? we're used to jumping from stone to iron, it feels natural in the game, so I think copper was added too late and even though it's a good decorative block it falls short. as a side note, had redstone never existed copper could replace it making wires but I'm glad they went the other way because wiring is too modern and that breaks the vibe of the game

While I agree with a few of the things in this video, most of this just comes off as "old Minecraft good, new Minecraft bad".

I was thinking about something like this recently Like, trees would never work how they do now with floating leaves immediately dropping a whole sapling that you just place on yhe ground that grows ibto another I feel like if they were added now, it would be a seed. Idk if this is good or bad but i sure did think about it

Idk, i like order in games, and i never considered minecraft to be a game where your objective is to survive the omnipresent chaos, but rather a game where you can use the mechanics the world gives you to thrive in it. The new updates, the piglins, the new trading systems, just give you new mechanics to use for your advantage

step 1. go into the minecraft launcher step 2. select older minecraft version step 3. you are now playing chaotic minecraft!!!!

I see no problem at all with the iron and gold getting something other then the raw block out when you mine it. Because now you can turn that raw iron and gold into storable blocks the same as the other minerals. Making it not only more immersive because it's more realistic and more convenient gameplay wise.

So, first of all. I think that Minecraft most certainly has lost its art direction, which I think would be a more apt way to describe the new changes that are being implented. The problem I see with contemporary minecraft, as opposed to the minecraft around the adventure update, is that there seems to be no overall theme or direction that minecraft wants to go in. At first, we could easily say that Minecraft was truly an proceduraly generated sandbox game. The only thing limiting you was your imagination. Today, however, Minecraft has included many RPG and Adventure themes to the game that clash with the sandbox themes that originally were there. Loads of structures, loads of loot, bosses (The ender dragon was fine as a "last" boss for fun), lots of new enemies, villages now offer you everything, enchanting is seen as "late game", netherrite forces progression, the Nether is *sooo* meaninglessly cluttered now and hardly anyone does anything with it besides gets blaze rods and leave.. (the thing you did before the updates) Not to mention the other meaningless items and mobs that seem straight out of modded minecraft rather than vanilla, sniffer, phantom, goat, horse (Literally pulled from Mo'Creatures). What does the Warden and the deep dark do to contribute to the overall Art direction and themes of minecraft?? And a quick word, I don't think it's impossible for Minecraft to expand on its depth. Everything can improve! The point is that it needs to be added taking into account existing game systems and the overall theme of the game. That procedurally generated sandbox. "Let's go to a place.. where everything is made of blocks.. with the only limit is your imagination" ~ Official Minecraft Trailer That being said, I do wanna quickly say that I don't think there is objective art and it's as easy as an argument as "Some people don't regard X work of art the same as others" You showed many well known paintings, and while I can admit it takes skill and thought to make those paintings, I don't think they're that astounding. There is a subjective difference. This inescapable conundrum can only mean that art is subjective. Rather, I'd make a distinction between *ART* and Art. Where *ART* is developed based on personal philosophies and skills developed over time. A truly heartfelt project. And Art is simply things that look good for no other reason than "They look good".

Ngl this vids a miss for me, feels like your just saying old=good and new=bad trying to make having nostalgia sound profound, I could nitpick most of your points but I see lots of people have already done that, no offence intended this just wasn’t the right vid for me I guess

this entire video can be summarized with "nostalgia good modern bad"

when you play this at 2x speed he sounds like Jerma985

this is so melodramatic bruh

I fail to see how convenient features like recipe book and how actually good looking textures and artstyle consistency is a bad thing apparently lmao

For anyone feeling nostalgic for old Minecraft, whether you experienced it in its hayday or retrospectively like I did, I highly recommend the Better Than Adventure mod. It feels like what would have been made had Microsoft not acquired Mojang. It feels like Minecraft.

Personally all the changes you mentioned are ones I actually liked. I think the game just needs a magic update or some shit, really let the devs flex their creative muscles.

I forgot this is a minecraft video halfway through

Or play an old update version like I do

Huh I love these new changes, but more power to you I guess.

I... Wha... Huh? What? Why did you just spend almost 3 minutes explaining your opinion on the universe to then rant about things in Minecraft being similar to other things in Minecraft, and then suggest that that's eroding the soul of Minecraft because Microsoft bad. I don't under... What? Don't get me wrong, Microsoft sucks, but this is the thing you choose complain about? I'm so confused, because you made, in my opinion, good video essays in the past, especially the modding one which is ironic since you deleted it, even though you were right. But this one, this one's a miss. While I was writing this I looked at other comments and a lot of them think that this was basically you saying "nostalgia/old is good, modern/new is bad" and I kinda agree with them.

Remember when this channel was exclusively about recreating the Earth in Minecraft? If this dude wants to rant about things like this just make a second channel. I subscribed to see the progression of Minecraft Earth, not personal rants.

Not feeling this one, dawg.

if your vomit is the colour of netherrack you should go see a doctor immediately

So what I've gathered is that every time you talk about Minecraft being symmetrical, you are talking about Minecraft having consistent game design and in-universe logic, got it

I was literally just thinking about your videos.

The “vibe” of Minecraft is different now, but not worse. You view QOL changes as changing the soul of Minecraft, and I don’t disagree. I simply think regarding the old version as sacred is really stupid. You can argue that the old nether rack texture was a better embodiment of chaos and whatever else the nether is supposed to represent, I’d argue it’s an eyesore and you need to stop idolizing it or we’re never gonna get anywhere.

If you play the minecraft versions in reverse chronological order, it becomes a story of a one prosperous and elegant world, slowly succumbing to the slow, but unstoppable, force which is time and entropy itself, becoming but a mere plane of grass blocks and cobble stone which was the first vision of minecraft made.

"with no tutorial but google" *laughs in Console Edition*

Bro turned into exurb1a for a second there

I swear nostalgia hungry people will complain about the tiniest things..

i don't think Microsoft changed the texture of netherrack because it was somehow "too unnerving". i think they changed it because it looked like dog doodoo

Ngl beta Minecraft was the most "fever dream" experience ever I definitely understand that point.

There are a lot of things wrong with modern minecraft, OTHER than terrain generation which produces an infinite surprisingly consistent pattern, I don't agree that symmetry is the problem. I wish tehre was a setting in vanilla minecraft for giant, realistic terrain features, not because I need the block game to be realistic, but because I think that the natural beauty is superior and giant rivers going places are cool. My biggest problem with minecraft is that the oceans, despite the life and stuff in them, feel fake because they're always so incredibly small. There are no continents. You are in an infinite Finland, or Minnesota, and the "oceans" are really lakes at best. I wish that most of the world was water, with continents. Not uncrossably large, but significant enough that the land has actual geographic location. So that places feel like places even when you look at them on a map, or from above, and not just a point in an infinite pattern.

I can see where you’re going, but at the same time, it helps more newer people see things more clearly. Plus, we have mods.

I swear to God you can talk for an hour and not even have said anything

I really need the shrooms you consume bro

His complaint about the nether is strange? He likes the old one because it felt more 'chaotic', like how you would expect hell to feel, and his primary complaint about the new one is that with the addition of biomes and the changing of textures, that it feels too much like a clone of the overworld. If chaos is what you strive for, then why is change bad? Why is the addition of multiple new biomes, enemies, etc., to change up the otherwise dull nether bad? The old netherrack texture did feel more noisy and subsequently chaotic, but the fact is that the old nether was boring, one static sea of unchanging red and orange, as far as you could go - it would never change. That isnt exactly how i would define chaos, i'd call that orderly. The new nether, by contrast, well, contrasts - vast swathes of new hazards make the player experience much scarier, and the variety can carry a players unnerved feeling much further than the old nether. Nostalgia is a hell of a thing, and while im not denying that the old nether was scary, im also saying that the new one is too, just in a new, chaotic, way.

7:56 endermen have been able to spawn in the nether since version 1.10

Crafter and copper-bulb moment 😭😭😭😭

I think this is why I always play with Terralith, it just adds so many biomes that feel chaotic

Bro changed the title topic to another topic in less than a minute💀

Where’s the existential rant

"Symmetry dear steinman, it's time we did something about symmetry"

I see it more as multiplication, like the area of a rectangle; a standardized chart perhaps. Maybe it is too simple, but people would be a bit miffed if the developers didn't fill in the blanks. Netherbrick fence gate.

I didnt understand why minrcraft got more boring to me, like i knew everything about a seemingly infinite world This puts that feeling to words without me needing to put any time into it, thanks

oh my god he's gonna do it..

The difference between "notch Minecraft" and currently Minecraft is definitely something i have noticed as well in recent years

this is primarily the reason i mostly play modded now

Minecraft has made the suddle changes of creativity to bland tyranny...

What is the name of the music playing at 3:17?

Hi Pippen

"Just don't make it, bro."

I like jazz

PIPPEN

This feels like a very classic video made by a very classic older player of the game. The common, "notch minecraft good" "microsoft minecraft bad" opinions of things. I can agree with the sentiment of enjoying the old minecraft. I remember loving it when it came out on PS3 back when I was a kid. But most of the arguments for why minecraft nowadays is bad seem pretty one-note. You hate a lot of things about the new minecraft because the features it introduced are new. You don't seem to take into consideration how minecraft had to change and reinvent itself as time went on due to the changing demographic of its playerbase and the direction which the developers themselves wanted to go in. To specifically attack your points. The one about the chiseled bookshelf is really dumb, since you seem to be breaking your own thinking. You're mad about the item being named "chiseled" even though that is the correct name for such an ornate looking bookshelf. You can chisel wood... Also your point about the new raw iron and raw gold being involved now in the exact same process as coal or diamonds is infinitely stupid since you still need to smelt that iron or gold to get a useful item. Your point about the nether is alright, I do agree that in redesigning the netherrack mojang could have done a better job, but to say that microsoft maliciously brought down the iron fist and commanded that the netherrack block be changed to reflect order instead of chaos is baseless. Complaining about the new nether tree crafting recipes being the same as overworld wood as a result of microsoft and the "new minecraft" is strange since so many of notch's original minecraft crafting recipes were based on repeating patterns, wether that be pressure plates, tools, armour, etc, so to complain only when microsoft repeats patterns is very one sided. I also really don't like the constant Notch dick riding, calling him a magnificent artist who had zero bad ideas ever and who now has ridden off into the sunset to craft his next masterpiece, with the craven overlords of microsoft left to milk the now rotting corpse of minecraft for every dollar is genuinely really cringe. That's all

0:39 …I like symmetry.

Just a reminder. Humanity was not on earth one million years ago. The homo sapiens specie is documented of first living in around 300.000 yeas ago.

The more I watch this the more I feel like I'm listening to a Minecraft boomer lecturing me about how old Minecraft was better while he pushes up his rose tinted nostalgia glasses. Iron ore was changed because deepslate ore would just be another burdon on the invitory that hasn't scaled with the new content updates. Chiseled shelves were probably given that name because it's familiar and because, let's face it, there's not a lot of other adjectives one could use to distinguish it. The ild netherrack texture looked like nothing but a bunch of random pixels. It didn't look disturbing to me, it just looked like some pace holder texture. I fail to see how the nether isn't still a photo negative. If anything, I'd argue it wasn't one to begin with. It's still hellish, it's more unsettling than ever with its ambience, it's just less boring. If that's the direction a "corporate monolith" takes Minecraft, then I say keep it coming. Next, "the villagers are supposed to be nitwits" according to who? And why are villager trades more "corporate"? The inconsistency of the old trade system only made it shallow and annoying. You also seem to give Notch way too much credit. All you seem do be complaining about are petty changes and shallow aspects of the game being expanded upon. Many of these additions are logical for game development, and it say Notch wouldn't add these things is a very grand assumption from my perspective. Besides, as far as "corporate" games go, Minecraft is tame. When I think"corporate game", I think $70 unoptumuzed buggy mess with more effort put into the microtransactions than the actual gameplay. Sorry to be so blunt, but what you're describing as "chaos" just sounds like an unpolushed product mixed with nostalgia for a time when Minecraft was still pretty obscure. Is Minecraft perfect? No. But that's due to factors not discussed in this video. That's my take at least.

finally another philosophy lesson

It is scary to think that many chaos features such as Creepers, lightning, and TNT, might not be in the game if it was added now.

Usually I’m in total agreement with your takes on this game, once I’ve heard what you have to say. Usually your arguments make sense to me, cause something to click. Not feeling that so much with this one. Couldn’t tell you why, I just don’t agree. Minecraft is a more enjoyable game to play with its new features than it was without, to me.

The rambling of a mad man, high on the ideas of grandeur to make a world in a block game. Philosophy does not suit this game.

Chaos: good Order: bad Bro, what?

Lately I’ve been playing beta 1.7.3 with my little brother, and I agree that it has something which modern Minecraft doesn’t: its soul.

the great thing is you can just boot up the old versions 🤷‍♂

I always make a netherite hoe

Chaos and order. Assassin's creed moment 4:47 damm

Fun fact: 96% of the people acting hyper defensive (and hostile) regarding this critique who gaslight "bro it's just nostalgia grow up" utterly refuse to even launch an older version of the game, and have never played it. Your opinion and personal experiences mean that little to them. They just want to complain about you complaining, because in their eyes you need to have tangible proof or they will never believe you. You do have that proof, but you need to convince them to try it out. But they are too prideful or dismissive to give it more than a thought. The ironic thing is that at the time of making this comment, there is a HUGE resurgance of pre-microsoft era playcounts, and it is a recent trend to look at and play older versions of Minecraft specifically because the newer versions fail to replicate (or definitively improve upon) previous versions. They'll attempt to gaslight you with "oh it's just a wave of nostalgic man-babies!" But we all know they're just deathly afraid of the pre-microsoft netherrack texture.

this is a minecraft video wtf are you waffling about

the netherite hoe is in the game as a meme item

I didn’t like the piglins and stuff, I liked the zombiepigmen, the original guys

this script was run through chatgpt 1 too many times

you should have used footage of old minecraft when talking about it

banger thumbnail, out of context

The nether was a great example for this

I like the changes

Ok bro, you don’t have to play the new versions lol