College of Tragedies feels like it was 100% written to try and get Liam to play a bard
@wilhelmscream69198 ай бұрын
or for whoever is in a game with Wil Wheaton.
@LAnimeMaster8 ай бұрын
I believe he did the ad for it when they introduced College of Tragedies, so you may be right.
@TaRatTinCan8 ай бұрын
Except Liam only plays PHB subclasses
@cptsketch138 ай бұрын
@@TaRatTinCanlieve'tel was a grave cleric the subclass from XGE but that's the only one.
@MaLLahoFF8 ай бұрын
That's literally, exactly what happened. kzfaq.infope3D7wKQ7bY?si=vBGXbJ7USqOHhj_X
@gengarpuss18108 ай бұрын
Timestampzz 4:00 Barbarian: Path of the Juggernaut 11:31 Bard: College of Tragedy 20:29 Cleric: Blood Domain 29:46 Cleric: Moon Domain 38:44 Druid: Circle of the Blighted
@aniqueevans15478 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@yuen48178 ай бұрын
Hero, this helps me on rewatches when I'm building characters
@birubu8 ай бұрын
Did they miss runechild?
@burnak73838 ай бұрын
This is part1, so there is more to come 😊
@khaylinsnead34204 ай бұрын
Felt like I was drunk or something when I looked at the time stamps 😂
@nikcantsnipe8 ай бұрын
I think its pronounced Tahl-door-ey. Some of the abilities such as the moon domain cleric's dual concentration or blood letting focus with magic missile or scorching ray can be really potent but they do kind of force you into a certain style of playing.
@Felrohan8 ай бұрын
Yea, it was hard to listen to them butcher the pronunciation so many times lol
@VelourYeti8 ай бұрын
And the same with the pronunciation of "soliloquy"... lol
@gengar6188 ай бұрын
They butcher pronunciation on purpose so that people make comments about it and it drives up engagement in a way that feels ‘natural’ it’s really fucking annoying but it’s a common KZfaqr thing now.
@mattg82628 ай бұрын
I was thinking magic missile would be great for the Blood Cleric too.
@SummerOtaku8 ай бұрын
Slyflourish does this too! It drives me crazy!!
@aydensauvageau93938 ай бұрын
As a reminder with the barbarian, if you cancel out the advantage and disadvantage, it means you could ignore any additional sources (EG someone with pack tactics attacking you, or you attacking in an area of darkness
@SortKaffe8 ай бұрын
Exactly, I would use it whenever I already have disadvantage to give enemies disadvantage too.
@Xenozfan28 ай бұрын
Aaaeeyyyy, I have the exact same portrait on my Twitter account! I wondered if I had randomly left a comment here I forgot about, then remembered this is KZfaq.
@LegendStormcrow7 ай бұрын
Fighting an enemy you flank also works great for that. That said, you'd want to have some kind of taunt skill active.
@Xenozfan27 ай бұрын
@@LegendStormcrow It depends on which flanking rules you go with. I personally use a +2 flanked +5 surrounded (mimicking the cover rules), but the official rule uses advantage.
@LegendStormcrow7 ай бұрын
@@Xenozfan2 True. Then again, I'm half tempted to use modifiers instead of advantage and disadvantage anyways. That rule just seems so, strange. Like, double disadvantage doesn't stack. It should be harder to hit a dodging invisible enemy.
@chrisrogue70988 ай бұрын
Definitely love Matt’s imagery and how well he drives the class fantasy with his subclasses. Mechanically speaking however, they could use a little balance work one way or the other. Thanks for the content gents!
@siamath99548 ай бұрын
Yeah, I feel like some of the subclasses lack proper playtesting. Cause a lot of those issues become quickly apparent in actual play or even building the character (looking at the Runechild). The subclasses that saw play at Matt's table have been revised several times and tend to be more useable.
@commentary42988 ай бұрын
Even the echo knight is only good because of how terribly it’s written, things aren’t well defined, and it’s far too open to abuse. Most of the Mercer classes and subclasses are fine for single class play…..multiclass however that’s a big issue.
@MrDavidKord8 ай бұрын
@commentary4298 "Terribly" is a stretch, and it's certainly not ONLY good because of the exploits.
@commentary42988 ай бұрын
@@MrDavidKord it is only good because of the poor writing, a champion fighter out paces the echo knight without exploiting the echos poorly written features.
@nojusticenetwork93098 ай бұрын
@@commentary4298you keep saying poorly written but not pointing to anything specific. If you are referring to the fact that echo is meant to be classified as an object, that's hardly a case of "terrible" writing. And much like any other subclass written by WotC, reasonable interpretation of what is offered is the way to go. And to say Champion outpaces Echo Knight is wild.
@TheHornedKing8 ай бұрын
The druid can't really create a chain of explosions that way, since the summmons are all immune to necrotic damage.
@Miner49er2018 ай бұрын
I think they were meaning with another spell.
@ZombieLegacy8 ай бұрын
The way around this is to summon the frogs 15ft above your target, creating “necrotic water balloons” that explode from taking fall damage.
@connkahn8 ай бұрын
As long as the conjured beings aren’t beast, fey or plant you can create a chain reaction. I don’t think a 10th lvl Druid has access to a conjuration spell that isn’t fey/beast/plant. If you multiclass to get one then you could do that.
@connkahn8 ай бұрын
You could however cast an aoe spell that causes all the summons to explode. Perhaps a wizard uses fireball
@ZombieLegacy8 ай бұрын
@@connkahn Unfortunately, that still doesn’t work because only Beast, Plant, and Fey summons get the benefits of Foul Conjuration. Blighted Resilience essentially cancels out the ability to chain off of Toxic Demise.
@arcanuke32948 ай бұрын
I think Chronurgy wizards are one of Matt's original creations too right? Kinda wild that he's made 2 subclasses that allow double concentration. Very strong mechanic.
@Matthias-pj6th8 ай бұрын
Matt also made a Feat that let's you do Double Concentration too, and it's exactly as broken as it sounds... In general, Matt seems to not care about game balance so much as fun/awesome stuff.
@birubu8 ай бұрын
@@Matthias-pj6thand a feat that heals your CON mod extra each time you’re healed. Absolutely bonkers with Lay On Hands or Goodberry.
@NecroGoblin-yl2fx8 ай бұрын
@@Matthias-pj6th Matt do care about game balance, BUT he runs homebrew campaigns so the players characters do not have to fit inside a set box, so he makes the campaign around his players characters and how strong they are. and tbh this is the way most should run their campaigns by tweaking the campaign around how strong their players are instead of banning things. i also make my players strong and toss stupid things at them as they have fun with it. i use the Grim Hollow books to make my players into vampires, liches, angels and others that fit their character, but it also makes them stronger, but they have so much fun. though i can say the Specter is really strong as it can go through walls, so if a GM can't handle a little flying DONT use the Specter :D
@Porlakh8 ай бұрын
@@NecroGoblin-yl2fx "Matt do care about game balance, BUT...", nice start to your point, then you proceed to determine how he (and you) doesn't care about the balance of the game, but he cares about the balance of HIS game at the table. As plain 5e subclasses (and creations in general), the balance of Matthew Mercer designs is out of the window. Is that bad? No, meanwhile the DM knows it and the table agrees. And basically that's the whole point of his creations, they are fun, now is up to the DM to "balance" HIS game to achive the ultimate goal at the table for everyone: an enjoyable experience.
@josephgagliardi4388 ай бұрын
But that’s not in general how you publish content. There’s a reason people home brew stuff, and that kind of content is not published. It might be interesting, but most DMs shy away from that kind of stuff. I don’t mind changing anything so long as there is good reason to, but I also don’t publish my work.
@blainemoore73368 ай бұрын
As someone in a party with a tragedy bard, the usage of their BI for “gambles” (good gambles at that) is really overshadowed by the fact that they regain BI almost as quickly as they spend it. I know our table is wildly unlucky but the amount of times when he has said “ope I’ll regain a BI… shoot I’m full up already haha” is astronomical. And he isn’t stingy with BI either. I’d definitely have gone with a B but that’s just my one experience.
@User-he6zd8 ай бұрын
Yeah they missed just how often you or allies roll 1's- about as often as enemies roll 20's! Not to mention you can roll 1s outside of combat-- you regain these BI in exploration, social interactions, etc. that go poorly.... which is likely when you'll want to be at full!
@blainemoore73368 ай бұрын
@@User-he6zd Exactly. I know they talked about preventing failure in some way but failure happens (a lot) for my party so it is nice when someone can capitalize on it and make successes out of future failure with even more BI than any other subclass.
@brewdaly18738 ай бұрын
That was my experience playing one too. I was able to be super generous with my BI because of how often I was getting it back, and it helped soften the blow of rolling so poorly. It was a lot of fun to play.
@phobiawitch8358 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same! I wanna play one cuz the ability ro regain ISNT LIMITED TO COMBAT! And as you level, BI is a SHORT REST RECHARGE! It’s REAL CHEAP! B at LOWEST. A at highest
@dizzysmith5513 ай бұрын
pretty neat to hear it from a player’s table’s perspective!
@TommyTheCat838 ай бұрын
Id like to see Grim Hollow classes and subclasses covered. And then a deep dive into mechanics specific to grim hollow like the transformations.
@epigreviews54058 ай бұрын
Yes
@Damakos8 ай бұрын
Yes
@whiteraven5628 ай бұрын
Oooo that'd be super cool
@roger430678 ай бұрын
My fiancé is playing a juggernaut barbarian in a party full of squishy mages and warlocks. She's been able to use the pushback feature combined with sentinel to peel for the squishies in the party and keep the baddies from getting back in melee with them
@codylamb65878 ай бұрын
When Drakkenheim drops on D&D beyond I'd love for Jill and Joe to do a ranking with Kelly and Monty. Can't wait guys!
@salimufari8 ай бұрын
24:00 I love the idea of using this skill to pick up an unconscious PC, make them drink one of their potions or similar & then drop concentration to raise a fallen ally.
@adambielen89962 ай бұрын
Rogue: Cleric heal me! Cleric: You can do it yourself and I'll make you.
@jochenhaesemeyer11068 ай бұрын
thank you for 5 years of DOD ❤
@theresnoracelikegnome8 ай бұрын
Resolute Stance/Reckless Attack seems slightly exploitable. Since one instance of Advantage/Disadvantage cancels out any number of the opposite, it allows you to effectively cancel any negative position in those terms. If your enemy is invisible, just use both, and you negate both their advantage and your disadvantage, with no downside for yourself.
@gustaafargoan8 ай бұрын
As a DM I totally agree with you, as long as they can see invisible creatures.
@cjslime88478 ай бұрын
It seems like a good feature , yes it’s still a B grade ability but definitely a useful one in those situations
@Ferretic8 ай бұрын
Moon cleric double-concentrating on twin overlapping Moonbeams while a Juggernaut Barbarian and a couple of warlocks with either Repelling Blast or Grasp Of Hadar just bouncing people in and out of the moonbeam effects.
@epigreviews54058 ай бұрын
You can’t overlap spell effects
@Ferretic8 ай бұрын
@@epigreviews5405 oh, gee, I didn't realize that RAW was the only way to go. It's almost like Rule of Cool is a thing that a lot of DMs are into.
@CrazyLikeUhFox8 ай бұрын
@@Ferretiche pointed out a legitimate flaw with your strategy, don’t be like that.
@Ferretic8 ай бұрын
@@CrazyLikeUhFox He made an absolute statement, "You *can't* do that." And yet the fact that house rules exist means that, actually, yeah, you *CAN* do it as long as you sell the DM on it. his "legitimate flaw" only stays legitimate under RAW and completely disregards DM discretion around Rule Of Cool. I'm not gonna let some random tightwad rules lawyer buzzkill on the internet rain on my parade.
@isitnotwrittenthat16808 ай бұрын
@epigreviews5405 where's that from? I've never seen that rule
@AkameOda8 ай бұрын
So awesome to see you covering some 3rd party stuff. I'm making a Blood Hunter & would love to hear your multiclass rankings I hope you cover the other subclasses from Crit Role stuff, like the Paladins' Oath of the Open Sea.
@alexfirefly19568 ай бұрын
Oath of the Open Sea is part of the Tal’Dorei Campaign Setting Reborn, so they probably will
@alexdeware95998 ай бұрын
This totally this please I find the blood hunter class a little daunting. Only been playing for three years and have a goal to try out each class at least once. I play with a bunch of well seasoned players and I’m trying to find my niche maybe blood hunter is it! Or maybe…apothecary!!!!
@BiggestGal8 ай бұрын
Honestly I *love* the College of Tragedy at lower levels. I'm playing one in a Lost Mine game and while we're still only 2nd level I'm excited to try the subclass features because of how much roleplay is baked into the subclass. Sorrowful Fate forcing creatures to utter poetic final words and Nimbus of Pathos literally turning someone into a tragic hero where the atmosphere around them changes to fit the vibe of the affected character being some hero in the process of possibly making the ultimate sacrifice.
@User-he6zd8 ай бұрын
Completely agree with the Juggernaught ranking. Not much additional damage nor best tank abilities, but the ability to move people around is very complementary with other casters and effects-- spike growth, setting up AOE (damage or otherwise) etc is great but not broken whether alone or with a group
@Cyryvy8 ай бұрын
Everything about it shouts "play a minotaur," which is great because I had him as a Psi warrior before this came out.
@Exaltable8 ай бұрын
I don’t agree that it’s “not much additional damage” but that’s just because In a party with a melee rogue and paladin this thing is gonna shit out extra damage wildly. But that’s a reward for having that synergy. It would definitely effect encounter balance if the barbarian was regularly triggering smites and extra sneak attacks though.
@iselreads29088 ай бұрын
I think the Juggernaut's 6th level feature is primarily there to help get through locked doors if it's not happening quietly XD
@johngeralt8 ай бұрын
dropping people prone is a pretty powerful tanking ability. The ability to prevent them reach allies because they spend a lot of movement getting up and having to move the distance pushed is pretty good defensively.
@User-he6zd8 ай бұрын
@@johngeralt Yeah, prone + grapple is amazing and reliable given few if any monsters are proficient in athletics, and a lot of those you would want to grapple aren't the strongest either
@coolman42028 ай бұрын
Not related to your subclasses but I just want to say I’m a HUGE fan of your channel and am already imagining running DoD in the future ❤
@Godzillawolf18 ай бұрын
I've played a College of Tragedy Bard and I actually had a lot of fun with it to be honest. I think the thing is the base Bard is such a good class and if the subclass is a bit lack luster, you've still got a good base class, but just the feel of the class is fun. Also, the 'chain explosion toads' thing won't work: your summons have immunity to necrotic damage and thus aren't harmed by the explosion.
@comradewarners8 ай бұрын
I LOVE The Dungeon Dudes, but man do they pronounce things in an interesting way..
@RLKmedic03158 ай бұрын
Canadians. I love em', but they do things weird up there 😅😅😅
@bloodyirishman91558 ай бұрын
You mean in the wrong way? lol
@maximedauphinais82668 ай бұрын
Always nice to see you cover 3rd party stuff, I'd be very interested in the future in seeing how you rank the Grim Hollow sublasses as well!
@TommyTheCat838 ай бұрын
That would be the bomb.
@senseidryan8 ай бұрын
Its great to see you dudes checking out 3rd Party content for d&d. I'd love to see you cover stuff from Ghostfire Gaming or Kobold Press!
@Composureman8 ай бұрын
Bloodletting Focus + Scorching Ray? Bloodletting Focus + Magic Missile? That's a fair bit of additional damage if it adds to each ray/missile.
@mikecarson77698 ай бұрын
wow, 5 years with Dungeon Dudes KZfaq Channel has become a standard part of life now . . . and thanks for reviewing the Tal'dorei material, impressively creative thematically and easy enough to modify mechanically for game balance
@ekenks86508 ай бұрын
Runechild feels like it would be fun to combo for Rune Forger thematically. Any way to to transmute one resource into another resource has always appealed to me as a feature. That being said, I played a multiclassed Oath of the Open Sea, and a smoke bomb per short rest is incredibly fun
@Arnedillo928 ай бұрын
Dip 2 levels on Druid for Dragon Starry Form from Stars Druids and your Moon Cleric wont lose concentration on their spells. I think that combo is pretty strong cause it comes fully online at level 8. Double moonbeam + free guiding bolts equal to prof with advantage for blessing of the moon + concentration cant be lower than 10 + thorn whip to move people inside both moonbeams. Just insane
@RobKinneySouthpaw8 ай бұрын
26:03 the DM narrates your character getting punched about, blood pouring out of your nose, your gashed open forehead staining the water elemental red as it overwhelms you. " So this water elemental has my blood in it?" .... ..... GM: " what have I done?!"
@TheRealMuckluck8 ай бұрын
Missed opportunity for an exploding toads portmanteau: Exploads.
@treyturner97078 ай бұрын
One of the things I love about the CR subclasses is how thematic they are. They all lean into either the cinematic anime fight scene ascetic, or the edgey edge lord vibe
@BrianWilkersontheAuthor7 ай бұрын
Juggernaut sounds like the most fun to play. I might try solely for the opportunity to steamroll a hag's minions while shouting "I'm the Juggernaut, witch!"
@yoelbendavid17118 ай бұрын
I think 8 crows in trees over the battlefield flying at the enemy and then exploding as they are struck… ❤️
@User-he6zd8 ай бұрын
Blighted druid is fun to play imo, but (not at that level yet) the highest level feature is pretty ass. Low temp hp for level, you have to be in an area where you take damage and are maybe near enemies (and if not, not fully utilising other features)
@Dxella8 ай бұрын
Bards Tragedy with minor changes and it would be awesome. 1. no reaction for return of inspiration die. Just be within x range of the Ally 2. Just have reaction + insp die to change save. 3. Like u said, If an ally within range struck by a crit, you spend reaction + insp die to make that allies next strike to be a CRIT. ( Or could be if the next attack hits will be a CRIT) I think those changes would bump it up to A tier. There still some gamble however u do, no need to double down on it
@blackthunderdragon68048 ай бұрын
That druid be like: KILLER QUEEN HAS ALREDY TOUCH THAT FROGG
@joaod.carvalho1828 ай бұрын
As much as I am a fan of the exploding squirrel technique, I don't think it works: the summons are immune to necrotic damage, and they deal necrotic damage when they explode, thus preventing a chain reaction. Damn you Mercer!!! 😂
@bigboxofstuff8 ай бұрын
Great Video! It's important to me to let you know I have been watching for a while and every video I get something out of. Sadly I started getting into playing just before 2020 didn't even get to play until it was mostly over and was still doing that online and then the whole OGL thing hit. So just getting started with TTRPGs was difficult for me. But thanks to you, Bob world builder, Critical Role, DND shorts, professor DM, Jocat and so many others I got to fill the hole not being able to play was filled. I want to thank all of you for what you do! Have a great holiday season and a great new year!
@DungeonDudes8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! I’m glad you managed to get into it. TTRPGS are truly wonderful.
@matthewlaird52358 ай бұрын
Boots of flying on a Moon cleric is sick. You could also multi class genie warlock for fly, but you would be MAD.
@bensawyer5998 ай бұрын
“This is your French onion dip”… lol! I must use that reference from now on! Thank you 😂
@maxmazzel8 ай бұрын
5:49 One more niche benefit of doing both resolute stance and reckless is that you (almost) can't be sneak attacked. Since you technically give them disadvantage, which prevents sneak attack use. 21:30 Bloodletting Focus seems very strong with Magic Missle. Each missle deal an additional 3 dmg (or more if you upcast), so now it suddenly deals (1d4+4)x3 at leaset 15dmg for a 1st lvl spell
@pieguy53238 ай бұрын
"rain of toads" - the best thing ever said
@mattdahm42898 ай бұрын
Thanks dudes!
@mrpowershield8 ай бұрын
I think the bard class is underrated, you go wild sorcerer with good, and the bard class is the some things
@max_2da_max3368 ай бұрын
Fantastic video and subclasses! A few questions/ points: Barbarian - would they no longer be impeded by Disadvantage from Invisibility/ Hiding/ Spells like Blur (assuming the space they target has a valid enemy) by taking the stance and Reckless Attack, and similarly be able to Negate any potential Advantage enemies could have against them (and features like Sneak Attack if, say, the Rogue got possessed/ Charmed?) Moon Cleric - Thematically fun concept: Moonbeam into Faerie Fire, which, incidentally, could be seen as AoE Guiding Bolt, if Faerie Fire enemies all stay within Moonbeam Range 😅
@WolfCry7918 ай бұрын
Came for the Blight Druid and left wanting to play a Moon Cleric
@MyRegularNameWasTaken8 ай бұрын
Explode-a-Toad doesn't work, your summons are immune to Necrotic damage.
@guardiantree88798 ай бұрын
Just need a different trigger then, summon spiders or flies to surround enemy, then chuck an aoe spell or set up the wizard for an even more explosive fire ball.
@ZombieLegacy8 ай бұрын
Summon the creatures 15 feet above the target. When they hit the ground, they all take “fall damage” and act like water balloons of necrotic damage.
@NXPhoenix38 ай бұрын
What's squirrel for "The One True God shall drive out the many!"? Asking for a Caprican Blight Druid friend.
@SlinkyTWF8 ай бұрын
The wild swings between the D and S tiers sounds to me like there wasn't enough playtesting.
@nyxihuber60068 ай бұрын
Blood Domain is really neat. My boy makes "friends" and asks for their blood as friendship, so he can then turn around and spy through NPCs, etc. It's fun. :D I multiclassed him with some Ghostslayer Blood Hunter so not only does he have the Blood Puppet Divinity, he has the blood puppet BH curse.
@NerfThisBoardGames8 ай бұрын
Cool to see you guys at PAX, thanks for making cool content
@sagenod4408 ай бұрын
“I really like pushing people around” CANCELLED
@SatoThe8 ай бұрын
Who else had no idea what a Tal’Dorei was, but clicked on the video because it’s the Dudes?
@captainthorrek2628 ай бұрын
I would actually play a Path of the Juggernaut Barbarian, then multiclass into College of Tragedies Bard... Behold, it's Braggar, the Uninteresting. "Well..We'll... let's get this over with..."
@Hynrah6 ай бұрын
So I would start off by saying I really enjoy your content and analysis. That being said, I found a common pattern where I think you always analyze classes and subclasses from an options standpoint, and your end result is always a high ranking on character that can just cover "more" basis (which is fine). However, I personally think that lowers the subclass ranking rather than increasing it. Reason being, when you are in a party with multiple PC's who can cover everything, you get a lot of overlap and people stepping on other people's toes. I always found that characters that stay in their pocket and have a theme that they stick to are always the more memorable out of the group, as such subclasses with less options and higher theme rank higher in my opinion because they focus more on their roleplay identity.
@NapoleonSoares8 ай бұрын
Pushing people around is incredibly powerful when you consider it can be combined with any spellcaster's damage over time aoes to allow for incredible damage. Those spells are very commonly cast at tables and getting two free shoves while doing your regular barbarian damage can really pump out crazy damage against enemies.
@User-he6zd8 ай бұрын
If a class gets an ability that increases the BI they expect to enter a combat with and another that provides a so-so and less frequently occuring use for that BI, that is still good overall. You can always use BI on normal BI stuff when the best use case (BBED scored nat 20, round 1, you're full on BI and have a Paladin ready to go) isnt there
@ToastierHat8 ай бұрын
I absolutely praise your correct pronunciation of 'niche', Kelly, I think it's the first time ever hearing a North American saying it right 😂
@eyoung9477 ай бұрын
That blood puppet spell would be my Weekend at Bernie’s
@saurianwatcher44377 ай бұрын
OK, circle of the blighted (chain reaction) use the owls, send them in to swarm, ready the action to detonate them after someone attacks it. That way up until the ally makes an attack, they're giving the enemy disadvantage.
@khaderkhan1908 ай бұрын
Tragedy Bard.... in our 1 shot, "I want the BBeG to make a save for xyz and it will be a charisma save" DM "Well they choose to not fail that 1 point of Legendary Resistance spent". I think as said even that gimmick is well a gimmick that only helps on things that your party should have little problems with anyway.
@redguard1918 ай бұрын
Lighting makes me realize that Kelly would be a hell of a silver fox
@matthugenberg88698 ай бұрын
Welp, exploding toads is definitely the goal of my next DND character
@deathflip6668 ай бұрын
I think for the College of Tragedy Bard that it stands out in the sense that you can be free to farm bardic insirpation in out of combat scenarios like roleplay or exploration. You can have multiple party members make the same roll (like for perception or athletics to cross obstacle) and farm the bardic inspiration in scenarios where even if one person fails, the group doesn't fail. I would have liked to see this more in high C or low B teir.
@jordanarcher67905 ай бұрын
Moon domain cleric/ rogue sounds like it would go crazy. Moon beam and fairie fire followed by hiding and sneak attacks on following turns that you don't have to move moon beam
@Reoh0z8 ай бұрын
Its one of those stories that happened to a friend of a friend in a movie.
@speeddemon92318 ай бұрын
The blighted druid feels like a poison ivy 2.0 version build from the circle of spores
@User-he6zd8 ай бұрын
Tragedy Bard is mechanically quite weak, but you leave out the synergies between the abiltiies, +10/-10 is quite strong standalone too and can be used 1/SR (+10 to important saving throws!) or more often if you're in tough combats where you get knocked down-- which is where you'll need it to make sure your spell attack hits or you save against Disintegrate or such Really the only thing expending uses is when an enemy crits you or an ally, and you get extra inspiration back when you or an ally roll a 1.... statistically these shouldnt be too different! So overall you have more inspiration and can choose to use it when crit-- but dont have to-- not useful if on a mook who is being hit with saving throw spells or already on low health Not to mention you only get crit in combat but have a lot of opportunities to roll a 1... exploration, social interaction, etc. pillars.
@patchodraws92008 ай бұрын
adding onto this, there are very few bard spells and subclasses that actually use a reaction, and if you're not built for melee combat, you won't be too worried about opportunity attacks, either. with my tragedy bard, most of my reactions are for those nat. 1 moments, since i've really got nothing else to do for a reaction (my DM banned silvery barbs so that's another part of it lmao)
@andrewjack21168 ай бұрын
I played a Red DB Juggernaut Barbarian in a year long campaign AND I LOVED HIM!! But I do believe that it was the feats and a few key items that truly made him unstoppable! I had the winged boots a +1 great axe and the ring of free action. Then I gave him the mobile&charger feats! He was a nightmare for my DM. 1st round he had 125ft of movement that could also be in flight, he could not be slowed stopped or incapacitated save death! BTW we called the reckless + "defense" stance combo "cautiously reckless" lol
@ryse97178 ай бұрын
This had me thinking of a jekyll and hyde barbarian subclass where your int & strength stats swap whenever you rage. Might not be the most original or powerful subclass but sounds like a lot of fun to roleplay.
@MrAranak8 ай бұрын
Grim Hollow's Player guide has a path of the fractured barbarian that does the Jekyll/Hyde transformation but it Is not nearly as close as the Mutagenist subclass of the Apothecary that does precisely what you are describing when they drink/inject their Transmogrifying Elixir. It plays like a barbarian and an int based warlock style class.
@Yevrin7 ай бұрын
I'm playing a Tragedy Bard in a campaign set in Exandria and I love it. I will say that this subclass gets more usage of its nat 1 reaction the bigger your party is (and no one playing a halfling :P). with 6 other people around, the likelihood of someone rolling a nat 1 is high and so I can give inspiration out like candy cuz I have high chances of getting them back. Bards don't really have reaction spells (unless you have silvery bards allowed) until a magical secret might give you counterspell, so it's nice to be able to use a reaction and get a useful resource back without trying to get a group to agree to a short rest. I wouldn't say it's superb, but a B instead of a C/D would be nice.
@xNoelxLeonx8 ай бұрын
Also a bit surprised there was no mention of Warcaster or Eldritch Mind possibly canceling out disadvantage for the Moon Cleric double concentration, essentially negating that drawback.
@tribulationwolf8 ай бұрын
I just asked about that before i read this comment. If warcaster does cancel it out then that is one massive lvl 6 ability
@xNoelxLeonx8 ай бұрын
@@tribulationwolf Definitely! It's already pretty good with the limitation of spell list and the disadvantage on concentration checks. Sure, you'd have to use up a feat to negate that if it works but that's a worthy price to pay if you've commited to this playstyle just to make that lvl 6 feature even better
@repetitiveDebug8 ай бұрын
I mean war caster is just worth having anyway so it's not like it's a massive waste
@crystalcavesmystic8 ай бұрын
Hexblood Blighted Druid. I have one created. Not had a chance to play yet, but excited for it.
@BigChucka4198 ай бұрын
Ending sounds like an A not an I
@alex-r-t8 ай бұрын
Yep! Tal-door-ay
@ShieTar_8 ай бұрын
Reckless attacks in a resolute stance seems kind of powerful to me. Since Advantage and Disadvantage always cancel perfectly, no matter how many source of either there are, the combination would just negate any instance where you have disadvantage, or your enemies have advantage naturally. Doesn´t matter if you are constrained, or blinded, or whatever ... you just get to roll flat and make your enemies roll flat too.
@JC-hl7wt8 ай бұрын
Juggernaut is B tier tops, those benefits with moving people are completely reliant on your party members actually being capable of capitalizing on you moving enemies. Especially when crusher is a feat that exists that provides mostly the same benefits. Most campaigns won’t get beyond level 10 to even use the good features that the class provides.
@LeChevalierduLys8 ай бұрын
The moon cleric seems OP but I always liked moon themes. Sehanine Moonboow, Selune and Eilistraee are 3 of my all time favorite deities in D&D.
@andrewhalverson69748 ай бұрын
I've really wanted you guys to do this with Grim Hollow subclasses.
@wyattfraga22138 ай бұрын
Bloodletting Focus with upcasted magic missile would be insanely busted against a non-caster.
@randallgpreston7 ай бұрын
I'd like to note that reaction attacks don't trigger off of forced movement. So, a Barbarian pushing creatures around doesn't give their allies reaction attacks.
@MrOwen8178 ай бұрын
I had this on in the background and “French onion dip” stopped me in my tracks, 😅😂
@JonnyLOV8 ай бұрын
Do you mean oil? NO! I mean the black blood of the earth.
@tsl40318 ай бұрын
Adding the Circle of the Blight's Toxic Demise to the Conjure Airstrike tech is very funny. Admittedly there's no half damage on a save for the necrotic half, but that still lets you turn a single 3rd level Conjure Animals spell into an average 125 points of single target damage (assuming a 60% chance of succeeding both the Con and Dex saves).
@VoiceNerd8 ай бұрын
"Tal-Dor-eye?" Must not have ever watched Critical Role to know the pronunciation hahaha. All good honestly lol
@carloslemus48618 ай бұрын
I'm in a campaign where I am playing a blood magic wizard. And I think it's incredibly powerful. The blood channeling that let's you use up your hp rather than spell component it awesome especially the spells that consume the spell component. I can easily have a similacuram and replace it just for a new one just as easily.
@KingGimpo3338 ай бұрын
Having played the Blight Druid, I can tell you that it is absolutely A tier *at least*. With teamwork, the extra damage PER TURN in the blighted ground can rack up to be massive. The little blightling summon puts in work, and having your summons become miniature grenades is, as you pointed out, hilariously good. The +2 AC and temp HP is also not to be scoffed at. +2 AC reeeeally helps out as a passive ability, and the temp HP is like a lesser but constant twilight cleric.
@futurecaredesign8 ай бұрын
Man I still can't believe that Drakkenheim will be available on DnDbeyond soon! Can't wait to run around in the City of Drakkenheim. I am thinking of playing an Eladrin Tome Warlock but I want to flavor him like an Arcane Archer. No pact or patron to roleplay, just reflavor Eldritch Blast like arrows shot from a bow. I want to play an Arcane Archer so bad and the Genie subclass is just perfect to make that idea come alive. He is basically a Robin Hood, a kind of revolutionary for the people that would oppose any kind of oppression or hierarchy.
@air3jordan8 ай бұрын
So unfortunate that this is a better route to take to play as an Arcane Archer than the official Fighter Arcane Archer or any of the Ranger subclasses. I too have the desire to play a magic arrow shooting Robin Hood-esque creature and have found no RAW way to make it enjoyable
@minimoose78908 ай бұрын
These really seem like they were not properly edited, playtested, or balanced.
@RJeremyHoward8 ай бұрын
Resolute Stance + Reckless also makes it so that other things that would have advantage on you no longer have advantage on you....
@LegendStormcrow7 ай бұрын
Resolute stance from a flank. Merge that with a taunt skill.... Pair with a melee rogue and and a spell caster with a targeted taunt spell of some kind (making you thrle lure) for some fun, especially with the zone control
@taylororourke25258 ай бұрын
That was some *S Tier* dip,
@Nights_Angel8 ай бұрын
it's the ratling blast all over again.
@erdmaennchen1058 ай бұрын
One thing to notice is thar critical roll is a 6 man party, so effects like the bard one that charge when you roll a nat 1 are way more common than in drakkenheim with half the players
@cam-the-bassist8 ай бұрын
with Tragedy Bard, they should have just built the class around being powered up by failure, as it stands it feels like you're paying such a steep cost for your abilities. They could have built the core mechanic around lamenting the failure of yourself and allies to regain dice and then pontificating about the impending doom of enemies (messing with saving throws etc) to expend dice.
@coffeeproblems57808 ай бұрын
I cannot believe i overlooked 'sploadin toads. I cannot wait to do this
@user-ht1wn9lv8n8 ай бұрын
With the moon cleric, take warcaster to negate the disadvantage and 2 levels of druid to go circle of stars. Round 1, greater invisibility as your action and for your bonus action, use the dragon starry form and any roll of 9 or lower on a concentration check is treated as a 10. Round 2, moonbeam away. If it’s looking like a long battle, round 3 BA spiritual weapon and move your moonbeam around with your action. I would want resilient (con) as well as soon as I could. But being invisible and with those boosts to your concentration checks, it would be pretty hard to break your concentration.
@ToabyToastbrot8 ай бұрын
I've been playing a circle of the blighted druid for about a year now and it's great fun, the wildshape stuff helped on lower levels, everything else is great for every level. The only thing missing would be a bonus spell list that makes some "blight themed" necrotic spells a bit more accessible. But all in all a great subclass, definitely A tier and above.
@Caiphex8 ай бұрын
Super Excised for this as I play a Blood Wizard in Call of the Netherdeep right now
@silver_tongue_studio8 ай бұрын
The Circle of Blight combo you guys are talking about chaining is actually similar to the strategy used with the Corpse-crafter feat in 3.5e. Negative energy healed undead in 3.5, but of they all bluw up at the same time (from a fire ball) you're doing a huge nuke. The College of Tragedy also reminds me of Dirgesinger, a Prestige Class from 3.5e.
@isaackarr65768 ай бұрын
24:49 totally until bloodied within your control healing spells also providing the help action allowing the help as welling force.
@maltanno8 ай бұрын
Does a flesh golem have blood? Does a vampire have blood?!