Tandy Color Computer 3 + video options and RAM upgrade

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The Taylor and Amy Show

The Taylor and Amy Show

Жыл бұрын

We play with a Tandy Radio Shack Color Computer 3 for the first time. Video options are explored and the RAM is upgraded. Fun was had.
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@anjanettepetty-kountz3785
@anjanettepetty-kountz3785 Жыл бұрын
Amy… “we’re about to be scarted on” made me laugh so hard I almost scarted!! 🤪😂 Another great episode ladies!! AND… nice T-Shirt Amy!!
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
I LOVE MY SHIRT.
@geekwithsocialskills
@geekwithsocialskills Жыл бұрын
AJ!!!!!
@brianwieseler5938
@brianwieseler5938 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video. I’m glad you enjoyed it. Look forward to other future videos with it. Have fun.
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
Thanks again, Brian!!!!!!!
@RetroTechChris
@RetroTechChris Жыл бұрын
Nice upgrades there!
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Chris! See you at VCFSW!
@RetroTechChris
@RetroTechChris Жыл бұрын
@@fractalMD Yes!!! Looking forward to it!
@geekwithsocialskills
@geekwithsocialskills Жыл бұрын
Chris! 🍦
@drjohnfisher
@drjohnfisher Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Really enjoyed watching the upgrade, and as always, the entertainment was second to none! Keep it up you two!
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
😊
@bobtherieau6086
@bobtherieau6086 Жыл бұрын
Hey Amy! This has got to be the greatest Tandy Color Computer RAM upgrade video you've ever done! Congratulations.
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
**bows** **accepts applause**
@RobertPayne556
@RobertPayne556 Жыл бұрын
THE TAKLYO Firmware update required
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
Loool
@CurtisBoyle
@CurtisBoyle Жыл бұрын
Manic Miner does run black and white on a Coco (or Dragon) Space Marauder by Craig Stewart was actually sold by Tandy stores - but only in Australia. As you may have noticed, to shoot the asteroids you have to hit them pretty well dead center (there are some other keyboard commands for things like changing how your shots work)- but you can find complete instructions on the Color Computer Archive). It is a Coco 3 exclusive game, so you will see the better graphics that the Coco 3 offers (320x192 16 color in Space Marauder's case). Also - there was no standard for which joystick port each game used, so you may have to switch left and right joystick ports. One oddity that you will hit for Coco 3 games - the palettes between RGB and composite are different (which is why most Coco 3 specific games will ask which monitor type you have). But for RF and composite, the Coco 3 defaults to composite. If you want to play some of the older Coco 1/2 games (that don't use artifact colors) in RGB mode (for your SCART adapter), you will need to type RGB in BASIC first. As others have mentioned, you definitely should check out WIDTH 40 and WIDTH 80 commands in BASIC as well, especially with the SCART. You also now have the PALETTE command, which lets you change colors (even for old Coco 1/2 programs and the text screen). On the 32 column (Coco 1/2 style) screen, the text foreground is PALETTE 12,xx and the background is PALETTE 13,xx (where xx can be anything from 0 to 64 for both). For 40 and 80 columns, PALETTE 8,xx is the foreground and PALETTE 0,xx is the background. If you wanted white text on a black background (for example), you would replace xx with 63 (for white) and xx with 0 (for black). There are a few colors that are the same between composite and RGB; black and white are 2 of them, so this works in both modes. And of course, now that you have both a 512K Coco 3 and a CocoSDC - you can download the free NitrOS9 Ease of Use version 1.0.0 for the 6809, and give that a try (you *knew* that was coming, didn't you? lol).
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
I'm reading all this fabulous info eating Canadian dark chocolate kit kats.
@CurtisBoyle
@CurtisBoyle Жыл бұрын
@@fractalMD - You finally picked them up, eh? :)
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
@@CurtisBoyle I did! So good. John even likes them.
@CurtisBoyle
@CurtisBoyle Жыл бұрын
@@fractalMD - I promise to actually bring them ** IN THE CAR ** next year... versus UPS.
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
But I mean, the saga will be told and retold for years to come!
@MzGumby02
@MzGumby02 5 ай бұрын
I had one of those when I was a kid. I could never remember what it was called. Was a learning tool for me in my bedroom. Then Webtv came out, and that was all she wrote...haha. I miss the 90s.
@fractalMD
@fractalMD 4 ай бұрын
@errollleggo447
@errollleggo447 Жыл бұрын
"are we farming bitcoin" lol that would take a bit on the coco.
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
Would not be a very good get rich quick scheme. 😅
@CanadianRetroThings
@CanadianRetroThings Жыл бұрын
Welcome to the CoCo 3 Cult 😀
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Ken!!
@BollingHolt
@BollingHolt 10 ай бұрын
Nice! I cut my teeth on a CoCo2, a birthday present for my 5th birthday in early 1986. I did my first programming on that machine, called my first BBSes on that machine, had a printer, had all sorts of fun with it. I have a CoCo3 in my retro collection these days and love it. Glad I found your channel! :)
@fractalMD
@fractalMD 10 ай бұрын
Very very cool. Welcome!!!
@DevilsHandyman
@DevilsHandyman Жыл бұрын
Saw the other day that you will be a VCF Southwest! I will be attending with a friend. We are huge retro computer fans.
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
Oh cool! I think it will be fun.
@sloopymalibu
@sloopymalibu Жыл бұрын
Woohoo! RGB and 512K! now your living the best Tandy life you can be! :)
@sloopymalibu
@sloopymalibu Жыл бұрын
No thanks to sloopy? :O
@geekwithsocialskills
@geekwithsocialskills Жыл бұрын
I have the 512K, now I just need the fancy SCART cable and SCART to HDMI switcher box.
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
Slooopy. We totally thank you in the video, silly.
@RetroComparisons
@RetroComparisons Жыл бұрын
Awesome video as always! I'd highly recommend an OSSC or Retrotink 5x for SCART connections if you get other consoles/computers in the future that utilize RGB as it can line double up to 5 times and won't stretch out a 4:3 signal to 16:9.
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks!
@beeryefpv8212
@beeryefpv8212 Жыл бұрын
I recommend you play some games that require 512k like the Glen Hewlett ports of Pac Man, Defender or Donkey Kong. Also, when you are playing coco 1 and 2 games that use artifacts, you need to switch-a-roo to composite if you want to see color. Love your videos!
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
Much excellent advice. Thx!
@beeryefpv8212
@beeryefpv8212 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, Donkey Kong is Sockmaster. Glen Hewlett also did Joust and Robotron. Unbelieveable ports of the original code from Z80 to 6809. I'd love to see your reactions to loading these games up for the first time. They really show what the Coco 3 is capable of without the same hardware as a C64 or Atari.
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
You should have seen my reaction to the name Sockmaster.
@CheshireNoir
@CheshireNoir Жыл бұрын
I am envious of your CoCo 3 goodness :-D
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
We love it!
@cfbmoo1
@cfbmoo1 Жыл бұрын
I wish they still sold computers like that today new. I got my refurb CoCo 3 a while back and was using LW Tools to write assembly programs for it now and then while using Toolshed to make the disk images of the assembled programs. Good stuff! Though watching the joystick get plugged in while the computer was running made me flinch. I'm so used to shutting those off before plugging/unplugging things cause they really hammered that point home back in the 80s when I was a teenager.
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
Just avert your eyes! 😂
@drjohnfisher
@drjohnfisher Жыл бұрын
“Super Extended Color Basic.” That was my nickname in high school; also my super power.
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
I heard that about you.
@MikeDancy
@MikeDancy Жыл бұрын
COCO FEST! I've been wanting to goto that.
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
You should! It's great.
@TheREALJosephTurner
@TheREALJosephTurner Жыл бұрын
There's something strangely satisfying listening to you two say "SCART." 🤣
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
SCART SCART SCART
@DJTI99
@DJTI99 Жыл бұрын
1:29 Amy looks like she was about to scart whatever she was drinking all over the place. And at 6:27 Taylor was giving us the vibes of a bomb defusing scene from an 80s action film.
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
That was legit almost a spit take.
@DavidStahlOLDHAPPyMACs
@DavidStahlOLDHAPPyMACs Жыл бұрын
Nice that coco 3 Looking good that picture looks great-niece upgrade
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
It's so crazy how good it looks.
@tbytecreator
@tbytecreator Жыл бұрын
You guys playing with RGB>Composite is so awsome. kkkk
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
😄😄😄
@joelavcoco
@joelavcoco Жыл бұрын
If you want to really see the difference between composite and RGB, try 80 column mode with 'WIDTH 80'. Mind = blown.
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
I can't wait to try it.
@chrissimpson1183
@chrissimpson1183 11 ай бұрын
Love the AT AT shirt.
@fractalMD
@fractalMD 11 ай бұрын
Isn't it great?
@jschutts
@jschutts Жыл бұрын
The only problem with the Radio Shack Memory upgrade(I had one and I replaced it) is that it normally runs HOT. The Memory Upgrade that Cloud 9 sells offers the same memory capacity but it runs much cooler and adds longevity to the CoCo 3... Joe...
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
But then how would we toast our marshmellows?
@HD63C09EP
@HD63C09EP 5 ай бұрын
Mark at Cloud9 is an amazing person. He has saved my butt a few times. I do own his upgrades, and I am very happy with them.
@user-kr6xv8qv5j
@user-kr6xv8qv5j Жыл бұрын
best comedy couple since laurel and hardy
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
High praise, indeed!
@brianbabey
@brianbabey 10 ай бұрын
MMM you ladies look to young to know about this early 's pc? Being 57 i had 2 coco's 1 4 K upgraded to 64, xpad, multiport. coco 3. with monitor. loved them both. first use of spreadsheets deskmate. wrote weather forecasting programs.
@fractalMD
@fractalMD 10 ай бұрын
Hey, we'll take being called young any way we can get it.
@CharlieYoungblood-rz8in
@CharlieYoungblood-rz8in 3 ай бұрын
There is an easter egg on the CoCo3 on power up. Hold down the alt and ctrl keys while pushing the power button! 😊
@chrissimpson1183
@chrissimpson1183 11 ай бұрын
Gobbler looks fun
@fractalMD
@fractalMD 11 ай бұрын
You know it!
@lindnertim
@lindnertim Жыл бұрын
5:41 "There is this little jail." But what did the transformer do to deserve the incarceration!
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
Inquiring minds want to know!
@jschutts
@jschutts Жыл бұрын
Good Point... I concede...
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
INFALLIBLE!
@geekwithsocialskills
@geekwithsocialskills Жыл бұрын
Very cool! Welcome to the CoCo 3 club. I got one a few months ago myself and also did the 512KB memory upgrade, however mine is one of the newer upgrades, but the same process to install. I do need to get one of those SCART cables and SCART to HDMI converters. Can you add a link to the one you are using please?
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
Cocoman is your guy and he is linked in the description. 👌🏻 It's the Switcheroo.
@geekwithsocialskills
@geekwithsocialskills Жыл бұрын
@@fractalMD I see the Switcheroo, but what about the SCART to HDMI switcher box thiny you guys have?
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
@@geekwithsocialskills Oh hell. Yeah, let me look into that one.
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
So the answer I have for you just now is "Amazon."
@geekwithsocialskills
@geekwithsocialskills Жыл бұрын
@@fractalMD model number by chance? Please and thank you! 🙂
@orignal29
@orignal29 Жыл бұрын
Since this is an 8 bit computer, it can't probably address the 512k all at once, so it does bank switching, and these increasing numbers could be the different banks being tested.
@CurtisBoyle
@CurtisBoyle Жыл бұрын
Correct - each MMU bank is 8K, so in 512K you have MMU page numbers 0 to 63 (or 0 to $3F in hex, which is what the test shows).
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
**relaxes while LCB does all the hard work**
@elyuw
@elyuw Жыл бұрын
Manic Miner is in B&W because it was originally written for the Dragon 32 (basically a Welsh clone of the Coco 1) and it’s a conversion of the Sinclair Spectrum original and needed HiRes mode to achieve the same graphics layout etc. Fun fact, the Dragon 32 version has two extra levels over the Spectrum version, although to need to play through the previous 20 levels to see them, or apply the cheat code.
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
I really want a dragon, btw.
@maxxdahl6062
@maxxdahl6062 Жыл бұрын
From what I read, we got the dragon 32 in the US but in very very low numbers.
@CurtisBoyle
@CurtisBoyle Жыл бұрын
@@maxxdahl6062 - It was the Dragon 64, but yes, TANO made an NTSC version in the US sold in late 1983 and 1984. There was actually a warehouse full of them that got gradually sold off until the mid 2000-noughts.
@maxxdahl6062
@maxxdahl6062 Жыл бұрын
@@CurtisBoyle I think we got some of sinclair's computers too, but rebranded as Timex computers.
@CurtisBoyle
@CurtisBoyle Жыл бұрын
@@maxxdahl6062 - yep, that happened too.
@joacimwennerberg8310
@joacimwennerberg8310 Жыл бұрын
😍
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
Woo!
@maverickblah
@maverickblah 5 ай бұрын
With that keyboard, silent computing is not a feature of the Color Computer 3 😆
@fractalMD
@fractalMD 4 ай бұрын
Trooth
@8bitsinthebasement
@8bitsinthebasement Жыл бұрын
Scart, oooh yeah;)
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
We want to be cool like you!
@8bitsinthebasement
@8bitsinthebasement Жыл бұрын
@@fractalMD You don't need scart to do that, you're already 20 times cooler than I am ;)
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
@@8bitsinthebasement We aren't even close to your coolness!! You are crazy.
@timothyp8947
@timothyp8947 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the show, as usual. Know little about any of the CoCos, although a friend of mine from my first job was an avid Dragon-32 aficionado. Was it the CoCos that used OS-9 when the had floppies fitted?
@joelavcoco
@joelavcoco Жыл бұрын
OS-9 is an optional OS that does require a floppy disk system.
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
I defer to Joel!
@dangerotterisrea
@dangerotterisrea Жыл бұрын
very much like us europeans....scart goes into to everything, what a slag! XD
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
Ain't nothing wrong with that!
@dangerotterisrea
@dangerotterisrea Жыл бұрын
@@fractalMD it's beautiful really, I have a massive crt, sadly wide-screen. It only has scarts....when you get your cables sorted you are set!
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
I think we are converts.
@lurkerrekrul
@lurkerrekrul Жыл бұрын
The only Coco games I've ever played were One on One (basketball) and some maze game where a magnifying glass follows a bug around, showing an enlarged view of the maze as you move. This was when the local Radio Shack used to have systems set up and on display. The maze game was interesting, even if it was just a ripoff of Pac-Man, but the enlarged view made it harder to know where the enemies were.
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
Whoa. I wonder what the crazy maze have was called.
@CurtisBoyle
@CurtisBoyle Жыл бұрын
@@fractalMD - Mega-Bug (known as Dung Beetles on the Apple II)
@lurkerrekrul
@lurkerrekrul Жыл бұрын
@@fractalMD What Curtis said. I was too lazy to Google it before. :)
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
Dung beetles!!!
@lurkerrekrul
@lurkerrekrul Жыл бұрын
@@fractalMD The one creature you can tell to "Eat s***" and it's not an insult. :)
@AnoNym-iv9ig
@AnoNym-iv9ig Жыл бұрын
wtf? you two are funny and amazing :-) 2 nerdy women, yes!
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
Soooo nerdy
@WhatHoSnorkers
@WhatHoSnorkers Жыл бұрын
CoCoMo3!
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
Aruba, Jamaica....
@EricsEdgeVideos
@EricsEdgeVideos Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on being SCARTed... I think.
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
It felt great.
@rondelvo
@rondelvo Жыл бұрын
Adjust the screen size in the monitor to 640x480 put 2 joysticks in ..most software uses the right joystick
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
Ooh, thx Ron!
@lsdowdle
@lsdowdle Жыл бұрын
The MiSTer's HDMI out for its cores are EVEN CLEARER. Just sayin'.
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
Ooooooooh
@neomatrix4412
@neomatrix4412 2 ай бұрын
are you generation x?
@Fredthefat
@Fredthefat Жыл бұрын
Oh, I see for this one you are having fun, unlike all the other videos. I'm amazed at your decadence though - how much memory can anyone need. 4K does for most people right, 8K if you have a realy big program. Hundreds of K is just, like, wasteful
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
WE DESERVE THIS OPULENCE!
@Fredthefat
@Fredthefat Жыл бұрын
@@fractalMD Yes you do
@patrickcarney6674
@patrickcarney6674 Жыл бұрын
A modern version of this expansion board goes for $49, any idea what the original Tandy brand RAM board went for in the day?
@fractalMD
@fractalMD Жыл бұрын
One million dollars
@TaylorAmyShow
@TaylorAmyShow Жыл бұрын
According to the 1988 Radio Shack Catalog, the Color Computer 3 512K RAM Upgrade Kit was listed for $149.95.
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