Talking to Muslims About Christ | Mohammed Hijab & Jonathan Pageau | EP 297

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Jordan B Peterson

Jordan B Peterson

Күн бұрын

Dr Jordan B Peterson, Jonathan Pageau, and Mohammed Hijab discuss comparative religion, what is said about Islam versus what Islam has to say, and how the uncomfortable conversation - whether contentious or unnerving, is well worth having.
Mohammed Hijab is an author, comparative religionist, and philosopher of scripture. He is the co-founder of the Sapience Institute and is a researcher and instructor for the organization. He has a BA in Politics and a master’s degree in History. He has also acquired a second master’s in Islamic Studies from the School of Oriental and African Studies, as well as a third master’s degree in Applied Theology from the University of Oxford. Currently, he is working toward his PhD in Philosophy of Religion. Having completed Islamic seminary courses, he is one of very few Muslims who has been given formal permission to relay Islamic knowledge on selected Islamic fields, dealing with comparative, political, and theological issues. In his efforts, he has amassed a substantial following on KZfaq, aided in part by authoring books such as “The Scientific Deception of the New Atheists.”
Jonathan Pageau is a French-Canadian liturgical artist and icon carver, known for his work featured in museums across the world. He carves Eastern Orthodox and other traditional images and teaches an online carving class. He also runs a KZfaq channel dedicated to the exploration of symbolism across history and religion.
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(0:00) Coming up
(1:12) Intro
(4:16) Addressing “Message to Muslims”
(14:35) Colonial amnesia and the pattern of resentment
(15:19) Egyptian mythology and the bloodshed of the past
(21:49) Ignoring the voices of disunity
(27:53) Is there an ultimate purpose to life?
(35:42) The role of worship and ritual
(39:52) Unity is not the same as uniformity
(43:20) Belief at your own peril, deviation, and depression
(50:55) Islam recognizes Jesus, but not the son of god
(59:16) We don’t know what we don’t know
(1:08:40) Belief in word vs. belief in being
(1:10:17) Why do we connect with specific scripture?
(1:23:25) You are measured by how much you can endure
(1:26:01) Would Jordan Peterson consider becoming Muslim?
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@angelexterminatus9784
@angelexterminatus9784 Жыл бұрын
I`d like to thank my dad for busting my balls to learn english at the age of 8, because without that, I would have never gotten to experience conversations and knowledge like this.
@hannawurst6064
@hannawurst6064 Жыл бұрын
True love = the love of God! *God himself went to the cross for you out of love for you as a human being* Philippians 2:5-8
@rayzimmerman6740
@rayzimmerman6740 Жыл бұрын
@@hannawurst6064 Pauls letters to all and sunder, are not Christ speaking. Please let that sink in, and reflect.
@hannawurst6064
@hannawurst6064 Жыл бұрын
My friend don'tplay ignorant !! Because the fact is that the Koran writer didn't even know what Christians believe in! And if Paul1or anotherhas corruptet the Bible in the 1st century or not, it doesn't change the fact that according to the Koran Allah has no idea about Christianity and that in the 7th century!!!
@hannawurst6064
@hannawurst6064 Жыл бұрын
*Peter the apostle of Jesus himself confirms Paul's writings as Holy Scriptures!* 2 Peter 3:15 And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, 16 as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures.
@nested9301
@nested9301 Жыл бұрын
@@hannawurst6064 really ng
@workhard0807
@workhard0807 Жыл бұрын
Its amazing how much more effective talks like this are without an audience interrupting every 5 seconds
@srinivasaraorao1043
@srinivasaraorao1043 Жыл бұрын
It mean that when you appling logic mean itself you don't have holy sprit leading in you then it is difficult to understand God mahamad
@rohanrahman8138
@rohanrahman8138 Жыл бұрын
@@srinivasaraorao1043 Your understanding of Islam like a baby who understands science at the age of two. By the way We muslims don't believe Muhammed (S.A.W) is a God.
@hulchul8891
@hulchul8891 Жыл бұрын
@@rohanrahman8138 : Muhammad is not God but he came from the devil 👿. Muhammad is presently in hell and burning. Jesus Christ is King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Jesus Christ will judge on judgment day. Allah is a pagan moon god of the Kabba.
@rohanrahman8138
@rohanrahman8138 Жыл бұрын
​@@hulchul8891 Where did you get this information? CNN or Whatsapp University 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣? In today's world, education is very important, as I just realised from your comment. So have some coffee and read some books on Islam. I hope you listen for your own benefit.
@deborahstafford8850
@deborahstafford8850 Жыл бұрын
The “West” compared to what?? No “faith” on this planet damages or threatens freedom more than Islam. That’s my opinion and I’m ALLOWED to have it!!!! I’m not a person of ANY faith but can understand and support the opposition to it all!! Why are we still talking about this?!?. OMG!!!! Recognize our condition!!! Stop relating this to RELIGION!!! Please don’t speak of the problems humans have without considering the origin???…EMERGENCE of CONSCIOUSNESS???? !!!!!
@janelouisebriggs2999
@janelouisebriggs2999 2 ай бұрын
Constantly the muslim man is trying to convert Peterson whilst Jordan just wants an open conversation. Sooo much missunderstanding about the fig tree and Jesus. Oh how wonderful my Saviour is!!!
@ThoseRedPillGuys
@ThoseRedPillGuys Ай бұрын
There is a very reasonable explanation why Jesus cursed the fig tree even though it wasn’t the season for figs. Even before the season, fig trees produce little knobs which are eaten by a passerby. As the late renowned NT scholar F.F. Bruce noted: "The other miracle is the cursing of the barren fig tree (Mk. xi 12 ff.), a stumbling block to many. They feel that it is unlike Jesus, and so someone must have misunderstood what actually happened, or turned a spoken parable into an acted miracle, or something like that. Some, on the other hand, welcome the story because it shows that Jesus was human enough to get unreasonably annoyed on occasion. It appears, however, that a closer acquaintance with fig trees would have prevented such misunderstandings. ‘The time of the fig is not yet,’ says Mark, for it was just before Passover, about six weeks before the fully-formed fig appears. The fact that Mark adds these words shows that he knew what he was talking about. When the fig leaves appear about the end of March, they are accompanied by a crop of small knobs, called taqsh by the Arabs, a sort of fore-runner of the real figs. These taqsh are eaten by peasants and others when hungry. They drop off before the real fig is formed. But if the leaves appear unaccompanied by taqsh, there will be no figs that year. So it was evident to our Lord, when He turned aside to see if there were any of these taqsh on the fig-tree to assuage His hunger for the time being, that the absence of the taqsh meant that there would be no figs when the time of figs came. For all its fair foliage, it was a fruitless and a hopeless tree." (Bruce, Are The New Testament Documents Reliable? [Intervarsity Press; Downers Grove, Ill, fifth revised edition 1992], pp. 73-74; bold emphasis ours). Many people have already addressed the fig tree talking point of Muslims trying to refute Christians. Many have done this for hijab and his mates. He seemingly ignores it.
@xzss7029
@xzss7029 Ай бұрын
Nah it’s the other way around also Peterson is a terrible person and has lost a lot of respect due to the give em hell tweet
@iAMnycedagod
@iAMnycedagod Ай бұрын
Atleast learn the person’s name
@ruthlessready1748
@ruthlessready1748 Ай бұрын
@@xzss7029I’ll put my money on you being Muslim
@joekey8464
@joekey8464 26 күн бұрын
They got no clue about the Trinity..
@tomjosi742
@tomjosi742 5 ай бұрын
i had to google some of those words that Dr. Peterson was using. The way he was constructing his thoughts and finding the right words was quite amazing. It's better to listen to him for hours than to waste your time in nonsense stuffs that people talk which they they don't believe and also don't help you to grow as an individual. I was little disappointed in how the talk ended abruptly without the conclusion of his ideas. Thank you for captivating me in this hour and half talk without diverting my eyes elsewhere.
@maconis1
@maconis1 Ай бұрын
He's a goat! So flawless in his articulation.
@BreDawg714
@BreDawg714 Жыл бұрын
I am a uneducated American currently residing temporary in Dublin Ireland and I have long conversations with Pakistanis, Brazilians, Greeks,Romanians, YOU NAME IT! Point being most people from anywhere around the planet are willing to have interesting conversations of respect and abundance. Never believe the social media hate and divide.
@fatumaadam3067
@fatumaadam3067 Жыл бұрын
True
@Truthseiker87
@Truthseiker87 Жыл бұрын
If you want to debate islam let me know ;)
@Ziiphyr
@Ziiphyr Жыл бұрын
@@Truthseiker87 Yeah why was Muhammad possessed by a Djinn and his wife’s cousin told him it was the Angel Gabriel? Why was he unsure about his salvation if he is a Prophet of God?
@serbannicolau3489
@serbannicolau3489 Жыл бұрын
Ok. Any klingon, lately?
@readquranandlearnaboutisla592
@readquranandlearnaboutisla592 Жыл бұрын
Right
@hitmanl520
@hitmanl520 11 ай бұрын
I love that line. “I’m not going to say I’m here for tolerance, because tolerance means I know better than you but I will tolerate you”
@annychest718
@annychest718 11 ай бұрын
Yes I agree..I love that too.. but we're expected to tolerate all kinds of ideas we don't agree with because we don't want to be perceived as dictators.. God wants us to come to him by knowledge not by force This discussion is very inspirational
@freddyzarby3715
@freddyzarby3715 11 ай бұрын
Other than you not better than you
@BS-cc4ks
@BS-cc4ks 11 ай бұрын
Honestly though...what's wrong with saying that? No one believes what they believe because they think they are wrong. I think it is impossible to assume that you know better then someone else that has different ideas then you if, having met their ideas, you reject them. Better to tolerate people you think are wrong. Better TO tell them they are wrong if asked about it! Be honest about the disagreements, and teach the world to not be offended by assumptions everyone makes.
@tbpp6553
@tbpp6553 11 ай бұрын
Who said that here?
@TheDeviousMatt
@TheDeviousMatt 11 ай бұрын
Timestamp?
@markbolatete5325
@markbolatete5325 5 ай бұрын
By far one of the most tamed and finest conversations, and having Mohd Hijab behave is a sight to behold.
@ryojs4286
@ryojs4286 5 ай бұрын
^ Racist Translation: "Omg this brown ANIMAL is in a suit and a chair, now if only he could become a CIVILIZED CHRISTIAN CRUSADER NAZI He would have had my VOTTTTEEEEEE!"
@user-zx4ds8mt9b
@user-zx4ds8mt9b 4 ай бұрын
Understatement, about Hijab. Crude bugger😂
@Maynard-il1yj
@Maynard-il1yj 4 ай бұрын
Didn’t want to get Kathy Griffon’d
@TravelBandit
@TravelBandit 4 ай бұрын
Mohammad Hijab is a well-mannered and behaved individual, until provoked. You trying to paint him as something he honestly isnt. Not cool bro
@Maynard-il1yj
@Maynard-il1yj 4 ай бұрын
@@TravelBandit and then you twist what provocation is, either way his true color come out like everyone’s does when heat is in and it matters, uses his size to intimidate and his degrees to act knowing, but is a dunce., uses his own books has citations in debates lol 😂 just a salesman. Like many “religious me”?…. Dude goes places looking for fights, lol you’re trying to make him out to be something he ain’t.
@colottikid
@colottikid 2 ай бұрын
Greatest mind of possibly all of time sitting with a 3.99 human quran audiobook quoting scriptures for 2 hours. Beyond me how Dr. Peterson would show these men the time of day in 15 lifetimes let along one. Blessed these men are sitting in the same room. Blessed I am for coexisting with such a genius. God bless your heart, Dr. Peterson.
@saloona_
@saloona_ 20 күн бұрын
Peterson literally said its a good time right now not to state our (people of faith's) differences and yet you here are mocking Muslims and this clearly shows how ignorant you are. You were raised "correctly".
@colottikid
@colottikid 9 күн бұрын
@@saloona_ Not mocking muslims. I’m mocking theseee Muslims. And If I were personally Muslim, that last person I would want on the forefronts of discussion are these here Muslim gentlemen. Not one thing said made it passed 1 layer of reasoning, let the along the 10 layers that Dr. Peterson laid out in his rebuttals, willingly, just for the sake in indulgence of discussion. If this discussion went on any longer, Dr. Peterson would be 50-100 layers deep into the iceberg without anyone in that room, especially the muslims, able to comprehend anything being discussed. Hence why the muslim host came over to end the discussion. Hence why the video gets cut off with Dr. Peterson mid conversation. These Muslims were utterly dismantled and not smart enough to realize the embarrassment they should be experiencing inviting the literal smartest man alive to defend his religious position.
@irfanazemi8073
@irfanazemi8073 Жыл бұрын
This is how a debate should unfold literally and not screaming and interrupting one another and not be able to speak, this is education at its finest, just beautiful for the ears.
@azaloth4168
@azaloth4168 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. I noticed that only the people who know and are competent will debate without screaming at each other, but that's not always the case.
@hannawurst6064
@hannawurst6064 Жыл бұрын
*here YHWH says in the Old Testament he is the son who was pierced in a prophecy! 6th century before Jesus Christ* Zechariah 12,10 “And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit[1] of grace and supplication. They will look on[2] me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son.
@rsk5660
@rsk5660 Жыл бұрын
@@hannawurst6064 And again another scripture says "They shall look on HIM whom they have pierced."
@hannawurst6064
@hannawurst6064 Жыл бұрын
We see clearly! In John 19:37 "" "" You will look at the one you have pierced «" "" But you only look at one according to Zechariah 12:10 and that is YHWH !!! You only look at YHWH! So John 19:37 contradicts all newer versions of Zechariah 12:10 where another was pierced than YHWH !! YHWH speaks about this in Zechariah from his point of view and the apostles from the point of view of man! because you can see who you have pierced! And that's the one who says YOU LOOK AT ME !!! So the fact is YHWH says you look at ME !! And who are you looking at;). Exactly the one they pierced!
@hannawurst6064
@hannawurst6064 Жыл бұрын
My friend according to textual criticism, the matter is clear! According to Zechariah, YHWH was pierced! because the Christian writings of Zechariah and the confirmation text in John are the oldest sources that exist!
@Irfan87
@Irfan87 Жыл бұрын
I love how Jordan is completely open to talking and trying to understand anyone. More discourse like this is needed. Finding common ground.
@angelmartinelli9983
@angelmartinelli9983 Жыл бұрын
They shouldn't be here
@Ibn_Abdulaziz
@Ibn_Abdulaziz Жыл бұрын
He says that he wants peace, but then goes on to storm Al-Aqsa compound with that robot sounding apartheid tribesmen creature. Rather what he wants is perennialism among Muslims and zionism for them. Did this interview happen before or after his storming of Al-Aqsa? Look up the video.
@Ibn_Abdulaziz
@Ibn_Abdulaziz Жыл бұрын
Also he was banned from twitter for annoying a girl that became a man right? So what does think of christianity that claims God became a man? Did God transition into an apartheid tribesmen creature? Is that why he stormed Al-Aqsa compound due to his belief that God belongs to the apartheid tribesmen's ethnicity?
@moaydDrawing1
@moaydDrawing1 Жыл бұрын
he isn't really open if he says he won't embrace islam even if he was provided with the evidence.
@moaydDrawing1
@moaydDrawing1 Жыл бұрын
@A.b.s how am I a troll?
@MicBreezeOfficial
@MicBreezeOfficial 4 ай бұрын
One of the most powerful conversations I've ever gotten to listen to. Thank you!
@alainmaitre2069
@alainmaitre2069 2 ай бұрын
Are you theistic or not ?
@m.akif_khan
@m.akif_khan 9 күн бұрын
So what's your conclusion based on this conversation?
@icanwin365
@icanwin365 4 ай бұрын
I can't express how impactful this video has been for me.
@richardannaken
@richardannaken Жыл бұрын
Imagine if leaders from all walks of life and all religions could have intelligent, calm and respectful discussions like this each day how wonderful this world would be
@BrendaLee381
@BrendaLee381 Жыл бұрын
Respectfully, the Muslim was not calm. He was there to refute Christianity, and Mr. Peterson was there to discuss their common beliefs, but the Muslim kept saying he disagreed with almost everything that Peterson said.
@richardannaken
@richardannaken Жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with disagreeing with someone for whatever you believe. I’m a Christian in training, wasn’t raised as a Christian, didn’t go to church, didn’t know God, just started about 4 years ago. I listen to all view points. Because of my experience 4 years ago with God and things God has shown me these last few years I know Jesus is not only my savior but God. I live by 3 rules (and probably don’t do them well). First I love God first, All other humans second, and I try to apply the Fruit of the Spirit to every conversation and everything I do. Communication is extremely important whether we agree or disagree, otherwise we have issues, communication is not trying to better someone or change someone THAT IS God’s plan and job. I’m an old guy and God didn’t need to use me until I 60. Sorry for the long conversation.
@robotzcomix1462
@robotzcomix1462 Жыл бұрын
@@BrendaLee381 "disagree" are just a word for u to make him look bad? people have their own belief, perspectives, theory, and anthing that is different since we are human and by u mean disagree does'nt mean he is ignorant, he makes his points and eloborate it rather than being (like u) no offense. a man who did'nt like to be disagreed by.
@robotzcomix1462
@robotzcomix1462 Жыл бұрын
@@richardannaken no need to be sorry. it is admirable that u seek knowledge rather than be ignorant. i hope u can do research about muslims aswell it's quite interesting. A man that tolerate for anything protect nothing.
@pgpro8691
@pgpro8691 Жыл бұрын
They’ve got WAY too many ulterior motives involving making money to ever care to agree.
@suelambert4153
@suelambert4153 Жыл бұрын
Jordan Peterson is so open and humble. A man of integrity. Canadian government needs to appreciate and be proud of this man!
@Kirs..
@Kirs.. Жыл бұрын
Proud isn’t the best word, but yes they do need to appreciate who he is and what he has done. OR AT THE VERY LEAST give him some actual damn freedom of speech rights.
@-xDarkxGhostx-
@-xDarkxGhostx- Жыл бұрын
Luke 4 :24 And he said, Verily I say unto you, No prophet is accepted in his own country.
@TS-zd2ud
@TS-zd2ud Жыл бұрын
It is very easy to refute Islam! Because the God of Islam does not know that according to Christianity God incarnated True love = the love of God! *God himself went to the cross for you out of love for you as a human being* Philippians 2:5-8
@kennethkimbroug8087
@kennethkimbroug8087 Жыл бұрын
@@-xDarkxGhostx- good thing I have my muckers on.........lol
@mikestevens5512
@mikestevens5512 Жыл бұрын
A World wide treasure!!
@smacosta1314
@smacosta1314 Ай бұрын
Yes, much respect and appreciation for these speakers for their grace and civility. It is exemplary. I can’t help, however, but think that Hijab engages in this intellectual exchange with the predetermined purpose and motivation of arguing Islam to be the truer or superior faith and even attempting to corner, Peterson, by reason of the Islamic doctrinal challenge, into converting to Islam. I would’ve liked to hear more discussion on this topic
@mosef98
@mosef98 Ай бұрын
So, I think that's the whole point of it. To argue that Islam is the one true religion
@w.sommen5209
@w.sommen5209 6 күн бұрын
@@mosef98which is a pitie and of course not true
@ritagill4983
@ritagill4983 3 күн бұрын
Hijab should make a comparison list of Muhammed(PBU) and Jesus (The King of Heaven and Earth) lives based on the information which has given in almost all versions of Holy Quran and then decide with his full honesty and intellectual which is more true and divine, Jesus or Muhammed(PBUH). Then he should invite non Muslims to Islam. I salute the humility of Dr.Peterson who was not offended by his invitation to Islam.
@GretzkySanders
@GretzkySanders 13 күн бұрын
JP is amazing...thank God for him....thanks to youtube to be a platform that has allowed the world to receive his gifts. Ty to Mohammed Hijab for his courage, humility and kindness to host these 2 men.
@davec8117
@davec8117 Жыл бұрын
One of my best friends in the world, who died tragically a few months ago at the age of 41 was Muslim. I still cry every time I think of him. We were two opposites, yet…we were brothers. In the truest sense of the meaning. The debates we had were epic. But at the end of the day. We were brothers and and best friends. I miss that about him. What I would give to have him here to engage is this type of conversation again. This discussion should be cherished as a reminder that friendship and brotherhood transcends geography and faith.
@noormuzamil9850
@noormuzamil9850 Жыл бұрын
Wow
@jerkfacefuckasaurusrex328
@jerkfacefuckasaurusrex328 Жыл бұрын
It's early in the morning. It's too early to shed tears like this, Brother. But I am so sorry. I'm positive he is still keeping an eye on you. Being with you when you need him most. God Bless my friend. Go with the Father.
@abdulsalamghazal9127
@abdulsalamghazal9127 Жыл бұрын
may Allah grant him the highest level of Jannah, If I may suggest that as an honor to your friend (and brother) you keep searching for the truth and search deep please, no pressure, I feel that a lot of people don't search/read enough, they try and hit the surface and then they delay and ignore till it's too late, sorry my English is not that good, may Allah bless you.
@noormuzamil9850
@noormuzamil9850 Жыл бұрын
@@abdulsalamghazal9127 u
@noormuzamil9850
@noormuzamil9850 Жыл бұрын
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@That_One_Guy115
@That_One_Guy115 Жыл бұрын
“What you need most will be found where you least want to look” such a powerful quote
@LeoCody1
@LeoCody1 Жыл бұрын
Was this a debate or a lecture. That muslim dude wouldn't shut up.
@JimmyHoMaimai
@JimmyHoMaimai Жыл бұрын
@@LeoCody1 I don't trust this Hijab guy for some reason. Reminds me of this Hindus in India
@jillianlister3625
@jillianlister3625 Жыл бұрын
Point 1 is that Mummamod was born 600 years after Jesus Christ was crucified on the cross and both the old and New Testament had been around for all those years beforehand and so a lot of the Islamic book has so much of the holy bible within its pages or at least the shadow of God’s Word.
@hannawurst6064
@hannawurst6064 Жыл бұрын
It is very easy to refute Islam! Because the God of Islam does not know that according to Christianity God incarnated True love = the love of God! *God himself went to the cross for you out of love for you as a human being* Philippians 2:5-8
@ErraticFaith
@ErraticFaith Жыл бұрын
Islam is a driven oratory system in many instances (rather than idle discussion), so sometimes it can be mistaken for lecture due to the style of teaching. Nonetheless it's confidence is why it ended Christianity long ago in most places and left them with nothing but churches full of old losers. If you haven't noticed youth influencers are ALL Islamic. Be it Tiktok, or British majority influencers like Andrew Tate.
@fikertadesse1915
@fikertadesse1915 5 ай бұрын
After years, I watched this conversation again and I loved it more and more like wine stays in the barrel. both guys help us to enlighten the calmness of wisdom beyond the subject they want to embrass
@thomasblevins5787
@thomasblevins5787 2 күн бұрын
It’s only been a year bruv
@devinitimusic
@devinitimusic Ай бұрын
Watching Muhammed move when jordan moves shows his intense scrutiny of him. This was a more prevelent example of how intensly he was paying attention but it can often times be much less obvious. Another thing i noticed was the amount of vocalized agreements he had during the times when jordan would speak, "uh-huh, yeah, hmm," is an obvious display of his annoyance and his unwillingness to "listen to understand, and not listen to respond" Why is this happening and what does it mean? It means muhammed is being confrontational and is unwilling to learn. I saw some comments here who noticed this and indeed, muhamed came here to convince jordan he was right, not to have an actual conversation.
@BertisAU
@BertisAU 4 күн бұрын
The ego was on one side that's for sure.
@Nick-ky5yn
@Nick-ky5yn Жыл бұрын
This conversation could have gone on for 6 hours and still be fascinating.
@bonleofen
@bonleofen Жыл бұрын
Yeah totally. They barely scratched the surface.
@zccau2316
@zccau2316 Жыл бұрын
@@bonleofen Is there a part 2? It cut off halfway
@waleedaal
@waleedaal Жыл бұрын
@@zccau2316is there a part 2?
@bonleofen
@bonleofen Жыл бұрын
@@waleedaal sadly no. I think there could be some technical issues that couldn't record the last bit.
@hahahaha4133
@hahahaha4133 Жыл бұрын
Man I want more of Jordan and hijab honestly . They have interesting conversations
@mihhbfdunndgjmbfds
@mihhbfdunndgjmbfds Жыл бұрын
This is what the world needs. I appreciate Dr. Jordan Peterson, Jonathan and Mohammed Hijab sitting at the same table and having a Real Talk, to an extent in which they have talked in this video. We need more of this! Not only from these fine souls, that are in search and pursuit of remedy, but from many others.. on all levels. This is the way forward. Bless to all
@magnumopus1628
@magnumopus1628 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, mohammad Hijab is most certainly a "fine soul". You don't know much about him, do you?
@commandar88
@commandar88 Жыл бұрын
@@magnumopus1628 you think both are perfect human beings. Dont gas light
@positivegerald2199
@positivegerald2199 Жыл бұрын
@@commandar88 Hijab isn’t honest. He bashes the west constantly but lives in the west? He’s a hypocrite.
@pschutzer
@pschutzer Жыл бұрын
He’s a smoother moslem liar only . . .
@roberjohnsmith
@roberjohnsmith Жыл бұрын
@@commandar88 it's not about being perfect. This Hijab guy is open about his views about Pete do phelia and is very honest about apostates being killed. He apologizes for none of it, for which I am thankful for his honesty. Much better a snake wears it's own skin than coat itself with the wool of a sheep.
@annerose1972
@annerose1972 Ай бұрын
Jordon P. I thought your address to Islamist Muslims was a wonderful call for love and unity .. you were respectful and needed ..
@danpriest9299
@danpriest9299 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely brilliant talk, the world needs more of this, our religons have differences but it is possible to have healthly talks to further enlighten us all, god bless all 3 of you
@aaronpage8515
@aaronpage8515 29 күн бұрын
Don’t be fooled by the suit and tie. The majority of Muslims would support the Muslim right to enslave you, force you to convert, then kill you if you don’t. Islam isn’t the nexus of free speech and tolerance. Quite the opposite. It isn’t the religion of peace.
@anthonyhampton5904
@anthonyhampton5904 11 ай бұрын
What a wonderful discussion. I am Roman Catholic and I have many friends who are Muslim. We have been having similar conversations recently. These types of conversations are essential !!
@doridori4658
@doridori4658 11 ай бұрын
@@alexanderspear9464 I'ts so hard for me to grasp the level of your ignorance and others like you.
@cyanidecapsule6275
@cyanidecapsule6275 11 ай бұрын
@@alexanderspear9464 That’s a bold statement 😂 I’m not Christian but feel the need to say ‘Jesus’ to that
@Arthurian.
@Arthurian. 11 ай бұрын
​@@alexanderspear9464 exactly. No idea why people insist it's a religion capable of coinciding.
@nickidaisydandelion4044
@nickidaisydandelion4044 11 ай бұрын
I know that there are peaceful Muslims out there. What I find very disconcerting though are these Commandments from the Quran: Surah 2:191: "And kill them (non-Muslims) wherever you find them … kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers (non-Muslims)." Surah 9:5: "Then kill the disbelievers (non-Muslims) wherever you find them, capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush …" How can such a commandment be tolerated by anyone?
@Kyle_402
@Kyle_402 11 ай бұрын
@@cyanidecapsule6275 Read Nicki’s comment.
@G31mR
@G31mR Жыл бұрын
MH's willingness to let Dr. Peterson talk at length is MUCH appreciated.
@Seven_1865
@Seven_1865 Жыл бұрын
That’s a low bar but given his record it’s understandable.
@xGAMER_chimpX
@xGAMER_chimpX Жыл бұрын
Hijab failed to understand this strategy from JP thats how JP weaseled his way out of all the questions and constantly interrupted hijab Dishonest as expected
@jagoman85
@jagoman85 Жыл бұрын
@@xGAMER_chimpX JP Waffled and Waffled and Waffled and .....
@xGAMER_chimpX
@xGAMER_chimpX Жыл бұрын
@@jagoman85 he sure did.
@goldilocks913
@goldilocks913 Жыл бұрын
@@jagoman85 perhaps if you had understood more what he was saying it wouldn’t have been waffle?
@tr3n11
@tr3n11 Ай бұрын
I saw good human beings on both sides lending their ears to learn their differences. The world would be far better with many more people like them. I believe I belong more in the agnostic group but raised Catholic and I learned a lot about theology from both sides especially about the Quran from this discussion. All of them have done a great service to the world just by talking. Thank you gentlemen!
@protonjones54
@protonjones54 17 күн бұрын
Damn, unfortunate that video cuts off at the end. For shame that daily wire didn't include the last part of this interview on their website. That was an important line Peterson was on.
@pennyforbes6367
@pennyforbes6367 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely adore Dr. Jordan Peterson. He just doesn't speak to be heard he feels his words very deeply and I think we need more men like him
@theresaaa8346
@theresaaa8346 Жыл бұрын
I agree 🤗
@burakcoskun1865
@burakcoskun1865 Жыл бұрын
What do u mean by "speak"? What do u mean by "heard"? What do u mean by "feels"?
@shidoku7012
@shidoku7012 Жыл бұрын
​@@burakcoskun1865 what do you mean by "what"? what do you mean by "do"? what do you mean by "you"? what do you mean by "mean"? what do you mean by "by"?
@benyoung552
@benyoung552 Жыл бұрын
@@shidoku7012 😂
@slingitandflingitdiscgolf8340
@slingitandflingitdiscgolf8340 Жыл бұрын
I am a Christian who was raised Southern Baptist but now I am non-denominational. I've always had questions about faith and religion and how it correlates to mine or how it doesn't but here's where I'm stumped: In our Christian faith we are taught to honor our Mother & Father & so therefore in a lot of Christian households, we are taught about the Bible. So how can we look at other religions as being "wrong" whenever they likely had a similar way of adopting religion (through family)? I have met so many wonderful people from all different religions & it's incredibly hard to condemn someone for their religious beliefs because we can't even collectively define religion itself. Just to reiterate, I believe the Gospel but I would like someone from the Christian faith to explain to me how someone who was born Muslim and died Muslim who never knew Jesus will not be entering the Kingdom of Heaven??? Any thoughts on this would be welcomed.
@tonybinder9392
@tonybinder9392 Жыл бұрын
Imagine a world where our political leaders had conversations like this. Thank you JPB, Pageu, and Mohamad
@antonovromanov7412
@antonovromanov7412 Жыл бұрын
Kill the clowns 🤡 and replace them with logic
@robbiewhite8383
@robbiewhite8383 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if they were our politicians.
@parkerj1776
@parkerj1776 Жыл бұрын
@@robbiewhite8383 imagine if politicians weren’t all talking out of their ass..
@Dokumentarfilme
@Dokumentarfilme Жыл бұрын
@@robbiewhite8383 Jesus, no thx. this idiot Muhammad would oppose sharia.. and we will end up like in iran. No thx.
@OnlySubmitToAllah
@OnlySubmitToAllah Жыл бұрын
*Muhammad
@AKLTAXI
@AKLTAXI Ай бұрын
1.36 h of pure intellectual and faith bliss. Thank you all for sharing the gifts you've been blessed with!
@hamzaabbas2354
@hamzaabbas2354 2 ай бұрын
I had no idea Mohmmad hijab could be respectful and not insult someone's daugther.
@ThoseRedPillGuys
@ThoseRedPillGuys Ай бұрын
Give it 3 days he will relapse. He did.
@user-bp9jc5fj6t
@user-bp9jc5fj6t Ай бұрын
EXACTLY he's walking on egg shells around Jordan because he wants to be liked, he's an ass at heart nonetheless
@DivineLogos
@DivineLogos 21 күн бұрын
​@@user-bp9jc5fj6tHe insulted Jordan's daughter before this interview? If yes, could you link me the video?
@killafacevalue
@killafacevalue 15 күн бұрын
Hijab is practicing taquiya
@sandrapendleton85
@sandrapendleton85 Жыл бұрын
This is what happens when you have a difference of opinion, get heated, STAY in the room and LISTEN to the others WHY. Loved this.
@kingalaric4431
@kingalaric4431 Жыл бұрын
I'd argue that it wasn't even really "heated." They all seemed to enjoy the discourse
@ryojs4286
@ryojs4286 Жыл бұрын
What to study as well as Online Resources as new Muslims or even old ones Quran itself and the Sunnah. Old Scholars near that time 1. Sapiance Institute 2. Dr Zakir Naik lectures 3. IslamHouse 4. Ahmed Deedat 5. Islamqa info 6. Masjid Ribat channel by sheikh Uthman ibn Farooq 7. Blogging Theology 8. Smile2Jannah 9. MuslimSkeptic 10. Farid speaks gives good book recommendations 11. Check local mosques they sometimes have awesome books 12. Google islamic books and bookstores and get book recs by farid speaks. Conquest of the Sahaba by Al Imam Al waqidi is one Singular great videos 1. Hamza Tzortis vs Lawerence Krauss (4 million) 2. AustiN School, *"How Islam Saved the West",* *"Khalid Ibn walid profile of a Warrior"* (1.1 million) 3. Muslim, christian, jew a conversation (7 million views) 4. Mehdi Hassan, Islam is Peace (9.9 million views) F
@kimberlypearce3732
@kimberlypearce3732 Жыл бұрын
The 2 main differences between Christianity: 1) -Yeshua claimed to be (and in fact, is) God. -Mohammed's brother declared him to be a prophet. 2) -Yeshua instructed His followers to spread the gospel by simply telling everyone, not by force. - Mohammed set the example for his followers by leading them in rampages across Arabia, killing some and making slaves of others who refused to convert.
@ryojs4286
@ryojs4286 Жыл бұрын
@@kimberlypearce3732 ^ *forgets colonialism, nazis, kkk, crusaders, americans and russian nazis in the Muslim lands genocidin* Also atheists *Uyghur genocide, stalin, and Mao, Nanking*
@hannawurst6064
@hannawurst6064 Жыл бұрын
*Who explains to us why the Koran says Christians believe God has a biological son!* To all Muslims! Son of God means NOT SON! What is called the son of God is the word of God = god himself! Which has nothing to do with a child (son)! Thus, the Son of God is incarnated as the human Jesus and the human Jesus is therefore referred to as a son, which does not mean a son!
@JayTalksinjury
@JayTalksinjury 11 ай бұрын
Like i just told my son today ,"Always be willing to hear both sides of an argument and never let the conversation break down . As a society, we really do depend on each other, and it's taken centuries to get here !" ❤😊
@MURDANA_
@MURDANA_ 10 ай бұрын
I’m glad people instill this in themselves and their families. It’s quite beautiful in a world of chaos. I do have to note though that conversation does tend to break down still but there’s absolutely still hope.
@MURDANA_
@MURDANA_ 10 ай бұрын
Wish you two the best in life ❤
@sarahloffler
@sarahloffler 10 ай бұрын
That is the very skill that has disappeared from universities: debate, discussion, apologetics, conversation. The whole reason for the existence of universities and town halls- inquiry, examination, development of new and better ways to conduct modes and methods of exploration- has been dispensed with only to have been replaced with myopic and soul-crushing oppression and ideological dogma. KZfaq is the new university, and it, too, is slowly being eroded.
@noorshire1977
@noorshire1977 10 ай бұрын
i agree 💯
@Ayd1th
@Ayd1th 10 ай бұрын
actually conversations like these and inter-faith debates used to happen in the Islamic golden age.
@tinaari88
@tinaari88 28 күн бұрын
Jordan’s ability and presence to turn a vicious dog into a lamb is overwhelming! never seen momo be so respectful ! 👏🏼
@catalinchelbea8739
@catalinchelbea8739 25 күн бұрын
Right. Maybe becouse he cannot pride himself with his intelligence over JP. Also I will argue his intelligence is just big words with 0 knowledge. And second it might be that JP has higher audience and that can work in his favor. Gaining some followers
@Closelyreversed
@Closelyreversed 25 күн бұрын
It is shameful to answer Your Worst and dishonourable comment but I wanna say that Muhammad is a very Intelligent and Polite person, this 1 hour and 30 minutes proves that!! But He is polite with Jordan like Persons not like you, Those who can't answer or prove him wrong always claim that He is disrespectful🥱
@catalinchelbea8739
@catalinchelbea8739 25 күн бұрын
@@Closelyreversed maybe you should search siig,david and Bob debating him on speakers corner. He gets defensive and insults them when when he have no answer. But have it your way. Proof will stil not change your mind.
@zu1502
@zu1502 24 күн бұрын
Seems like tour just islamaphobic lol. Islam is the truth and the only truth .
@sporkcunt8100
@sporkcunt8100 24 күн бұрын
@@Closelyreversedfirst of all Muhammad couldn’t read or write also didn’t he use god as a excuse to rape a 9 year old girl might wanna do more research on Muhammad
@delsere7095
@delsere7095 5 ай бұрын
I'm surprised by how unconfrontational Mohammed Hijab was, and how comfortable Jordan Peterson was. Mohammed Hijab posed some really good questions and criticisms, but at every turn he projects excessive confidence and pride which makes him difficult to listen to. That said, I still very much appreciated this conversation, and specifically the tough questions that Mohammed Hijab asked.
@Elaine-ut7qq
@Elaine-ut7qq Жыл бұрын
To be sitting in my living room and as a Christian in the US and listening to this amazing give and take conversation with Jordan, Mohammad Hijab and Jonathan on their religions is so heart warming. Having real conversations is what is going to help us all to live and work together as well as learn to respect one another for our differences. God Bless all of you all.
@hzjc9680
@hzjc9680 Жыл бұрын
Basic Islam (*eg allah+Mohd+black stone…): 1. You have to believe in allah and equate a man by the name Mohammad next to him - idolatry; 2. You have to pray toward a rock that has a black stone in it - idolatry; 3. You have to give charity only to Muslim causes. You are not to support other causes. - But you claim Islam is a religion of peace and mercy. What a joke! 4. You have the fasting but when people cannot fast during the month, you pay somebody to fast on your behalf, and you earn righteousness! - But you deny what Christ Jesus did for you on the cross and His resurrection so that believers can get His righteousness (Rom4:25); 5. You go on perform the pilgrimage, but we heard what happened to the women (*being sexually abused) at the “holey place”. - Al Fadi
@hzjc9680
@hzjc9680 Жыл бұрын
Jeremiah9:24but let him who boasts boast in this, that he understands and knows me, that I am the LORD who practices steadfast LOVE, justice, and righteousness in the earth. For in these things I delight, declares the LORD.”
@KingBugsBunny
@KingBugsBunny Жыл бұрын
@@hzjc9680 1- Yes, you have to believe in Allah and his messenger Mohammed(PBUH) and he is just a messenger and a prophet we do not consider him equal to Allah. 2- We pray towards the Kaaba and not worship the Kaaba, before our direction was changed to Kaaba the Mohammed (PBUH) and the Muslims at that time used to face Al-Aqsa Masjid which is in Jurusalem, and then Allah commanded them to face the Kaaba. 3-Muslims are not prohibited from giving charity to anyone unless they’re fighting against us. 4- You’re wrong again, someone cannot fast in your stead even if you pay them, you have to fast yourself and if you’re unable to because you’re traveling, sick, on menstrual cycle etc you make up for that fast by fasting in another month for how many fasts you missed and if you’re old, have a condition that makes you unable to fast because it puts you in danger you don’t have to fast instead you feed 1 person per day for how many fasts you missed, e.g you didn’t fast for 29 or 30 days in Ramadan you feed 29 or 30 people total 1 per day. 5- People who do atrocious acts like that when they’re at the holy place are the scum of earth and don’t fear Allah That rarely happens. Where did you even get your information from? I’d like to know because wow everything you said is wrong
@KingBugsBunny
@KingBugsBunny Жыл бұрын
@@hzjc9680 you say the Jesus died for our sins, why? He could have just forgiven us if he’s god. How can god die?
@xSabir-hc7wj
@xSabir-hc7wj Жыл бұрын
@@KingBugsBunny i dont think he is serious, just a hater. Most likely from america
@LeeD-ou7jy
@LeeD-ou7jy Жыл бұрын
The Viktor Frankl book that Mohammed Hijab is referencing is called “Man’s search for Meaning”, and it’s one of the most important books I’ve read. Highly recommend it.
@oak8891
@oak8891 Жыл бұрын
I will second this, incredible book
@youthoo
@youthoo Жыл бұрын
Third
@matthewauberger8203
@matthewauberger8203 Жыл бұрын
Fourth! Changed the manner in which I view life.
@tadija007
@tadija007 Жыл бұрын
Dr Peterson mentioned this book few years ago, certainly one of the best books he's recommending
@LeeD-ou7jy
@LeeD-ou7jy Жыл бұрын
@@tadija007 He did, this motivated me to read it. I'm sure it's listed on his website too, alongside many other superb books.
@shentallfournier
@shentallfournier 19 күн бұрын
I love intellectual conversations that make you think about different views and reshape some of your thoughts. I like when different background people debate about “white elephants in the room” subjects. Life is bigger than us. We all come from the same source. It’s about time we start seeing what unites us ❤
@TraceyMariexx
@TraceyMariexx 13 күн бұрын
Is there a part 2 to this discussion? This is the Mohammed I love to listen to when he isn't allowing his emotions guide his intellect.. Such a great mind he has. As for Jordan, what can I say. He's a 21st century prophet of intellect. I'd also like to thank them both for coming to the table with a desire to respect the content and eachother with no desire to conquer either.
@sawsanzerarka5655
@sawsanzerarka5655 Жыл бұрын
I'm a Muslim, and this is the first time I hear Dr, Jordan speaking. And oh boy, he one of a character and thinker! And it was such an enjoyable talk between the three ❤️. I was moved when Dr, Jordan almost cryed at the end. I'm waiting for another talk like this in the future insha Allah ❤️
@ADB-jd9if
@ADB-jd9if Жыл бұрын
Do not be fooled by his symmetrical face and beautiful artculation. He is a Hypocrites and Zionist
@4cymusic785
@4cymusic785 Жыл бұрын
Associating with you fools is what's going to bring JBP down. It's not the gender debate, not the climate change. It's associating with this dude Hijab who's on video asking a group of people to attack non-believers.
@JMJ-rb2ze
@JMJ-rb2ze Жыл бұрын
What do you think about quran 4:171? Jesus a WORD Himself became Flesh and dwelt amongst us is God❤
@patriciakeats1621
@patriciakeats1621 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t watch yet, but I will. I’m not religious, and I don’t believe in god. I believe in humanity, and goodness within. I think that is what we should pay reverence to. I also believe we are one big family, and our differences are just outwardly. We are all brothers, and sisters. I don’t need any other teaching, because goodness lives in my heart, and I’m trying to not be afraid of dying. I believe our only chance in life is the present. I believe when we die, we simply go back to our elemental earth. There is no saviour. We waste time in that belief, and fight amongst ourselves…FOR NOTHING, and certainly not for good.
@JMJ-rb2ze
@JMJ-rb2ze Жыл бұрын
@@patriciakeats1621 Forget Family and all! You by yourself will stand on the day of judgement! Goodness is God and the Righteousness is God! There is a light there is a darkness so similarly, If there is good then theres evil! And evil is contrary to God! Believe in Jesus Christ and be saved get baptized!
@ethanshepard8608
@ethanshepard8608 Жыл бұрын
One quote that sums the whole conversation "Stop asking if I believe in God; watch me." -Pageau
@a4482921
@a4482921 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. The word “Iman” in Islam, which is often incompletely translated as “faith” or “belief”, actually encompasses faith in the heart, affirmation with the tongue and manifestation in action. Without all components, one’s “Iman” is considered incomplete.
@dianakhayal7816
@dianakhayal7816 Жыл бұрын
@@a4482921 great reminder, but it shows it should be on all levels.. because the real intention is so important for why a person doing what he is doing.. is it fame, power, wealth, satisfy getting attention, need to feel important, satisfy his mom or doing good (but what better than goodness that our creater is asking us to do ) thats how I see it.. but eventually the only one know our real intention is our creator who knows what in our hearts
@AndreasGautier
@AndreasGautier 15 күн бұрын
It was lovely to see the spirit in which this debate took place..... there is hope after all
@rablaze
@rablaze Жыл бұрын
I do love the way they find pockets of moments to laugh, joke and bring levity in their discussion of serious topics. Laughter definitely brings people together
@Safe-and-effective
@Safe-and-effective Жыл бұрын
Sure. Tell that to the Charlie Hebdo staff.
@zccau2316
@zccau2316 Жыл бұрын
@@Safe-and-effective Oh no the internet c*nt is back here again. As Hijab said say that to the 5 million Algerians murdered by the french
@Safe-and-effective
@Safe-and-effective Жыл бұрын
@@zccau2316 Ooh, justifying muslim terrorism. Let me guess...you're a moderate, right?
@solaveritas2
@solaveritas2 Жыл бұрын
@Mosaab twice Why do you call the American Army Christians? Dont' you know what being Christan means? Being American doesn't equal Christian. Christians are NOT responsible for dead children.
@solaveritas2
@solaveritas2 Жыл бұрын
@Mosaab twice You sound very confused. Christianity is the religion, western states don't have a religion, they have a separation of church and state. When America attacks another country, it has nothing to do with Christianity. When European nations go to war, it's not a Christian war. Christianity does not teach killing people. Anyone who does that, is not a Christian.
@shannonm.4087
@shannonm.4087 11 ай бұрын
I met a wonderful friend in college, and was blessed to have a similar type conversation with her, in private. She is black, I am white. We were close enough to ask each other every question about the differences we have experienced without embarressment, shame, or mincing words. She remains a blessing in my life. I understand so much more now...
@ghostrider2664
@ghostrider2664 11 ай бұрын
If we all had that, itd be the end of racism in this country.
@pavijan
@pavijan 11 ай бұрын
Can I take to dinner both of you?
@Darkseidsolosfiction
@Darkseidsolosfiction 11 ай бұрын
​@@ghostrider2664 yeah if you want to stop the racism stop separating black/white people and all those ,, representation " shit are bullshit
@alexanderspear9464
@alexanderspear9464 11 ай бұрын
What was the subject matter? Fried chicken and looting ? You must have gained so much enlightenment from a people with an average IQ of 85.
@passivelyike
@passivelyike 11 ай бұрын
Still friends?
@Brendatalks963
@Brendatalks963 Ай бұрын
In the silence all is revealed. So many words bring confusion and anger. Each fighting to win. Only God wins. „”Be Still and Know I Am God”
@AlMawridHind
@AlMawridHind 5 күн бұрын
“At extreme levels, entitlement is a toxic narcissistic trait, repeatedly exposing people to the risk of feeling frustrated, unhappy, and disappointed with life,” said Joshua Grubbs, the primary author of the paper and a recent Ph.D. graduate from Case Western Reserve.
@thenaomimike
@thenaomimike Жыл бұрын
I am a Christian and have visited many Muslim countries I.e Jordan - Palestine- Egypt - Morrocco - Pakistan - Algeria - kula Lumpur- Kuwait and have had many conversations I feel so at home there and most of my best friends are Muslim ' some of us can't speak each other's language 'still very close ' translators/text. Really loved this video and it's true that we are very similar and get a long good . Just the media makes it like we are enemies - Don't take my word for it just travel and you will see for yourself .I have the up most respect for all my brothers ...
@borneandayak6725
@borneandayak6725 Жыл бұрын
We certainly not enemy in humanity, but we Christian are the enemy of demons who create Islam, Sunni and Shia wicked religion.
@RubberTag
@RubberTag Жыл бұрын
The only way to the father is through Jesus Christ!
@knightara
@knightara Жыл бұрын
@@RubberTag Ok to you is your religion and to me is mine! That doesn’t mean we can’t respect each other as humans.
@mnlawncare5128
@mnlawncare5128 Жыл бұрын
@@knightara Unfortunately for an extremely massive amount of the population of both communities you Mentioned There's plenty of reasons. If you actually interpret the word as the word of God and/or It's Allah to be literal in its interpretation then From the Christian perspective all muslims will burn in hell for eternity and all christians need to die as an infidel should
@mnlawncare5128
@mnlawncare5128 Жыл бұрын
Most people that have the views of what you're saying cherry pick from their religion and believe and don't believe What it is they feel like it's ridiculous how many people that are religious have never actually read through the text and we're just indoctrinated at a young age and told I mean of course If God is all forgiving that even if you do screw up you can always come back so just live your life how you want I mean it's so contradictory and ignorant
@kamcobbe
@kamcobbe Жыл бұрын
Every few minutes into watching this conversation I kept feeling compelled to liking the video, just to realize once again that I had already done so!
@ettaibabdelali6675
@ettaibabdelali6675 Жыл бұрын
Allah Glory to him said:”Those who say, “Allah is the Messiah, son of Mary,” have certainly fallen into disbelief. The Messiah ˹himself˺ said, “O Children of Israel! Worship Allah-my Lord and your Lord.” Whoever associates others with Allah ˹in worship˺ will surely be forbidden Paradise by Allah. Their home will be the Fire. And the wrongdoers will have no helpers.-72-Those who say, “Allah is one in a Trinity,” have certainly fallen into disbelief. There is only One God. If they do not stop saying this, those who disbelieve among them will be afflicted with a painful punishment.-73-Will they not turn to Allah in repentance and seek His forgiveness? And Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.-74- The Messiah, son of Mary, was no more than a messenger. ˹Many˺ messengers had ˹come and˺ gone before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They both ate food.1 See how We make the signs clear to them, yet see how they are deluded ˹from the truth˺!-75- Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “How can you worship besides Allah those who can neither harm nor benefit you? And Allah ˹alone˺ is the All-Hearing, All-Knowing.”-76- Say, “O People of the Book! Do not go to extremes in your faith beyond the truth, nor follow the vain desires of those who went astray before ˹you˺. They misled many and strayed from the Right Way.”-77- The disbelievers among the Children of Israel were condemned in the revelations of David and Jesus, son of Mary. That was for their disobedience and violations.-78- They did not forbid one another from doing evil. Evil indeed was what they did!-79- You see many of them taking the disbelievers1 as allies. Truly wicked are their misdeeds, which have earned them Allah’s wrath. And they will be in everlasting torment.-80- Had they believed in Allah, the Prophet, and what has been revealed to him, they would have never taken those ˹pagans˺ as allies. But most of them are rebellious-81- You will surely find the most bitter towards the believers to be the Jews and polytheists and the most gracious to be those who call themselves Christian. That is because there are priests and monks among them and because they are not arrogant.-82- When they listen to what has been revealed to the Messenger, you see their eyes overflowing with tears for recognizing the truth. They say, “Our Lord! We believe, so count us among the witnesses.-83- Why should we not believe in Allah and the truth that has come to us? And we long for our Lord to include us in the company of the righteous.”-84-So Allah will reward them for what they said with Gardens under which rivers flow, to stay there forever. And that is the reward of the good-doers.-85-“ Al-Maida Al Quran Al-Kareem
@ettaibabdelali6675
@ettaibabdelali6675 Жыл бұрын
In the name of Allah the most gracious the most merciful Allah Glory to him said: Indeed, Allah chose Adam, Noah, the family of Abraham, and the family of Imrân [father of Mary] above all people. -33- They are descendants of one another. And Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing. -34- ˹Remember˺ when the wife of ’Imrân said, “My Lord! I dedicate what is in my womb entirely to Your service,1 so accept it from me. You ˹alone˺ are truly the All-Hearing, All-Knowing.” -35-When she delivered, she said, “My Lord! I have given birth to a girl,”-and Allah fully knew what she had delivered-“and the male is not like the female. I have named her Mary, and I seek Your protection for her and her offspring from Satan, the accursed.”-36- So her Lord accepted her graciously and blessed her with a pleasant upbringing-entrusting her to the care of Zachariah. Whenever Zachariah visited her in the sanctuary, he found her supplied with provisions. He exclaimed, “O Mary! Where did this come from?” She replied, “It is from Allah. Surely Allah provides for whoever He wills without limit.”-37- Then and there Zachariah prayed to his Lord, saying, “My Lord! Grant me-by your grace-righteous offspring. You are certainly the Hearer of ˹all˺ prayers.”-38- So the angels called out to him while he stood praying in the sanctuary, “Allah gives you good news of ˹the birth of˺ John who will confirm the Word of Allah and will be a great leader, chaste, and a prophet among the righteous.”-39- Zachariah exclaimed, “My Lord! How can I have a son when I am very old and my wife is barren?” He replied, “So will it be. Allah does what He wills.” -40- Zachariah said, “My Lord! Grant me a sign.” He said, “Your sign is that you will not ˹be able to˺ speak to people for three days except through gestures. Remember your Lord often and glorify ˹Him˺ morning and evening.”-41- And ˹remember˺ when the angels said, “O Mary! Surely Allah has selected you, purified you, and chosen you over all women of the world. -42- O Mary! Be devout to your Lord, prostrate yourself ˹in prayer˺ and bow along with those who bow down.”-43- This is news of the unseen that We reveal to you ˹O Prophet˺. You were not with them when they cast lots to decide who would be Mary’s guardian, nor were you there when they argued ˹about it˺.-44- ˹Remember˺ when the angels proclaimed, “O Mary! Allah gives you good news of a Word1 from Him, his name will be the Messiah,2 Jesus, son of Mary; honoured in this world and the Hereafter, and he will be one of those nearest ˹to Allah˺.-45- And he will speak to people in ˹his˺ infancy and adulthood and will be one of the righteous.” -46- Mary wondered, “My Lord! How can I have a child when no man has ever touched me?” An angel replied, “So will it be. Allah creates what He wills. When He decrees a matter, He simply tells it, ‘Be!’ And it is! -47- And Allah will teach him writing and wisdom, the Torah and the Gospel,-48- and ˹make him˺ a messenger to the Children of Israel ˹to proclaim,˺ ‘I have come to you with a sign from your Lord: I will make for you a bird from clay, breathe into it, and it will become a ˹real˺ bird-by Allah’s Will. I will heal the blind and the leper and raise the dead to life-by Allah’s Will. And I will prophesize what you eat and store in your houses. Surely in this is a sign for you if you ˹truly˺ believe. -49- And I will confirm the Torah revealed before me and legalize some of what had been forbidden to you. I have come to you with a sign from your Lord, so be mindful of Allah and obey me. -50- Surely Allah is my Lord and your Lord. So worship Him ˹alone˺. This is the Straight Path.’” -51- When Jesus sensed disbelief from his people, he asked, “Who will stand up with me for Allah?” The disciples replied, “We will stand up for Allah. We believe in Allah, so bear witness that we have submitted.” -52- ˹They prayed to Allah,˺ “Our Lord! We believe in Your revelations and follow the messenger, so count us among those who bear witness.” -53- And the disbelievers made a plan ˹against Jesus˺, but Allah also planned-and Allah is the best of planners.-54- ˹Remember˺ when Allah said, “O Jesus! I will take you1 and raise you up to Myself. I will deliver you from those who disbelieve, and elevate your followers above the disbelievers until the Day of Judgment. Then to Me you will ˹all˺ return, and I will settle all your disputes. -55- As for those who disbelieve, I will subject them to a severe punishment in this life and the Hereafter, and they will have no helpers. -56- And as for those who believe and do good, they will be rewarded in full. And Allah does not like the wrongdoers.” -57- We recite ˹all˺ this to you ˹O Prophet˺ as one of the signs1 and ˹as˺ a wise reminder. -58- Indeed, the example of Jesus in the sight of Allah is like that of Adam. He created him from dust, then said to him, “Be!” And he was! -59- This is the truth from your Lord, so do not be one of those who doubt. -60- }} Al-Imaran Al-Quran Al-Kareem
@privateaccount12312
@privateaccount12312 28 күн бұрын
Very wonderful dialogue and the types of conversations we should all strive to have with each other
@W1llbam
@W1llbam 3 ай бұрын
Mohammed Hijab really did an excellent job asking questions here to Jordan, I definitely learnt a lot from these questions, and I say this as a European Christian.
@MuhammadKhan-vj8xn
@MuhammadKhan-vj8xn 6 ай бұрын
People of faith need to talk to each other directly like this.
@terradargana3301
@terradargana3301 6 ай бұрын
Is Peterson a man of faith ? I don’t think so - always patronizing from his ivory tower of self right dictation
@alainmaitre2069
@alainmaitre2069 2 ай бұрын
Faith in what ?
@campbellsjournal6537
@campbellsjournal6537 2 ай бұрын
He’s a Christian
@hmu05366
@hmu05366 2 ай бұрын
@@terradargana3301I think he has a lot of respect for the British style reformations - Scottish and English Presbyterianism. And how influential it has been on western culture etc
@wake-upwednesdaypodcast
@wake-upwednesdaypodcast Ай бұрын
Check out exodus
@redietteffera7086
@redietteffera7086 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Jonathan Pageau!! I see Christ in you through your humility of letting others speak first! James 1:19 "Let every person be quick to hear and slow to speak"
@saifulmahin1700
@saifulmahin1700 Жыл бұрын
Love him❤
@saifulmahin1700
@saifulmahin1700 Жыл бұрын
Love him❤
@Featherfinder
@Featherfinder Жыл бұрын
@@AC-mp7cx I care when people interrupt during a conversation. Who does NOT care? Conversations should be civil ..and a rule of civil discourse is: Do not interrupt.
@JackDSquat
@JackDSquat Жыл бұрын
@@Featherfinder he needed to interrupt to call MH on his bs
@coryrakatau4656
@coryrakatau4656 2 ай бұрын
Hence why God gave us 2 ears and one mouth lol
@rossrowley
@rossrowley 3 ай бұрын
This side of Hijab I really respect. A relaxed, and respectful conversation I think is the most important discourse we can have.
@zaraki942
@zaraki942 2 ай бұрын
Hijab has always been respectful to people who’re respectful.
@kims144
@kims144 2 ай бұрын
He knows how to read his opponent. Aggression would not have helped him here. But deep down, he is what he manifests most of the time.
@MrHammerman97
@MrHammerman97 21 күн бұрын
It's cause Peterson isn't a jew. Hijab goes barbaric when a jew debates him.
@Spicy_Sweet_Chili_Doritos
@Spicy_Sweet_Chili_Doritos 19 күн бұрын
Hijab is always respectful???😂😂😂. Bro literally threatened peoples lives and has said MANY sexual things about women and minors.
@user-yo9oe5jk2m
@user-yo9oe5jk2m 17 күн бұрын
@@zaraki942tell me you are joking
@leonorcraveiro-ld6pz
@leonorcraveiro-ld6pz 2 ай бұрын
I love Jordan Peterson’s passion, intelligent clear mind, as for M Hijab, he kept on repeating the Quran for ever
@slim1one
@slim1one Жыл бұрын
I am an Orthodox Christian and this is the first time I've heard of Jonathan Pageau. I'm on my way to his youtube channel now to learn more.
@Dense197
@Dense197 Жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ was son of god 😂😂 lmao
@David-kz2im
@David-kz2im Жыл бұрын
His videos on symbolism are great.
@delmanorshun2471
@delmanorshun2471 Жыл бұрын
@@Dense197 Nope! Read how the Prophet of Allah arranges weddings 👇 Sahih Muslim 1438a Abu Sirma said to Abu Sa'id al Khadri (Allah he pleased with him): OAbu Sa'id, did you hear Messenger of Allah ﷺ mentioning al-'azl? He said: Yes, and added: We went out with Messenger of Allah ﷺ on the expedition to the Bi'l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing 'azl (Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid-conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah's Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him? So we asked Allah's Mes- senger ﷺ, and he said: It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born.
@firmbiz000
@firmbiz000 Жыл бұрын
Jonathan Pageau has helped me immensely on diving deeper into my Orthodox faith.
@Amrityuvraj
@Amrityuvraj Жыл бұрын
@@Dense197 I think we shouldn't talk about that here
@vincentjemhia5683
@vincentjemhia5683 6 ай бұрын
This is the most intense yet calm and respectful talk I've ever seen
@aryafaaz9345
@aryafaaz9345 6 ай бұрын
Kudos to Mohammed Hijab 🎉🎉🎉👍👏 He is intelligent & eloquent with an exceptionally high level of Emotional Quotient. His perspective is extremely grounded , level-headed , highly rational , focussed , organised & systematic. I was a fan of Jordan Peterson so I do respect him & his ideas. For this video , unfortunately & disappointedly , every time he goes on his elongated tangent to a simple & straightforward question , I cannot help but visualise him ... In a toga , floating around among the clouds , flitting from cloud to cloud & holding a harp but not playing it ....BECAUSE .... he does not know how to play it ‼️ He is merely holding the harp for CLOUT AMONG THE CLOUDS ‼️‼️‼️🤦‍♀️ Sad to say , this makes him look like .... An EMPTY CAN .... MAKING THE MOST NOISE ‼️‼️‼️🤦‍♀️
@davidherr2592
@davidherr2592 6 ай бұрын
@@aryafaaz9345your bias is showing. 😂🔥👍
@GsQDoom
@GsQDoom 6 ай бұрын
@@aryafaaz9345 Would it be more accurate if you said "I could not follow what Jordan Peterson was speaking about?" Surely, you're making a lot of noise yourself, you know?
@Furueru
@Furueru 6 ай бұрын
@@aryafaaz9345 Dude, that's not a football game. Get that 'my team vs. the other team' Hype out of here.
@vanguard8889
@vanguard8889 5 ай бұрын
Hmmm, shall we guessyour identity based on your biases?
@RobertReg1
@RobertReg1 4 ай бұрын
Good talk. Thanks to all involved.
@mikaylmehtab2188
@mikaylmehtab2188 5 ай бұрын
Jonathan Peterson and Md Hijab are the two most intelligent people I've come across. Keep it up gentleman. I'm a Muslim but always welcome healthy conversation and there is a need at this moment of time, to discuss, review, therefore understand thy neigbour more than ever and live side by side in harmony. Conversation is the key word. !!❤
@kevinq6628
@kevinq6628 5 ай бұрын
Try again lol
@ShahrukhKhan-un4hj
@ShahrukhKhan-un4hj 5 ай бұрын
​@@kevinq6628I think you should find out why your father left.
@ryojs4286
@ryojs4286 4 ай бұрын
Mohammed Hijab is, Peterson is not
@campbellsmith3711
@campbellsmith3711 3 ай бұрын
@@ryojs4286Mohammed hijab is literally one of the least intelligent people I have ever seen in an academic setting. He is a joke and portray’s Islam in a bad light
@thertslover
@thertslover 3 ай бұрын
@@ryojs4286 He's dedicated his life to a fictional cult, so I think not.
@HVACRSTRONJAY
@HVACRSTRONJAY Жыл бұрын
As a christain I have made respect for all 3 of you. This was a FASCINATING discussion such professional people politely disagreeing and having the most intelectual discussions. BRAVO
@StallionFernando
@StallionFernando Жыл бұрын
What do you think of the Muslim world wiew? Will they see heaven?
@veronicaredeemed
@veronicaredeemed Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry you don't know Mr Hijab.
@ladislausvmap
@ladislausvmap Жыл бұрын
Your not
@sunpath8741
@sunpath8741 Жыл бұрын
@@StallionFernando The bible tells us only through Christ
@FatherDingo
@FatherDingo Жыл бұрын
The fact that they are delusional seems to not face you at all.
@deplorabledave1048
@deplorabledave1048 Жыл бұрын
He was soooo shaky (weak) when he came back in the public eye after almost dying from kicking benzos. Man, does he ever bring the fire and thunder......now that he has healed some. My God, it warms my soul! God bless, the Good Doctor!
@SM_zzz
@SM_zzz Жыл бұрын
It's inspiring to see someone overcome all kinds of unbelievably difficult adversities and then to rise back to the top, living by his own advice. Bravo, Dr. Peterson. Bravo. ❤ God bless.
@equityjustice2695
@equityjustice2695 Жыл бұрын
😑Jordan is 💨 running from reality. He won't accept truth even if it was proven to him. This just shows his lack of sincerity. But he will cry on cue. ISLAM is the truth, but he refuses to accept because of his ego.
@SM_zzz
@SM_zzz Жыл бұрын
@@equityjustice2695 I'm not sure where you're coming from... it kind of sounds like you're forcing him to unquestionably adopt a religion that comes from a culture very different to his own. Is that truth?
@tirianashby
@tirianashby Жыл бұрын
@@equityjustice2695 You don't know for a fact that Islam is the truth, just like how no one on this earth knows all truths. Dogmatism was discussed in this video and you are displaying it clearly now! JP is plenty sincere and your letting your own beliefs cloud an objective judgement
@equityjustice2695
@equityjustice2695 Жыл бұрын
@@SM_zzz that's not what I wrote?🤷‍♂️ Where did you get forcing anything on anyone. 🤔 Maybe your biases are projecting thoughts into your mind.
@janewilson8784
@janewilson8784 5 ай бұрын
this was enlightening - thank you
@matthewthehuman1744
@matthewthehuman1744 Ай бұрын
Jordan, you're the best in the game. Massive respect to the other two gentlemen as well.
@live4life767
@live4life767 Жыл бұрын
5:06 Dr Jordan: “I’m actually not here to be tolerant” WOW i give him a lot of credit for being brutally honest & sticking to his beliefs, & showing guts!!!
@NotDecided420
@NotDecided420 Жыл бұрын
But that was more of a statement saying its not out of tolerance because that would mean he's just putting up with him. Hes just tolerating this debate. So I think he explained quite well why he didn't use the word "tolerate"
@azerhuseinbegovic1692
@azerhuseinbegovic1692 Жыл бұрын
Why he is not honest with Benjamin Natanjahu ? And not challenging him
@NotDecided420
@NotDecided420 Жыл бұрын
He's not there? How's he going to ask a totally irrelevant question? Last I checked, he was Israeli? Peterson is CHRISTIAN! Hijab is Muslim? What are you talking about??
@Hannestv4607
@Hannestv4607 Жыл бұрын
It is very easy to refute Islam! Because the God of Islam does not know that according to Christianity God incarnated True love = the love of God! *God himself went to the cross for you out of love for you as a human being* Philippians 2:5-8
@applianceman6194
@applianceman6194 Жыл бұрын
@@azerhuseinbegovic1692 about what? Your hatred towards Jews?
@michaelahaight2231
@michaelahaight2231 Жыл бұрын
The good humor in this video keeps it wholesome and almost fun. The restraint to not be offended from all of these men is very impressive.
@sofiadaisy9701
@sofiadaisy9701 Жыл бұрын
I agree! The decision not to take anything personally and speak for a higher purpose means that petty things are moved past quickly and actually are taken in good humour. Good point!
@The_Chairperson
@The_Chairperson Жыл бұрын
onereason d o t org
@rockydennis4497
@rockydennis4497 Жыл бұрын
There is nothing to get upset about unless you can’t think critically enough to understand why someone may think a certain way,even if you think the opposite!!Its not necessarily that you agree,but you can see where they are coming from ,and then you just agree to disagree!!That in itself can move us forward and come to a common ground,if you are mad,you don’t grasp,you don’t accept and you go into your respective corners and the problem never gets solved!!!
@hannawurst6064
@hannawurst6064 Жыл бұрын
*The ETERNAL GOD would do anything for you!!* Even out of love for you he went to the cross as a human!! Philippians 2:5-8
@phun1901
@phun1901 Жыл бұрын
Let's also appreciate this conversation would probably be illegal to have or broadcast in quite a few Muslim countries.
@nihshrey
@nihshrey 3 ай бұрын
Appreciate you sir, you are a golden treasure to humanity.
@alexz31cujo31
@alexz31cujo31 20 күн бұрын
Also to my Muslims. As-Salaam-Alaikum There is no other name by which men can be saved except Jesus of Nazareth.
@ambition112
@ambition112 9 ай бұрын
0:00: 🗣 The speaker discusses the importance of initiating dialogue and understanding between people of different religious faiths, emphasizing the need to focus on commonalities rather than differences. 10:36: 🗣 The speaker discusses the importance of engaging in difficult discussions and exploring different perspectives in order to find common ground and address historical atrocities. 20:04: 🗣 The speaker discusses the complex issue of responsibility for colonial past and offers an alternative perspective to the notion that the ideology of the West can fix all problems. 28:51: ✨ The speaker discusses the purpose of life and the importance of unity and humility in faith. 36:37: 🎶 The discussion explores the role of worship, ritual, and music in fostering unity and integration within communities, highlighting the importance of celebrating and praising a higher power. 46:05: 📚 The discussion revolves around the concept of truth, unity, and the compatibility of Christianity and scientific narratives. 55:26: 📚 The speaker discusses the centrality of the figure of Christ in different religious traditions and the significance of symbolic interpretation in Christianity. 1:04:21: 🤔 The speaker discusses the complexities of belief, perception, and interpretation in relation to questions about God and texts. 1:13:05: 💡 The speaker discusses the psychological perspective on why people are drawn to the crucifixion story and the concept of confronting tragedy and hell in life. 1:23:05: 📚 Discussion on the power of belief, unity, and the evidence for Prophet Muhammad's prophethood. 1:32:40: 📚 The speaker discusses various prophecies and beliefs related to Islam and evaluates the concept of proof in faith. Recap by Tammy AI
@Shado3_3
@Shado3_3 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this🙌❤️💯💯
@blessingnjoku721
@blessingnjoku721 8 ай бұрын
You have done so well. I need to book a class with u to learn how to paraphrase perfectly. U are awesome 👍
@ADEL.MUSLIM
@ADEL.MUSLIM 8 ай бұрын
nice
@1viva
@1viva 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for this practical information! :-)
@Dr_Ryan-uu4rk
@Dr_Ryan-uu4rk 7 ай бұрын
Spectacular 😮
@aoratosvir4560
@aoratosvir4560 Жыл бұрын
I'm almost a below average student, but when i listen to talks like these and watch documentaries, i feel i learn more, more than school offers, not that I'm dismissing the importance of school, but i love when people speak without the media and world pollution involved, it's really really amazing
@omowhanre
@omowhanre Жыл бұрын
If you’re interested in talks such as this, it’s obvious that you’re intelligent and curious. “Don’t let your schooling get in the way of your learning.”- said by someone smart. Read more and continue to seek knowledge.
@aoratosvir4560
@aoratosvir4560 Жыл бұрын
@@omowhanre thank you
@sephatu6521
@sephatu6521 Жыл бұрын
If this discussion speaks to you, try looking into Blogging Theology channel. There are bunch of topics of theism and even more specifically in depth on Islam being discussed at length.
@martin4670
@martin4670 Жыл бұрын
peterson is a psuedo-intellect by definition. You'd get alot more listening to an actual intellect instead of these two.
@redjupiter2236
@redjupiter2236 Жыл бұрын
You're not dismissing the importance of education, by pointing out the monotony of indoctrination, and the oppression of free creative thinking, within the modern education system.
@meeph567
@meeph567 5 ай бұрын
This is the only instance where I saw Mohammed behave very nicely - Jordan, you are an amazing person and I wish I had one tenth of the goodness you have, in me. I hope your positive influence will spread to everyone.
@Danimal77
@Danimal77 3 ай бұрын
He behaved very nicely on The True Geordie podcast.
@alyssag.5758
@alyssag.5758 24 күн бұрын
No he was nice on the Fresh and Fit podcast
@michellerainwaters3608
@michellerainwaters3608 5 ай бұрын
I was always told that the trinity is beyond human understanding. But I started thinking. I am made in Gods image. What am I? I am mind , ( consciousness), i am body, I am spirit. All 3 aspects are me. And together all 3 are 1, which is me. Now this does not even come close to understanding the trinity, but it does kind of come close.
@marcawaseb7745
@marcawaseb7745 4 ай бұрын
This same thought runs through my head every day 😅 nice to know there are others who do too
@user-ng2gn3yu6g
@user-ng2gn3yu6g 4 ай бұрын
In Genesis in the middle of the garden of Eden were two trees 🌳 the tree of life and the tree of knowledge of good and evil..God created in His image and likeness..the tree of life represents Gods life and the tree of knowledge represents Satan's life..God's purpose of putting man in front of the tree of life was so that man would eat the tree of life so that he would express God..but man chose the tree of knowledge of which God warned Adam not to eat otherwise he would die but the devil tempted Eve who ate the fruit from the tree of knowledge and gave to Adam thus the nature of Satan entered into man thus the beginning of man and the first fall of man..before the fall there were no such thing as mankind but God kind because we were created in His image and likeness..because of the fall man became separated from God, hence the sacrifice of the lamb in the beginning.
@user-ng2gn3yu6g
@user-ng2gn3yu6g 4 ай бұрын
In order for God to get into man, God had to become a man through incarnation to be the real sacrifice once for all for all our sins and to nail the old creation, the law, etc and death and Satan on the cross. And through resurrection to become the All-inclusive life giving Spirit that when we believe and confess that Jesus is Lord will be saved from there sins and receive the life of God to express God in life and nature but not His Godhead. (God the father in Christ Jesus as the Spirit flowing into man). The purpose of life is to express God here on earth for eternity not to go to heaven.
@sareedoahmed1751
@sareedoahmed1751 2 ай бұрын
Islam we say we had rooh which is spirit and we have 3 souls. However God doesn't haven't got any kids he is one and alone. Also we pray to him without any building ❤
@wippien
@wippien Ай бұрын
@@sareedoahmed1751 Christians do too. We can talk to God the whole day. Technically there is no need for a temple or church, because the body has become the temple of God. ( as in you’re not the same person you where before him, you become devoted too God) A follower of Jesus becomes a part of the body of Christ. The Spirit of God lives inside you and helps you to follow in the footsteps of Jesus. The more you spent time in his presence, the more you start to look like him in your behavior.
@tinatrottier4189
@tinatrottier4189 Жыл бұрын
Thank you to all three of you. This is the conversation we should all be having to love and appreciate each other.
@honz40hands1st9
@honz40hands1st9 Жыл бұрын
Nobody came to an agreement an the Muslim as cocky an arrogant as he may be didn’t even provide an facts an doesn’t know who Jesus really was, Muslims contradict themselves when it comes to Jesus an for hibjab to say provide the evidence an doesn’t accept when provided makes him look unintelligent an ignorant especially the part where they were gonna go off topic to prove hijab wrong but he didn’t want the smoke 1:09:32, for him to save they believe in Jesus an his miracles but not believe he is the son of God is mind blowing, no other person has done miracles in the Quran yet they go beating around the bush an pretending like they have truth but they go by the Old Testament that was before Jesus Christ & pick an choose what makes sense to them instead of the entire story which is ridiculously selfish
@honz40hands1st9
@honz40hands1st9 Жыл бұрын
They say Mohammed saw a vision of the revaluation from an angel but in the Bible Galatians chpt 1: vs8-9 it clearly says that we shouldn’t believe in anything other than what God has told us an clearly that’s not what Muslims do, yet they’ll pick an choose what’s best for them 😂 absolutely absurd fallacy
@hannawurst6064
@hannawurst6064 Жыл бұрын
*The ETERNAL GOD would do anything for you!!* Even out of love for you he went to the cross as a human!! Philippians 2:5-8
@george12go
@george12go Жыл бұрын
all of you spoke beautifully.. There is no winner except for those listening.. Thank you all
@jmp814
@jmp814 Жыл бұрын
The US's 'Founding Fathers', already tried this approach of 'attempt to understand the muslim jackals, who kept killing & enslaving non-islamics indiscriminantly & without mercy or for amy apparent sane reason. They were told that that's how it's written in the q'ran & haddiths, that's how it'll remain. The result was a ban on muslims withim the US. Infortunately, Nancy Pelosi, Mitch McConnell, John McCain, Lindsay Graham & 1 or 2 other retards removed yhay law, in the 60's or 70's. That's treason & punishable by death. muslims are blooded from an early age & are raised to - expected to inflict fear, terror & atrocities upon the infidels via the 7 types of jihad, on every occassion, while being taught to deceive manipulate & destroy everything that wasn't made via allah. Look up taharoosh/taharuush. The way muslims achieve their halal food, is the same way the satanist elites get their adrenalin packed blood from tortured children before they're killed. They both pray to the devil & get along like a house on fire. To understand the reason why they always act like cut snakes, search for video & text on halal, adrenalin, epi-pen & adrenochrome processes. All are part of the global cabal & must be forced to leave our countries - receive the penalty of death, if they don't comply.
@lillebror1567
@lillebror1567 Жыл бұрын
What do you mean "all"? Whatt do you mean "spoke"? What do you mean "beautifully"?
@bringinthedope5929
@bringinthedope5929 Жыл бұрын
@@lillebror1567 Lmao
@ahsanha9838
@ahsanha9838 Жыл бұрын
The aim of an argument shouldn't be victory, but progress.
@lillebror1567
@lillebror1567 Жыл бұрын
@@ahsanha9838 Neither to go into meaningless semantics about what simple words mean. JP thinks he can define what a woman is, but not words like "do", "you" or "believe".
@Jrib_stopunthank
@Jrib_stopunthank Ай бұрын
For Hijab to put himself up beside Jordan is insane. And Hijab needs to listen, Jordan is really really being graceful and not going into Hijab & even defending Hijab, when he knows Hijab is not being honest & trying to push a narrative. Hijab know that Jordan can be much much harder
@cselphenator
@cselphenator 5 ай бұрын
I would have liked to hear more from Jonathan.
@laurenc6706
@laurenc6706 Жыл бұрын
As a Christian I found this absolutely fascinating. Thank you for this conversation!
@SY-cp4mb
@SY-cp4mb Жыл бұрын
I'm curious to hear what aspects of this conversation fascinated you, please?
@Alfred5555
@Alfred5555 Жыл бұрын
Me too, please.
@char377
@char377 Жыл бұрын
I can respond if you like. I suppose you could call me a Christian as I try to follow the words of Jesus and the bible, search for a closer relationship with God, and go to church meetings. The consistent “evidence” supporting my own belief in what (and who) I consider to be the way and truth has been the vast array of modern psychological, sociological and psychoanalytical findings that seem to fall perfectly in place with what God communicates to us in the bible, especially in Jesus’ teachings. Peterson points out quite a few more consistencies in this discussion, which I found fascinating. On top of that, I love his articulation of the idea that looking at stories in the bible as literal, historical, somewhat ephemeral incidences are in a way downplaying their eternal significance, because they were true then, they are now, and they will be in the future.
@char377
@char377 Жыл бұрын
On top of that, I also loved hearing from Mohammed about the consistencies with modern life which his holy book have described. On the darker side, I do believe his fervent (and no doubt religiously dutiful) attempts to convince the other two of the higher value or more rightful place of his own religion was kind of missing the point of where this conversation was intended to go. I hoped the core similarities and differences would be discussed in order to reach a further understanding of how we can coexist without conflict, but as Mohammed had suggested a few times, unity is not his main goal.
@char377
@char377 Жыл бұрын
What did you guys like/dislike?
@meshukorina
@meshukorina Жыл бұрын
Dr. Jordan B. Peterson is quite literally the gift that keeps on giving. 🙌🏽 THANK YOU 🙏🏽
@Ka112eb
@Ka112eb Жыл бұрын
Hijab the joke that keeps me laughing
@realestever1097
@realestever1097 Жыл бұрын
Pakistan is a terrorist state
@einherjar2545
@einherjar2545 Жыл бұрын
A gem from Canada
@Ibn_Abdulaziz
@Ibn_Abdulaziz Жыл бұрын
Also he was banned from twitter for annoying a girl that became a man right? So what does think of christianity that claims God became a man? Did God transition into an apartheid tribesmen creature? Is that why he stormed Al-Aqsa compound due to his belief that God belongs to the apartheid tribesmen's ethnicity?
@Ibn_Abdulaziz
@Ibn_Abdulaziz Жыл бұрын
He says that he wants peace, but then goes on to storm Al-Aqsa compound with that robot sounding apartheid tribesmen creature. Rather what he wants is perennialism among Muslims and zionism for them. Did this interview happen before or after his storming of Al-Aqsa? Look up the video.
@B25Mitchel-qy5kg
@B25Mitchel-qy5kg 9 күн бұрын
DR, PETERSON is a blessing to the world and he is comprehended only IF you know anything about the English language.
@jasonb.3902
@jasonb.3902 4 ай бұрын
If Mohammad Hijab were a Christian, and spoke the way he does to others, i would continue to withold my respect. He is condescending, and confrontational in a violent way with his tone and use of hands.
@anthonyhughes8026
@anthonyhughes8026 Жыл бұрын
Dr. JP: “This isn’t an insult; I’m telling you what my reaction is…” Mohammed Hijab: “Please” -if we could get this interaction right as a species, the rest of life would be so easy. This is an excellent sampling of honest, thoughtful exchange between intelligent persons. More, please. Thank you 🙏🏼 cheers.
@martin4670
@martin4670 Жыл бұрын
Adults discussing bronze-age-superstition 😂 you can't expect much
@Ananya965
@Ananya965 Жыл бұрын
@@martin4670 the abrahamic ideas and stories, the abrahamic religion especially islam and Christianity are no where near as old as brionze age, surely judiasim is also not as old as bronze age, islam originited 6th-7th Century AD/CE
@readquranandlearnaboutisla592
@readquranandlearnaboutisla592 Жыл бұрын
The Godfather = ALLAH is the The Real Truth
@notnuff2264
@notnuff2264 Жыл бұрын
@@martin4670 Unfortunatly, it's a bit over your head. I see you're here though, perhaps you'll figure it out someday.
@hannawurst6064
@hannawurst6064 Жыл бұрын
*Who explains to us why the Koran says Christians believe God has a biological son!* To all Muslims! Son of God means NOT SON! What is called the son of God is the word of God = god himself! Which has nothing to do with a child (son)! Thus, the Son of God is incarnated as the human Jesus and the human Jesus is therefore referred to as a son, which does not mean a son!
@anerkant
@anerkant Жыл бұрын
Me Muslim. Mentioned it to say I love you my Christian Brothers and of course the whole humanity - I love it. J.P an asset invaluable for us humans. And thank you everyone. Let us work in all corners of world to make some good difference or development. Again : thanks.
@factmanamerican882
@factmanamerican882 Жыл бұрын
There is NO WAY this man could bring PROOF that Muhammad was an actual prophet. Why do I say this? Because NO PROPHET would be a child molester, pedophile. No prophet would be a Rapist. NO prophet would own sex slaves. No prophet was a mass murderer. Now how can I make this claims? NONE of those claims come from my personal opinion. ALL of those claims are in Islams OWN BOOKS. Quran, Hadith, Sira. So why doesn't Jordan, who I have so much respect for, ask those hard questions? Since you are Muslim, perhaps you can address these issues I have with Muhammad.
@roberjohnsmith
@roberjohnsmith Жыл бұрын
You seem like a great person. Why do you follow Quran? Or do you just go along with the culture? The Quran says to be a Muslim you must seek out the non believers and polytheists and pagans and kill them where you find them or make them pay jizya. Apostates are murdered everyday because of sharia. Christians killed everyday. And this is not extremism, they are simply following your prophet. You sound like the type of person who is being called to Christ. Christ is humble and peaceful and non violent and he doesn't have sex with children. Mohammed and his army raped so many women after killing the men. Why do you follow Mohammed? I have so much love for you brother. I hope you leave Islam one day. Look up nabeel qureshi and his story. Maybe you can relate to him.
@blueskies1237
@blueskies1237 Жыл бұрын
No matter what your religion, Jordan Peterson’s truth makes everyone’s life better.
@BeesWaxMinder
@BeesWaxMinder Жыл бұрын
Thank YOU👍
@BeesWaxMinder
@BeesWaxMinder Жыл бұрын
@@roberjohnsmith 42:33
@user-rc7lh5xp5g
@user-rc7lh5xp5g 4 ай бұрын
Why is the ending cutoff? It looks like it was going to be the best part
@martinarooney228
@martinarooney228 2 ай бұрын
Likely it continues on the Daily Wire Plus.
@luminaryliza
@luminaryliza 5 күн бұрын
Beautiful conversation mr. Peterson. You did it again! I am myself a muslim. after listening, I do have a few questions. Correct me if I’m wrong but why do you take science rationally and religion not? The Holy Scriptures are meant to be a direct guideline for humankind and not some sort of puzzle to solve. In the Quran, the duties of the believers are clearly written, for example who gets what in inheritance or the act of divorce. Now as I’m speaking about the Quran, I would really want you to have a read in this divine word of God. Please sir, let this be a sign of Allah swt for you to open our Holy Book. For everyone reading. Make dua for mr. Peterson to guide him to islam. In Shaa Allah you will be part of the Ummah
@S0ph1st3s
@S0ph1st3s 7 ай бұрын
I love how Mohammad Hijab acts so less aggressive when talking to Jordan Peterson
@martino8114
@martino8114 7 ай бұрын
I’m not familiar with him but understood people think he’s confrontational and maybe mean… that’s not what I see here which tells me that the perceptions of him aren’t taking into consideration the people or situations he had been dealing with and now dealing with a wonderful person and intellect like Jordan he recognizes and adjusts properly. Hey I am raised Catholic but I want peace between Islam and Christianity and Jewish people! We have much more in common than not it seems. This is an amazing thing happening here
@user-zx6qs7bl5c
@user-zx6qs7bl5c 6 ай бұрын
@@martino8114or you’re not taking into account humans ability to be twofaced and act with some manners when necessary an individuals ability to behave for an hour really isn’t proof of much 😂
@samk.4158
@samk.4158 2 ай бұрын
​@dreanngirlisn't this the guy who was bullying that Christian KZfaqr though? Swear I saw a video where this dude was threatening to spit on some guy, said he can't debate him unless he is allowed to personally insult him, and then said some horrendous crap over Twitter. I'll see if I can find it
@samk.4158
@samk.4158 2 ай бұрын
@dreanngirl a guy wanted to debate with him. That isn't disrespectful, that's how adults talk. I saw an hour long video which showed hijab acting like a jackass. He says awful things, argues in bad faith, and is just downright immature. Im not sure what the other people said about him first, but he doesn't act like somebody I would look up to as a leader in my religion
@ciara1243
@ciara1243 2 ай бұрын
​@@dreanngirldon't think that anyone is hurt because they find him rude. I think he is a terrible spokesperson he is very aggressive and he commonly uses personal attacks instead of debating an idea
@jaguillermol
@jaguillermol Жыл бұрын
Jonathan Pageau is a true spiritual man. It is rare to see patience in action as with him.
@jeffw7382
@jeffw7382 Жыл бұрын
I could see him praying for patience and charity. Mohammed Hijab was acting in such bad faith throughout this entire conversation.
@sararae5994
@sararae5994 Жыл бұрын
@@jeffw7382 mohammed was not acting bad come on his abit rough around the edges but his a good soul trust me he means well its just how he says things sometimes some people are like that but he is genuine and a good guy overall
@WelcomeToJ
@WelcomeToJ Жыл бұрын
Jonathan just posted an explanation of this video on his channel explaining exactly why he was the way he was here. Specifically how Mohammad was intent on trying to prove to his buddies that he was trying to convert them, rather than engaging in the original purpose of this dialogue (which was to discuss the title of this video). Recommend you check it out.
@Halohalo2323
@Halohalo2323 Жыл бұрын
@@sararae5994 r u living in a turtle shell? Have you seen how demeaning and insulting he can be to others? See those youtube videos where he was caught doing this. Anyway he was totally owned here.
@Hannestv4607
@Hannestv4607 Жыл бұрын
6,101 The Originator of the heavens and earth, from where He have a son whereas there is no woman for Him and he has created everything and He knows all things. *Allah cannot have a son without a female !!* Allah does not know that the eternal god himself became man !! *According to the Koran, Allah believes: Jesus is a Jewish Hercules (new created GOD)!*
@user-gj8sh1cs7j
@user-gj8sh1cs7j 5 ай бұрын
In a world rich with diversity, where cultures intertwine and beliefs form the very fabric of societies, the quest for a universal understanding of the divine persists. The concept of a universal religion, transcending the boundaries of individual faiths, is an intriguing notion that beckons us to explore the common threads that bind the diverse tapestry of world religions. At the heart of every major religion lies a shared essence-an ethical compass guiding humanity toward virtue, compassion, and a higher purpose. The teachings of love, kindness, and empathy are not confined to a single faith but resonate through the halls of temples, churches, mosques, and synagogues alike. From the Golden Rule in Christianity to the concept of 'Ahimsa' in Hinduism, the core principles advocate treating others with the same respect and kindness we desire for ourselves. The universal religion, if we dare imagine it, could be an amalgamation of these shared ethical values, fostering a world where tolerance and understanding prevail. In such a utopian vision, the richness of diverse traditions becomes a source of celebration, not division. Rather than emphasizing differences, adherents would unite in a shared commitment to fostering goodwill and harmony. However, the path to a universal religion is not without challenges. Religious doctrines often carry distinct cultural nuances and historical contexts, which may present hurdles in creating a seamless synthesis. Additionally, deeply ingrained theological disparities may require delicate navigation to harmonize conflicting beliefs. Yet, the very essence of spirituality is rooted in the pursuit of unity and understanding, providing hope that such challenges can be surmounted. Moreover, the universal religion could draw inspiration from the mystic traditions found in various faiths. Mysticism often transcends the dogmas and rituals, seeking a direct connection with the divine. Whether through Sufism in Islam, Kabbalah in Judaism, or contemplative practices in Buddhism, the mystic path emphasizes a personal communion with the divine, potentially forming a common ground for seekers of truth. The universal religion is not about erasing the distinctiveness of each faith but rather embracing a shared spirituality that transcends the confines of religious labels. It's an acknowledgment that, despite our diverse paths, we are all fellow travelers on the journey of existence. It prompts us to recognize the divine spark within ourselves and others, fostering a sense of interconnectedness that goes beyond the boundaries of creed. In conclusion, the dream of a universal religion beckons us to look beyond the surface disparities of our faiths and recognize the shared values that bind us together. It challenges us to rise above divisive doctrines, embracing the common essence that unites humanity in its collective pursuit of meaning and purpose. While the road to a universal religion may be winding and complex, the destination promises a world where the tapestry of human spirituality weaves a narrative of unity, understanding, and shared reverence for the divine.
@davidcuevas1889
@davidcuevas1889 7 күн бұрын
So good! I absolutely ❤ this talk.
@user-yb8lk6sf7w
@user-yb8lk6sf7w 3 ай бұрын
Awsome man Jordan Peterson, so intelligent, clam, respectful and peaceful🙏👏👏💜
@johndinkota7294
@johndinkota7294 Жыл бұрын
It’s sad how little we heard from Jonathan Pageau… I feel like his insight would’ve helped this conversation a lot!
@samuelneill8628
@samuelneill8628 Жыл бұрын
Hijab doesn’t want to hear his point of view, probably didn’t help himself with the early accusations although warranted.
@emadibrahim7875
@emadibrahim7875 Жыл бұрын
To be honest with you he seemed more interested in listening rather than talking, dude was enjoying it. At least this is what it looked like to me.
@emadibrahim7875
@emadibrahim7875 Жыл бұрын
@@samuelneill8628 maybe, but really?
@samuelneill8628
@samuelneill8628 Жыл бұрын
@@emadibrahim7875 sorry I don’t understand what you’re asking
@wacayssuleyman2380
@wacayssuleyman2380 Жыл бұрын
@@samuelneill8628 He’s asking of how more could your stupidity peak?
@CheyanneTheWolf
@CheyanneTheWolf 9 ай бұрын
In spite of Hijab's continual attempts to frame the others there with his preconceived biases, JBP {in his age acquired wisdom} was able to keep the conversation steered in the direction of cooperation in conversation. Don't think this humble art has gone unnoticed.
@user-zx6qs7bl5c
@user-zx6qs7bl5c 6 ай бұрын
Muslims operate to the point of suicide bombing based off preconceived biases and hatred based off hearsay then the speak down to us about peace there is lots of ego and arrogance involved
@overlex
@overlex 3 күн бұрын
This is a Mohammed Hijab I’ve never seen before. Weird seeing him minimally confrontational and genuinely curious about people instead of stubborn
@standard-user-name
@standard-user-name 4 күн бұрын
The people of the Middle East have so much to offer the world, to offer Christianity. They have beautiful art and culture that stems from prior to Islam. I hope they join us all in seeing the difference between our prophet and their current one, and which seems more divine in their actions.
@SVisionary
@SVisionary Жыл бұрын
I would be perfectly fine seeing these discussions extended or added to in the future. We have more in common than we don't. Educational.
@jmp814
@jmp814 Жыл бұрын
The US's 'Founding Fathers', already tried this approach of 'attempt to understand the muslim jackals, who kept killing & enslaving non-islamics indiscriminantly & without mercy or for amy apparent sane reason. They were told that that's how it's written in the q'ran & haddiths, that's how it'll remain. The result was a ban on muslims withim the US. Infortunately, Nancy Pelosi, Mitch McConnell, John McCain, Lindsay Graham & 1 or 2 other retards removed yhay law, in the 60's or 70's. That's treason & punishable by death. muslims are blooded from an early age & are raised to - expected to inflict fear, terror & atrocities upon the infidels via the 7 types of jihad, on every occassion, while being taught to deceive manipulate & destroy everything that wasn't made via allah. Look up taharoosh/taharuush. The way muslims achieve their halal food, is the same way the satanist elites get their adrenalin packed blood from tortured children before they're killed. They both pray to the devil & get along like a house on fire. To understand the reason why they always act like cut snakes, search for video & text on halal, adrenalin, epi-pen & adrenochrome processes. All are part of the global cabal & must be forced to leave our countries - receive the penalty of death, if they don't comply.
@mags7054
@mags7054 Жыл бұрын
I would also love to see more of a conversation, discussion, in detail and dissected , of the common grounds.
@tyrel5064
@tyrel5064 Жыл бұрын
What a great conversation. The fact they are all disagreeable makes for a deeper dive into discussion. And the fact they are not offended to the point of anger or resentment makes for a stable conversation. Firm yet respectful is what is lacking in this world today.
@torikdib1398
@torikdib1398 Жыл бұрын
Very well worded and true. I, along with many others im guessing, was dismissive of his attempts at first and assumed it was a one off attempt/video but im very happy to see his persistent and genuinely desires, at least a quasie, theistic unity
@Jammet
@Jammet Жыл бұрын
That room really needed someone like Matt Dillahunty in it, too, to make for a more fair and balanced world view. Because all the jabs at ethics of non-believers or differences in approach to individualism therein, would have been addressed. As well as issues between religions and just not being part of one.
@KillerKabel
@KillerKabel Жыл бұрын
Restorative masculinity ✌️
@rsm8974
@rsm8974 Жыл бұрын
@@Jammet no it wouldnt The guy lacks manners compared to these two
@BboyKeny
@BboyKeny Жыл бұрын
As an agreeable person I don't see Peterson as disagreeable though. I say this because you say "they are all disagreeable" which raised an eyebrow for me.
@knoore
@knoore 4 ай бұрын
Amazing! Powerful!!
@dannymoorhouse1174
@dannymoorhouse1174 4 ай бұрын
I'm aware it was a conversation between people, but the very fact Jordan Peterson was part of that set the tone by introducing intellect and common sense . He's such a great thinker scholar conversationist and teacher . Respect doctor Peterson 🙏.
@fritzco55
@fritzco55 Жыл бұрын
I like how Dr. Peterson comes of out of the gate saying he wants "to start a dialogue stupidly and badly". It's humble and socratic. I don't really know too much, but I am going to attempt to do something, and I am going to do it badly. But let's at least get it started.
@DisgruntledPigumon
@DisgruntledPigumon 11 ай бұрын
Conversations like this are all too rare. I thank these three people for gathering here.
@dylanmurphy9389
@dylanmurphy9389 10 ай бұрын
Christian’s who prefer modern liberalism over Islam are much further away from Jesus’ teachings than Muslims are
@amitdangwal3041
@amitdangwal3041 10 ай бұрын
this guy Hijab is a big mess. He is a trouble maker.
@akrlafoleak5168
@akrlafoleak5168 10 ай бұрын
@@amitdangwal3041 why ?
@imamspongebob2812
@imamspongebob2812 10 ай бұрын
@@akrlafoleak5168he’s a Hindu. They think from their ass don’t worry
@masudsaleh5155
@masudsaleh5155 10 ай бұрын
​@@amitdangwal3041Those who disbelieve spend their wealth to repel from Allah’s path. They will spend it, then it will become a source of sorrow for them, and then they will be defeated. Those who disbelieve will be herded into Hell. SURAH AL-ANFAL AYAT 36 إِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ يُنفِقُونَ أَمۡوَٰلَهُمۡ لِيَصُدُّواْ عَن سَبِيلِ ٱللَّهِۚ فَسَيُنفِقُونَهَا ثُمَّ تَكُونُ عَلَيۡهِمۡ حَسۡرَةٗ ثُمَّ يُغۡلَبُونَۗ وَٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوٓاْ إِلَىٰ جَهَنَّمَ يُحۡشَرُونَ
@daniel9907
@daniel9907 5 ай бұрын
This is really a great talk I understand exactly what there saying does that make me well read???
@yasamanhosseinzadeh1920
@yasamanhosseinzadeh1920 4 ай бұрын
Does this conversation continue? if yes how can I find the rest of it?
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