Synology NAS Upgrade Step-by-Step
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Күн бұрынI upgraded my Synology NAS from the DS1520+ to the DS1821+ because I was running out of space. This was not a project I was looking forward to since the NAS is the core of my entire home lab. But - ultimately, I pulled the trigger on the migration and documented step-by-step what I learned throughout the process.
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Intro
1:55 - DS1821+ Overview and Initial Setup
5:00 - Migration Assistant
11:05 - Verify Backups
13:28 - Migrating Docker
14:39 - Migrating Virtual Machines
17:37 - Final Thoughts
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@DBTechYT Ай бұрын
I've actually been thinking about mapping my folders for Documents and Downloads and all that to a NAS just to maintain consistency. Glad to know others have been successful with it!
@AJ-fo8vtuhtde Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. I used a different method when I upgraded my 415+ to the 923+: I just moved all drives to the new NAS. Next step was to change the drives one by one and restore the SHD. Main advantage was that my NAS was online the whole time (which is important as I’m using is for my surveillance cameras)
@woodmanvictory Ай бұрын
I absolutely give Synology props with how user friendly and feature rich DSM is but dayum is the HW wildly expensive for the price.
@geraldh.8047 Ай бұрын
The DS1821+ is such an amazing piece of hardware. A 4-core Zen1 CPU from 2017 along with massive 4GB of RAM and it even has Gigabit Ethernet, just like the Diskstation DS408 from 2008. It's amazing what you can get for >1000$ in 2024.
@woodmanvictory Ай бұрын
lol
@gdehoon3604 Ай бұрын
It’s the software, stupid :-).
@Dextermorga Ай бұрын
🙄
@andyhey4576 Ай бұрын
" massive 4GB of RAM" BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!
@LarsHHoog Ай бұрын
A caveat is that the Migration Assistant is not capable of migrating from e.g EXT4 to BTRFS
@DataHoarders Ай бұрын
wow, jsut wow. this video was really really good. keep up the good work!!
@stangtennis Ай бұрын
Would love a video on your Home Assistant setup on the NAS. I've always wanted to put my HA on my Synology, but am just to nervous about issues with the Zigbee dongle and IoT network isolation issues (with the NAS both needing to be on my isolated 'server'-network AND the IoT network. So a guide from you on that setup would be great! :)
@johnreyna5080 Ай бұрын
Good all disaster and recovery! Recovery of functionality is very important.
@axel.fyoutubeb Ай бұрын
Great video, thanks!
@turbo2ltr Ай бұрын
I love my DS1618, I did the same thing.. maxed out the ram, and put a PCI SFP+ adapter for 10Gbit.
@techsurfer81 Ай бұрын
Great video, just one tip: you cannot skip the "create a new volume" on the new nas as the nas needs a working volume to install apps from the package manager!
@mweed7535 Ай бұрын
Just curious if you have ever looked at the Glacier Backup app for Synology for your cloud backup strategy? Thank you for all the great videos, love your channel.
@alexmart2019 Ай бұрын
Thank so much for the informative video Can you explain why did you consider upgrading instead of using an NAS expansion? Is it because ur original NAS has no expansion port ?
@Minionz Ай бұрын
I agree with this setup, other than the NVME caching. Lots of horror stories of people having issues in the long run with it. I'd probably use them as a storage pool if they are used for anything.
@ayush8 Ай бұрын
Nice overview! Could you also do a video on how you handle data security/encryption?
@m.p.5821 Ай бұрын
I would appreciate a video for the Backblaze setup on your Synology.
@andrewenglish3810 Ай бұрын
@CrosstalkSolutions if your old Synology volume was setup with SHR all you really had to do was remove your old drives and put them in the new Synology which it would detect your old drive setup and migrate it into the new Synology. To upgrade the drives if you were using SHR on the old NAS you can switch out the old drives 1 or 2 at time depending on your SHR level until you have all 12TB installed.
@gdehoon3604 Ай бұрын
So you’re running low on storage…. And instead of just replacing some drives, there was the opportunity to do some Synology marketing :-(.
@conrat2000 Ай бұрын
Great video. I do miss the old theme music. But great video nonetheless.
@byrd203 Ай бұрын
You do not need a second cable to put VM's on a vlan network you could do vlanlan tagging I have done this all you need to do is go to the virtual machine manger and click add and assign the VLAN tag then assign that VM to that network then it is on the other network without a second cable plus you want to disable all management interfaces off the second nic so the system does not get confused only do this if you have nic bonding setup
@PaulPetitt Ай бұрын
Did you consider adding one or two DX517 expansion units to your old NAS? You could have added 5 drives per unit and up to two units. Same units are compatible with your new NAS also.
@djheckler92 Ай бұрын
I use the same RAM in my 1821+. The only problem is if you ever need help from Synology support they will blame whatever issue you're having on the unsupported RAM, so have to remove it first and re-install stick that came with it.
@gavin1215 Ай бұрын
I’m using the same unit and my homeassistant keeps dropping network connection. Can you do a video on how you set yours up from the start?
@fabianurner7533 Ай бұрын
Can you say something about the power consumption in idle?
@liutang Ай бұрын
Why not use your old NAS as local backup? I have 3 synologys, 2 local and one remote. I use snapshot replication between the two local synologys. Then hyper backup to the remote.
@debugin1227 Ай бұрын
30 tb these days is like my 180 k floppy from the 80's just go bigger
@matejkotnik9675 Ай бұрын
Isn't easyer to stuff data to Synology from PC and than HB to external drive and remote NAS with versioning? You may later reuse old nas for remote backup, just replace few drives with bigger, right?😊
@vineetkhandpur3490 Ай бұрын
use the 1520 as a Hyperbackup server? adds to your back up redundancy. do the first (primary) while on the same network, pay family members/friends to keep it their place (for power and internet), save your Backblaze costs
@dubas1974 Ай бұрын
it's much easier to move the drives wholesale from old nas to new nas, then slowly replace the drives.
@SteveBerube Ай бұрын
suggesting unraid...not locked in with any hardware - easy to upgrade and again with docker and virtual machines
@sashagelert9320 Ай бұрын
a nas is a nas is a nas, lots of ways to accomplish the same thing. Today's video like is purely for that dark mode t-shirt 🙂
@BeatsByBillawala Ай бұрын
Hey, would you happen to be selling the 1520+? It’s the last generation with intel quick sync and I’ve been looking to upgrade but quick sync is something i need.
@BoraHorzaGobuchul Ай бұрын
A half decent mini PC will be a better transcoding-capable media server than a Synology, so I wouldn't lose any sleep over it
@BeatsByBillawala Ай бұрын
True, but i treat the synology as infrastructure, so I’m not often messing with it directly and just like to have it chugging along in the background. Adding another machine to the mix is… not something i really wanna do tbh.
@twistedmister1 Ай бұрын
You don’t want to sync to Backblaze, you want to use Hyperbackup. Sync does not protect from ransomware or disk corruption as encrypted/corrupt files will replicate that way.
@adpena1379 Ай бұрын
Hi, I have issue with the adding of storage.
@mrxmry3264 Ай бұрын
so if all drives are the same size, does SHR provide any advantage?
@belrpr Ай бұрын
Yes but only when you expand later. If all drive slots are full you can replace a disk with a higher capacity (You will need to replace all tolerance + 1 disk to get more space)
@The_Dude_1 Ай бұрын
Out of curiosity, why did you go to an entirely new NAS instead of just adding the expansion unit?? A 1520 allows a total of 15 drives, it has an eSATA port on the back to connect the expansion unit.
@CrosstalkSolutions Ай бұрын
DS1520+ doesn't support 10Gbps.
@BoraHorzaGobuchul Ай бұрын
The expansion unit is ridiculously expensive, almost as much as a nas. Best to buy a more capable (for values of capable, but it's Synology, so expectations are not set high) nas, and use the old one for backup
@The_Dude_1 Ай бұрын
@@CrosstalkSolutions ahhh, ok fair enough.
@scottyoung3354 Ай бұрын
Does it complain at all about the Crucial RAM? Heard folk saying when not using the official Synology RAM they get alarms etc from the DS all the time.
@CrosstalkSolutions Ай бұрын
Worked fine.
@michaelafcadio Ай бұрын
Regarding the meaning of "3-2-1 backups",.does that mean 3 COPIES of the data or 3 BACKUPS (i.e. 4 total copies)? You say you're not meeting 3-2-1 for all your important data, but that's only if you interpret it as 3 total backups, with 2 backups on two different media, and one off site. Which to me as actually more like 4-3-1 instead of 3-2-1.
@brunosalezze Ай бұрын
These are VERY expensive 800 GB NVME drives and 10G nics. For business, is the usual, but for home use?
@vuanhson Ай бұрын
Backup is never enough =)) we just trying to lower the chance of dataloss
@JasperWaale Ай бұрын
Why 12GB and not 20GB? The RAM issues indicate a deviation from your own advice. The primary NAS configuration concerns revolve around disk and RAM, followed by CPU and network considerations. Do any of the Unify devices support 10G, or is that a future consideration since there was no additional cost? I've also accounted for that. How do you effectively work from home if your folders are mapped to a local NAS? It doesn't seem very flexible, and granting remote access poses security risks. Implementing weekly backups or background backups to a folder using Windows Backup, or even leveraging Xcopy, which is often undervalued as a mirroring tool, could mitigate these concerns effectively. When used with the /mir switch, Xcopy will copy all files from the source to the destination and delete any files in the destination that do not exist in the source
@richardellishk Ай бұрын
why not just use the DX517 to extend your storage?
@erichubbard7754 Ай бұрын
Did you use BTRFS or EXT4?
@dwazeke Ай бұрын
Virtual machine manager won't work of you use ext4, so brfrs is the way to go
@erichubbard7754 Ай бұрын
@@dwazeke That's good to know, any real downsides to btrfs?
@BoraHorzaGobuchul Ай бұрын
@@erichubbard7754on Synology - not really
@svenmichelsde Ай бұрын
I strongly disagree to attaching the USB disk to the NAS to cover the two different "media" part of the 3-2-1 strategy. Here is why: with attachting the disk to the synology, you basically make them "one". If a power surge happens, it most likely will toast all of it. If some "bad" stuff happens, like malware encrypting the synology, the disk will be affected as well. If some "kernel" bug happens around the filesystem for example, it will also destroy both copies most likely. I would recommend to either put the external disk on a separate system, maybe just a raspi or so, receiving data every now and then, or stick to the "plug me in directly" external harddrive.
@johnknauerify Ай бұрын
Would a UPS on the NAS solve the surge concern?
@svenmichelsde Ай бұрын
@@johnknauerify not for me, as for example the UPS itself could cause it. For me it's more or less like a raid - just another disk in the same box. It's not a bad thing, just doesn't fulfill the requirements. But again, purely my opinion.
@GotWire Ай бұрын
why don't you build a Nas?
@BryceCampbell Ай бұрын
OK, fine, I'll stop putting off my Synology upgrade.
@richardturkson5916 Ай бұрын
Pihole vs Piehole.
@NetITGeeks Ай бұрын
I don't like Synology because they are trying too hard to lock you into their own products. For warranty claims, you must have Synology hard drives, Synology memory modules, Synology network card, etc. I don't like QNAP because of the hacking issues. This is sad for al consumers because both Synology and QNAP are companies that make reliable products. They are just trying too hard to be like Apple Inc.
@ovarb12 Ай бұрын
Synology is 2-3 the price it should be. Just maybe get some larger drives. Hey they make 16tb hd now. Huge waste of money. Asustor has great nas only they are half the cost and x4 the amount of ram, but they use a more modern cpu. Very bad!
@LubomirGeorgiev Ай бұрын
Wait. How is Windows PC not 3-2-1?
@BoraHorzaGobuchul Ай бұрын
Yeah, it's 3 copies of data, not 3 backups :)
@LubomirGeorgiev Ай бұрын
@@BoraHorzaGobuchul my understanding has always been that 1 of the copies IS the original/live data. Per Veeam guide: Maintain three copies of your data: This includes the original data and at least two copies. By that logic only his user profile redirection does not obide by the 3-2-1 rule.
@chrispeden979 Ай бұрын
This is not necessary. Just move the drives and you’ll save yourself days. This appears to be just a video to advertise for synology. #ad
@tubeDude48 Ай бұрын
Still on windoz?...that's sad!
@patricklyons7683 Ай бұрын
Gibberish comment about scam fiscal shite on a video about nas stuff.
@MichaelDomer 29 күн бұрын
Overpriced Synology junk
@FougaFrancois Ай бұрын
The Problem is the following, those are NAS, and you can expect them to last decades, but synology recently has stopped supporting some of their NAS, only 15 years old ... defeating the purpose of a NAS... I have given up on them because of this, Cloud is actually a better deal because of their decisions.
@FougaFrancois Ай бұрын
And let's be clear, it would be a little cost for Synology to recompile DMS for those early products they released. Ignoring their 5 disks Raid (high end back then) is a brand killer. The lack of DMS recompile for some of Synology NAS makes it a long-term hazardous solution.
@BoraHorzaGobuchul Ай бұрын
I don't see myself using the same NAS hardware in 15 years, so not an issue for me - I'll have upgraded by that time. Cloud cannot be a better deal because for large amount of data, it's way more expensive, and it's not local, and it's not under your control. If you don't like S's approach, you can always build your own NAS, then you can be sure of it's longevity
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