Frozen Kainen They did fight multiple times in Tales of Berseria. We got to see the promise that was made.

+Knowledgeseeker Of course; but it's funny lol.

Eizen did punch him. XD That was an awesome fight too. Total chaos. :D

Yup, but Edna can take care of herself. She’s tough.

He has multiple times

Codrian Drasil I'm glad we get to see him as a reoccurring character in Tales of Berseria. We get to see the origin of his issues with Shepherds and promise to Eizen.

Fight me Mickleo is

EDNA BIATCH!

Maybe this is one of the aspects that made Tales of Symphonia so popular; this was a decision that had some affect on the rest of the story and it encouraged multiple playthroughs to see everything. I typically play Tales games through at least twice, sometimes a fair bit more but much as I enjoy some things this game brings to the table (like armatizing), replayability is not one of its strong points. The way character replacement works here is not something more playthroughs adds to.

King X Yeah, it could be. I think Zelos and Kratos are pretty popular, so I guess people would replay to try it differently next time. Plus the relationship mechanic gives you different lines and scenes. Zestirira would definitely have more replayability if they'd done it in that style! As it is, I'm on my second PT now, and except for stuff I missed, it's all pretty much the same.

ok imagine this alisha is deemed a war criminal for the death of the general of humans and goes off on the lamb zaveid meets her, and decides to make her his vessel and boosting her resonance when dezel,is about to blast himself zaveid calls him ,a moron and does it instead upon being shot out like that zaveid finds himself to be human after the shot and zaveid gives them the story of what is to happen, zaveid undergoes the squire pact alongside alisha and become able to armatize and that is how I would change the cluster fuck of character development

Sadly it's becoming more like the old traditions. Phantasia- (Chester) Destiny- (Leon) Eternia- (Ras) Graces- (Richard [Original Wii] ) Symphonia- (you know it) Symphonia 2- (Richter) Abyss- (Ion [in form of Mystic Arte] ) Vesperia- (Flynn [XBox] ) Zestiria- (Alisha/Dezel) Berseria- (Seres [beginning only] )

KittyCat Except he doesn't betray you constantly.

@@knowledgeseeker4614 Instead he picks a fight with you multiple times before finally joining. I was worried he was this game's version of Ivar at first.

@Olivier Dubreuil-Gagnon 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Zaveid hits on anything remotely female - even when fighting female enemies, all his attack declarations turn into pickup lines (which makes fighting his crucible TOTALLY worth it). Lailah isn't special. Edna, though…Edna is quite special. Personally, I ship him with Edna. She's not ACTUALLY a child, after all, she just looks like one because she wants to.

Olivier Dubreuil-Gagnon To be fair, and spoilers below... He DID lose one lover already, after she became a Dragon. Methinks he’s trying to fill a void, in all honesty.

He could stand to cool off with that, tho.

@@Wandergirl108 Still looks and acts like a kid tho

Somethings to consider. 1. There's a dlc about the adventures of Alisha and Rose (and seraph gang). Probably about events after Sorey defeated the LoC. (I shall search for more information later). 2. ---SPOILERS--- Rose is suspected to be dead at the end of Zestiria (post-mid credit scene). Her two blades are at the grave. On the grave is etched "Numin" (not sure what that means but I'm starting to watch the playthrough of the game.

John Rey Well, you can't have fire stronger than water...though it works if it is ice...

Other times it's just opposites. They're weak against each other.

林振华 sometimes they are split, like in Pokémon, where ice and water are separated elements. Even though they should alway be together.

Zaveid gets payback time, in Zestiria, 1000 years after when they fight Eizen in dragon form.

They are both Shepards but have different personalities. Like how he is cool with Velvet but is willing to defeat other lords of calamity.

I think it's more about personality sorey is kind and pretty compasionate artorius is the complete opposite he sacrificed a little boy willing or not and tried to strip away everyone's emotions

Zaveid hated Artorius because the Abbey treated Malak as a tool and even turned some of them into a dragon. Meanwhile Sorey is treating anyone with compassion and kindness, and treats Seraphim as his friends.

+King X I suspect it's because you actually catch onto a lot of Dezel's tragic backstory and you see him struggling with it, trying to keep his distance while at the same time developing a tough-love affection for the others. Then they replace him with a "mysterious" womanizer and you see nothing really that makes Zaveid the way he is. If they'd gone through the trouble of building on Zaveid's past to give the players a legitimate reason why he /wanted/ to replace Dezel, then the affection for him might have grown. They don't even really go into how Dezel and Zaveid knew each other previously, which might have helped. But, since they didn't, you essentially have the asshole everyone knows and loves being replaced by an unknown who seems to think he's more important than he really is. All Zaveid gets is the distinction of being the 'hottie wind guy.' They don't give him any substance.

+Mama B yes exactly my point I actually thought of how they could have allowed zaveid to join what if he were either a light or dark seraph?

Well I like Zaveid a bit more than Dezel personally. But maybe that's because I first saw him in tales of Berseria.

@@Speeddemon105 I really like zavied,I liked him before berseria

As much as people rag on the Alisha deal they actually build up the whole arc around both Alisha and Rose quite well. Alisha is your typical princess who wants to help others. And the game always made a point that she barely had enough resonance to feel the seraph's presence and needed Sorey's help to hear them and later see them. It was obvious she lacked the qualification to be a Squire from the get go and Lailah even hints as such beforehand. And thematically Alisha is just Sorey without shepard powers. She wants to help others, she doesn't like killing and sees the world in black and white. Rose is the other perspective the game wanted to bring to the table. The idea that some people are irredeemable begins when you are joined by an assassin who then takes on the job of killing the Hellions that Sorey can't purify. While Sorey struggles with the idea of killing hellions, Rose has to swallow her pity and take on the role of putting them to rest. And the game eventually leads down the role that not everyone can be saved, not everyone is "pure", so the introduction of Rose and the Assassins was the start of the thematic.

what?!?!?

Nah he was going to give away her measurements

tales of the abyss luke vs asch

Imbecile, i mean one character that replaces other. Garr replaces Leon, Zelos replaces Kratos, Zaveid replaces Dezel.

wow you calling me an imbecile for no reason when your the real stupid one for putting vs instead of saying what u mean. think before u write this is why internet fights start for stupid reasons

I'm sorry... I just were mad that you didn't get the obvious...

how is it obvious u labeled each tales game with each rival going against each other when u said vs, there is no indication u left here stating that one character that replaces other :/

She specified Lailah uses wind-imbued paper.

Then do u think he ll do the same with the other with his staff?

+Robert Shepherd For Mikleo, it'd be more appropriate for him to use a weapon related to the fire element. Traditionally speaking, if you follow Edna's line of talk, Mikleo should be using a sword or dagger since they are forged through flames.

Mama B duh thats what im asking

Robert Shepherd Play the game and find out for yourself.

who?

@@trainhartnett709 I'm gonna assume you've only played Zestiria. Zelos Wilder and Moses Sandor from Tales of Symphonia and Tales of Legendia.

him and dezel, dezel can be funny too when it comes to animals

My favorite was "Shae Monyuroze" skit xD

Originals are not always the best, it's a matter of preference plain and simple.

Dan Scott and alisha > rose

zavied=dazel alisha=rose