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4-Man CQB: Dealing with Center Fed Rooms

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Tactical Hyve

Tactical Hyve

Күн бұрын

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@idontwanttoregister4322
@idontwanttoregister4322 8 ай бұрын
Me personally as the one man, I would’ve panned the door first getting a glimpse of the room and then entered versus button hooking. However, both works and it was safe. Great video guys
@notsure9301
@notsure9301 3 ай бұрын
The main issue with points of domination is that on average it takes 6 seconds for the third man to enter. If done by the book this means that no one adresses the center of the room for 6 seconds. Its for this reason you have different variations like center step for a snapshot which has its own problems. All the issues with points of domination has pushed DEVGRU to create a new system of cqb called delibirate clearance. In this new system the method of clearing the room starts with a threshold assessment. This means slowly pieing the threshold in order to clear 90 percent of the room from the outside before commiting 2 men to the hard corners. If you clear the room from the outside and only need to attack the hard corners in a standard room (and most problems youll find) you only need 2 people per room. With 2 people in a room you can safely move around in a room and not have to treat the center of the room like a minefield (as long as theres not a problem your buddy is working where you want to walk to) 4 people in a room is just added confusion and restricts everyones movement and can bog down the team in clearance. Requireing verbal comands and overt coordination to un jam yourselves in the case of there being problems that have to be worked.
@i.ak.1684
@i.ak.1684 6 ай бұрын
The ones I can remember saying it are Dj Shipley and Andy Stumpf, beyond that, I must've heard very often now (only after nerding out) that dynamic entry sucks if it's not hostage rescue. I get it, if people in the tactical community low key don't want to put that out there for everyone to know. But I'll say it for the record: from a logical standpoint, from an experience standpoint against opfor in milsim, and most importantly having heard smu operators say it, I am convinced you should clear as much as you can from outside the room. Not panning without stopping, but slicing, stopping on contact, adressing, not penetrating the room with the top of your rifle, to not give away yourself, and then only, with a two guy, criss crossing.
@Grimoriumm
@Grimoriumm 4 ай бұрын
Nah you're right, clearing from the threshold is that new new and keeps people alive imo
@notsure9301
@notsure9301 3 ай бұрын
Your right, delibirate clearance is the new methodology. However there are times within that system that dynamic is an option, like in narrow hallways or in hallways that have alot of open doors. Essentially, go slow until you dont have the option to due to exposure to more angles. But when you go dynamic you dont do points of domination, this is old school methodolgy that got thrown out in the GWOT.
@christophermolina5484
@christophermolina5484 Жыл бұрын
“Draw the curtains, don’t SWAT yourself”. Love you Dorr 😂. Disclaimer: No love lost to you Dutch
@DBCooper81
@DBCooper81 Жыл бұрын
I LOVE this channel!! Best information anywhere on youtube. Dutch was a spectacular addition.
@lebanonchristian3951
@lebanonchristian3951 3 ай бұрын
Doing that kind of room clearing in real life you will end up in a funeral
@trava4156
@trava4156 Жыл бұрын
This is dynamic only btw folks. Good stuff, dangerous shit.
@deeo1973
@deeo1973 5 ай бұрын
IMHO, upon clearing the threshold, there was a bit too much of a gap between 1 and 2, leaving 1 exposed to a possible threat behind him. Again IMHO, 1 could've assessed the threshold (or "cut the pie") from the outside and ended up on the left side of the door and entering from there. You then have 1 entering from the left, 2 from the right and both in a more linear path (as opposed to the button hook, which requires a 180 upon entry) and minimizing 1's exposure to whatever may be behind him. As we all know, no tactical method is 100% effective and almost anything will work given enough reps, this was just my 2 cents. Thank you for another great video and stay safe!
@jasonparker5746
@jasonparker5746 Жыл бұрын
That was excellent. All sectors were covered when entering through the fatal funnel.
@gregchabot7160
@gregchabot7160 Жыл бұрын
Simple direct and to the point. Outstanding gentleman, look forward to seeing more content for the new year.
@whatsup24_7
@whatsup24_7 Жыл бұрын
HAPPY NEW YEAR 🎊🎉🎊🎉💯
@doubletap3524
@doubletap3524 Жыл бұрын
These videos are extremely helpful , considering all that's going on in the world . Thanks for all you do and show.
@manhalen7046
@manhalen7046 5 ай бұрын
Helpful? You clearing rooms on a regular basis?😂
@jerryj3047
@jerryj3047 Жыл бұрын
If you want to be efficient you have to train CQB a lot almost daily, good video about basic👍👍
@EraserHeadTv
@EraserHeadTv 28 күн бұрын
I can watch these all day!!
@LeDiamondDog
@LeDiamondDog Жыл бұрын
HAPPY NEW YEAR to the TAC HYVE TEAM🎉🎉🎉 🎆🎆🏴‍☠️
@pg234forreal
@pg234forreal Жыл бұрын
I think it’s great that each of these SMExperts has enough ego-control to let the other dude talk. Each one of these guys could obviously teach the course
@rimes3719
@rimes3719 Жыл бұрын
Straight forward and very informative. Thank your gents, keep it up!!! Keep it safe!
@OriginofPain
@OriginofPain Жыл бұрын
Damn I click 30 seconds after upload! I love this channel
@keithfagan5424
@keithfagan5424 4 ай бұрын
And your typical Marine clears the room first with a frag....🤣
@Valorius
@Valorius Жыл бұрын
Happy New Years and may the LARP be with you!
@andybecker5374
@andybecker5374 Жыл бұрын
Happy new year. Love your videos. Thanks for sharing your real world experience with us.
@Theplaided1s
@Theplaided1s 8 ай бұрын
40 man CQB. Here comes the pain train. Woooooo Woooooo Woooooo Wooooo
@user-ns6le3sm6j
@user-ns6le3sm6j 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for the learning. I didn't know last man becomes first Man when moving on, but makes perfect sense. I'm assuming, #2 TL is always 2nd Man?!
@Oyakat88
@Oyakat88 4 ай бұрын
and you need to be shouldered to enter it reduce the chance of you getting it. You cant enter flat
@irafowlerjr.7492
@irafowlerjr.7492 Жыл бұрын
Always good info, thanks
@ihatedumbppl1826
@ihatedumbppl1826 Жыл бұрын
where's coch???
@renegadearms
@renegadearms Жыл бұрын
Happy new year 🎉!
@marsoelflaco5722
@marsoelflaco5722 Жыл бұрын
How do people feel about the sul position compared to the low ready position?
@AG_UofT
@AG_UofT Жыл бұрын
If a guy with a PKM in the middle of the room starts blasting the point man as soon as point man enters, would the point man address the PKM guy or the corner first?
@Matty8x8
@Matty8x8 Жыл бұрын
Win the fight/neutralize target always takes priority, then medical.
@TheBenchPressMan
@TheBenchPressMan 7 ай бұрын
I think the point is you have a sector to cover until you see a threat, if there’s a guy that is firing rounds off straight as you look into the room as the first guy, you start firing at him. There is no need to enter if you know you’ll get shot in the doorway, this technique is designs to help entry into a room where you cant see the threat in the doorway. But yea you shoot as soon as you see the threat.
@user-vb4yj2hl5f
@user-vb4yj2hl5f 7 ай бұрын
I wonder if the Jiaming watch they use is Casio.
@RealShawnhendrix
@RealShawnhendrix 5 күн бұрын
No one maintains situational awareness in the hall?
@timothytaylor3510
@timothytaylor3510 9 ай бұрын
I can tell the instructor has done plenty of CQB. Good technique. I’m partial to breaching myself . ☺️ good times
@sofit
@sofit Жыл бұрын
Can you explain snapshot and immediate threat concepts?
@AkiraSRT9
@AkiraSRT9 Жыл бұрын
Should have shown a form up after the initial room entry was concluded.
@RomeoMike22
@RomeoMike22 Жыл бұрын
I've noticed Dutch use a few british terms, is there a reason for that?
@R.Sole88109
@R.Sole88109 Жыл бұрын
I'd guess he's worked with 22 Reg
@jw5297
@jw5297 Жыл бұрын
Here's to a badasd 2023
@pilgrum23
@pilgrum23 8 ай бұрын
Not how I was taught first man would be dead
@JohnRodriguez-si9si
@JohnRodriguez-si9si 6 ай бұрын
Why is there such a controversy about " High Port" and " Low Ready" weapons carry in CQB. Is it an Army vs Navy thing?
@damanOts
@damanOts 7 ай бұрын
Maybe clear the room from beyond the threshold, then worry about the deadspace? Why did it take decades to figure that out? Maybe in another 20 years they will figure out a way to have the 1 and 2 ACTUALLY enter the room simultaneously, instead of having the 2 enter 1-3 seconds later and pretending that that is a simultaeneous entry. And then maybe in 40 years they will figure out you can actually shoot through certain walls, and you can just preemptively shoot along the wall at the deadspace instead of walking right into the funnel of bullets and hoping you are somehow gonna be faster than the guy who can literally shoot you with his fucking eyes closed cause he can hear your equipment/footsteps as you enter the room.
@leinardesteves3987
@leinardesteves3987 Жыл бұрын
Do you go in immediately after opening the door or do you clear what you can from the door first?
@RiverRockXIII
@RiverRockXIII 2 ай бұрын
Apparently gaming does teach a lot of real tactics haha. I feel moderately prepared. and will improve
@tydeg2887
@tydeg2887 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff! Tactical skinny jeans! lol
@GoldenWembley
@GoldenWembley 3 ай бұрын
Why did the Quiet kid send me this before school?
@aperturelabs8552
@aperturelabs8552 9 ай бұрын
Ok, so... The next time the 1st man (which was the 5th on the first time) will be the 4th again?
@946towguy2
@946towguy2 Жыл бұрын
Pressure sensitive trigger with 5 second delay on claymore means dead fire team. I say check room with pole cam and if anyone is inside, frag out.
@ScoutRiflelab
@ScoutRiflelab Жыл бұрын
So, why is it ok to hold your weapon any way the operator wants?
@zachsanger8303
@zachsanger8303 Жыл бұрын
comfortability. If you are smoother with a high ready than a low ready use that and vice versa.
@LingLing-ou6nt
@LingLing-ou6nt 9 ай бұрын
Unit tactics normally go of their standard operating procedures. There’s pros and cons to both, but the high ready has been proven overall to be more effective with minimal cons. I’ve never seen members in a professional tactical unit running both low and high in a stack.
@Grimoriumm
@Grimoriumm 4 ай бұрын
Not clearing center before the initial buttonhook made my butthole clench, I understand taking a dynamic approach is appropriate for situations with driving factors i.e. hostages, time sensitivity, etc. but for the purpose of the demo wouldn't a deliberate breach be more suitable seeing as this is a video on the basics? I'd imagine clearing from the threshold would be safer especially for civ training, at least in my opinion. But I'm not sure, thoughts?
@TonyGrazioli
@TonyGrazioli 2 ай бұрын
😢 rusha
@bh-2198
@bh-2198 Жыл бұрын
One minute out, gear up! :us
@Williams-zn8of
@Williams-zn8of 2 ай бұрын
s/o Rashad #uscaa
@Oyakat88
@Oyakat88 4 ай бұрын
Again I'm Delta so... Time is not against you, you die, you did something wrong
@sqeekms6186
@sqeekms6186 Жыл бұрын
6 Minute CQB course? We spent 8 hours on a half house just breaching the first room the first time we we're introduced to CQB.. We went full flow the next day though he took on mocktown with five simulated snipers
@vicomedia2389
@vicomedia2389 Жыл бұрын
What about 5 man, 6 man, 7 man or 8 man CQB? Seems a bit squeezey at some point
@ddguy7189
@ddguy7189 Жыл бұрын
No one left to cover entrance.Did not cleared entrance for trip devices. First men is slopy slicing the corner.Thanks. Good foot work big guy.
@TexasShaka
@TexasShaka Жыл бұрын
Let’s talk about “masker”
@ishogunronin6626
@ishogunronin6626 Жыл бұрын
I come here to use this for a VIDEO GAME and became a skilled player.
@ryangerald9173
@ryangerald9173 Ай бұрын
Best tip don't F with these dudes
@Williams-zn8of
@Williams-zn8of 2 ай бұрын
Pregnant pause #madamusa
@jpara617
@jpara617 Жыл бұрын
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@wecx2375
@wecx2375 11 ай бұрын
Kids in basic are better than these guys.
@whatsup24_7
@whatsup24_7 Жыл бұрын
1st
@tonyad4018
@tonyad4018 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand the point of this video, other than posting entry tactics on an open forum. If you are on a team you will be taught how to dominate and collapse rooms according to your teams ROE's and SOP's so anyone who actually needs this will be taught it. What's the point?
@masonallison8657
@masonallison8657 9 ай бұрын
Hmmm idk why do you think civilians should learn these types of things? Because everyone's got an opinion on it lol
@bicho.airsoft
@bicho.airsoft 8 ай бұрын
Espero que lembre delas quando precisar !
@Reddog630
@Reddog630 8 ай бұрын
i use this to help my team on discord for ready or not
@damanOts
@damanOts 7 ай бұрын
If the enemy is using the same tactics as you why is that a bad thing? You now know exactly how they are gonna clear a room, and you are intimately familiar with the weaknesses and counter tactics. And if any team is still doing this they are gonna die regardless. There is a reason they changed the SOP.
@DaBears0479
@DaBears0479 7 ай бұрын
Welp. This is Absolutely terrible
@TheMediocreMinuteman
@TheMediocreMinuteman Жыл бұрын
Went to buy a p320 dryfiremag... Didn't honor "TACHYVE" code.
@TacticalHyve
@TacticalHyve Жыл бұрын
It should be active. We will let them know.
@TheMediocreMinuteman
@TheMediocreMinuteman Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I'm a huge fan, i honestly appreciate it!
@TheMediocreMinuteman
@TheMediocreMinuteman Жыл бұрын
Today indeed it worked.. I'm ordering my dryfiremag now. Thanks guys!
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