Hey Guys, Tosh here. Thank you for your comments good and bad. Tactical Hyve and SOT will be doing a whole series of videos that test tactics, techniques and theories a long as you keep watching, I have a curriculum that covers many of the subjects you guys have mentioned. Thanks again for your input. Also one of the viewers asked about my hand. if you want Tactical Hyve to do a vid on it. Let Myles Know.

Exposing these test scenarios is exactly what people need to see! I haven't seen any other youtube videos where it applies real gunfighting chaos in a force-on-force environment. Keep making these videos!

The PICATINNY on toshs arm is so BADASS

I know this is a role playing scenario, but in a real situation create distance the second you feel there might be a threat. If someone came out yelling at me to stay out of his neighborhood I definitely wouldn’t continue walking towards him.

Tosh remember that drawing first is a big legal problem, seen as excalation. Love these research scenarios, great work. For the younger crowd one might dive & roll to a safe position, or perhaps kneel quuickly and return fire. This makes the bad guy use marksmanship, which they apparently lack, and favors the trained shooter.

What if you had kids with you in these scenarios? I’d really like to see what that changes. This is an amazing series for practical testing, thank you!

Hey Tosh great video, you have really made me change my current training. With that being said I wanted to know if you can possibly do a part three but this time involving a scenario where you have a child (infant, child, then teen) with you and another scenario where you have another adult with you. In both scenarios you are the only person armed against the bad guy.

I love these videos

I love and appreciate the content y'all are putting out. I'm looking forward to practicing some techniques I've learned next trip to the range. I have a question in this scenario. Maybe you've covered it previously, so please forgive my ignorance. What about trying to disengage or diffuse the situation, and what would be some good techniques to do so? And if that goes south, how to draw, move, seek cover in that situation? Thanks again for the great content. I really have learned a lot from y'all.

I love these real life/ everyday scenarios 🤘keep doing videos like this!! This is how more people should be training

Love the videos. Great topic to debate and see in action. Thanks gentlmen

Thank you 😊

Have Myles do this again while holding something in his hand Many ppl in gunfights don't drop whatever it is they're holding which compromises their grip making accurate shots difficult.

With what happened in Brooklyn, we saw a situation where a public defender with a sidearm went up against an active shooter with a rifle and body armor. How would you guys feel about exploring asymmetric scenarios like that? At what point do you assess armored vs unarmored? Is it viable to intentionally aim for unprotected areas on an armored attacker (head, pelvis)? Is volume of fire with a sidearm a viable tactic? Is it better to rush, move laterally, retreat? Mindset for engaging these kinds of encounters, with the understanding that any tactic is likely to be a losing proposition?

Looks like having a laser might have made the first few shots (before a good sight picture could be acquired) more effective. Just sayin'.

I’m a big fan of James Yeager’s method of practicing drawing and moving laterally simultaneously, and seems like it worked better here too. I also try to practice yelling a simple command (like “stop!”) while drawing as well to make it easier to do in real life.

In this, in my opinion, unrealistic scenario, you may as well say a really quick prayer. You're dead. But even bad guys don't just unload like that. They're not expecting much resistance from somebody just walking down the street. They might pull a gun on you to make sure you comply, but they're first move isn't going to be murder generally. What I think would be interesting to see is if there is a way to pull your gun when someone is holding a gun on you at close range and demanding your wallet, a much more likely scenario. If you had a gun in your pocket, you could pretend to be reaching for your wallet and catch him by surprise. But then you have to ask yourself, are the odds of my survival better if I try something like that or if I just let him take my wallet, tough decision.

a surrepetitious draw is more important than a fast draw

Role playing is essential. My Federal Agency (now retired) did these at least annually. Also, many of the comments are good and show experience.

Let's face it, criminals are ambush predators. With or without situational awareness we are already at a disadvantage. Being able to draw and shoot fast and accurately is all well and good if you can do so while getting to cover and being able to hit your target. Just remember every bullet has a lawyer attached to it. You are responsible for every round that leaves your gun. Be safe and train, train, train.

draw and drop to the ground!

This is and 👁 opener

I've been in situations where you find yourself in a bad neighborhood or unknown area that has potential hostiles. I was always at the ready, not holstered, but somewhat concealed. As long as you are not "brandishing" a firearm there is no law that says you cannot be at the ready when one perceives a dangerous situation may be in the offing.

TOP Thx

It works for me with my airsoft AR 15. Grab the fresh mag and hit the mag release with your right hand thumb with the fresh magazine at the same time strip down with fresh mag against the old mag then all at once insert fresh mag to mag well. Hit bolt release and continue to shoot

Well First Off Should Be Next Open Carry Force On Force.

Keep up the good work…

I'd love to see first person view videos to go over situational awarness from different perspectives. There is little to nothing on that topic while at least it's mentioned how important it is. That'd be the main factor and that would be also cool training without knowing the exact situation beforehand. In this video the biggest issue was the draw. The holster or the combo with the clothing got in the way. Distance is one's friend even when there is no cover. Lots of stats that survivability increases dramatically for leos cause most attackers aren't good shots.

Useful details 😁

I watched the video it was very nice I think the best way is to move to the nearest cover than reengage but what will happen if I don't have cover near me for example am just walking in the football field or am walking in the Sahara desert environment so is something to be considered I got an idea that could be apply. Ali from Nigeria

Show at a gas pump drawing from concealed while bad guy is trying to take your car or rob you

Love these force on force with sims! And Tosh, if you’re reading these, is there any chance you could tell us what happened to your left hand if you don’t mind. I’m also intrigued by the hook attachment… Is it your own custom creation to work better with your tools? (Again, no pressure to answer, but we’ve been watching you for a while now and can’t help but wonder.)

Wait how long ago was part 1 posted? Was it posted?

Why continue walking towards an active agressor?

I feel like the threat wouldn’t fire as soon as he presents his weapon. I think the weapon pull would be followed with a request, unless it were a home invasion situation where the were hunting you specifically

If you have never actually practiced force on force scenarios, with someone literally firing at you, don’t critique what happened for a second! Just sit back down, shut up, and observe. Thank you in advance for your cooperation.

Wheres the sniper stalk video??

what pistols are you using

any tips for someone that is in a wheelchair

Hi Folks, Here's deal. Why do we do force on force? Its the point where our omnipresent situational awareness fails. Nobody walks around perfectly aware 100% of the time. If you did you could leave the gun at home. The truth is most of us are thinking about other shit, family problems, car troubles, your boss is a woke asshole who wants a special pronoun and is offended by your toxic masculinity etc..... We train this way for when we have failed our selves and to be able to get back up on step with the situation at hand. Train for the difficult problems not the easy ones. So yes we slant all our situations in favor to the opposition. The scenarios aren't built for you to win but to learn how to assess, move, communicate and shoot under stress. No matter how many scenarios we do, the one you get it in is the one we miss. Remember not all good tactics work and just because you got away with it doesn't mean it's a good tactic. Thanks guys

A reload idea for lefty's. Grab a fresh magazine and grip old one then strip with new magazine and then insert new magazine to mag well. Hit the bolt catch on the left side of the gun. Or if you've got a bolt release on the right side then hit that with your thumb.

Myles take off that huge head gear and let your muscle memory do its job. Remember as soon as he's moving his hand towards his side or backside. You can say there's no reason for this. In a firm, but Calm way. So please stop, at the same time. You should have already went from Yellow to Orange and 100% ready for Red. Almost 100% of all the failures are created by Not watching their hands and foot work. If I'm going to go hand to hand, south paw my right foot will be in the first position. So when I Strike down my vengeance upon thee. They'll receive the rumbling as God has moving clouds and shaking the earth with my right-hand being thunder, than my left-hand lighting between their ear and right eye, the sweet tomatoe spot. To fight you've got to have anger or fear. Tobe a great fighter you've got love to dance and fight with compassion "Muhammad Ali" All boxers, quarter backs, pitchers, gun slingers, everyone, myself included all do the same thing. Watch their opponents hands and feet!!... The moral to my story is. Watch your tell signs and take appropriate actions!!... Widowmaker a man of God. "E Pluribus Unum" D'n Deus Le' Vult!!...

Haha 😂 that was horrible man!!! These can be fun and very informative but if you’ve got ANY experience with carrying a gun daily you know if your in a situation like this you already messed up BAD, WAY before this Lol until you do a REAL WORLD scenario this is just playing around. I’ll patiently wait to see what all you cover but I’ve got a few suggestions. If your new to guns these are amazing, I wish I had these 10 years ago!!

Force on force while pumping gas or while at an ATM machine. I tell my family to stay close to the machine and, turn the wheel to the left. Left foot on the brake, right over the fuel. Setting up to pin the attacker between the building and car, that pain should slow or stop them.

so basically... self defense is difficult

Myles isn’t doing so well… This is good information, BUT we really need to know what to do, more input Toshiba please! I notice that there hasn’t been any follow up videos on this topic since April…I’d like to see more from Tosh. I train a Church Security Team and this is beneficial information to augment our training with.

Don’t keep walking towards the guy.

Most thugs work in groups these days, usually their pistol skills are horrible, thrusting handgun in victims face with one hand as a intimidating tool of unsuspecting people in transitional places ie...in an out of parking lots, home invasions, convenient stores, ATM, stop lights. Interesting stuff though.

Vehicle vehicle vehicle scenarios please vehicle scenarios