Melbourne's Newest Station // Pakenham Goes East!

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Melbourne's Newest Station // Pakenham Goes East!

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A look at the brand new East Pakenham station, opened in June 2024 as a small extension of Melbourne's Pakenham suburban railway line.
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All photographs, video and diagrams used in this video are by Martin Bennet (me).
My voiceover in this video was recorded with the assistance of my brother Cian, who happens to be a sound recordist and musician. Check out his music here: hyperfollow.co...
Chapters:
00:00 - It's Pakenham, but East
01:36 - The problem with Old Pakenham
03:14 - Operationally Convenient East Pakenham
06:36 - But not the East Pakenham Line?
07:34 - A look at the station
08:56 - New Regular Pakenham
09:25 - East Pakenham Future prospects
#melbourne #trains #railways #transport

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@longdongjohn6588 2 ай бұрын

0:57 I've always wanted to catch a train to a place where I can learn how to pole dance with a gun to the tune of one of Steve's car alarms!

@JusGiveMeMyMoney Ай бұрын

It’s like music to my ears!

@joshanderson9391 2 ай бұрын

A rare case of building the infrastructure before thousands of people have moved into the area. Good to see the futureproofing in the design as well. Thanks for the video!

@Skasaha_ 2 ай бұрын

If only the RRL got the same treatment... it was 10-15 years late, and now without electrification is woefully under equipped for the job.

@winnerwinnerporkbellydinner 2 ай бұрын

I know it won't happen, but it would be even better future-proofing if they could try their hand at some denser developments around the station

@thunderturbine8860 2 ай бұрын

@@winnerwinnerporkbellydinner I sure wish that many lines got the same treatment I.e The Airport lines, The Mernda line extension, Hurstbridge line extension, Frankston line extension up to Baxter (Then reactivating the Mornington line) etc

@simonnaughton2272 2 ай бұрын

Let be happy they are extending the network. Even if it is only 1800m at a time.

@acesretroonline 2 ай бұрын

It would be cool to see a skyrail station at Mornington. Even one under the plaza like at Box Hill. Massive ask there, but since they've found the money to put all these other stations on their own bridges, not too big a deal.

@Rheilffordd 2 ай бұрын

I’ve ignored everyone else’s clickbaity hastily rushed videos on Pakenham East, and quietly hoped you’d make one…. thankfully you delivered 🤗

@emdB67 2 ай бұрын

I might have mine ready in 26 years time. I'd intended to head over there today, but my plans changed. :)

@JackStavris 2 ай бұрын

As a commuter on the Gippsland line (for now), the new track layout as East Pakenham is very much welcome. There's been many times, especially since the sidings were ripped up at Pakenham to make way for the skyrail, that we've had to wait several minutes while both platforms are occupied at Pakenham before we can stop there. The Gippsland line is already a long-ish commute into the city from where I get on at Warragul so if this can speed travel time up a bit, I'll be happy with it. I haven't had a chance to visit East Pakenham or the new Pakenham stations yet as V/Line services aren't running yet due to other occupation works at Longwarry & Bunyip, but once our trains are back online I'll be sure to check each one out.

@robertashworth9150 2 ай бұрын

V/Line needs to rethink the way it services the Gippsland line - it still runs trains like it was 1880 with most trains terminating at Traralgon, a stopping all stations pattern and apparently no thought at all about how to handle the huge growth in Drouin & Warragul. I think a reasonable portion of trains should originate at Warragul and most Traralgon trains should run semi express, with Warragul trains handling the very limited pax numbers between Pakenham and Drouin. I can't see any reason why an up peak service from Traralgon needs to stop at any of those very small towns - from what I see virtually no one alights there.

@Daviesh 2 ай бұрын

@@robertashworth9150 Completely agree, I did a year of commuting from Sale a couple of times a week. I had to drive to Traralgon to get decent service frequency and then the train would get ram packed at Drouin/Warragul. I’m in the Metro footprint now but have family in Drouin, I don’t then the State government has had any thought about how to handle the explosive growth. Peak services originating/terminating at Warragul are needed.

@ma3stro681 2 ай бұрын

@@robertashworth9150 Also there are no food services on this line like there was in the past. It’s ludicrous to expect commuters to travel from Bairnsdale to Melbourne with no onboard refreshments. Lift your game, VLine …

@PJRayment 2 ай бұрын

@@robertashworth9150 "... it still runs trains like it was 1880 with most trains terminating at Traralgon ..." I'd be very surprised if most trains were terminating at Traralgon in 1880. The goal of the Department of Transport seems to be to increase frequencies, reliability, and consistency, not speed. If you have a mix of stopping and express services, then you either double the number of services (costly) or you reduce frequencies for some stations, and you have inconsistent times due to express trains and stopping trains having different journey times. I'm not saying whether that's a good or bad thing; just pointing out what seems to be the intentions. It's not all that many years since there were Warragul trains, and there may be merit in reintroducing them, but they'd likely be just a handful of peak period trains to supplement the Traralgon service.

@OfficalMelbourneGreenQuad 2 ай бұрын

The Broadmeadow runway reference 💀

@TurquoisechannelshortsYT 2 ай бұрын

Fr lol 😂

@TheMatsushitaMan 2 ай бұрын

LMAO i was dying

@helicoptermn1463 2 ай бұрын

Train: I WANT TO GET AWAY FROM THIS DRIVER ITS MY CHANCE! Driver: WHAT THE HELL? Trains at North Melbourne: WHAT ARE YOU DOING? train: IM RUNNING AWAY Train at southern cross: WHAT IS THAT? Train: AGHHHHH I CANT STOP crashes*

@kimfamily6119 2 ай бұрын

Lol imagine if there is another runaway 😂

@helicoptermn1463 2 ай бұрын

@@kimfamily6119 if I was on it I would go into the cab and spam the Horn until people get mad 😂

@itsthegrumpyparrot 2 ай бұрын

Lmao I love Tait's sense of humor! 2:04

@TransportEnthusiastAus 2 ай бұрын

Extending the dead end siding😂😂

@rtmpgt 2 ай бұрын

We had the same thing happen to us Perthlings when the Joondalup line got extended to Clarkson. It still retained the Joondalup name after its completion. It’s now getting renamed to the Yanchep line as Yanchep in the outer limits of the Perth Metro area to the north. It means as well that the train trip between Yanchep and Mandurah will be 150km in overall length!

@TransportofPerth 2 ай бұрын

Uhh, Yanchep is 55km and Mandurah is 70. That's only 125.

@robvegas9354 2 ай бұрын

Clarkson station always reminded me of the old top gear and grand tour episodes when James May and Richard would get cross at Jeremy Clarkson for his pranks and mischief and they would yell at him "CLARKSON!!!!"

@comeng540M 2 ай бұрын

Interesting that only the Siemens got change for intersection change here announcement as both the EDI comeng and Xtrapolis on Frankston side at Caulfield still announcing "change here for Pakenham and Cranbourne services. And yes E Pakenham look very goofy, got a laugh out of me when I was visiting on the first day of opening. Also love the reference to the runaway Comeng from your broadmeadows runaways video. RIP 393M-1048T-394M

@Taitset 2 ай бұрын

I wonder if the Siemens announcements might have been changed first, will be interesting to see if the others follow suit!

@bradwconnors 2 ай бұрын

My sense regarding the line name is that once the Metro Tunnel opens the line will have a new name that covers one end to the other.

@smitajky 2 ай бұрын

When I was young my grandfather was the station master at Nar Nar Goon (East of Pakenham). I can remember the endless flashes of the trees which arched over the highway. It was WAY out into the country. And was served by steam trains. Then they wanted to electrify the line and duplicate it so they had to demolish the stationmaster's residence and that was the end for Nar Nar Goon. It is interesting that the new station is mid way between the two. But the obvious logic is that they wanted somewhere WITHOUT the contstraints of housing. The trouble is that if you put a station where the people are NOT and BECAUSE the people are not there you have created a different future problem.

@Darththorn 2 ай бұрын

Coach replacement services on the Gippsland line give me PTSD.

@larsalvik93 2 ай бұрын

"tie a herd of elephants to"? I thought rhinos was the official PTV comparison animal?

@prodigalretrod 2 ай бұрын

The elephant is broad gauge, whereas Australian rhinos are generally standard gauge.

@wiznendo 2 ай бұрын

Rhinos are for trams, trains use elephants

@arkie14 2 ай бұрын

@@wiznendo Yeah, especially when you have short "trunk" lines ;) hehehe.

@CoffeeOnRails 2 ай бұрын

Your roof comment is so true for most of Network Rails last 10-15 years of architectural language. Let’s build a roof that does sweet fa in protecting passengers from the sun, rain, wind etc. Look up Corby for the older design and Meridian Water or Brent Cross West for the new design. They suck. BCW looks architecturally cool tho.

@Joseph-vf5yq 2 ай бұрын

I was at Pakenham shortly before the station was closed and some people set the toilets on fire.

@PJRayment 2 ай бұрын

The men's toilet looked okay to me on the last day.

@Phantomthecat 2 ай бұрын

Does anyone else remember when the line Pakenham line was electrified all the way to Traralgon? I remember as a kid catching a Hitachi from Morwell as part of a School trip which was booked as a special train and that's what they sent - the Teachers had to stop the train at Warragul because so many kids needed to go to the toilet and there were none aboard. Fun times.

@michaeldelarue2778 Ай бұрын

Thanks for the mention, the team at Steves car alarms. Cheers

@GreatAussieDrives 2 ай бұрын

Fantastic video mate! Very informational, suddenly this short one station extension makes a whole lot more sense.

@krissp8712 2 ай бұрын

Yeah, the track diagram was awesome!

@AtreidaeChibiko 2 ай бұрын

My grandparents have one of the properties above Pakenham East station. A section of their property was picked up but the govt. Unfortunatley it was handled rather poorly (they found out in the media) This is the best explanation as to WHY it needed to be built where it is.

@solace6633 Ай бұрын

Nah its actually all due to need to bidirectional running as Vline route isn't actually all duplicated yet so trains can come in on both sides prior to Pakenham Station. You also have the times they run to just Pakenham as well, when works happens. It was just a very convenient way to build the extra infrastructure while eventually getting a return on it, as the town grows.

@user-zv1kv6zh2m 2 ай бұрын

Regarding the name of the line I beg to differ that we haven't been in this situation before. In 1948, the Ashburton line was extended to Alamein and renamed the Alamein line.

@Taitset 2 ай бұрын

Good point, I knew there would be another example! Although it's still a little different, in that the new station had a name that wasn''t the suburb, rather than being South Ashburton or something.

@crazyd4371 2 ай бұрын

"Architecturally Stunning Pebble Mix Buildings" ... LOL

@FromtheWindowSeat 2 ай бұрын

Even though there are quite a few videos about East Pakenham already, this certainly offered additional information and insights. Great stuff! 👌

@damocooper4177 2 ай бұрын

Good video. Answering a couple of points. HCMT trains show E Pakenham because East Pakenham doesn't fit and would result in the front of the train simply showing "East". Comeng and Siemens trains show East Pakenham in full. The change trains announcements aren't incorrect as they refer to destinations of services, not line names. As you said, the line is the Pakenham line.

@Taitset 2 ай бұрын

Thanks Damo! I did think that was probably the reason for the change train announcements, I'd still say it's an inconsistency though, as for all the other lines the final terminus and line name are the same. (Not as bad as the old Sydneham/Watergardens thing mind you!)

@slambotv1334 2 ай бұрын

7:08 Another inconsistency is that on the Siemens and Comeng it says East Pakenham, but on the X’Trap to Richmond it seems to still just say Pakenham

@Izib954 2 ай бұрын

3:03 - "It's also no longer permitted to install sets of points on Viaducts" That's interesting, what's the story behind that? I presume it's a Victorian railway rule because WA is building points on viaducts right now with their own extensions, including replacing an old ground level terminus with an elevated through station at Armadale (WA) similar to Pakenham. That station will have 3 platforms and will not only have points and crossovers on a viaduct, but will also elevated dead-end overrun sidings/future track expansion points that just stop at a void.

@Taitset 2 ай бұрын

Yes definitely a local rule, I'm not sure what the exact reasoning is, but probably something about reducing the (already tiny) risk of derailment on a viaduct.

@user-wy4ci7yj6b 2 ай бұрын

I think also a factor would be the method the LXRA has developed to streamline the construction of the many new viaducts around Melbourne. Lines enclosed in seperate channels would not allow for the instalation of points.

@peejay1981 2 ай бұрын

Victorian railways seem to be unnecessarily conservative. Likely a good thing given how incompetent they are.

@Gauger1212 2 ай бұрын

What about the LXRP at Melton? Doesn't the design there have points on a viaduct?

@Taitset 2 ай бұрын

@Gauger1212 From what I can see the points are all on embankments, the plan isn't super clear though.

@dailylife100 2 ай бұрын

FYI some insider knowledge... Two of the signal gantries in the new East Pakenham area are re-used from near the old Pakenham Station. Taken down in the first stage when they removed the Pakenham sidings.

@Taitset 2 ай бұрын

Ah interesting!

@konigsberghq2279 2 ай бұрын

Ello from the other side of the continent. Seems to me that the Packenham Line is following the same naming conventions as Perth's Joondalup Line. Officially, it's the Yanchep Line, but everyone still calls it the Joondalup line even though its terminus is now 30km north of Joondalup. Cool video!

@TransportEnthusiastAus 2 ай бұрын

In 2011, a siemens nexas train made a REALLY good job at trying to extend the dead end siding😂😂😂

@richardleonard2946 Ай бұрын

The Seimens trains had their brakes issues in 2007-ish. Was this the same problem reappearing or was something else? I understood that was a software bug. Driver applies brakes, computer says "Nah, you don't need the brakes, I'll just ease them off a bit... or a lot!".

@werwtty-in1qg 16 күн бұрын

I really like this station it’s very peaceful and it’s cool when the vline trains run express through the station also go here in the afternoon it’s lovely and the best part your the only person to get off

@jatkin1720 2 ай бұрын

The paddocks to the north east of the station are planned for a bunch of new subdivisions and will probably be full within the next 5-10 years, hence the main focus being on the northern side of the station. I believe the small industrial estate to the south is also fairly new

@davidbernard7256 2 ай бұрын

Should call it Pakenham East! Great video.

@speedmastermarkiii 2 ай бұрын

First time I ever traveled on this line was on June 10. I needed to get to Narre Warren station in order to pick up a click and collect from a shop at Westfield Fountain Gate. At Flinders Street Station I found out there was an overhead electrical fault that meant no trains between Dandenong and East Pakenham for the entire day, which meant bus replacements at short notice on a public holiday. Sigh...

@OfficalMelbourneGreenQuad Ай бұрын

Sad, that explains that replacement

@rodreed5147 2 ай бұрын

Great video, I travelled into the CBD each day in the first week of E Pakenham and there was barely 25-30 cars in the carpark each morning. Very convienient for me!

@FrostyFrostySnow 2 ай бұрын

I noticed the new station appearing on display boards today and it definitely seemed to come out of nowhere. Glad you're here to fill in the gaps

@Lazay-di7gw 2 ай бұрын

Another Banger Video

@aph1555 2 ай бұрын

Pakenham line is in shambles.. It needs four tracks from Dandenong to Caulfield

@pete89111 2 ай бұрын

3 is the bare minimum. Insane there's only 2 when it's all shared by Pakenham, Cranbourne and Gippsland lines. Trains constantly need to wait behind other trains

@aussiejjdude3066 2 ай бұрын

I was always surprised that quad track didn't occur, and allow for the v/line to run express, and potentially the Pakenham to run express up to Dandenong with the Cranbourne to be a local commuter.

@solace6633 Ай бұрын

@@pete89111 Space is the main reason behind it. They just don't have enough space to increase the amount of lines and going underground would be basically impossible due to many different utility mains. Cranbourne and Pakenham are actually shared with short shunt trains ran when extra capacity is needed.

@paulorocky Ай бұрын

I suspect V/Line services will eventually terminate at Dandenong and city passengers will have to transfer to a Metro service. Inconvenient, sure, but after the Metro Tunnel comes online there will be much greater service capacity, hopefully ensuring reduced crowding especially for V/Line passengers who might have luggage. Alternatively, through running could be retained for Bairnsdale services, as presumably those services are more likely to have passengers with large bags compared to services to and from Traralgon. The ultimate would be to construct an eastern RRL, but can’t see that happening anytime soon.

@TeamEXAngus 2 ай бұрын

8:50 I assume that the shared use path will connect through to Pakenhan station once works wrap up

@Damonicus1 2 ай бұрын

In relation to the bus services coming from East Pakenham station, that is currently before PTV and the government. I can't remember when they said it would be set in place, but the bus services around Pakenham haven't changed in the 10 year I've been here.

@ComengProductions 2 ай бұрын

Fantastic video mate! I’m sure we can find somewhere for the elephants just in case. Love the Broadmeadows runaway reference. Keep up the great work.

@michaelformaini7053 2 ай бұрын

Well presented, Martin. You apparently did the Biblical thing and "prepared the way" for my visit on the same day as I was there around the 13 00 - 14 00 mark having a general snoop. It was good to catch up with you (and Alex J.) ever so briefly at Flinders Street on Saturday 1st June during the Tait train pause prior to going out to Hurstbridge. I took your hint and went to Clifton Hill on that Mernda service and got a good photo of the Tait approaching Ramsden Street crossing. Thanks for the tip. Cheers from Michael.🙂🙂🙂

@jenfree2241 2 ай бұрын

08:55 your addition is brilliant!

@GMRyan13 Ай бұрын

An excellent video, well done. Your professional production, script writing and voiceover skills are excellent. Thank you.

@mattaustin2128 2 ай бұрын

Fascinating, thanks Martin.

@DanielDiaz-um1xd 2 ай бұрын

I visited today, the HCMT having maps finishing at Pakenham amused me

@nikgreen6466 2 ай бұрын

I think I was there about an hour before you - this was the day trains were running express through Melbourne Central due to a water leak and I think this was messing up the stopping patterns as they would basically be having to guess if the station would be open by the time the train got there. Explains the weirdness at 8:40 somewhat.

@capability-snob Ай бұрын

This would have cut my walk to the station from 19 minutes to about 3. So jealous!

@Pakenham_Rail_Fan 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for uploading this Taitset! :)

@iamthinking2252_ 2 ай бұрын

I’ve always wondered why they couldn’t just build an extra set of tracks at Pakenham, and I’m glad this conveniently explains why!

@mattradin7252 2 ай бұрын

I enjoy the phrase "creative changes" as a description of crashed through buffers :D Also the X'traps animated looked like slow little caterpillars which is hilarious

@Un_Altra_Persona 2 ай бұрын

Very nicely done. Your videos make the bleak concrete of the new stations much more bearable

@grossn123 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video! Noticed the extra station on the way home from the footy today and wondered when it started up!

@LCMTrain 2 ай бұрын

thank you for always making quality and informative videos

@Comeng17 2 ай бұрын

You released this very quickly, well done!

@YukeWeiss 2 ай бұрын

Love watching Taitset videos on a train. I was so confused by this but glad to get the skinny from a great creator :)

@chrismapstone9717 2 ай бұрын

I always wanted a train to Pakenham Upper. ... only so you could hear the announcement.

@yassirdarge6360 2 ай бұрын

i watched both strayatrains and yours on the new pakenham east train station and wow !!!!!! i mean i love straytrains but this vid was just so informative and i love the way you articulate your videos in such a professional manner. well done mate 👍🏽👍🏽 great work

@pierreinthavong181 2 ай бұрын

Really nice video!😁👍

@caramelldansen2204 2 ай бұрын

Liverpool (in England!) has had a similar problem with its Central station and has been debating doing something like this for years! Of course, Liverpool is the posterchild of Managed Decline, so our railways get less than the bare minimum.

@1994ToyotaCamryEnjoyer 2 ай бұрын

Another excellent video. Great work Martin!

@HawkerMatt 2 ай бұрын

I was at Pakenham on Saturday when it was raining slightly throughout the day, the station did an alright job at protecting us from it, but the rain was coming in at an angle so the roof kind of did nothing. One thing to note about the car park at East Pakenham, the little kiss and go loop they have at the end is slightly confusing as every single car I saw overshot the entrance to the car park, not realising it was the last one, then had to run around the loop to head back into the car park. Hopefully they will get some bus routes at East Pakenham as the current ones running out of Pakenham don't run at the best frequencies and stop quite early on in the evening and barely run, if at all on a Sunday.

@ChrisGuiver 2 ай бұрын

Great video; thanks mate. Very informative, very funny/droll too. Well done.

@henrytoussaint7 2 ай бұрын

This is great. Fingers crossed they do the same for the Cranbourne line by extending it to Cranbourne East and Clyde!

@Myne1001 2 ай бұрын

Well damn, future proofing public transit? I didn't know it was possible for a government to do that.

@aiden-wb2nu 2 ай бұрын

Great video! You put tons of effort into it. Keep up the great work!

@michaelpowell6023 2 ай бұрын

great video. All I can say, is very little because I work as sub contractor. But will back in this area in next day or two. Keep up the great videos.

@therealsammyvee888 2 ай бұрын

Awesome video as always. Nice to see an overview of the new station(s) and line extension. I was there and at the regular Pakenham station on Friday of the opening week (June 7) and I think they were both quite interesting. Should be good to see them both when they're fully complete. I'm also wondering if trains will be able to stable (lol) in the sidings here like at the end of most other lines, or if they'll have to use Pakenham East Depot instead.

@Taitset 2 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! None of the sidings are long enough to fit a full train, so all the stabling will happen out at the depot.

@therealsammyvee888 2 ай бұрын

@@Taitset Ok, I thought so. Thanks.

@marko.cakarevic 2 ай бұрын

The new Ridgelea estate will be going up east of East Pakenham station. It's slated to have about 3000 homes so I'd imagine the station will become pretty busy once all that is finished over the coming decade.

@bsbowring 2 ай бұрын

Really looking forward to the next suburban station on the line: "East of East Pakenham (West of Pakenham East)"

@garydunken7934 2 ай бұрын

Well researched and produced with humour

@ArmorCast 2 ай бұрын

60km away? That seems nuts for a "commuter" line... and I thought our 42km long Gawler line was a bit much! Great video mate, good little overview. Say, you planning a trip over to Adelaide any time soon?

@Taitset 2 ай бұрын

Fortunately the average speed on the Pakenham line is pretty high, it only takes roughly 10 mins longer than a full trip on the Gawler line! I hoping to make it to Adelaide at some point this year.

@outrun3488 2 ай бұрын

I frequent deep Creek reseve Park witch is near the pakenham east station, and train mauy thai in the industrial estate. It's good to know there is a service that runs out that way. I would have never known growing up in pakenham. In my 32 years here that we would have a pakenham East Station. I remember it was a small car park with gravel where the park is, and just paddocks. I'll say thoe. I'm not a fan of the New pakenham station. It's a massive wind tunnel at the moment, and there are no indoor sitting areas. Hopefully, it's changed.

@masinat4322 2 ай бұрын

The canopies at Pakenham are quite big, they both look like a platform 3 and 4 could fit underneath them.

@jack2453 2 ай бұрын

I heard there is a very popular pub there, the Pakenham Inn.

@SirMint-yi9zc 2 ай бұрын

Actually you know what would be a cool video. If you did a time line video of each train station opening video. And maybe future ones, I would love that

@MetroStudios 2 ай бұрын

Tait set uploaded!!!!!!

@Joshontherails 2 ай бұрын

yayyyyy

@RailTownProductions 2 ай бұрын

This is a great example. The Springfield Line is a great example of a line's final Station doesn't always make the line name.

@WildWillex 2 ай бұрын

Almost went to those two stations the same day but decided against it due to the weather, was quite chilly as well. Got to see pakenham the day after (I swear those stairs were gonna collapse bellow me) but I’m yet to see east pakenham

@justinwright4833 2 ай бұрын

Excellent and informative as always

@danielmolino661 2 ай бұрын

You went there one day too early. I sat at the station for 3 hours on the following day watching some of the Vline test runs going through and got some nice shots of Vlines passing HCMTs terminating.

@Taitset 2 ай бұрын

Yes I know, it was the only day I had free unfortunately!

@aiden-wb2nu 2 ай бұрын

Taitset, are you going to do a video where you do a kahoot about Melbourne transport with other youtubers that make Melbourne transport videos?

@rod.h8064 2 ай бұрын

There is the 929 bus that runs by closish Coles to the main Pakenham station, maybe they'll add or shift it to East Pakenham at some point

@axan50transportproductions 2 ай бұрын

Its been a while since the last video but it was worth the wait

@gandalfthecreator 2 ай бұрын

Any chance of a video on the port dock extension once it's completed?

@Taitset 2 ай бұрын

It's certainly one I would like to do!

@aussietaipan8700 2 ай бұрын

I'm not looking forward when the Cranbourne/Pakenham lines don't go through Sth Yarra, I've already advised my boss that if the weather is crap, I'm not going to wait at Caufield for the Frankston line. I will WFH. Great video and info in the new stations mate.

@nathandunnn 2 ай бұрын

Loved the quick reference to the idiotic shelters at Monty. Only been there once or twice since it opened so I haven't wet weather tested it, but basic physics says that high angled shelters are a terrible idea when all people want is to not be wet.

@Taitset 2 ай бұрын

I've been there in the rain, and can confirm the shelters are basically useless!

@DouglasDC10.30 2 ай бұрын

The Broadmeadows reference at 5:57. 💀🤣 Also, how’s the Adelaide video going?

@Taitset 2 ай бұрын

It's happening pretty slowly, I do plan to get it finished off over the next few months though!

@1o1RedHead 2 ай бұрын

Can I just say, both Pakenham and East Pakenham come up on Google maps, as being in East Pakenham. However East Pakenham Station is even further east, than Pakenham station. This seems like it would be a big cause for confusion, due to the name.

@Alexander_Dunn 2 ай бұрын

Hi Martin. Alex here, the guy from West Richmond on the Mernda shuttles day. Excellent video, I think the reason why that siemens pid said “east pakenham services” because the services actually terminate there, it isn’t because the line is called the east pakenham line.

@Taitset 2 ай бұрын

Yeah I thought that was probably the reason, still an inconsistency though, as for every other line the final terminus and line name are the same thing.

@Alexander_Dunn 2 ай бұрын

@@Taitset yeah that is a very valid point.

@DaeZey 2 ай бұрын

Fun fact the "east Pakenham" suburb is looking at a name change because of a directive that says directional names are to be avoided. So maybe the Stations Name will also be updated and the flow though into a line name update. 🤷

@PJRayment 2 ай бұрын

I have wondered the same thing. They are looking only at women's names.

@bionicseaserpent 2 ай бұрын

now to extend the line to Nar Nar Goon in the next 30-50 or so years

@kings7man 2 ай бұрын

they used to run suburban trains to warragul

@Low760 2 ай бұрын

Hallam station etc don't have roofs at all. E Pakenham will just be handy for people in nearby suburbs such as koo wee rup.

@stackoftwigsshorts 2 ай бұрын

E Pakenham was used so it won’t have the scroll effect at the front of the train. Same for the side displays in the interior and exterior.

@Taitset 2 ай бұрын

And yet Flinders Street and Southern Cross are more characters, with a similar display length. It must only not fit by a tiny amount, and surely the font size is adjustable.

@Australialifevlogs 2 ай бұрын

nice one mate

@terencemccarthy8615 2 ай бұрын

Thankyou…beautifully explained…..new subscriber…

@ianmontgomery7534 2 ай бұрын

The reason for the different descriptions is that the trains are either express from Caulfield to South Yarra or express from Malvern to South Yarra so they need a different description. I don't about the third one as all stop at South Yarra.

@Taitset 2 ай бұрын

All four trains on that display are timetabled for the same pattern (express Malvern-South Yarra)

@ianmontgomery7534 2 ай бұрын

@@Taitset yes I saw that but I use the line infrequently but the one time I wanted to get off at Malvern the train was an Express from Caulfield so I changed at Caulfield to a train from Frankston.

@blahblah-yz5jh 2 ай бұрын

Good video. Nice to see a new clean station before the vandals tag it. How long will it stay that way?

@DanChan-qb2ec 2 ай бұрын

10:00 Why does the internal passenger information also use E Pakenham lol. I don't think they do that to Melbourne Central with Melbourne C or whatever lol

@itsnot35 2 ай бұрын

7:25 I have also noticed on some X-trapolis sets, that it displays as a "Flinders St" train instead of "Flinders Street" so thats another thing to point out that not all trains have entirety of the station name!

@Taitset 2 ай бұрын

Are you sure? I've never seen one do that.

@itsnot35 2 ай бұрын

@@Taitset yeah i have seen it a few times

@aussiegooner 2 ай бұрын

Didn't expect to see a couple of bulldogs fans as far east as Pakenham 2:55. Bloody respect.

@rod.h8064 2 ай бұрын

Footsgrey housing prices have forced them out there

@JDTrain 2 ай бұрын

You definitely have a way of saying some things. Great video. BTW, why have you stopped putting photos in Railway Digest? I looked through all the copies I have and I didn't see any past July 2022 or some time around there.

@Taitset 2 ай бұрын

It can be pretty time consuming submitting stuff to magazines, I've sort of let it drop off for the moment, but it's certainly something I'd like to come back to again in the future!

@user-ic6gm1ww1w 2 ай бұрын

The use of Normal vs. East doesn't seem unusual to me, trains report the station they will be terminating at, not the end of line station. It does sound like the change line announcement got mixed, maybe. And we sort of have been here before, with the Werribee Racecourse Station, the line's been called Werribee since the electrification, but electrification sort-of extended to the racecourse station

@Taitset 2 ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure Werribee Racecourse was never actually electrified, they put the poles up, which were never used.

@user-ic6gm1ww1w 2 ай бұрын

@@Taitset Wikipedia says they put the poles up, but only on one track and the track wasn't bi-directional, but in theory a train could have run there.

@Taitset 2 ай бұрын

It was poles only, no wires, so never possible for an electric train to visit under it's own power.