Synology and QNAP vs Build Your Own NAS - Which Is Best?
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@DavidM2002 8 ай бұрын
If you want simplicity, buy Synology. If you like to tinker, buy QNAP. If you really like to get your hands dirty, save some money, and get a bit of an education, buy DIY. I have both Synology and QNAP and that's enough for me as they are both extremely capable. What I can't do with one, I do with the other.
@PoorBoy.22 8 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@user-kg6uj6ji5p 8 ай бұрын
I'm agree with you. DIY gonna save money, have great value and performance but it will sacrifice the simplicity and powet consumption. Most of diy nas has over 10 watt consumption at idle, meanwhile synology has 4 watt.
@stevenemert837 8 ай бұрын
Good synopsis. I prefer simplicity and selected Synology. Relatively simple to set up, as well as the ability to use all the non-basic packages that it includes.
@yuan.pingchen3056 3 ай бұрын
best zfs performance and turn de-duplication on, choose Synology or QNAP?
@seanzhang3873 3 ай бұрын
If you already have an old PC lying around, then you can pretty much turn that into NAS with no cost other than buying some hard disks which you gonna get anyway. You don't have to build it yourself from scratch, and you can easily upgrade the hardware if you need to. What I hate about synology is that it's not that easy to upgrade RAM modules and CPU other than buying a new one, and the bay slots are limited to what you bought.
@BrianDavids 8 ай бұрын
First of all you did a great job, describing the differences between a build your own, and a purchasable NAS. I have been building my own storage devices for decades, and about 5 to 6 years ago I discovered Synology and once I set one up, I’ve never looked back. For me, it really comes down to simplicity, ease of setup, installation and the continually improving software that is provided on the Synology NAS. Could I build my own? Yes. Do I want to? No!
@nascompares 8 ай бұрын
THAT might be the best comment on this vid so far/ever... Concise and EXACTLY the point!! It's about time, energy and priorities
@patrickburyk9973 8 ай бұрын
Many great points expressed here - THANKS!!!!! I've decided to pursue the DIY option - N2/Topton/IronWolf/etc. I understand the "downsides" but have building DIY solutions for years. Thank you for all of your NAS videos!!!!!! Very Best Regards -
@Paul.dillingham 4 ай бұрын
Very informative and well put together video. Thanks!
@JasonTaylor-po5xc 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, I went through a similar evaluation and was very tempted to go DIY since I'm very comfortable building my own systems. But, I really wanted something that was well supported that would hold all my business data and I loved the apps for cloud sync, mobile apps and private cloud options. I may consider building a second NAS DIY as a backup/replication server in the future since that would be a more streamlined and less mission critical use case.
@streamproperty Ай бұрын
Thanks So Much! Great video. Appreciated
@bembelknecht 8 ай бұрын
Well balanced video; I opted to DIY as I like to know my systems a bit better. It's nice when it "just works" but I want to be prepared when it does not
@2FTermination 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video!
@davidg5898 8 ай бұрын
I like to tinker and have plenty of experience with linux, servers, and netsec, so it's DIY for me every time. That said, turnkey solutions are what I recommend for any client I help set up with a NAS, and for my family -- even if I'm the one primarily maintaining it. My only gripe with turnkey is support. A good NAS will sit in a home or small business for a decade or so before it really needs any upgrade (not counting any drive swaps). In that time, companies occasionally drop older devices from their support list and stop releasing software/security updates or even remove functionality (like WD removing cloud functionality from their 1st gen MyCloud products last year).
@andrehall5747 8 ай бұрын
So glad you released this video. After being a longtime Synology and fan of this channel I watched some of your most recent videos about building a DIY solution. Built one this week and couldn't be happier. I built with all new parts since I didn't have any old parts around, but going the DIY route gives you so much performance and freedom compared to the turnkey solutions. Running TrueNAS Scale on my DIY NAS and am really pleased. I'll probably built my own NASes going forward, and I don't regret it. Jonsbo N2 Case AMD Ryzen 5 5600G 512GB M.2 NVMe overkill for boot drive, had this laying around AsRock B550M-ITX/AC Apevia 500 watt SFF PSU 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPx RAM LSI 6GB SAS HBA SAS to SATA cable (4 ports) (5) HGST 4TB SATA Drives Total:$553 USD (jwothout hard drives)
@Cemilaws 8 ай бұрын
What does truenas give that dsm 7 can't? Or other way arround? I was spectical about softwarw so i went 224+ but i could use my i79700k that iam not using, what could you prefer?
@nascompares 8 ай бұрын
Love your build list man!! Also, re what each path gives/lacks, stay tuned for a specific video on this soon (done, just needs editing and publishing) on DSM vs UnRAID and DSM vs TrueNAS Scale
@andrehall5747 8 ай бұрын
@@Cemilaws DSM is a great platform and Synology is probably the best in the NAS business. I own a DS1019+ and recently purchased a DS1522+. My reason for considering DIY over turnkey was based around price and performance. For what you can buy from the likes of QNAP/Synology you can build your own solution with more powerful hardware and presents other use case opportunities for the hardware later on if you so choose. You’re locked in your NAS just being a NAS when it comes to QNAP and Synology. That’s not necessarily a bad thing.
@Cemilaws 8 ай бұрын
Out of topic but there are theft sometimes in my block, can I use license plate rec from 224+ if i ugrade to 4gb ram or 6, with reolink 8or12mp cameras? Do I need synology cam for that? Also is unifi ai bullet better than synology ai ?
@praetorxyn 8 ай бұрын
@@CemilawsTrueNAS gives ZFS, which, if you want to do RAID, beats the pants off anything Synology has to offer. Synology is basically just the Apple of NAS vendors. The only thing DSM really offers that TrueNAS / UnRAID don't is Synology's first party applications, and IMO they all suck compared to third party alternatives anyway. I own a Synology DS918+, but I basically ignore the Package Center and just use Docker Compose to setup everything I want to host, so my whole setup is portable anyway, and I'm thinking about upgrading to a DIY NAS.
@garynagle3093 8 ай бұрын
Great comparison video. Choose what fits your dedication level for each. DIY vs prebuilt. Both are fine if they fit your needs
@shawnbretthauer 8 ай бұрын
When my mom needed a backup solution for her work I knew to get her a prebuilt NAS. She ended up getting a Synology. I enjoy working on computers and everything, but I'm tired of being her IT solution. Now I just tell her to call their 1-800 number. As for myself, I plan on building my own for the experience.
@abel4776 4 ай бұрын
Cherish her while she still lives.
@CapsLock33 8 ай бұрын
thank you for showing and explaining UnRaid and TrueNAS. I am a Synology Fan at heart. But I have been thinking about building a UNRaid NAS.
@atvking535 8 ай бұрын
As a previous Synology user who switched to Unraid about a year ago all I can say is... Do it! Only thing I regret is not having made the switch earlier
@dsr0116 6 ай бұрын
I just got a Synology 1821+. Having been using a WD PR4100 as my Plex server, I am impressed with its software (easier admin tools and network options, cloud services, and 2 factor authentication), as well as form factor. I can see how DIY would be less expensive for top spec hardware. The Synology will be fine for my uses as a file server, offers me a lot of expandability as far as bays, and has a small enough footprint that I can fit it behind my TV (size of enclosure may be another selling point for some).
@vidx9 8 ай бұрын
DIY always. The hardware to cost ratio cannot be beat
@ocularpatdown 8 ай бұрын
Even for beginners who’ve never had a home NAS? I’m torn between going Synology and DIY.
@vitoswat 8 ай бұрын
@@ocularpatdown taking into consideration amount of learning material online, if you like some tinkering this is no-brainer decision. If you want set up and forget system go with vendor solution.
@nascompares 8 ай бұрын
If you have the time to learn (it's surprisingly easy going, as long as you are vague PC literate), DiY/BYO NAS' can be massively better...but it's also the factors surrounding upkeep, maintenance and improving ( i.e apps and add ons) that eat up the time and make up the learning curve
@nadtz 8 ай бұрын
@@ocularpatdown If you don't mind learning and getting used to whatever OS you decide to use before fully putting it 'into production' it's not really that hard even for beginners. If you want something that 'just works' and don't mind paying a premium for the convenience then there's really nothing wrong with going with an off the rack solution. I'm firmly in the DIY camp personally but totally understand that not everyone wants to tinker with hardware and software and knowing support is an email or phone call away isn't a bad thing either. I just dislike how much the consumer NAS vendors charge for that convenience but that's mostly because I've done IT for years and prefer to save my pennies where I can.
@basdfgwe 8 ай бұрын
@@nascomparesyou don't need a Nas case jonsbo case etc... You can pick up your old computer, or buy one off marketplace and stick some hds in. So that's not much, the rest is software - learn synology software, or lean unraid truenas ... They are both same same different.
@Reman1975 8 ай бұрын
When it comes to DIY PC based NAS devices, I tend to just find a second hand HP tower system. You can get something with pretty reasonable specs and rock solid build quality for £50 to £100, and HP spare parts availability remains good for quite a few years. If you find something like an old Z230 with an i7-3770 or E3-1225 v3 in it you can add 32gb of inexpensive DDR3 ram, a pair of 3.5" to duel 2.5" hard drive trays, then lose the optical drive, and run 5 SSD's (1x OS drive + 4x storage drives) off the onboard SATA ports. It's not going to set the world on fire with it's performance, but it will certainly be more than capable of filling the NAS/print server role in a small to medium sized office.
@andrewcrook6444 8 ай бұрын
A lot of the software under the hood of turnkey systems is a load of opensource. Base OS Linux ,Web servers , DNS , DNS-SD, SSH, SMB, AD support, AFS, NFS, Time Machine support, AirPrint, containers, video conversation and compression etc a lot of these are used in the top brands and I can add any of these to a diy solution as well.
@petelanzone484 8 ай бұрын
Can you post the parts list of the DYI NAS you have sitting to your left?
@matldn2697 8 ай бұрын
I need a NAS, for a post Doc study program. But it has to be able to take 4 18TB hard drives. So diy is the way forward. But which hardware? It must have a 2.5 gigabit Ethernet. Which hardware??
@InspectorGadget2014 8 ай бұрын
I mostly agree with you. There are a few nuances I would like to share: There are at times also good-as-new/second-hand turn-key available at sometimes ridiculous prices(!) (especially rack-versions, which are often very solid builds if you can accept the noisy hardware, i.e ventilators, from brand new thousands of euros to just a few hundred euros) And, if you take efforts to look into it, it is possible to opt for a fair powered turnkey solution and hardware-hack it into a beast. (replace CPU, expand memory etc) And lastly, with a turnkey solution, even outside of warranty, you can get it serviced and sometimes end-up with the latest-and-greatest. But DIY is in the end often the most cost effective and tons of fun, and you will learn a lot. I would say, in short, convenience and budget should be one of the first questions you should answer honestly to yourself. (and, my expertise, also consider the disaster-recovery situations, how much can & will you do yourself and what part you would expect others to fix for you, i.e. your expertise etc) As the famous soccer-player Johan Cruijff said: every disadvantage has its advantages......
@InspectorGadget2014 8 ай бұрын
BTW, note on using Thunderbolt on NAS, the NAS will often act/appear as a DAS, so point-to-point and the "regular" limitations of TB.
@InspectorGadget2014 8 ай бұрын
This is one of your better video's, kudos!
@jonathankeay3411 8 ай бұрын
I really want to build my own NAS / Home server, I've built many PCs but cant really find the confidence to do this. Price isn't too much of a worry, but I want something that I can grow over time using both NVME and SSDs. It would most likely have differing size drives and so I am thinking perhaps this is a non starter as most of the DIY OS's seem to require you to have the same size drives. Maybe I am wrong but that's where my head has gotten too. I am not really needing it to do a lot, basically: file storage, cctv footage storage, photo & video sharing to Apple TV's - any guidance would be most helpful..
@piceradigital 7 ай бұрын
Is there any way to use a cloud drive for Netgear NAS? Please suggest me.
@JimtheITguy 8 ай бұрын
Artificial compatibility Limits should really be considered as Suitable for production lists(HCL Lists), more focused on the business side of things rather than the home/homelab users, its always something that needs to be considered especially for people using a NAS for storing business data. not to say self built NAS boxes are bad there are reasons why you opt for fully supported hardware vs self builds for production
@VoltVandal 8 ай бұрын
just my 5ct, i have fun in building my gaming pc's. but i need my peace of mind on my backup devices => qnap fan and it is your faut ! 🙂 . love ur channel btw. THX
@nascompares 8 ай бұрын
Lovely comment and BANG ON logic! Nice!
@juvedelasavia 8 ай бұрын
I'm thinking about having a NAS and I'm in doubt between building DIY or buying a Synology DS1821+. The DS1823xs+ is now available, but due to the limitations/restrictions of hardware and disk updates (from the brand itself), the end of the SHR and price, it is interesting to know if it is still worth buying a DS1821+? Is the life expectancy of this equipment still long and system updates still to come (for how long)? Or should i choose to build a NAS in a Fractal Design Meshify 2 Xl case, MSI Meg x670e ace motherboard and AMD Ryzen 9 7900 non x CPU? I want the NAS to store documents, photos, videos, plex in all rooms of the house and also for 2 external accesses to the house. Later it may try/evolve (without certainty) into a home assistant and explore artificial intelligence (Big data and machine learning). This will be my first NAS. I need some advice because I don't have any one to talk, discuss and ask some advice/orientation. Continue the excellent work, with best regards and thank you all
@abel4776 4 ай бұрын
Have you decided? I like turnkey but like always, more costly and if the board fails, are spare parts available on eBay? Nope.
@taitai4851 Ай бұрын
Is it still viable if i have to access my NAS which will be behind the China GF from anywhere in the world? What factors should I consider?
@PatrickDKing 8 ай бұрын
I got a Synology because it's my first time and I wanted my hand held...BUT, I'm also a tinkerer so in the future I will want to try some third party diy stuff...maybe on an old pc so nothing important gets messed up.
@mario-sz 8 ай бұрын
I spent so much time configuring OMV and TRUENAS that I said enough... Everything never worked the way I wanted and 100%. I was never satisfied. There was always something to improve and discover America anew. I bought Synlogy and I will never build DIY again.
@speedracer9132 4 ай бұрын
Would you please be so kind to share some of the websites/forums/subreddits for building your own NAS?
@dastankuspaev9217 8 ай бұрын
hi,one problem that i have is that diy nas doesnt very convenient ecosystem including android app that automatically backs up photos and also smart tvs have commercial nas apps
@cheako91155 8 ай бұрын
In the US, running custom firmware does not void your warranty... Though you may have to fight for it, just until the FTC gets on it.
@darkphotographer Ай бұрын
advantage i see on ready nas , is some have cloud share option , and they are ready to go , and some looking nice , disadvantage , they cost more , if they brake after the warranty expire you throw everything away , and you may lose all you data if you don t put your dives in same brand nas ,
@basdfgwe 8 ай бұрын
Diy always. I went for synology ran out of space within less than a year and upgrade path was so expensive. You pay a lot, for not that much value.
@JBlongz 6 ай бұрын
Qnap's Qsync is incredible and hard to replace, especially for complex multi-folder syncing. Syncthing is an underdog, but requires too much configuration and testing to ensure intended function.
@nascompares 5 ай бұрын
That and Synology Drive are AAA+ Apps, yeah
@RustyRazorPodcast 7 ай бұрын
@1:41 Ooooooh! After two failed Asustor (2 brand new units failed to power back on after shutting down...3 weeks apart), I'm definitely wanting to go DIY. The N5105 is nice, but an i9 ITX for a NAS? I love overkill! Please tell me I should do this. 😀
@winandd8649 4 ай бұрын
An i9 with lots of memory is ideal when you run something like Proxmox to run virtual machines, as well as Unraid or Truenas as a virtual machine which handles the storage.. Do search for 'proxmox nas'. So an all in one 'Home server' box😎
@computerenthusiast402 5 ай бұрын
What’s the best 2 bay NAS ?
@PatrickDKing 8 ай бұрын
@16:35 I've dealt with some funky computer stuff and in no world is that a good way to name things...what a mess!
@dantonsmaxim 6 ай бұрын
That was a great video. Thanks Which NAS is a realty hard decision. Warranty limitations: With the DIY each part has its own warranty, with the off the shelf NAS there is a blanket warranty. But after warranty period where do you stand??? After warranty Repair for a DIY, buy a new part and reboot. I had an 8 bay Synology that died shortly after the warrant expired. No parts available, no service at all, Synology emailed me saying buy a new one, no more problems until the end of the next warranty period. I also have a Synology DS214, I was informed that there will be no more updates and the NAS may not work in the future. Ease of setup: Synology is so easy to set up, as a computer illiterate I did it in about an hour. I have a new DIY 8 bay NAS and I can’t decide which OS to use, what disc configuration to use
@abel4776 4 ай бұрын
Same with solar panel systems, planning to go DIY and not branded because of proprietary parts and support. Turnkey short term gratification, DIY long term gratification and become competent in NAS.
@TheCynysterMind 8 ай бұрын
I went with synology j200 to dip my toe into the premade side.... I looked at the qnap... and I'm not sure why I leaned more synology... It might have been simply due to name recognition. I've heard of synology before I was into NAS never seen nor heard of qnap until I started shopping for a NAS. Back in the day I used to make my own hard drive server... and never want to go back to building one myself.... takes way more time than I want to spend
@ArrOShooter 8 ай бұрын
DIY with xpenology, best of both worlds for years without problems .
@lethaldonkey 8 ай бұрын
Stupid question because I’m new to ever building or using a home NAS. I’ve built plenty of home PCs to not be overwhelmed by DIY NAS setups. I saw one of your videos about the ZimaCube. I went to their page and read about their CasaOS. Is this something that can be used on DIY NAS setups?
@vitoswat 8 ай бұрын
CasaOS is just convinient docker UI. It (at least at the current version) lacks many of basic NAS capabilities, among others making your data safe. Better idea will be to format CasaOS and going with TrueNAS, Unraid or OMV for your NAS need. Don't get me wrong CasaOS is awesome for running some apps and I have 2 PCs running it but not for storage.
@nascompares 8 ай бұрын
I think I casa os CAN be found on its own, but not 100% sure tbh
@PointlessGameBugs 8 ай бұрын
Have you considered to look at motherboards with the intel n100 cpu? There ist one from asrock and ASUS. Seems really good deal for DIY, but I don’t know how good it will perform. Especially on the power consumption side.
@nascompares 8 ай бұрын
I have a N100 NAS arriving soon, but it's pre built. I'm slightly reluctant to buy mobos, as the channel budget is tight..but..you're like the 10th person this month to request/ask, so I can totally see us buying one or two of these v soon
@mitch6131 8 ай бұрын
I have an ASRock N100DC-ITX with a Vantec PCIe 4 Port raid card in the Jonsbo N3 case. I am using a 90 watt power brick. It was hovering around 45 to 55 watts. It was hacky splitting out the SATA power connector to power the backplane. Now, I have it even more hacky as I have added a second PSU that is switched by the SATA power connector and I changed the Vantec raid card to a LSI 8 port HBA card to utilize all the slots in the N3 case. The secondary PSU now powers all the backplane/spinning drives. Now the DC power supply draws around 25 watts and then the other PSU handles the other load. I'm assuming between both it's probably around the 60 watt mark when all drives are spinning. I'm coming from Synology and I have no regrets yet, other than a slightly annoying whine around 9k hz from either the motherboard or the HBA card...not incredibly loud, so it can be ignored most of the time. I would have chosen the ASUS motherboard because of using the power connector instead of the DC power supply, but it only has a PCIe 1x slot which I didn't think would really work with the drive expansion.
@timgels2918 5 ай бұрын
I personally enjoy using plain Debian with zfs through command line. But I can see the appeal of something easy to setup like with qnap or synology. For example I would like those for backup servers but the fact they cost so much is off putting to me.
@Cemilaws 8 ай бұрын
Also please reply, can i use in 224+ most of the apps in dsm 7 like 723+?
@nascompares 8 ай бұрын
You 100% can, just keep in mind that you lose out on 10GbE upgrades, will have a much lower memory limit, lack of ECC memory and trade graphical handling and efficiency for raw power
@chriscardwell3495 8 ай бұрын
Synology advantages 1) Their equipment is as small as possible . . . your office is way too big 2) Verey Simple GUI . . . okay with TrueNAS the file management add-on in would meet all my needs . . . I am tempted . . . Synology disadvantages . . . they can't provide instant 24x7 support . . . generally I provide my own support and happy with this arrangement
@nascompares 8 ай бұрын
Cheers for sharing your thoughts man
@tombouie 8 ай бұрын
Thks & all soooooo true buts justs-maybes the-question is justs a little-bit to narrow/myoptic; Whether than which one is bestest ; perhaps it's wiser to consider what combo/integration of thems all will bestest satsify your ultimate/matured needs. For example: 1. ?Dos I gots a 8bay name-brand NAS or just a 2bay name-brand NAS & just put an USB 8bay HDD enclosure on it?. 2. ?Dos I really ... really need/will-use near real-time video transcoding or can I just schedule transcoding them after mid-night? 3. ?Dos I really need/will-use NVMe SSD cache? 4. With fast client side caching of NAS folders ?Dos I really need/will-use 10Gbps networking? 5. ?Can I do most the heavy cpu/memory processing on my big boat-anchor home computer instead of on the little/tiny NAS? 6. Etc, etc, etc, etc Yeaps, I am over thinking it right-now. However I hates buying something I don't ever use (except for bragging-rights ;) or not buying something I really needed. In a nutshell, I would much prefer panaceas or ends-in-themselves. Buts every time I brought into one of those, I eventually gots-screwed with it (aka learning the hard-way ;) In any case Robbie-nator, Eddie-nator, & the Sea-Gull-nator have been a hell of a lots of help, thks.
@Cemilaws 8 ай бұрын
I just wanted backup mobile and using plex and i wanted 923+ but 224+ do the same with a gpu. I have also a i79700k desktop, but i think the easiest was getting 224+ so i went that way yesterday, today iam gonna buy 20tb hdd for it, making my pc as a nas would be conplicated and not ease to use like dsm 7 i think?
@bluesquadron593 8 ай бұрын
If you are looking for ease of use, Synology is the correct choice. DIY hardware and Truenas/unraid has higher ceiling, but could be much more involved.
@nascompares 8 ай бұрын
True, true, true!
@stacygirard647 7 ай бұрын
i know its a old video but here my intake personaly i have to go with money cause im on a budget and also waht i whant i woudl need both a nas and a computer to have virtual machine cause id ont se emyself running any vm on a celeron ect that is on premaid like synology(wish is the one i would go for if i buy a premaid nas) i m getting a computer for it ill have a proxmox running a vm linux vm running im not sure yet if its gonna be true nas or another os , a windows 10 to run my mymovies server(wihs is a listing movies you own ) ill probably run my plex there too to put mymovies in if i could i would get a rackmound version but i cant so ill get a computer wil have good graphic card for the encodding but ill plan on later on get a premade nas but its my startup nas (but im not scared of more techy learning part either the only thinkgs why i would choose synology is the posibility to mixed up disk size
@alonzosmith6189 8 ай бұрын
So far no issues with my QNAP TVS-h874-i9. Which replaced my HP Z800 running TrueNAS
@nascompares 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely, for a stress free life, Turnkey NAS is frigging unbeatable
@himboslice_ 2 ай бұрын
I already do enough tinkering with home assistant, so went synology.
@jorgejuan439 7 ай бұрын
Synology and QNAP will cost many more calamari than TrueNAS but it is way simple to setup for the novice.
@user-kg6uj6ji5p 8 ай бұрын
I really tempted want to buy DS423+ because it's look really simple and has lower power consumtion under 5 watt, however use cases mostly sharing media over network without any problem and i ended up with diy nas with consumer board. However qnap TS-464-8G is pretty interesting, it can do 4k transcoding but price margin between international market and here doesn't make sense. Ds423+ in indonesia cost 8.500.000 idr (around 533 usd to 600 usd) while qnap TS-464 price are 13.200.000 idr (around 800 usd). That qnap price doesn't make sense for me
@tommyking626 8 ай бұрын
The diff is in ram. But you are right it is insane
@casey1027 8 ай бұрын
I see a U-Nas there.... any plans on reviewing it?
@nascompares 8 ай бұрын
Already done, just need to schedule it. NASCompares supporter on KoFi and Patreon already have access though
@BlankBrain 8 ай бұрын
I built a GnuBee NAS and got it working. It was severely under-powered, and every little issue required spending huge amounts of time to research and resolve. Eventually, I got a very good deal on a Synology DS920+. It does almost everything I need. DSM native support of Android is abysmal. Fortunately, Syncthing works with everything except photos. DSM is good, but support is non-existent.
@craigprocter1232 15 күн бұрын
xpeneology for the win - DSM on your own hardware.
@christerwiberg1 8 ай бұрын
I really like Synology and it’s SHR, making it easier to upgrade, but still can not recommend it when most has just 1 GBE. I know you can insert a NIC for 10 GBE, but I really hope they upgrade the Nic next time they release an upgrade , at least to 2.5 GBE. Hope my DS916 is working until then. I really do not understand why you would like an i9 in a NAS either, prefer a cool and quiet CPU instead, like the AMD they now have (I do not need the gpu for conversions of movies).
@nascompares 8 ай бұрын
I've seen some pretty crazy franken'NAS' over the years and an i9 is actually surprisingly tame/straight forward .. it's the ones who want to build 3z GPU flash/fabric monster racks for Crypto that are more powerful than god, and make about as much noise, that I will never, NEVER understand
@nadtz 8 ай бұрын
Once you say encrypt a ZFS pool/datastore or do deduplication or compression you will need a decent modern CPU (just as an example, I'm less familiar with Synology on the backend for a similar situation). Not necessarily an I9 and I would have to check what AMD CPU's they are using as they are probably fit for purpose but depending on your setup there might be reason for relatively high horsepower and/or modern instructions from the CPU, especially the busier the NAS will be or the faster the network.
@jefftank3300 6 ай бұрын
I like building my own systems, but Synology's SHR makes increasing capacity so much easier.
@mariuszm7043 8 ай бұрын
Went from Truenas to QNAP. Couldn't be more happy with this decision :) BTW, ts-464 works with 32GB (or even 64GB) of RAM with no issues. Also $40 X520-DA1 10G SFP+ works just great. Maybe an idea to test the compatibility within the NAS systems with "unsupported" amount of memory?
@grics667 8 ай бұрын
Wanna buy the 264-8G. Do you think it's worth?
@mariuszm7043 8 ай бұрын
@@grics667 Nope, 8G version is not extendable (soldered memory). Get the 4G version and add as much RAM as you need. Ihave 32GB at the moment, I run 2 VMs on it, with nginx, nextcloud, home assistant, mariadb and a lot of other stuff, Plex media server QVR monitoring. Stable as a rock.
@TazzSmk 8 ай бұрын
I wonder if M.2 10Gbe NIC modules would become more common :D
@nascompares 8 ай бұрын
I mean, you CAN get direct m.2 to 10Gbe adapter modules (innodisk started it I THINK!) but the issue is mainly physical adoption..Synology went out their way to do it, probably to keep things "in house", but realistically it's gonna be a big hurdle for those brands that support/require 3rd party HW integration on their platform
@cheako91155 8 ай бұрын
Turn key warranties ?can? have obnoxious rules and troubleshooting steps. YMMV
@AndreasA.S. 8 ай бұрын
currently my homebuilt truenas boxes are the only ones running, my QNAP decided it wasnt going to properly reboot last night and thats actually putting a cramp on a business coworker that is working from home (lucky stiff) that i setup a sync to the complete POS buffalo NAS at work. im actually working on using some of the older computers here to build a trunas server for work, instead of using my personal stuff. i recently build a modern computer with my old 12700k proc and a workstation/server motherboard in a node 308 box, its a beast and will be taking over as primary system by the end of the year. the other box is a 3770 z77 board and its used to learn and test settings before committing them to the main system. they are both accessible at the moment, while the qnap is not. and if i had the same reboot issues, im able to use IPMI. i got my feet wet with Qnap, but im moving on to DIY. if you do truenas, learn everything you can about permission settings, thats been my bigest painpoint with setting up apps. ps: the reboot issue is apparently down to how jellyfin doesnt shutdown properly on the Qnap
@nascompares 8 ай бұрын
*lucky staff* - MR CAPITALIST! Cheers for sharing your input and experience bud. All this helps future users who are debating DiY/BYO NAS' vs Turnkey, appreciated man
@AndreasA.S. 8 ай бұрын
@@nascompares only catch, ecores had to be turned off for it to even boot the 12700 (kernel issue). but finding ECC mem, and a "modern" board was an adventure, once its all 100 % in full use and im done learning and start using, im planning on a full writeup, plus all the probs and solutions ive had for my particular use goals. thing is, i love how QNAP access works, and im spending time matching that. oh yeah, including the 4 16TB exos drives, total cost for a server almost as fast as my modern gaming system cost just a hair over $2000 USD. and the new system has room for near 6 more drives easily. the test system cost nothing, old rattling around parts. but its very very functional
@stacygirard647 6 ай бұрын
Personally I. Goose to go with a PC turn into a Nas I got a old pc I bought on the marketplace and added SSD (3 1to SSD ) + one nvme 2 to that I already had plus the 120gig SSD that came with and installed proxmoa and true nas still working on it building my home lab ( I am about to I stall guacamole on a Linus VM And then I want to install a windows.that will be my jellyfin / Plex for my movies /tv series But I think I made a mistake when I installed the proxmox on .y 120 big I should have put it on the 2 TB to have more space for .u VM / iso Cause presently when ever I try to upload/download any iso I get an error 0 Wish I check and it is said to be space ot enough But I also think of getting a Nas ( or qnap asustor or Synology To do ma kip of something else
@ptpeetee 8 ай бұрын
I'm on my 3rd Synology box, having first bought one in 2006. However my current DS1815+ has become "end of life" and Synology won't be supplying any further updates on it. The current DS1823xs+ is about £1700 for something that i probably won't use any additional features. Not only that, it becomes choosey about memory and drives. The CPU in the "new model" is a Ryzen V1780B which was launched in Dec 2018 for goodness sake. Sorry, Synology, you've lost me as a customer. I bought an 8 bay machine because i expected it to last me a long time and feel its been retired before its time. I'm going to head down the open source route and will no doubt miss some Synology features, but I don't have the funds to give them this time round.
@nascompares 8 ай бұрын
Sit tight for a few days, got a couple of good DSM comparisons coming!
@BikeGremlinUS 8 ай бұрын
I wrote a pre-sales email to the official Synology partner in my country. Weeks ago. Got no reply. That doesn't inspire confidence in terms of dealing with any warrranty issues. DIY (general computer-PC) hardware, on the other hand, is easy to source and replace.
@nascompares 8 ай бұрын
Sad to hear that man. What's your region?
@BikeGremlinUS 8 ай бұрын
@@nascompares I'm from Serbia. EU is all around us, but we ain't in it! :) With all the pros and cons of that.
@RubySapior 15 күн бұрын
Why do you need a i9 just for a nas? Heck even running 4k transcoding for plex just requires the intel N100 which is an Atom cpu. Edit: Oh you do mention the N100, but why do you even need anything over a i5 for a NAS? Synthogy doesnt have the customization to run a home server.
@xythiera7255 9 күн бұрын
If you want to run VMs theb a i9 is great and peopl that know they need the power will get it but the majority doesnt need anything that powerfull
@TheDropForged 8 ай бұрын
I have always built my own NAS. Never bought ready made. Still, I am not tempted to buy.
@Bill_the_Red_Lichtie 2 ай бұрын
I went with a turn key solution, an HL15 😉
@debugin1227 8 ай бұрын
Why choose? I'll have both
@nascompares 8 ай бұрын
Alright slScrooge McDuck! Don't you have a safe full of gold coins to dive into? *shakes angrily and British-y*
@nickt4508 8 ай бұрын
theres a way to run synology on a self build server
@nascompares 8 ай бұрын
Ummm..yes...but we don't discuss Xpeno... Oh...I've said too much
@wrlee 8 ай бұрын
@nascompares I thought it was weird that there was no mention of Xpeno; then I saw your reply. Could you please expand a bit about why you avoid discussion of it? Is it because you don't wanna piss off Synology? (Which would be understandable)
@tangodown2721 8 ай бұрын
Xpenolog, but who knows if synology will make it impossible soon.
@nascompares 8 ай бұрын
They won't make it easy, but you can understand their position. The price point of a Synology NAS' is in the software more than the hardware...that's where the revenue from the platform goes, and fairplay to them..it's 10/10
@GrantSR 7 ай бұрын
I would like to see a comparison between a separate NAS and a RAID array connected locally to my desktop PC. You know, like they used to do before NAS was invented. I don't really have a need for setting up my own clown, I mean cloud service. I NEVER intend to allow outside internet connections into my storage. If I need my other devices to have network access to my data, I can use the network connection between those devices and my main PC. If I am going to spend the money to build up what is essentially a mini-PC to control a DIY NAS, then I might as well just build up a real PC editing workstation, and attach a RAID array directly to it.
@lewislane1143 2 ай бұрын
Sounds like Synology is a no go.
@hakdaman 8 ай бұрын
good video..... but i like diy
@nascompares 8 ай бұрын
Cheers...and yes..I do not blame you!
@bobbymoss6160 7 ай бұрын
Just buy the Synology or QNAP, it's not worth the trouble buying a decided DIY NAS.
@kevinwade1253 8 ай бұрын
Hope when you do the DIY build all the components are not from Aliexpress, whats wrong with UK amazon,ebuyer e.t.c because the prices are not what you quote with taxes and delivery added. Want to follow with your DIY build but not buying from China.
@nascompares 8 ай бұрын
Unfortunately the build guides are dictated by user requests. If I make a video on how to buy and build NAS' components, the bulk of people watching these videos are from the U.S and according to trends, they buy from a lot of Chinese retailers. It sucks, but it's true
@offenblende0078 8 ай бұрын
... please stay serious ! don't use this stupid clips in between ... !!!
@nascompares 8 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear that bud. Just looking to spicy things up a bit. Tbh I haven't had too much push back on these. Never the less, doesn't mean everyone can/will like it. I'll keep an eye on these and if they are unpopular, I'll reduce/remove them as per
@nascompares 8 ай бұрын
Also, full disclosure, I've not been 'serious' since November 24th 1992.
@bluesquadron593 8 ай бұрын
@@nascompares don’t do that, I quite like them!
@AlistairBrugsch 8 ай бұрын
Why u so serious? Long Informational videos like this need a bit to break them up otherwise it's half an hour of him talking to the camera. The video equivalent to a wall of text. What he should have done is use different clips of the IT crowd though and not just re-using Jen saying about typing Google into Google. He should have used a "don't drop the internet" or "elders of the internet" at least once 😂
@PumaM90 8 ай бұрын
@@nascomparesI like the spinning disc more than this one you used.
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