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Synergistic Master and Purple Fuse Listening Tests

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THE ABSOLUTE SOUND

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Күн бұрын

Newcomer to the TAS reviewing team Richard Drutman, shares his thoughts and experiences in listening to Synergistic Research's Master and Purple fuses.
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@jonnoabody2208
@jonnoabody2208 6 ай бұрын
The comments are more entertaining than the video.
@Esprits4s
@Esprits4s 6 ай бұрын
Putting aside the possibility of audible improvement through the use of a fuse and SR's marketing tactics, it's worth repeating that the reviewer didn't even get the actual reason for fuses in consumer electronics correct. Fuses aren't going to protect your equipment from under-voltage or over-voltage due to AC supply issues (like the power outages in NY he mentions). There are other devices (transient voltage suppressors) and external solutions (power conditioners/UPS) for these issues. The fuse is there only to melt and break the circuit when there is an over-current condition typically caused by a failure in the device itself. So, when your amp fails with an internal short it doesn't draw excessive current, heat up, and start a fire... Maybe you should review if the fuses do their actual job as well as the fuses that come in the device from the manufacturer (the fuses that were in place when the device was most likely UL certified). Maybe conduct a test to see if they blow at the rated current? It seems that "do no harm" should apply to what should be a safety component first and foremost. I expect that they will, for probably obvious reasons, but, interestingly, there is zero discussion on the SR website or in this review about the performance of these fuses as safety devices.
@theodorew.denneyiii2695
@theodorew.denneyiii2695 6 ай бұрын
This may come as a surprise, like power cords that some still unbelievably refuse to acknowledge despite the fact it’s been overwhelmingly obvious for over 20 years now that PCs play a pivotal role in the way all systems sound, but I digress, fuses, like power cords, are extremely popular in high-end Audio, among audiophiles, who own actual high-performance stereos, guys who don’t simply type on online forums to express their ignorance, actual audiophiles with high-performance systems, purchase thousands of high-end fuses every year, over 10,000 annually from my company Synergistic Research alone, this may surprise you. Because the difference is night and day, where all SR fuses are sold with a 30-day no risk, money back guarantee, with a less than 2% return rate.
@scottwheeler2679
@scottwheeler2679 5 ай бұрын
B.S. plenty of us own real high end systems and don’t use any Synergistic Research scam products. Their business is pure consumer fraud.
@Esprits4s
@Esprits4s 5 ай бұрын
I agree 100% I love this hobby, but companies like SR really take advantage of enthusiasts. They aren't the only ones though, and they don't force anyone to buy their products.@@scottwheeler2679
@a0r0a7
@a0r0a7 2 ай бұрын
@@scottwheeler2679 vibratron😂 sticky bits of metal you attach to the front and sides of speaker cabinets, please. Agree with you.
@a0r0a7
@a0r0a7 2 ай бұрын
@@theodorew.denneyiii2695 so do your SR fuses work in the event of component failure as per the manufacturer fuse? I would hope so considering the cost of a small piece of encapsulated wire. Explain why your fuses cost so much that I would like to know?
@diapason8326
@diapason8326 5 ай бұрын
I like how Ted can't even get the SR sticker to stay adhered to the 10 cent fuses the video shows over and over.
@NathanSweet
@NathanSweet Ай бұрын
The sticker is where all the acoustic improvements are.
@yoddeb
@yoddeb 6 ай бұрын
He even talks about burning in the fuses. Batshit.
@a0r0a7
@a0r0a7 3 ай бұрын
Agree, a fuse is for protection not sound quality. Utter nonsense.
@BopWalk
@BopWalk 2 ай бұрын
​@@a0r0a7 Then explain how my purple Fuse changed the sound immediately after I inserted it into my Gustard DAC? This fuse is doing something to the current which affects the capacitors which in turn affects the signal chain.
@a0r0a7
@a0r0a7 2 ай бұрын
@@BopWalk if you measure the loop impedance of your original fuse and your purple fuse ensuring you have replaced for safety the correct value and fuse type specification, slow or fast blow you will get the same reading. It is a very short piece of wire. Measure the voltage and current through both fuses before and after the fuse and tell me what you get? So you say you replaced the fuse, did you immediately swap back and listen, then do it again and again or get someone to change the fuse without you knowing what one was in situ and you correctly picked your purple fuse? A fuse is a passive device. So a small piece of wire will improve the dynamics, soundstage, detail etc...? Perhaps you explain? I understand electronics, circuit level, component level, pcb design. A fuse is chosen for safety, only if a condition on the circuit takes place that is extreme will the fuse then blow to protect further damage or at best prevent a fire. Any fuse of the same specifications will pass the necessary current to those capacitors you talk about, it does not make sexy current to improve the audio. Nothing fancy going on inside a fuse.
@nerdvana2
@nerdvana2 6 ай бұрын
I'll keep my own opinions on this to myself, but here's an indisputable fact: A typical consumer fuse is nothing but a 1-2" long conductor; a piece of thin, low-melting-point metal. It has very, very low resistance (because it's just a short piece of metal,) and it has very, very low impedance (having almost no inductance or capacitance, because it's so small.) It's wired in series with other conducting paths in the product and it breaks the flow of current, when that current exceeds its rated capacity. It's extremely likely, that the conductors/wiring a fuse is in series with are lengthier than 1-2", and that they have much greater (although still minimal) impact on performance than the fuse can have. That's it. In normal operation, a fuse's sole purpose is to conduct current without impeding the flow of current, just like the short piece of wire it is. As others have said, a fuse has no capability to compensate for power-line sags or bumps. Further, fuses are normally used in power-supply stages. Many times, immediately after the power cable itself. It's almost universal that various stages of filtering occur after a fuse, further damping any possible effect it might have by not acting like a simple stub of wire. Given that, and without any objective evidence to show real performance differences, we'll all have to make up our own minds on the value of replacing one almost-free piece of 1-2" metal with another that costs hundreds of bucks.
@theodorew.denneyiii2695
@theodorew.denneyiii2695 6 ай бұрын
This may come as a surprise, like power cords that some still unbelievably refuse to acknowledge despite the fact it’s been overwhelmingly obvious for over 20 years now that PCs play a pivotal role in the way all systems sound, but I digress, fuses, like power cords, are extremely popular in high-end Audio, among audiophiles, who own actual high-performance stereos, guys who don’t simply type on online forums to express their ignorance, actual audiophiles with high-performance systems, purchase thousands of high-end fuses every year, over 10,000 annually from my company Synergistic Research alone, this may surprise you. Because the difference is night and day, where all SR fuses are sold with a 30-day no risk, money back guarantee, with a less than 2% return rate.
@Esprits4s
@Esprits4s 6 ай бұрын
:) Don't try to bring science or engineering into the discussion. You'll get TD's repeated non-answer: 1. Your stereo sucks and isn't resolving enough to hear the difference (or you've never actually tried). 2. SR sells 10k units per year, so there must be a benefit to having so many happy customers. 3. SR offers a 30-day money back guarantee (we've all seen the use of money back guarantees in every single late night infomercial. It's standard fare for these types of products, especially when they cost a small fraction of the sales price to make).
@theodorew.denneyiii2695
@theodorew.denneyiii2695 5 ай бұрын
@@Esprits4sdon’t try to listen to something into a hobby that’s all about listening.
@a0r0a7
@a0r0a7 3 ай бұрын
@@theodorew.denneyiii2695 a fuse sole job is protection. Question for SR, what test/ certification has your overpriced pieces of wire fuses passed for approval for use, just like most of the aftermarket audiophile power cords, no certification approvals at all.
@joetaylor7952
@joetaylor7952 5 ай бұрын
I'm truly astonished that someone is marketing this stuff. I bought one of these 15 or so years ago when they were maybe 50 or 75 bucks. My amp was blowing fuses, so I bought a replacement but did a comparison, as calmly and in as reasonable a way as I could, and I really heard no difference between a .50 fuse and the $50 dollar one I was using. I spoke to an electrical engineer about the whole concept of high end fuses and he just laughed. Of all the preposterous claims in the audiophile world, he said, that topped the list.
@EricRhodeslives
@EricRhodeslives 4 ай бұрын
EE's are the WORST people to consult about audio. Lmao. Not their field. But their egos will tell you otherwise.
@razzman2987
@razzman2987 4 ай бұрын
Buy a good amp 😅
@a0r0a7
@a0r0a7 3 ай бұрын
@@EricRhodeslives incredible how a piece of wire v all the clever engineered circuitry and components can change the tonality and soundstage, think about that🤔
@Borednlonely
@Borednlonely 2 ай бұрын
@@EricRhodeslivesspot on. They laugh off claims about a dedicated radial improving audio quality. They think they know it all because they’ve done an electrical engineering course.
@russellparker4568
@russellparker4568 2 ай бұрын
Just because you couldn’t hear it for whatever reason doesn’t mean anyone else can’t. Also just because an electrical engineer says it’s rubbish doesn’t make it rubbish. Im tired of hearing EE’s claim they can tell the full story just because they have been trained to use a machine which clearly has its limitations.
@BassNotes
@BassNotes 6 ай бұрын
This is all plausible when you don't know how anything works.
@theodorew.denneyiii2695
@theodorew.denneyiii2695 6 ай бұрын
You know what’s not plausible, that Synergistic Research could sell 10,000 fuses every single year with a 30 day no risk moneyback guarantee if as you assert, the fuses do nothing.
@BassNotes
@BassNotes 6 ай бұрын
@@theodorew.denneyiii2695 Oh, I'm sure the fuses do something, like all fuses do. I'm sure they're every bit as good as 75-cent fuses, only with a fancy label pasted on. As for selling their supposedly magic properties to gullible buyers, well, as P.T. Barnum said, "There's a sucker born every minute."
@richardelliott8352
@richardelliott8352 6 ай бұрын
@@theodorew.denneyiii2695 that reply says nothing about the product, just the marketing. The same thing is used for dick pills. If they were taken to court for fraud, the easy out would be to tell the judge we offered a complete refund , so any fraud would be the consumers choice.
@QuintEssential-sz2wn
@QuintEssential-sz2wn 6 ай бұрын
That's like saying "billions believe X religion so it must be true!" or "How could so many people pay astrologers and psychics if those people didn't have those powers?" In other words, your argument is just a basic refusal to acknowledge the power of human imagination and bias. Science arose for a reason.@@theodorew.denneyiii2695
@scottwheeler2679
@scottwheeler2679 6 ай бұрын
That’s very plausible. Psychics have been satisfying customers for centuries. There’s a large paranormal market
@mattdudamusic
@mattdudamusic 6 ай бұрын
Did these fuses cause the audio of this KZfaq video to present as a brick wall low pass filter at 8kHz?
@matthewhilty4209
@matthewhilty4209 2 ай бұрын
Why don't these fuse reviews include a silver plated copper slug as a control ? I understand that this defeats the purpose of the fuse but having a control in an experiment is important.
@DMS3TV
@DMS3TV 5 ай бұрын
Some people clearly don’t feel shame, huh?
@intothevoid9831
@intothevoid9831 2 ай бұрын
Stick to reviewing lo-fi headphones,.
@patrickguice
@patrickguice 6 ай бұрын
“ there appears to be more meat on the bone” I’m sure after you empty out your wallet and then there’s less meat on your bones
@markfischer3626
@markfischer3626 6 ай бұрын
As an electrical engineer I find it impossible to take this seriously. We have knowledge gained through our education to analyze and understand how electrical networks behave with great accuracy. We also know that any audible differences are invariably the result in changes in frequency response of the overall system. What each component including wires and fuses do in a particular circuit depends not only on the device itself but on the impedances of all elements in each circuit including the impedance of the source nd load. The most effective way to control system frequency response is with an equalizer. It requires an acquired skill and a good musical ear to use one properly to get the desired results. Professional audio installations including recording studios and mixing and mastering studios find them indispensable. But they generate not much profit and most audiophiles don't have the skills to use them effectively. Being a powerful tool they can do more harm than good.
@edd2771
@edd2771 6 ай бұрын
I agree completely, and though the impact of the product is essentially random as you point out, depending on the other devices involved, I would add that regardless, any changes brought by these fuses, while potentially measurable, are unlikely to be audible in normal use, and very unlikely to audible in a blind comparison. I appreciate you being so matter-of-fact with your opinions (its what's needed in discussions of devices of this type), but be careful... People here get VERY upset.
@goodsound4756
@goodsound4756 6 ай бұрын
EQ comes at a prize: phase shifts and comb filter effects. That's way Audiophiles stay away from that stuff, not because they're to unskilled to use.
@theodorew.denneyiii2695
@theodorew.denneyiii2695 6 ай бұрын
We sell over 10,000 fuses every single year with a 30-day moneyback guarantee. During their development, we use double blind testing. Care to guess what percentage of fuses are returned? Less than 2%. Your opinions are erroneous, in that they are based on nothing but your unscientific conjecture absent any meaningful experiments, let alone first hand knowledge. Good day, gentlemen.
@Esprits4s
@Esprits4s 6 ай бұрын
You don't double blind test any of your products. If you did and only made products that could reliably be identified, you would have an empty catalog...
@edd2771
@edd2771 6 ай бұрын
@@Esprits4s Lets be clear... speakers, amps, preamps, cartridges... these are electronic products with differences that can be heard without blind testing. The very variety of the designs involved makes it obvious. Now a $600 fuse? It's just my hunch it cant be heard, and blind testing, in a case like that, is a good idea in my view.
@edd2771
@edd2771 6 ай бұрын
What is a "liquid texture"? What does it mean to be "one with the acoustic space?" What are "more expansive" bells? How do horns have "more reverb" when horns don't have reverb in the first place? I want to be respectful, but you really hear all this? From the fuses?? It's not imagined? Its not due to the inherent nature of the remainder of the system?
@davewin1792
@davewin1792 6 ай бұрын
Look up audiophile terminology.
@edd2771
@edd2771 6 ай бұрын
@@davewin1792 you mean like "musical", "transparent", "forward", "bright", "present" ""balanced" , "rolled off", "compressed" etc? Yes I am familiar with these terms. But what does he mean, exactly, by the terms he's using? And how, precisely, are they attributable to the fuses (and only the fuses) used?
@richardelliott8352
@richardelliott8352 6 ай бұрын
@@davewin1792 it's simply that "jaw dropping " and":magical " became so over used, people were beginning to realize what was up.
@davewin1792
@davewin1792 6 ай бұрын
We're all guilty of using these terms.@@richardelliott8352
@barrowsworm1226
@barrowsworm1226 6 ай бұрын
Ha ha ha. If you actually "want to be respectful" maybe you should actually be so! Commenting on something which you have no experience with serves no one.
@ronnierafferty478
@ronnierafferty478 6 ай бұрын
Take the label off the fuses that’s all they have done to the fuse is put a sticky label around them.
@scottwheeler2679
@scottwheeler2679 6 ай бұрын
But then it won’t sound as magical.
@ronnierafferty478
@ronnierafferty478 5 ай бұрын
Or will that be because you will realise it’s just a standard fuse you can buy from anywhere. Prove it’s been made by them and it’s not just been rebranded with just a sticker and everything you say you heard is actually bull. Placebo effect etc….. if I was given something for free I’d say it sparkles glitter as well but you know you aren’t going to do that are you.
@edd2771
@edd2771 6 ай бұрын
I have a hypothesis that will be upsetting to many people here. It is that devices such as these fuses do not make any audible difference in a blind AB compare test against conventional fuses. I think it’s an experiment worth trying. Everything this reviewer says he is “noticing” about these fuses may be real. Or it may placebo effect and/or confirmation bias. Isn’t this a question worth testing, especially for a product like this which is easy to switch in and out? For those who may be upset with the mere idea of doing so, what are the reasons not do such a simple test? What is the case for maintaining willful ignorance regarding what may (or may not) be a psychologically induced opinion of these items?
@arize84
@arize84 6 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure people that have bought the fuses have compared them to stock fuses. I'm sure you also think power cables don't make a difference. Give it a rest.
@edd2771
@edd2771 6 ай бұрын
@@arize84 If they did it with a friend switching them when they weren’t looking then god bless… what they hear is unaffected by what they want to hear. If not, they might find testing my hypothesis valuable. On the other hand, if you can’t make a case for why one WOULDN’T want to do the testing i describe, then I suggest you give it a rest.
@edd2771
@edd2771 6 ай бұрын
@@arize84 And no... power cables don't make a difference on a blind compare basis either. Amir has tested them and found they dont even make a measured difference..
@Audiofreak71
@Audiofreak71 6 ай бұрын
@@edd2771He sure did , without plugging the cable in 🤦🏽‍♂️😂🤡
@edd2771
@edd2771 6 ай бұрын
@@Audiofreak71 doesn’t matter. There is plenty that can be measured that can’t be heard. Unless you compare blind you dont know what you’re really hearing. I recommend people do so before buying a $600 fuse 🤣 That’s all
@patrickguice
@patrickguice 6 ай бұрын
Good idea to get a handle with the fuses are doing or not doing yeah taking your money is what they’re doing.
@chuckmaddison2924
@chuckmaddison2924 2 ай бұрын
The fuse isn't to protect the equipment. Its to protect your wiring and ultimately your house, Don't want to smoke test the house .
@johncallaghan3097
@johncallaghan3097 2 ай бұрын
Here in the UK, we have 13A fuses in all our mains plugs, and QSA (stands for Quantum Science Audio -- yes, I know; just stick "quantum" in something and we're meant to swoon -- produces a series of such 13A fuses. They start around £50 with the Black, £86 with the Light Blue, finally £200 with the Yellow in their "entry"(!) level fuses. From there they go on to mains plug fuses costing up to £8000 (the Gold) believe it or not. I was extremely sceptical, but took a punt on an £86 Light Blue and was tremendously surprised by the improvement it made. After a week of mulling it over, I decided to buy a Yellow fuse for £200. On its own, when used in the mains plug for my preamp, the Yellow improved sound even more. But here's the thing: When I additionally put the Light Blue in my DAC mains plug, it made everything worse, even though putting either fuse alone in my DAC's plug had made improvements (albeit not as much as in the preamp's mains plug). So the effect sounds a bit like the SR's master fuse. You only need 1 for your most susceptible piece of kit. Futureshop, who sold me the fuses, say that they've been informed by QSA that actually, the further back in the power supply you can place one of their 13A fuses, the bigger the effect will be -- so next I'll be trying the Yellow in the plug for my mains power strip to see if that's right. I've moved the Light Blue to the mains plug for my secondary, nearfield system's integrated amp with some, albeit less marked, improvement. I'll be spending no more than £200, I can assure you, if only because of the law of diminishing returns. The LIght Blue makes a subjective improvement in main system's sound of c. 50%, and the Yellow, I'd say around 85-90% . But what is the subjective improvement, exactly? Best way I can put it is that without any QSA fuses, I used to notice how most days my system sounded so-so -- not bad, you understand, but not as emotionally involving as on rarer days. Just occasionally, it sounded significantly better. I put it down to my mood or maybe the weather or whatever. What the fuses, particularly the yellow, seem to do is to introduce consistency, so that every day it sounds like it used to only on those very occasional good days. Sound is full, natural and engaging; it's easier to follow instruments in a wider and deeper soundstage; bass is better... and so on. Heck, everything is just more musical and I can listen for hours to pretty much any track I posses, even the ones I used to play less often. Who knows, maybe I'm kidding myself -- time will tell. In the past, I've bought various system tweaks and been very enthusiastic about them, only to find that in time the effect wears off. So far, that hasn't happened for the two QSA fuses I've bought. We'll see how I feel in three or six month's time. If I remember, I may post a progress report here at that point.
@daveuk1324
@daveuk1324 29 күн бұрын
Can I trust this?
@kristiankeller4335
@kristiankeller4335 6 ай бұрын
That's a pretty good demonstration of the placebo effect. Gentlemen, please don't fall for this nonsense. I know the idea of being able to upgrade your setup with a simple fuse is extremely alluring, but trust me when I say that absolutely nothing in the world of physics supports this. Psychology, on the other hand, has countless times shown how these effects happen in all of our brains all the time. If you test these kind of products in a setting designed to eliminate expectation bias, the perceived differences will disappear completely.
@Borednlonely
@Borednlonely 2 ай бұрын
Your statements about measurements may be accurate but that doesn’t change the fact that fuses do sound different. Try it for yourself.
@kristiankeller4335
@kristiankeller4335 2 ай бұрын
@@Borednlonely why should I? I already know that the placebo effect works. What would I gain from demonstrating that once more? I don't see any reason to pay through nose for a simple psychology trick.
@EricRhodeslives
@EricRhodeslives 4 ай бұрын
I wonder why no one has reviewed the pink fuse yet.
@JeffreySaunders-h7b
@JeffreySaunders-h7b 29 күн бұрын
This is billed as a Purple and Master Fuse listening test. I heard no review of Purple or discussion of the Purple's sound. Either I missed it or TAS needs to retitle this review. I use Orange and Purple fuses and would look forward to a Purple and Orange review. To my surprise they DO make a difference. No Masters for me, even with my high-end system. $1,200 +tax for 2 is a push too far. I'd rather continue to spend $850 for season tix to Philadelphia Orchestra.
@r423sdex
@r423sdex 6 ай бұрын
Was the fuses in the signal chain or power supply.
@QuintEssential-sz2wn
@QuintEssential-sz2wn 6 ай бұрын
I do not dismiss the usefulness of purely subjective reviews. In fact I often support them: they can be informative, in particular for reporting differences between things like loudspeakers which are well established to sound different. HOWEVER...this is an area where the purely subjective, uncontrolled listening of audiophiles in general, and reviewers in particular, really fail audiophiles. The fact is human imagination is incredibly powerful - on any given day people around the world are believing impossible and contradictory things. The scientific method arose for a reason, one of those being that it takes the big problem of imagination and bias seriously in it's very method. Once you are operating in purely uncontrolled conditions people can imagine effects that aren't there. That's why there hasn't been one audiophile tweak ever dreamed up, that doesn't have some advocates swearing they "hear a difference." No matter how impossible the tweak is on known theory, engineering and science. It is a limitless reservoir for companies to take advantage of. It's made worse by the perfect confluence of elements: Most audiophiles have some level of "gadget lust" but combined with a very low understanding of how electronics work, not to mention human psychology and bias, and psycho-acoustics. So it makes them the perfect audience for dubious products - just give a technical sounding patter "here's a problem we claim is reducing your sound quality and here is our proprietary method of fixing it, all you have to do is try it!" And since most audiophiles don't have the knowledge to vet such claims, they just use uncontrolled listening to judge and, to no surprise, "hear" differences (even if the product isn't actually altering the sound audibly). The exact method is used to sell magic dots on amps, teeny brass bowls on walls, special pebbles on CD players and DACs, anything you can imagine. And reviewers like this just amount to more of the same: taking the marketing technical claims on face value, or not having the skills or knowledge to vet the claims, then using uncontrolled listening and...to no surprise..."hearing" differences (try finding a subjective review of a tweak where the reviewer DOES NOT hear differences!). And so, audiophile reviewers, like homeopaths or alternative medicine practitioners, continue to lead other audiophiles down the garden path, declaring "success" to whatever implausible product any company can dream up. It's fascinating to contemplate what the audiophile industry would look like if these type of products were actually publicly tested under conditions controlling for well known sighted biases.
@VideoArchiveGuy
@VideoArchiveGuy 6 ай бұрын
I listen with my ears, I don't need things to be "proven" to me before choosing them on that basis. If you don't hear a difference in your system, don't buy them but I'll never get the need to try to prove that those who do hear an improvement somehow don't.
@scottwheeler2679
@scottwheeler2679 6 ай бұрын
You listen with your ears and eyes
@grumpy9478
@grumpy9478 6 ай бұрын
not in a darkened space, eyes closed. add a highly developed sense of critical skepticism (trained not to care whether mods matter). repeat one's own evaluation protocol, patiently, over time & tunes. thence... if one experiences a consistently enhanced pleasurable listening experience, why does it matter how it was devised? what matters at that stage is cost-effectiveness - itself an idiosyncratic determination. if one proceeds in this manner for years, one might get pretty good at rejecting bias favoring The Latest New Gizmo. & perhaps even faith in DBT as the sine qua non of all things in hifi component selection.@@scottwheeler2679
@QuintEssential-sz2wn
@QuintEssential-sz2wn 6 ай бұрын
If you don't care about the difference between imagination and a product actually doing what it's advertised to do, by all means...you do you. I find it very odd that you can't understand why any other audiophile would want to know how something works, or if it even does what it's claimed to do. I suppose some are happy to pay extra money, even thousands on things like AC cables, so long as they think they hear a difference imaginary or otherwise. Some of us like to put our funds to things that actually make a difference, so knowledge about whether a claim is plausible or not, or has been demonstrated reliably or not, actually matters. @@VideoArchiveGuy
@scottwheeler2679
@scottwheeler2679 6 ай бұрын
You really don’t get any better at doing the impossible no matter how much practice you put in.
@SimonP2
@SimonP2 2 ай бұрын
Try using a good quality fuse on your TV as well. The difference isn't mind-blowing but there are definite improvements to be seen.
@mostirreverent
@mostirreverent 5 ай бұрын
Were the fuses that were replaced glass or ceramic?
@marcuspetery1823
@marcuspetery1823 6 ай бұрын
And there you have it, a $0.50 fuse with a sticker on it sold for an eye watering $595 and a "reviewer" who can't probably tell the difference in a blind test raving about it.... ... and then you're wondering why "Hi-End Audio" is considered the biggest scam in the consumer electronics industry...😁
@VideoArchiveGuy
@VideoArchiveGuy 6 ай бұрын
Yes, listen to random people on the Internet rather than find out for yourself with absolutely zero risk… makes sense. It's fun to see people describe anything they are not familiar with as a "scam."
@konstantinost3185
@konstantinost3185 6 ай бұрын
@@VideoArchiveGuy Nah, it's more fun watching audiofools trying to explain how a half an inch of 32awg piece of wire can "improve the soundstage" and make "blacker blacks" that even the "wife from the kitchen" could hear...😁
@scottwheeler2679
@scottwheeler2679 6 ай бұрын
You don’t have to jump out at f an airplane without a parachute to know it’s a bad idea. Do I need to go get a reading from every different psychic to know they are all fakes? Do I have to rent a submarine and spend a year in Lockness to know there is no monster? We don’t have to test everything’ to weed out a lot of BS.
@theodorew.denneyiii2695
@theodorew.denneyiii2695 6 ай бұрын
@@VideoArchiveGuy these guys don’t own high-performance stereos. They’re like kids with late model, hot hatches, and a loud ridiculous pipe out the back, arguing with guys who own Ferrari’s that their cheap cars are just as good. Anytime you actually get to see one of their systems, it’s laughable.
@scottwheeler2679
@scottwheeler2679 6 ай бұрын
You are a scammer. Ferraris bought on consumer fraud.
@Esprits4s
@Esprits4s 5 ай бұрын
Rumor is that (at least some) SR fuses are UL certified. Take off the sticker and you see UR 189140 markings (SIBA Fuses? No mention of graphene on their site). I guess one might ask if the graphene SR modification was tested or invalidates the certification?
@patrickguice
@patrickguice 6 ай бұрын
Think it’s time to rename the channel the absolute snake oil salesman
@uccelino
@uccelino 6 ай бұрын
Great review! Daring and controversial as the subject may be, there are far and few between reviews of fuses. Also very interesting comment from Craig there - «over-egging» the punch is something to keep in mind - sometimes too much clarity can break an otherwise good setup. - Cheers TAS!
@davewin1792
@davewin1792 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely. It’s often easier to live with wanting a little more than wanting a little less.
@bkik5
@bkik5 6 ай бұрын
This is getting embarrassing.
@screamallyouwant
@screamallyouwant 6 ай бұрын
And the next video will he him blind testing this for us?
@scottwheeler2679
@scottwheeler2679 6 ай бұрын
Using my psychic powers I predict…..wait for it……….no. There will not be any DBTs
@patrickguice
@patrickguice 6 ай бұрын
Boy reviews like this certainly makes me think of PT Barnum and he was certainly 100% correct there is suckers born every minute and sad people try to suck them in and get all their money
@VideoArchiveGuy
@VideoArchiveGuy 6 ай бұрын
There are. Then there are products like this that make demonstrable improvements. If you don't hear an improvement, don't buy them, they even have a money back guarantee.
@scottwheeler2679
@scottwheeler2679 6 ай бұрын
“Demonstrative?” As in a positive result in a properly designed DBT? Or as in any card trick or optical illusion?
@VideoArchiveGuy
@VideoArchiveGuy 6 ай бұрын
@@scottwheeler2679 As in to anyone who chooses to LISTEN.
@trackingangle929
@trackingangle929 6 ай бұрын
have you ever sat down and compared fuses to hear if there might possibly be a sonic difference that your knowledge base does not account for but that you are sure you heard? That perhaps could be "blind tested"? That's usually how things are discovered---by observations-- closed minds aren't interested...
@scottwheeler2679
@scottwheeler2679 6 ай бұрын
I have done numerous listening comparisons between things that don’t make a difference. Both sighted and blind to know and understand the science is right
@andynowy
@andynowy 5 ай бұрын
Before I've tried SR fuse, I tested different ones (silver, ceramic, some German fuse). All this is proper BS! Eventually, i went for SR orange fuse, and this time difference was easily distinguishable. SR is definitely not placebo or snake oil.
@BopWalk
@BopWalk 2 ай бұрын
The community is very torn about whether hifi fuses are snake oil or not. It's all because there is no official science to support it, but I consider this a hidden science we have not yet discovered yet. The Fuses are doing something to the AC current which affects the capacitors in your DACs and AMPs which affects the audio signal chain. My Purple Fuse made a huge difference the first time I listened to it on my DAC.
@olanzipMK2
@olanzipMK2 6 ай бұрын
Didn't even watch it. But worth coming here to troll. What a load of shit.
@fendergibs
@fendergibs 6 ай бұрын
Forget about which sounds better. First prove there’s a sonic change if you cannot prove a sonic change, the rest of your listening is placebo.
@theodorew.denneyiii2695
@theodorew.denneyiii2695 6 ай бұрын
ASR cult.
@scottwheeler2679
@scottwheeler2679 6 ай бұрын
The cult of rational thought. The horror the horror. Dude, you are committing consumer fraud by selling this snake oil. You are scamming people.
@brianpoi5117
@brianpoi5117 6 ай бұрын
Somebody buy one, take it a part, and make a video of what's inside.
@simonzinc-trumpetharris852
@simonzinc-trumpetharris852 3 ай бұрын
How could a tiny strand of wire mske any difference? The very presence of a fuse negates the whole purpose of 'high end' mains cables anyway.
@chuckmaddison2924
@chuckmaddison2924 2 ай бұрын
They do when they blow.
@Borednlonely
@Borednlonely 2 ай бұрын
For goodness sake. Peoples ignorance is shocking. I will agree that these fuses are wildly expensive. However, not knowing exactly what research has gone into the product I’d caution a tonne of criticism here. More to the point, YES fuses sound different. Whether that’s worth the money is another question. Oh and btw all you experts with educations, how about you conduct an experiment and actually test these fuses before running away with your “my textbook didn’t tell me this” comments.
@davroster
@davroster 4 ай бұрын
Trolls dont beleive in fuses but believe in God.....God is the OG snake oil 😂
@Habitual_Liar
@Habitual_Liar 3 ай бұрын
I think that might be the best comment I’ve ever read.
@edd2771
@edd2771 6 ай бұрын
Wait…is today April 1st?
@vladimirdorta6692
@vladimirdorta6692 6 ай бұрын
What are all those people who do not believe any components make any sound difference doing here? They should be back in their homes or businesses doing something!
@scottwheeler2679
@scottwheeler2679 6 ай бұрын
Taking a little time to counter mythology with objective reality. Something the world of audio needs much more of.
@theodorew.denneyiii2695
@theodorew.denneyiii2695 6 ай бұрын
Vladimir, They don’t have much going on in their lives. Businesses? That’s funny. Successful men do not fret over how other men spend their money, they are too focused on their business to play Karen online.
@scottwheeler2679
@scottwheeler2679 6 ай бұрын
There is a certain irony in telling other posters they have no life because they are doing….exactly what you are doing.
@vladimirdorta6692
@vladimirdorta6692 6 ай бұрын
@@scottwheeler2679The composition of the sentence of course meant the subjective-objective difference, but perhaps that's too difficult to understand!
@scottwheeler2679
@scottwheeler2679 6 ай бұрын
What I understand is your beliefs in mythology are being called out and you are looking for any desperate means of deflection. The fuses are snake oil. Were the subject and object clear enough for you?
@1999zrx1100
@1999zrx1100 6 ай бұрын
Please 🙄
@a0r0a7
@a0r0a7 3 ай бұрын
Such an amazing component these fuses. Incredible that obviously before using these the well engineered components and circuitry in various pieces of equipment sounded just OK, the manufacturers got it so wrong and used cheap protection fuses. All they needed to do was implement these amazing fuses to transform their equipment into amazing audio performance. What utter nonsense.
@don7680
@don7680 6 ай бұрын
Psychoacoustics. NO!
@jc51373
@jc51373 2 ай бұрын
I just put the Pink fuse in my Innuos Pulsar, these fuses do in fact alter the sound, which means YES to all the ASR idiots trolling the comments here that they're wrong. Now, does it change it for the better is the question..In my case likely not, things sound a little more sibilant with the fuse in, some aspects of the sound are better but as a collective picture I don't prefer it and it makes my system sound worse. So what do all the naysayers have to say about that? Do these fuses work and impact the sound? Absolutely. Does that mean it's some kind of magic that will improve your entire systems' sound? Absolutely NOT.
@powersmusicgroup
@powersmusicgroup 6 ай бұрын
hahahahahahaha
@razisn
@razisn 6 ай бұрын
Oh please....
@Stephenwongdirectimaging
@Stephenwongdirectimaging 7 күн бұрын
Over price master fuse I owned a purple fuse bought used just for a review I think they are too forward or enhance chance the music character
@stimpy1226
@stimpy1226 6 ай бұрын
I didn’t hear you mention the fact that they rely heavily on Graphene as well as million volt charges. The best test for anything made by Synergistic Research is to read the reviews of best rooms at any audio show. Seems that these rooms that have the best sound quality have asked Ted Denny, the founder of Synergistic Research to come in and treat their rooms. That’s a testament of what some of the best high-end audio companies think of Synergistic.
@scottwheeler2679
@scottwheeler2679 6 ай бұрын
Nope
@edd2771
@edd2771 6 ай бұрын
A bit of a logical fallacy here. Room treatments make a difference. It’s common sense. AC fuses are extremely unlikely to do so. Again common sense. The fact that the same man peddles both proves absolutely nothing regarding the audible benefits of the fuses.
@VideoArchiveGuy
@VideoArchiveGuy 6 ай бұрын
@@edd2771 Aside from the fact that it shows he doesn't bother selling products that don't.
@scottwheeler2679
@scottwheeler2679 6 ай бұрын
Just a heads up. Synergistic Research’s “room treatments” are as effective as his fuses. They are more BS.
@theodorew.denneyiii2695
@theodorew.denneyiii2695 6 ай бұрын
@@scottwheeler2679 your whole purpose for being here is to spam anything SR. Unlike you, I sell millions of dollars worth synergy creating components and accessories every single year, approaching $15 million at retail every year with a 30 day moneyback guarantee. You on the other hand produce nothing but keyboard spamming. I am glad myself and my company live rent-free in your head.
@yoddeb
@yoddeb 6 ай бұрын
This video is insane.
@SingularityMedia
@SingularityMedia 6 ай бұрын
Why didn't you do any objective measurement? This is pure subjectivity and completely unscientific.
@apricotjungle
@apricotjungle 6 ай бұрын
Interesting stuff. I never considered upgrading my fuses. Thank you for this in-depth review.
@McWhatevs
@McWhatevs 2 ай бұрын
The answer to your question is **NO**
@chrislj2890
@chrislj2890 6 ай бұрын
I'm sure other companies will jump on the band wagon if there are enough people foolish enough to fall for this hokum. As if the power cable insanity weren't silly enough.
@Esprits4s
@Esprits4s 6 ай бұрын
Others have...
@richardelliott8352
@richardelliott8352 6 ай бұрын
I am glad of a format that allows sensible rebuttal to the ignorant positions some reviews take. in the days of print reviews, experts pushed so much false value, the result still lingers , and people still pay for stuff they think is good because that's the way it was promoted by writers who needed something to write about.
@VideoArchiveGuy
@VideoArchiveGuy 6 ай бұрын
Pity you obviously have never taken the time to listen to either.
@scottwheeler2679
@scottwheeler2679 6 ай бұрын
Obviously? Really?
@chrislj2890
@chrislj2890 6 ай бұрын
@@VideoArchiveGuy Nope, and I"ve never taken LSD either, but I'm sure if I did and used the fuses and power cables I would surely notice something different.
@user-nn1vf5vg5t
@user-nn1vf5vg5t 6 ай бұрын
Have to say that from a group of more than 60 audiophile friends with sistems from 20k to 400k there was only one that was so used to the sound of his sistem that he didn’t want a purple fuse. The rest all have minimum 2. They make a big difference on all gear, and can solve some big problems in your sistem, for example I was sure that I had lose and not very defined bass because of my room’s acoustics… 2 Purple fuse actualy solved it for me. Tighter bass, more defined, faster, bigger soundstage, focus, cleaner sound. Would love to see some day soon a fuse and holder from SR for the main home switch. That would be the product of the year for me and my friends:)
@Esprits4s
@Esprits4s 6 ай бұрын
Lol, you just joined KZfaq to post this? Nothing suspicious about that...
@adrianalexander2651
@adrianalexander2651 6 ай бұрын
Well done - I enjoyed your review!
@middleearthltd
@middleearthltd 6 ай бұрын
I just got Magnepan LXR+ and I believe they use a regular fuse with a tiny wire in line. There are some upgraded fuses that seem better. Will be doing something but not spending $200 plus on fuses.
@edd2771
@edd2771 6 ай бұрын
Yes but the magnepan fuses are in the signal chain which makes benefits of such an upgrade plausible. These magic fuses are in line with the AC.
@VideoArchiveGuy
@VideoArchiveGuy 6 ай бұрын
@@edd2771 I'm not sure why people discount AC, as it's AC that eventually becomes what the signal IS.
@scottwheeler2679
@scottwheeler2679 6 ай бұрын
After it goes through a regulated power supply and converted to DC. It’s not being ignored. It’s been addressed by the folks who design and build quality audio components.
@theodorew.denneyiii2695
@theodorew.denneyiii2695 6 ай бұрын
@@scottwheeler2679 that’s false, you’re viewing electricity as water through a pipe. Electricity is actually a wave form that rides above the conductor. What affects the wave form on the AC side, the wall side, will also attach itself to the signal waveform being created by the circuit. Everything is in the signal path, including mechanical vibrations.
@scottwheeler2679
@scottwheeler2679 6 ай бұрын
Nonsense. It absolutely is true. Components have internal regulated power supplies that filter the AC and convert it to DC. You are selling complete BS.
@davewin1792
@davewin1792 6 ай бұрын
How come whenever we talk about cables and now fuses, the electrical engineers come out of the woodwork. News flash, these fuses are not doing anything to the sound, the original ones were. These are more transparent and do not have a negative effect like the basic original ones did.
@Esprits4s
@Esprits4s 6 ай бұрын
Way to educate the electrical engineers, lol
@davewin1792
@davewin1792 6 ай бұрын
Baby steps 🙂
@r423sdex
@r423sdex 6 ай бұрын
We are sometimes fools. If the fuse is in the power circuit, it's not going to change sound.
@edd2771
@edd2771 6 ай бұрын
News flash- The man literally said in the review that they not only undo the effect of the original fuses, they improve the original sound. I think both assertions can only be tested via a blind compare with the original fuses. Several trials, several listeners, and random switch of each during each trial. If one can actually consistently discern the more expensive fuse from the cheaper, then we can move to what it sounds like in comparison. But making these assertions out of the gate and saying it “seems” to do this and “seems” to do that is shaky ground indeed.
@slip6699
@slip6699 6 ай бұрын
You know working on a radar weapon system where your life and the life of others depends on how well the system can detect a very small radar return. Amplify it enough, then eliminate background noise enough to isolate the return signal (millivolts), just so you could try to get enough signal return from a nose cone with a radar return less than 1 sqr meter in size. All on a generic fuse. If the noise filtering in your DAC and amp can't handle a basic task.... Don't waste your money folks.
@theodorew.denneyiii2695
@theodorew.denneyiii2695 6 ай бұрын
Or, you can just listen. Kind of the point of this hobby?
@jandof7781
@jandof7781 6 ай бұрын
Absolute sound, we would love to see a test like this with the Hifi Tuning fuses, specially the new diamond
@theodorew.denneyiii2695
@theodorew.denneyiii2695 6 ай бұрын
I’d LOVE to see a direct comparison review, SR vs HiFi Tuning. Will it reach a different conclusion from that of the marketplace? 😉
@BassNotes
@BassNotes 6 ай бұрын
The brand that spends more on advertising will probably win a TAS comparison.
@brave1671
@brave1671 6 ай бұрын
LOL
@michaelplaut910
@michaelplaut910 4 ай бұрын
hilarious that all the negative reviews never bothered to try it....all the positive reviews actually heard it and like it.....even if you believe it has no basis in science if your ears (fooled or not) like the sound better with the SR fuse then bottom line you enjoy your system better. On the other hand not trying it because there is no white paper behind it sounds like someone who doesnt trust their ears
@charlesnr
@charlesnr 6 ай бұрын
Previously have the Orange and Blue fuses. As my fuses are in the amp speaker line, they make an easily audible difference. So far, the power line fuses, for amp and balanced transformer box, (4) never seemed to make much difference. So, already behind in versions, next will probably be the Purple fuse. And for some reason, when they have a sale, its always a third fuse, so not all matching.
@user-oz4ph3qn3x
@user-oz4ph3qn3x 2 ай бұрын
what a load of bs
@dragocelander6671
@dragocelander6671 6 ай бұрын
I’m not against SR fuses doing what SR claims. But I’ve got problems when a reviewer recommends fusing only one channel with SR fuses while using stock fuses for the other channel to discern sound quality differences between channels. This might sound like a good strategy for mono recordings (as I think the reviewer suggested) but it really doesn’t work for stereo recordings. And then there’s the comment about allowing fuses to “break in.” Lol. Really?? Call me stupid for believing this is meaningful or useful. And finally, why so many pics of the actual fuses??
@theodorew.denneyiii2695
@theodorew.denneyiii2695 6 ай бұрын
This may come as a surprise, like power cords that some still unbelievably refuse to acknowledge despite the fact it’s been overwhelmingly obvious for over 20 years now that PCs play a pivotal role in the way all systems sound, but I digress, fuses, like power cords, are extremely popular in high-end Audio, among audiophiles, who own actual high-performance stereos, guys who don’t simply type on online forums to express their ignorance, actual audiophiles with high-performance systems, purchase thousands of high-end fuses every year, over 10,000 annually from my company Synergistic Research alone, this may surprise you. Because the difference is night and day, where all SR fuses are sold with a 30-day no risk, money back guarantee, with a less than 2% return rate.
@watdanuqta-mf5ms
@watdanuqta-mf5ms 6 ай бұрын
The price of these tweaks is absurd. I can only assume that because the thin wire in a typical fuse limits the amount of current through it(maybe?), that somehow the Synergistic fuses can deliver more current and still do their job protecting the component. I can't imagine that these fuses are difficult to manufacture, so it would be the material inside them that's expensive. I'd like to hear them compared to some freshly made ceramic fuses with the endcaps polished and treated to perfection. Over the years a lot of claims have been made in audio with only subjective claims of results. They're fuses; they can't possibly add anything. They can only make things better by getting out of the way. Better yet, two identical components with one wired directly to the outlet. no fuse in the circuit and the other with the fancy fuse. You say potato, I say Potahto!
@scottwheeler2679
@scottwheeler2679 6 ай бұрын
Purple paint must cost a fortune. Let’s get real, Synergistic Research is not manufacturing fuses. They are redressing them.
@patrickguice
@patrickguice 6 ай бұрын
“ Patricia Barber’s voice seems to be more distinctive” I can’t say how true that is however, I would have to say I think this review is more de stinktive.
@davewin1792
@davewin1792 6 ай бұрын
Don’t quit your day job.
@terencefield3204
@terencefield3204 6 ай бұрын
Oh dear me the modern American world is utterly bizarre!,,,,
@Esprits4s
@Esprits4s 6 ай бұрын
It's not limited to America...
@VideoArchiveGuy
@VideoArchiveGuy 6 ай бұрын
For providing products that demonstrably improve sound quality for those who care?
@scottwheeler2679
@scottwheeler2679 6 ай бұрын
You keep saying “demonstrably” but nothing has been demonstrated other than the psychoacoustic effects of poorly designed audition protocols
@BassNotes
@BassNotes 6 ай бұрын
@@VideoArchiveGuy Are you a retailer of these so-called "high end audio" products?
@VideoArchiveGuy
@VideoArchiveGuy 6 ай бұрын
@@BassNotes Nope. Are you? Just as stupid a question, really, but this is the Internet where anyone who thinks something counter to someone clearly must be a paid troll of some type. 🤷‍♂ Perhaps I have (gasp!) ears and support products that I can hear (gasp!) make a positive improvement? I could give you a list of things I've tried that didn't, but that also doesn't make them "snake oil" because they might make an improvement in someone ELSE's system.
@richardelliott8352
@richardelliott8352 6 ай бұрын
this question will bum those who like to buy expensive three foot power cables, because it will be hard to embellish such a small item enough to command a thousand dollar purchase price.
@crackr1
@crackr1 6 ай бұрын
LOL!
@CarlVanDoren61
@CarlVanDoren61 6 ай бұрын
And when UR gear smokes 🚬 😮
@mr_teateas
@mr_teateas 2 ай бұрын
The answer is simle people thinks oh dear what a massive difference but the reality is completely different unfortunately there is no difference at all its just your mind playing tricks on you to spend more money thats all stock fuses and midnight blue fuses are exactly the same just cosmetic however if you change your circuit breaker and the cables with audio circuit breakers and pure silver insulated cables with specific fuse and plug them through power conditioner than HEY BABY YES YES YES 💥
@gtrguyinaz
@gtrguyinaz 6 ай бұрын
Fuses may be effective but it should be one of the last ungrades , best equipment comes first..
@Esprits4s
@Esprits4s 6 ай бұрын
If you have money burning a hole in your pocket, maybe spend it on room treatments or even just more music (albums, CDs, streaming options). You'll get a much better return...
@r423sdex
@r423sdex 6 ай бұрын
The only time you need to change a fuse is if it's blown. Very rare !
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