Absolutely love to hear these types of stories, keep them coming. Loves the documentary btw mate
@CW-ke8rk2 жыл бұрын
Viv was terrified of Ernie Bewick. He beat him in the amateurs. He knew he could fight and had the balls to go to Newcastle with one lad to fight his mentor in Billy Robinson. Ernie smashed Billy. Viv decided to take a liberty and he punched Ernie. Ernie thought he lost and was driving away when the lad that was with him said that Viv was out of order there hitting you. Ernie was like WHAT? He turned right back around and marched straight into Vivs gym and Viv was all apologetic and said Billy’s my mentor and you were beating him. Ernie being Ernie decided to let it go. A few weeks later Ernie got told that Viv and a lot of his men were going to come to Sunderland to cause bother with Ernie so Ernie got 200 of his doorman and waited for them. It was bs. It never happened. Ernie was the complete opposite of Viv in that he wasent a bully. Both hard men but Ernie was fair. The Taxman thought he was going to have to fight Ernie cuz of some beef with some businessman. Both sat down to a cup of tea and Brian said you couldn’t meet a nicer man but when things would kick off. Ernie was a pit bull. Shame Ernie had to kill someone in a manslaughter charge that cost him the doors in Sunderland but the guy tried to take a liberty with him.
@starboy77602 жыл бұрын
Wow, you read the Steve Richards books. Congratulations
@CW-ke8rk2 жыл бұрын
@@starboy7760 - I did and I also know the man and worked for him. Ernie’s a gentleman with no fear of any man. Didn’t matter how hard with you are/were. You cause bother on his doors back in the day(drunk or high). He pays you a visit on his own for a little chat the very next day, and more times than enough, the same people would come back to the club and apologise.
@jimmyoconnell61672 жыл бұрын
Billy Robinson was a old man when the fight happened billy I'm his prime unbeatable well knowing all over the uk
@truthseekerforever70022 жыл бұрын
they where 11 stone when boxing viv ended up being huge 19st put Ernie down
@truthseekerforever70022 жыл бұрын
that story is very scetchy.
@barnetthejosh2 жыл бұрын
Lovely video and I think a truer reflection than many.
@smoggynicky283025 күн бұрын
Im from Middlesbrough and was 16 when lee died... Middlesbrough in those days was full of big lads who wanted the reputation to be the hardest in boro...lee might be the best known in boro at the time but there plenty of others who would carry on in the same manner...he was just a product of his environment... Even since those days there's plenty of others who want to be/are the same as lee but...no one could or will match him
@vordman3 жыл бұрын
I have to admit I'm Southern softy living in the Shires but I'm obsessed with these North East gangsters. Haha.
@toppertruthio3 жыл бұрын
What does it matter,theres a lee duffy,and a viv graham in every town,they are not heroes,and they are both dead
@warcrypublishing Жыл бұрын
So what brought you here?
@toppertruthio Жыл бұрын
@@warcrypublishing i saw dead people
@Minkyyy670Ай бұрын
@@warcrypublishing you are a pure leach
@Billyg2152 жыл бұрын
Have to say that this tale had my imagination running wild with the thought of Viv Graham being used a ventriloquists dummy.
@joekiddyshaw57573 жыл бұрын
So why did'nt he come looking for Lee when he was repeatedly knocking Vivs bouncers out left, right n centre ... literally leaving fellas awake to tell Viv he was on he's own doorstep ?
@chucklombardo81673 жыл бұрын
That only happened once duffy obviously wasn't looking that hard if he never met him think of all the nights viv was there but duffy didn't show up i very much doubt a man like viv Graham wud hide from anyone
@joekiddyshaw57573 жыл бұрын
@@chucklombardo8167 Am not saying he was ever hiding from him mate, far from it ... all im saying is i thought Lee would've done Viv, thats all
@chucklombardo81673 жыл бұрын
@@joekiddyshaw5757 i don't think he wud but we will never no
@Gareth132 жыл бұрын
@@chucklombardo8167 viv was asked to fight duffy and trund it down
@CW-ke8rk2 жыл бұрын
Many people from different towns said that Viv turned down Lee numerous times to fight and Lee was knocking out his doorman relentlessly. Viv may have threatened him in jail when Lee was in his late teens, but it changed a few year later.
@geordie-drywall2 жыл бұрын
Not enough of these funny stories of the characters of the north east. Was howling at the ventriloquist bit 😂🤣😅
@dannyo64133 жыл бұрын
We've heard umpteen stories of many big names telling us exactly what happened, but of course we'll believe vivs pal instead 😂😂
@christiphermeadows53483 жыл бұрын
Fantastic to listen to this.....great...👍
@antoneckhart40102 жыл бұрын
yeah the 90s was a crazy time, love these stories, jamie writes great books, the audiobooks of his makes the day at work much better.
@da90sReAlvloc Жыл бұрын
They should make a viv Graham movie that would be interesting
@twothreebravo23743 жыл бұрын
Not too sure I believe this gentleman. Seems to big Viv up alot when numerous other sources beg to differ
@thetruththewayandthelife8033 жыл бұрын
@@Bereal711 talking absolute shit
@mandem91573 жыл бұрын
@@Bereal711 why didn’t he then he wouldn’t fight Duffy cos he was scared
@demimoffatt79003 жыл бұрын
@@mandem9157 it was a set up ffs Viv was going too get done in by a few not just the mighty duffer ,
@jamesfretwell15113 жыл бұрын
People need to stop with the Viv v Duffy stuff now mind. They never had a fight, so nobody will ever know what would of happened. The whole thing reminds me of school playground arguments, my dad's bigger than your dad rubbish.
@adytowe79693 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree with you on that let it go because we will never know
@danglassford39682 жыл бұрын
We do know what would of happened the duffer would of made viv his bitch
@brunol98762 жыл бұрын
Viv was nothing but a strong 💪 man and a clown
@Cornell8512 жыл бұрын
Duffy would of bashed Viv...
@craigfoy5492 Жыл бұрын
Well said
@archiejay76523 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed Jamie's last book on lee Duffy I would recommend it.
@arunsd92 жыл бұрын
Errrm...if you listen to any other story abour Fred the head Mills, nobody would give Viv a chance against him. Bronson rates Fred higher than Duffy and Sykes
@jimmyoconnell61672 жыл бұрын
Fred Mills lived in the same street as me when the police came or him they were mob handed , I seen take out 6 policemen like they weren't there
@fluxfotos222 жыл бұрын
Lee Duffy was obsessed with carry on films and based his whole image on Oddbod.
@callumbrown54902 жыл бұрын
Ian Freeman the toughest man in the north ex mma champion and Newcastle doorman
@ADZ019829 ай бұрын
Think a few local names wanted to fight Ian Freeman but he wasn't interested.
@alanastill73372 жыл бұрын
Top doorman philly tobin proper gentleman, never a bully, politetely ask you to leave and next week you're his friend type of guy
@Billyg2152 жыл бұрын
That`s the type of person who knows what they can and can not do and just get on with it.
@jimmyoconnell61672 жыл бұрын
I was in medomsley detention centre with Lee duffy
@leeanderson39122 жыл бұрын
It’s like saying what would win a fight between T. rex and a Godzilla, never fucking happened and never will, much harder men about at that time than these, real gangsters , should let them both RIP
@braille55752 жыл бұрын
Like who if you don't mind me asking, Lee never lost and he fought them all. Lee destroyed anything he hit, and he took on multiple people at once, viv was a hard man but the duffer was exceptional.
@leeanderson39122 жыл бұрын
@@braille5575 these people were not gangsters, hard men but not willing to go the extra mile to be a real gangster, people know who the real gangsters were in these areas, not hard to work out
@garymay89052 жыл бұрын
King Kong would beat T. rex and Godzilla while eating a banana.
@leefarrington25533 жыл бұрын
Who is the chap talking ?
@skottcoucill83432 жыл бұрын
Alan Shatsmear.
@alanchalloner5097 Жыл бұрын
Who’s this fella talking????
@garyblake42962 жыл бұрын
Albert Reading would have done the both of them....:)
@garyblake42962 жыл бұрын
@@davidfitzgerald4683 I love to hear his banter.
@tonyturner27992 жыл бұрын
Leave off lol
@johnboyle27472 жыл бұрын
Who knows but the duffer for me I'm from the boro
@steviegturner67183 жыл бұрын
Bought the book's was interested in Lee and viv bought your book's just like to say stop milking it please some shit is important something's aren't
@sw84672 жыл бұрын
Is that topsy who ran the market tavern? Gotta be, he could have a go topsy like he had a few amatuers with a man i know wont say his name because he turned out to be a real wrongun. Phil stamps dad ran the one and topsy ran the other just forget its name
@warcrypublishing Жыл бұрын
No mate
@Joethecatholic3 жыл бұрын
Man doesn’t sound too sure of what he’s saying.
@allangreenley99013 жыл бұрын
I agree with you.. Duffy was the aggressive party he was wanting fight not Viv
@Joethecatholic3 жыл бұрын
@@Bereal711 well he’s obviously Viv Graham’s friend so he’s bigging him up over Lee Duffy.
@tarndrinker37633 жыл бұрын
@@Joethecatholic Brian the bullshiter lol trouble his he don't need to make exaggerated story's up he was a man mountain and hard as fuck but makes out he's next level on every topic he's full of shit
@Joethecatholic2 жыл бұрын
@@abcdefghij5863 🤣😂
@thomasgal99842 жыл бұрын
Duffy wouldn’t of took a telling off from viv😂
@GarethSewell19822 жыл бұрын
Who shot Viv Graham, was it someone local, or from away?
@warcrypublishing2 жыл бұрын
Who knows….
@scottyg7160 Жыл бұрын
Sayers
@anthony55964 Жыл бұрын
@@scottyg7160 how do you know it was defo the sayers?
@ADZ019829 ай бұрын
Viv upset alot of made people over the years so it could be a few
@scarymary4613 жыл бұрын
Rob Armstrong what a Plonker! Gone straight Yeah - Bouncers in Newcastle back then thick as mince - not much difference . This guy seems alright - Francis Duffy the son - robbed everyone little oink -
@alfreddunn033 жыл бұрын
That’s the first time ever I have heard of Duffy backing down to Viv Graham, and also some woman saying Lee Duffy couldn’t live with many lads in South Bank, but this man was very good friends with Viv Graham, so you take it with a pinch of salt.
@delboy79283 жыл бұрын
Lee beat everyhard man in sound bank so i dont know who he was scared off lee was fearless thats wot made him different he had no fear mentalaty beats braun every time lee had both
@allangreenley99013 жыл бұрын
I agree with you.. Lee Duffy definitely was not afraid of anyone around. I think they had a confrontation in Durham jail of some sort but Duffy was the one wanting to fight . couldn't see him been warned by Viv Graham at all
@demimoffatt79003 жыл бұрын
@@delboy7928 who?
@BullyBoxer2 жыл бұрын
@@delboy7928 yeah but Southbank ent a very big place is it .😂
@delboy79282 жыл бұрын
Viv ran from duffy fact
@samjones43232 жыл бұрын
Duffy would of thrashed viv for fun 😂
@JK-oj5sf2 жыл бұрын
No chance 💯
@brunol98762 жыл бұрын
Viv wasn't a fighter more a strong man bully
@stanleyspacehopper11 ай бұрын
28 boxing fighthe won out of 30 Duffy never had a bout
@keekstar29143 жыл бұрын
Frank butcher
@warcrypublishing Жыл бұрын
Ha Ha!
@user-eo7ox2tw1d11 ай бұрын
Viv dodged fighting lee what a gather
@ADZ019829 ай бұрын
Think he had more to lose than gain fighting Duffy. It was all set up by firms who wanted Viv to lose face.
@starofdavid99192 жыл бұрын
HAIL HAIL THE CELTS ARE HERE.
@MrG772 жыл бұрын
How can people be glorifing these 2 hard men. They both got murdered. One was stabbed in the back and the other got shot in the back. It's sad it really is. But what I have read and watched show them as bullies and look what happened to them. May they both rest in peace but I bet they are both up there saying to each other I wish we took a different path eh mate.!!!!
@paulsmith3822 жыл бұрын
When karate can stop a bullit take up karate
@warcrypublishing2 жыл бұрын
or even worse Judo
@turquoisecat761 Жыл бұрын
Wish the interviewer would be quiet, he keeps interrupting.
@warcrypublishing Жыл бұрын
Will try harder next time
@rob16152 жыл бұрын
I don't believe a word this bloke is saying about Viv and Lee by saying Viv warned him as it's well known that lee went looking for Viv and even knocking some of his men out and telling them that he wanted Viv and this bloke being close to Viv is going to stick by Vivs side
@johnboyharold61302 жыл бұрын
Lots of experts on here is there not 🤣 clowns we will never know who would of beat who so give it a rest .
@jimmyoconnell61672 жыл бұрын
Freddie Mills lived in my old street always battering coppers
@jimmyoconnell61672 жыл бұрын
@@Bereal711 Newcastle he died about 9 yr ago
@jimmyoconnell61672 жыл бұрын
@@Bereal711 100% geordie he done paul sykes twice in Durham prison he got the name Fred the head by smashing the door in Broadmoor Charlie bronson speaks of him highly unbeable liquid cosh they used on him
@jimmyoconnell61672 жыл бұрын
@@Bereal711 there was a boxer also with the same name the one up here got the name Fred the head because he smashed the door down using his head in in Broadmoor he also done Roy Shaw in prison no there no videos on him he took our 6 huge coppers back in the 60s the police were terrified of him
@shauncarney85042 жыл бұрын
Personally I think Lee Duffy would have done Viv Graham if the fight would have happened
@GraveCareMaintenanceServices2 жыл бұрын
nope
@boyasaka Жыл бұрын
Most of Duffy's so called wins were sucker punches He would knock his victims out with 1 punch ,yes he obviously had a exceptionally powerfull fast punch ,but he wouldn't have won so many fights if him and his opponent stood 2 meters apart and then commenced fighting , Duffy even sucker punched Cockerill the first time they met after brian introduced himself
@ADZ019829 ай бұрын
@@boyasakaYes I heard that as well. Lee was a notorious for whacking people off guard aka sucker punching them. Mind I heard similar bout Viv as well.
@fatman43462 жыл бұрын
Chubby brown has hit rock bottom
@Billyg2152 жыл бұрын
Who is Rock Bottom a comedian like chubby.
@delboy79283 жыл бұрын
Duffy scared of viv no chance it was viv in the end asking lee to back off
@braille55753 жыл бұрын
Supposedly though viv rang Lee and said I don't want to fight you but if you keep chinning my doorman there will be trouble. Meaning I'll have you taken care of.
@delboy79283 жыл бұрын
@@braille5575 there was a phone but that wasnt wot was said viv ask lee to back off and lee went nuts and said his coming down viv then left he did everything he could to avoid lee then they were both murderd
@braille55753 жыл бұрын
@@delboy7928 Ask Manny Burgo mate he was there.
@thetruththewayandthelife8033 жыл бұрын
@@braille5575 taxman of teesside book says Lee threatened viv on a prison visit.. Something to do with Lee's brother
@thetruththewayandthelife8033 жыл бұрын
@@braille5575 and bronson said Fred would've done viv and Lee... The book says one of the woods brothers beat Fred and Lee thought both the brothers at the same time
@darrenmarch13172 жыл бұрын
There u go mate that should help with your obsession with duffy...
@warcrypublishing2 жыл бұрын
Who's obsession?
@davidbillyard6629 Жыл бұрын
@@Bereal711 Brian has stated that when he got out of jail after Duffy was murdered, he paid Allo a visit and gave him a beating.
@davidbillyard6629 Жыл бұрын
@@Bereal711 Maybe you could direct your question about this at Brian C, he’s not too difficult to get in contact with.
@davidbillyard6629 Жыл бұрын
@@Bereal711 I don’t have to answer any of your questions. Read my previous message again. Goodbye 👋.
@carpman29213 жыл бұрын
Viv phoned up Sayers dad and told him he didn't want to fight the duff I'm to old now - and the dad phoned lee who wos not happy and looked for viv- who wos in hiding - Lee would knocked him clean out - Charlie Bronson was in jail with both Viv was a bully for the prison guards- and Lee wanted to be the daddy of the jail- and according to Charles Bronson Lee Duffy would of smashed the granny out of him Lee wos a hand full
@hometruthshomie86882 жыл бұрын
Fighting is a young man's game. That is why in nature, the young Silverback almost always defeats the old Silverback. However, young fighters can be outsmarted and 'old maned' so to speak by a more senior fighter's experience. I think Viv was weary of Lee and his youth, energy and more so fearless attitude, The best chance Viv would have had is to try and outsmart Lee, and use smarts to beat him in a potential street fight or straightener. I wonder how Pat Tate would have faired against them lol.
@carpman29212 жыл бұрын
Maverick Musique I don't think pat had the skills to beat them - he wos a bully not a boxer - but he always had a smile on his face pat
@markrushton33623 жыл бұрын
Bollocks
@jasonbishop42473 жыл бұрын
so much bull shit spoken, how the hell will we ever know the truth
@lewisriley20152 жыл бұрын
Absolute rubbish. I asked Rob Armstrong and he has never heard of this fella.... nonsense because Boyle is in a huff over the duffy stuff
@tootsiroll41342 жыл бұрын
Does he ever talk about Viv
@ianjackson80432 жыл бұрын
Bullshit..rob knows him well lol
@lewisriley20152 жыл бұрын
@@ianjackson8043 No he doesn't. Boyle is just planting names to enhance the Duffy/Graham saga. Just like Philly amazingly says 'Paul venis, dunno if you know him' just as Jamie is plugging a certain Paul Venis all over his feed. It's horeshite
@everythingcarpy11 ай бұрын
Duffy would of smashed viv graham and when he said Duffy would of lived with Venus and the others ffs Duffy would of battered them he was the hardest bloke around back then with Brian by along way
@waynemcnally6972 ай бұрын
Viv and Duffy were in jail together and me dad was in at the same time and the we know what the truth is 💯 believe me yas hvnt a clue
@JoshuaKelly-cq8ol2 ай бұрын
What was that I wreakon that there’s a link between the 2 getting killed because people in boro hated him for having it with Geordies the same ones who viv fell out with ?? I don’t believe this bloke he’s had a few wacks to head since 80s a wreakon 😂😂