Take 2 of a 2014 NHL Redraft

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10 ай бұрын

I didn't initially have this on my list of redraft videos for this summer, but it is needed.
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@J_Aaron_L 10 ай бұрын

Shannon makes the offseason so much easier.

@connorkenney6938 10 ай бұрын

It’s how I stumbled upon him a long time ago.

@JoeMazzullaaa 10 ай бұрын

Shannon you should do a video comparing faceoff % in the juniors to the NHL, players like Bergeron, Crosby, Toews, O'Reilly, Giroux, Vermette, Kopitar, Datsyuk, Brind'Amour and Sakic. Seems like there’s a lot of talk about Bedard moving to the wings instead of playing center.

@jamison7417 10 ай бұрын

As a Wings fan I would love him here but that wont happen

@christhornycroft3686 10 ай бұрын

I think moving a young player to the wing, at least to start their NHL career, has more to do with the defensive end of things than faceoffs. A centre is responsible to be the forward who comes back on a play first. There are more responsibilities for a centre than just faceoffs. Depending on the player, it’s usually best to start them on the wing, let them get their feet wet and let them learn the 2 way game that is so important in modern hockey. Some players come in and have that end of things down already. Others take time. Everyone is different. Bedard might need a year on the wing. Maybe not.

@clandon9624 10 ай бұрын

@@christhornycroft3686dog, it’s the Chicago Blackhawks. Their defense concerns are non existant. They will be trying to lose again this season

@tricolore31 10 ай бұрын

@@jamison7417he meant playing on the LW or rw instead of center lol not the red wings

@iWhiteout 10 ай бұрын

@@tricolore31I think he was kidding when he said he’d loved bedard to go to Detroit lmao

@nolananderson4782 10 ай бұрын

This draft went turned out pretty good for the Kings. Ultimately got Kempe, Fiala, and Arvidsson. That's half of a top 6 there

@diggsfather 10 ай бұрын

fiala and arvidsson were traded in, but yes those are good players

@nolananderson4782 10 ай бұрын

@@diggsfather didn't mean we drafted them, but assembled a good haul of players from that draft

@TheGreyCrayon 10 ай бұрын

Indeed. I'd argue for Fiala to be higher, but I understand that he's had his slight injury problems holding him back. Obviously, Arviddson would be much higher if he wasn't injured for ¼ of every season he plays.

@MrSpeck321 10 ай бұрын

still cant beat the oilers tho

@TheGreyCrayon 10 ай бұрын

@@MrSpeck321 Oilers still can't win a Cup despite having the (Alleged) top 2 players in the league.

@Too-Odd 10 ай бұрын

Brayden Point was drafted by Tampa with Minnesota's 3rd round pick. To drop one spot, Minnesota received a 7th round pick in 2015. Tampa made out like bandits. Brayden Point was considered a late first round to mid second round prospect. Craig Button TSN had him at 17th overall. It was the Wild's folly.

@boltinabottle6307 10 ай бұрын

It's definitely helpful to have more Brayden Point than any other team.

@josiahharrison9843 10 ай бұрын

I mean every single team passed on Brayden Point multiple times. So it was everyone’s folly lol

@Too-Odd 10 ай бұрын

@@josiahharrison9843 Sure, but Point was by far the best value on the board at that time, and the chances of that 7th rounder being worth anything was almost nil.

@matthewjudge3763 10 ай бұрын

@@josiahharrison9843including Tampa

@jeffjagoda1614 10 ай бұрын

Let's be honest Shannon just chose Victor Olofsson for the Avs so that the announcers would be so confused with Victor Olofsson, Fredrik Olofsson and Oskar Olausson all on the same team. 🤣

@rickyhazel1030 10 ай бұрын

Sounds like something THG would do

@cranehook4715 10 ай бұрын

Just like Pettersson and Pederson on Vancouver for a stint? 😅

@aapokettunen8796 10 ай бұрын

@@cranehook4715Canucks have two Elias Pettersson's in the organisation right now.

@cranehook4715 10 ай бұрын

@aapokettunen8796 D Petey has yet to play, however, so no getting mixed up in which one they're talking about. Yet.

@jonfox4022 10 ай бұрын

pasta was a damn steal at 25

@MaverickWall238 10 ай бұрын

Such an underrated deep draft.

@bajjanitor 10 ай бұрын

Holy shit what a deep draft. You got to remember to pick Arvidsson in the 2011, 2012 and 2013 redrafts as well. ;)

@ntdman21 10 ай бұрын

Still funny how Florida ended up with Ekblad, Reinhart and Bennett

@TheScotian82 10 ай бұрын

..and theyd trade the trio ++ for Leon.

@Luk-ai 10 ай бұрын

@@TheScotian82Oilers would trade McDavid and Draisaitl just to lose in the finals tfym?

@jamiepike6909 10 ай бұрын

As an Islanders fan myself we moan about never have a first round pick. Look what we do when we have them😱🤣

@skiinggator 10 ай бұрын

Big time misses by Garth Snow, along with Griffin Reinhart in 2012

@atlasshrugged6435 10 ай бұрын

@@skiinggator He did turn Reinhart into BOTH Barzal and Beauvillier, so credit where credit is due. I get your point though.

@jamescarrello6710 10 ай бұрын

Yup. We screwed up big time in 2014. Probably would’ve won the cup in 2020 or 2021 if we drafted elite players in 2014. But hey, at least we hit in the later rounds.

@cranehook4715 10 ай бұрын

@atlasshrugged6435 He's lucky for it, he was willing to trade all 7 picks that year to move from 4 up to 2 to get Ryan Murray. I think they dodged an even bigger bullet in the long run.

@victorsforza5578 10 ай бұрын

@@atlasshrugged6435 yeah but I can't predict he would be able to flip griffin Reinhart for what they eventually did. Snow also passed up Roman josi and Jake guentzel in RD 2

@rickyhazel1030 10 ай бұрын

To be honest I think I'd have Fialla at 4,5 or 6 guys a point-per-game player and really an absolute beast just needs to stop taking dumb penalties other than that I wouldn't mind seeing a best players drafted in the late rnds (5th, 6th and 7th) from the last 10 years or so be interesting to see THG's opinion on who were the best players taken really late

@JohnnyBuschi 10 ай бұрын

The Isles getting a redo on Dal Colle and Ho-Sang would be amazing...

@skiinggator 10 ай бұрын

But still want Toews and Sorokin

@victorsforza5578 10 ай бұрын

Bingo. Left nylander fiala and Kempe on the board.

@TheDetonation 3 ай бұрын

So glad Larkin got so much love, I think he has been an incredible player stuck on a bad team most of his career.

@MrDrPatrick 10 ай бұрын

Fiala being behind Reinhart McCann and kempe is an absolute crime In my opinion. Still love the video though

@DarkLobster69 10 ай бұрын

Agreed, Fiala should probably have gone higher, and I also think Alex Tuch should be 3-4 spots higher

@MrDrPatrick 10 ай бұрын

@@DarkLobster69 yeah tuch should be higher too

@JustBrowsing777 10 ай бұрын

Now this is an interesting draft year in hindsight 😅

@JPS47 10 ай бұрын

The 2012 draft came to mind while watching those two draft ranking videos. A retake would be nice.

@cliftongamespoorly6333 10 ай бұрын

He did a 2012 redraft about 3 years ago if you didn't see it.

@clandon9624 10 ай бұрын

@@cliftongamespoorly6333you can also do that one yourself haha. Easiest redraft imo

@Tombauer97 10 ай бұрын

Kings have Kempe, Fiala and Arvidsson now lol

@TheGreyCrayon 10 ай бұрын

Funny how that works. GM Rob Blake finds a way. Most good GM's have too. David Poille had quite the steal drafting Arviddson and Fiala in that draft too. Shame that he couldn't find a way to keep those players.

@Ryan_Wayne 10 ай бұрын

You don't think there is any regret in Florida with drafting Ekblad? It's nothing against Ekblad, but I think Florida and also Buffalo passing on Draisaitl is a big dang-it for both of those franchises from today's point of view. And when you realize Buffalo also lost McDavid lottery... it's even worse than Ducks being second in Crosby and Bedard years.

@JarradBruessel32 10 ай бұрын

That's some major bias right there. Ekblad has been a very solid first pairing dman in the league. Just gets over looked due to playing for the panthers.

@legndery1909 10 ай бұрын

@@JarradBruessel32I agree but at the same time you could use another 100 point forward. Ekblad is still not worth the first overall in my opinion. His injuries + his critical mistakes on the ice keep draging him down compared to other defensive peers.

@TheScotian82 10 ай бұрын

imagine if they had Barkov Tkachuk and Draisaitl

@JarradBruessel32 10 ай бұрын

@@legndery1909 I mean if he was in say the 2012 draft I would say he is easily the number 1 overall pick so.

@legndery1909 10 ай бұрын

@@JarradBruessel32 I can argue drafting Forsberg over Ekblad but thats just speculation at this point.

@jaceking5938 10 ай бұрын

As a Kings fan, i love me some Adrian Kempe, but Fiala is a more dangerous forward

@tegridyfarmz 10 ай бұрын

Fiala should’ve gone 6-8 on this list lolll he’s so good

@TheGreyCrayon 10 ай бұрын

Kempe's speed, size, shot, and his defensive capabilities are impressive. Plus, him playing with a chip on his shoulder, and naturally with grit, he somehow manages to stay healthy. I think these qualities make him slightly more complete than Fiala. No disrespect to Fiala though. His puck protection and retrieval in close proximity are not to be trifled with. Plus, his edges and footwork allows the elusive factor to slither between opponents with ease. Oh, and not to mention his hands. They may not be as quick as Kempe's, but they make up for that by being soft and silky. All these skills makes him an amazing playmaking threat. He's also a smaller guy. Standing at 5'10". Compared to Kempe's 6'3". It's really hard for me too say who should've been place higher, but I will say, Fiala is more well rounded.

@Xstrangis 10 ай бұрын

Yo Shannon! Sorokin over shesterkin???? Need more of an explanation on that one!

@TheGreyCrayon 10 ай бұрын

I think he made a fair point. Shesterkin had an off year after a monster season. Although, that off year was still quite good and was even better when playoffs rolled around and he was the best player for the Rangers hands down. Sorokin has been more consistent in his entire career and has arguably had a tougher job due to the offense his team fails to provide. I personally would also take Sorokin on my team going into thos season, precisely because he's always been consistent.

@mercywilliams2698 10 ай бұрын

Excellent! So interesting. Thanks, Shannon!! 🥇

@FrankF.Y 10 ай бұрын

I remember that year in my keeper pool I had traded for the 2nd overall pick (was drafting last) and hoped to win the lottery but lost and went 3rd overall. 2 seasons later I knew that in fact I won it 😂

@CB-lh4ph 10 ай бұрын

id love videos of you comparing draft classes by total points/games played/other stats

@heldermoreira8554 10 ай бұрын

I've been wondering where Kempe would go in his draft and there you go, are you reeding my mind ?!...thanks a lot, come any time always welcome !!...

@Detector1977 10 ай бұрын

i'll never forget that insane contract Ekblad got out his elc... I'd agree with this redraft overall.

@tommihietanen2026 10 ай бұрын

I love to think about putting together an all star team using only one draft class. When I get the time I'm going to execute this idea on my NHL videogame. 2014 team has excellent goaltending and a highscoring forwards with great help from the well capable defense.

@holden9278 10 ай бұрын

Good list I'd have Fiala over McCann though cause Fiala is definitely better than McCann

@TheGreyCrayon 10 ай бұрын

Probably only did that because Fiala has had injury issues. I'd have placed Fiala at 7 or 8 though of it weren't for injuries.

@holden9278 10 ай бұрын

@nah6666 McCann has missed a lot of games in his career from injury too they've missed a similar amount of games in their career, but it could be why he's lower than he should be he's been over a point per game the last two seasons playing with Freddy Gaudreau as his center in Minnesota, and playing on the 3rd line half the season in LA which is crazy

@clandon9624 10 ай бұрын

@@holden9278yeah probably because McCann is one of if not The Guy in Seattle

@TheGreyCrayon 10 ай бұрын

@@holden9278 I respect THG's opinion, but I 100% would not trust McCann in Fiala's place in LA. Fiala drives play, and I believe McCann is largely supported by the terrifically well balanced Seattle squad he plays with.

@holden9278 10 ай бұрын

@nah6666 Same here lists like these come down to personal preference a lot of the time especially with draft classes this deep where a bunch of players are really good , and I think Fiala is one of the best passers and play driving wingers in the league he creates a lot of space for his linemates, and makes almost everyone he plays with better

@axe2grind244 10 ай бұрын

Al Tuch is a beast and is automatically your captain in Vancouver. That’s my pick at 6 100%.

@raradenims 10 ай бұрын

!!!!!

@alainsoucysergerie9879 3 ай бұрын

Sam Reinhart definitely watched that seven months ago.

@LatinxGoyslop1488 10 ай бұрын

What a monster of a draft!

@kevinwhite4488 10 ай бұрын

Devon Toews at 17 is low. He’s a top 15 defenseman in the league

@BandW1897 10 ай бұрын

Toews is awesome, much better than injury hurt Ekblad. Most underrated player on league. Also Montour last two seasons have been absolutely rocket, but that maybe isn't enough to put him over some other players.

@cranehook4715 10 ай бұрын

I'd put Toews anywhere from 7-9 on this board, possibly even 6, depending on how bad you were hurting for D at that point.

@TheScotian82 10 ай бұрын

I think youve got Montour and Barbashev low, and Reinhart a little high. What a draft class!

@thepokerlion 10 ай бұрын

It would be interesting to see rosters after all of Shannon's redrafts

@ccudmore 10 ай бұрын

So you're saying the draft is, for the most part, a crap shoot. Future NHL All-stars by round selected in 2014: 1st round - 6 2nd round - 1 3rd round - 2 4th round - 1

@adamzanna1151 10 ай бұрын

Both this and your previous video comparing number 2 draft picks from 2006-2021 makes me think that doing video about the best steals over a given period of time would be interesting.

@curtisk595 10 ай бұрын

Previously when you have done re-drafts you also had what # the player was originally drafted in ... I found that to be useful/ interesting information and hope you do that again in future re-drafts

@ayejayekaye4562 10 ай бұрын

crazy stacked draft actually

@InsignificantNick 10 ай бұрын

Never realized how stacked this draft was, especially with guys like Dal Colle, Virtanen, Fleury, Ritchie, Perlini, Honka, etc. who were all taken early and never lived up to their draft position.

@madmen2288 10 ай бұрын

That draft was stacked and the GM's and scouting was SHIIIT all over the league. loll

@jamescarrello6710 10 ай бұрын

As an Islanders fan, this draft hurts. A lot. It definitely set us back as a franchise. I think if we drafted better in 2014, having two successful first round picks, we’d have won at least 1 of the cups in 2020 or 2021.

@victorsforza5578 10 ай бұрын

And several other drafts the amount of talent snow left on the board is pretty staggering.. Kempe, josi, nylander,fiala a shyte ton of good/great players..

@DucksUpDogsDownCatsSlide 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the content.

@Whisky_4_1 10 ай бұрын

wow, what a stacked draft

@CurriedBat 10 ай бұрын

Wow, by getting rid of McCann Vancouver did even worse in this draft than I remember.

@larrygrassinger2819 10 ай бұрын

Just a suggestion, It would be interesting if you put actual draft number in brackets behind redraft position; e.g. Pasternak (25).

@xxxproxi 10 ай бұрын

wow this draft was DEEP

@mattk5221 10 ай бұрын

Also Montour going to Tampa gives me such pain as a Panthers fan

@goldenspatian517 6 ай бұрын

For the rangers not having a first round pick, we did pretty good

@fireaspectsythe5233 10 ай бұрын

what I think would be awesome if you made a board of all these redrafts as if the players were on the teams you picked SO Nylander to canucks Draisatl to Florida and just make a top 10 list for each teams possible captures

@ryanguzek361 10 ай бұрын

better than tv shows

@philtorrez4198 10 ай бұрын

Schmaltz is my boy, him and Keller are electric.

@Too-Odd 10 ай бұрын

Minnesota gave away Alex Tuch, so Vegas would not take Matt Dumba in the expansion draft. Vegas selected Erik Haula. Vegas also selected Teemu Pulkkinen from Arizona - a player Arizona claimed off waivers from Minnesota near the end of the season. If the Wild had retained Pulkkinen, they likely could have offered him instead of Tuch to bypass Dumba. Vegas fleeced the Wild big time, while the Wild mismanaged their roster.

@JarradBruessel32 10 ай бұрын

They couldn't retain pullkinen I don't think. They had to put him on waivers to make room for a guy returning from injury. Also Minnesota should have done the smart thing and let dumba go. He ended up being useless in the end. Never should have kept him.

@Too-Odd 10 ай бұрын

@@JarradBruessel32 Pulkkinen was waived instead of any other player that could have been waived. It was a choice. I agree with Dumba, and I said so at the time. He was being paid too much for his poor defensive play, and this was a chance to move his contract. In any case, he sure wasn't worth two players on the roster. Would anyone take Dumba over Tuch today? Not a chance.

@Spurgeon46 10 ай бұрын

Why in the world would Vegas select a waiver wire player over Tuch?

@Too-Odd 10 ай бұрын

@@Spurgeon46 They selected that waiver wire player over any other player from Arizona. You assume there would have been an option to select Tuch instead, which there would not have been in that scenario.

@Spurgeon46 10 ай бұрын

@@Too-Odd Because Arizona had absolutely no one worthwhile to select. Minnesota has been screwed by both of their expansion drafts because they’ve had deeper rosters. We’re just lucky that they took Tuch instead of Kaprizov like they were offered.

@influenza99 10 ай бұрын

Florida…. Daisaitl, Barkov, Tkuchuk. Wow

@lanemars 10 ай бұрын

Canucks traded mcann not happy Is a legendary video

@victorsforza5578 10 ай бұрын

Islanders blew a number of post John Tavares drafts including 2014. Passed over nylander, fiala for dal colle and took josh ho sang instead of Kempe

@stjn14 10 ай бұрын

Remember when the leafs had McCann and they didn't protect him in the expansion draft so they could keep justin holl and kerfoot lol so glad Dubas is gone.

@nomadicnovels 5 ай бұрын

watching this after bergeron and krejci’s retirement and wondering where boston would be without pasta 😬

@ugobouchard1 10 ай бұрын

Also 3 fowards from LA

@kyleanstey1244 10 ай бұрын

Im an Avs fan so I'm biased, but Toews outside that top 10 is criminal to me. Even Chelios mentioned him as one of the best and most underated Dmen on the league.

@XaviRonaldo0 10 ай бұрын

Definitely happy with Ehlers instead of Vrana who could create breakaways with his speed but never scored them. At least in his final couple of seasons. Whilst the teade hasn't really worked out I'm not sure we're missing anything not having Vrana

@Mahoneyyay 10 ай бұрын

Should do a video on the most accurate draft ever

@jayjopam8505 10 ай бұрын

Damn strong Keeper draft

@kennypacheco8203 10 ай бұрын

Fiala too low in my opinion

@BoyNamedSue4 10 ай бұрын

Looking at everyone the Ducks could have taken instead of Ritchie just makes the pick hurt even more.

@klompsauce 10 ай бұрын

Oh!

@navw21 10 ай бұрын

Three current top 6 forwards playing for my Kings are in your top 20 redraft. Way to go GMRB and GoKingsGo

@grantstew7318 10 ай бұрын

The pens passed on Pastrnak for Kapanen 😂

@scumbag210 10 ай бұрын

Personal thoughts: Biggest reach - Sam Bennett Biggest drop - Tony DeAngelo Highest on THG's list not on mine - Victor Olofsson Highest on my list not on THG's - Tony DeAngelo

@lenkennedy9214 10 ай бұрын

I think Shesterkin should be above Sarokin. The Islanders are a more defensive team and make the goalie's job easier. Shesterkin's super season was legendary. I'd put him a 2 or 3. Draisaitl #1 for sure.

@jonmendelson1104 10 ай бұрын

25:27 Ironically Marcus Pettersson has been mentioned as a player the Sharks are targeting in the Karlsson trade, though allegedly Pittsburgh doesn't want to give him up.

@sheldoncedwardthibault3599 10 ай бұрын

Do a Redraft of the 1970 NHL Draft?!

@TrenurSports 10 ай бұрын

Ive made a video on Sorokin vs Igor and I've looked at all the stats and watched them both play over the past few years I really don't see how people give Sorokin the edge over Igor

@beerleaguehero 10 ай бұрын

From what I remember Chiarelli only drafted David Pastrnak because the Habs wanted him.

@Nikkerman 10 ай бұрын

Also Sonny Milano and D'Angelo would be my 31 & 32 if that had existed back then

@Flash___ 10 ай бұрын

Good pick by Minnesota sucks we lost Tuch in expansion thanks Vegas

@nolanfowler1583 10 ай бұрын

Mine is 1. Draisaitl 2. Pasta 3. Sorokin 4. Shestetkin 5. Point 6. Nylander 7. Ehlers 8. Larkin 9. Fiala 10. Schmaltz

@hardw0od 10 ай бұрын

I had it Draisaitl, Pasta then D BOSS

@longislandcards_lic9269 10 ай бұрын

I would have fiala at 9 I think he is a little underrated

@pkzammy666 10 ай бұрын

In a universe the Canucks have both Nylander and Pasta..

@Cilvathorne 6 ай бұрын

Funny how the panthers have 3 of the top 4 draft picks from this year’s draft in their current lineup. Hey Ken Holland, Barkov and Cousins for Draisaitl? 😂

@BrianCorey05 10 ай бұрын

As a Rangers fan I HATE seeing the islanders logo next to Shesty's name

@tallesttreeintheforest 10 ай бұрын

olofsson is a good goalscorer, but other parts of his game is not even at an NHL average, late 1st seem fitting to me.

@marvinmatute7485 10 ай бұрын

The disrespect to Fiala is incredible. Better than McCann by far...

@Nikkerman 10 ай бұрын

Nah no way as a Caps fan would I want Eihlers over Taves, Taves would be fantastic for Carlson the way Kempney was durring the cup run for a longer period of time, and that could have honestly won the caps another cup.

@doug3512 10 ай бұрын

The 2014 draft was a failure for Colorado from top to bottom. What a disaster.

@ZombiewilleatU 10 ай бұрын

tbh the Avs have been balls at the draft for quite a few years, apart from early first rounders (that imo kinda have to hit) there hasn't been much to write home about

@jessiegandhi4340 10 ай бұрын

Shannon could have put Sorokin on the Islanders and Igor on the Flames… but he chose chaos lmao far from a rangers or islanders fan

@s.p.8508 10 ай бұрын

Sorokin above Shesterkin🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

@jayvardy 10 ай бұрын

All Leafs fans would do Nylander for Ekblad in a heartbeat. That would be one of the best trades possible.

@xtraplayer7281 10 ай бұрын

Nylander over Larkin ?

@REAPER-1xxx 10 ай бұрын

You asked Oiler fans how they feel about Point. Drai is my favourite player by far. I wouldn’t take anyone over him. Skilled, tough, shit disturber, pissy and he’s got the strongest backhand sauce at the BBQ.

@michaelkeller5927 10 ай бұрын

Why are you so pissy?

@Riderfan04 10 ай бұрын

I'm just laughing at the fact the 3 out of the Top 4 are playing for Florida minus the fact Ekblad was already drafted by them and is still there after 9 years since the Draft.

@christhornycroft3686 10 ай бұрын

Nylander over Ekblad? I know Ekblad has been injured, but he’s legit top pairing defenseman.

@jferguy2003 10 ай бұрын

I remember don cherry criticizing the oilers because they didn't take Bennett lol leon turned out to be the right choice

@JarradBruessel32 10 ай бұрын

I don't listen to anything cherry has to say about the nhl after the year like 2004

@brucemckinlay9739 10 ай бұрын

There were plenty of Oilers fans who did as well.

@jferguy2003 10 ай бұрын

@brucemckinlay9739 that's fair but I think his reasoning was more how dare the oilers take this German player over this good Canadian boy. The usual when it comes to cherry 😄

@keithck3720 10 ай бұрын

@@JarradBruessel32 Took a couple of decades for a lot of people to catch on that his hockey takes were firmly stuck in the 70s or 80s. I enjoyed that kind of hockey when I was young but give me the skilled league all day everyday.

@michaelkeller5927 10 ай бұрын

@@keithck3720it's not just his hockey opinions that are stuck in the stone age.

@joestrunk9663 10 ай бұрын

would have love to have Bennet in Columbus. Have you ever done a show on how some teams can never can put together a solid consistent playoff team. some teams seem to rebuild and rebound right away . and others never seem to . I go through the blame game .players coach GM owners refs and of course Bettman . I have been watching every night for the last 35 years . and cant figure it out. I follow the jackets leafs jets flames boston rangers and have just added seattle .do i watch to much hockey .

@RobbLovelace 10 ай бұрын

Sorry Shannon, but I’m taking the goalie with a Vezina and who is the better playoff performer.

@JarradBruessel32 10 ай бұрын

Sorokin has been the backbone for the islanders. Sorry he is more consistent and is all around better

@JarradBruessel32 10 ай бұрын

Sorokin has the better save percentage the 3 years they have both been in the league despite playing for a team nowhere near as good as the rangers are. Sorokin carries the islanders. Also sorokin's playoff numbers are very good. His teams lack of offense is what costs them.

@RobbLovelace 10 ай бұрын

Shesterkin is also the backbone of the Rangers and I’d argue the Islanders are a better defensive team than the Rangers. Shesterkin has proven playoff excellence. Sorokin, although he’s also excellent, doesn’t match up to Igor’s playoff success. Sure, I get it that it’s a team sport and the Islanders didn’t make the playoffs in 2022. But consider this regarding the greatness of Igor. Shesterkin playoff stats - .929 save percentage and 2.45 GAA. Sorokin - .923 save percentage and 2.70 GAA. Shesterkin has also played double the amount of playoff games on, I firmly believe, a worse defensive team. And sorry, he’s got a Vezina with one of the most historic modern goaltender regular seasons. I’ll concede that Sorokin has had two back to back consistent, excellent seasons (he’s truly an electrifying goalie) and Igor had a bit of a let down compared to his Vezina year, but I also think it’s a folly argument to say either Shesterkin or Sorokin is more consistent considering Shesty has only had three full seasons as a starter and Sorokin has only had two full seasons. End of the day, I’ll take the guy with the Vezina in a redraft RIGHT NOW. This will be easier to look back on in 10 years.

@JarradBruessel32 10 ай бұрын

@@RobbLovelace shesterkin played for a team that finished 12 th in goals for. The islanders finished 23rd. I would say sorokin is much more important to the islanders success

@RobbLovelace 10 ай бұрын

@@JarradBruessel32 if you want to have a debate about who was more valuable to their team last season (aka Hart Trophy), I will totally concede that Sorokin was more valuable to his team last season. Still, I’ll take the better playoff goalie with a Vezina.