It's not always fair.

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I loved the remake and was hesitant to try the original because EVERY review went on and on about the bad controls and cyberspace. I absolutely love the original. It plays fine and cyberspace isn't complicated at all. They both do certain things better but overall, both are incredible

Seeing how shodans bio experiments turned out in the second one, it would have been cool to at least have a room or two have that look from the original. I do enjoy it as is too

I actually wonder if NightDive, with all credits due, just took System Shock Portable made by the System Shock community and distributed for free, repacked it and released commercially as an Enhansed Edition? It was kinda bummer, wasn't it?

​@@denkho6118I've seen signs that they're doing that with ss2ee too

Eehhh, as much as I appreciate the campy resident evil style of the original, he just sounded like a young college kid. The remake sounded like a person that would be in charge of experiments and losing his mind

Yeah. The reason the game got so many negative reviews is simply because of people expecting it to play out like your standard shooter. It's not one of them. If that's what you want, skip system shock altogether and play dead space instead.

While I liked it I also agree. Every log is packed with the dramatic sighs and the weird stuttering that you only hear in video game voice acting. Dead space did a similar theme more effectively. They were horrified but believable

Actually they're the only ones allowed to do that. North America as the continent is completely owned by TriOptimum. A "government" exists but has only some minor tasks. So the police and every other enforcement and political branch is entirely owned by TriOptimum and thus they definitely can and will detain random citizens when they break their rules. Actual quote from TriOptimum: "We value human life, but corporate secrets must be protected at all costs".

Your unwarranted anger and bitterness comes across as exceptionally juvenile. Whether you like the term or not, there are still aspects of gameplay one associates with an “immersive sim” that aren’t found in many games - modern or not. Yes, it’s a poor term with a poor definition, but through its consistent use regarding certain styles of games (and not others despite technically fitting its definition), one can grow a greater understanding of exactly what kind of game it’s referring to and in turn, the definition narrows. The pixelated graphics look dated on release, as opposed to regular textures taking much longer to date. Sure, the pixelation can help it in the long run, but in the short term, it looks gimmicky and ugly. It also just doesn’t gel well with a game that utilises all of these other modern rendering techniques and it actively hampers otherwise great looking assets. It has also become a serious cliche within games that are throwbacks to bygone eras and comes off as an excuse to be lazy rather than a genuine attempt to make the game age better two decades down the track. If the primary purpose of the remake is to make the game look better, then why would you actively prevent that by making it look like a garbled mess as soon as you get close to anything? I also think this is an out of date argument. This isn’t the age of early 3D anymore. I don’t believe games today are going to age nearly as poorly as those from the late 90s and early 2000s. We might be utilising 16K textures in the future, but we have more than enough polygons and high resolution enough textures to sell the effect now. It’ll be down to refinement at this point. Older 3D games only held up so poorly because their characters resembled a stack of blocks more than people and textures were so blurry text was barely decipherable. And while I agree about art style, I don’t see how it’s directly relevant as an argument, and Thief is a weird one to mention considering it always had filtered textures. I’d personally rather professional grade actors overplaying the drama than random people off the street sounding as if they’re voicing characters in a cartoon for infants. 56:09 that’s obviously not the point he was making. Corporations don’t enforce the law themselves. If you leaked Apple’s personal information, would you expect Apple themselves to come and break down your door? No, the police would... if you’re going to be a smug little prick, at least make certain you’re right. 1:04:22 WHY ARE YOU YELLING If it didn’t happen in the original, and it still didn’t in the remake, can you fault him for believing that it’s intended design? Especially when a lot of the game functions identically to the original? That’s only logical. He was also uncertain. Your petty passive aggression is yet again unwarranted. You come off like someone who watched way too many TotalBiscuit videos back in the day and now holds slightly elitist points of views irregardless of context.

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What sort of loon would think that pixelating art automatically makes it good? That's just sad.

Wellz I believe games this old deserve a remake, not the last of us for example. System shock is 30 years old and needs to be remade to get the full vision of the og game

That's because the new one is bad and fanboys like to pretend it's good. I'd instead recommend playing system shock 2, and then playing the updated original shock if you like 2. If you liked Deus ex, shock 2 was more atmospheric. The thing is the upgrade path is a trap, only hacker with certain upgrades are viable. Shock 2 then has an unofficial new game+ when you know the door codes because there's a certain door with weapons and armor early game you don't know the code until later.

That's because they're completely different experiences. Bioshock is a pretty straightforward action game with very simple level design and Deus Ex has a lot more verticality, as well as filling the levels with non-combatants who you can talk to. System Shock is a dungeon crawler on a spaceship. There's nobody else there, it's just a big maze full of monsters, loot, key items, and traps, with the progression being focused on working out vague instructions to progress. If you don't like mazes or you can't handle ambiguity in the instructions you're given, you won't like System Shock. If you want to have a conversation with another character where you can ask them questions about what you are supposed to do, you won't be able to do that. I feel like the most obvious problem is that there's no such thing as an "immersive sim" in terms of game design, it's a really wishy washy term that is more descriptive of the underlying objectives when it comes to the level of interaction with the game environment that they're aiming for, but has nothing to do with how the game plays. If nobody had told you what an immersive sim was you'd never think that Thief, System Shock, Deus Ex, Ultima Underworld, Bioshock, ect. were remotely similar to one another.

fuq is ur jib

@@titsmcgee1538 common sense? Devs jumping off a bridge and wondering why they go splat. Maybe not jump off the bridge or use a bungie cord or parachute bare minimum? But if you make that suggestion, the devs act like reserve psychology contrarians and double down on bad decisions. Which is a problem with 99% of modern game devs who refuse to take suggestions from the community and ruin the IP. Blizzard, Bethesda, etc. The new games aren't even being made by the original devs, they got fired or left then the Corp hires a 3rd party from India to make slop with all the actual work being put into the store and how to monetize. Even if it's not outsourced, it's still different devs and the devs don't respect feedback or make the game good. The devs from Ubisoft complained about Elden Ring, and it's like maybe realize your concept isn't perfect. Palworld got it right, make the game something players want to play. Interplay's motto used to be, "By gamers, for gamers". Games aren't played by shareholders. Design the games for the players. I don't think the system shock remake is what anyone wanted, it's not a good remake for the old players or new players, it just sits in this middle ground area that alienates everyone. If I wanted to play shock 2, I'd play that, and I'd never buy a remake. Shock 1 was supposed to be action not horror.

All of this rant is subjective. I love both versions. Oh, and it did sell pretty well. Not sure why you tried to throw that in there