Tank Abbott clearly said he has beef with John McCartney, not John McCarthy

This is Tank Abbott. I’m telling the truth! As always! Big John and these fools are utterly spewing nonsense. It’s so easy to do! I’m here to say, I will come on this show and prove it! Set it up! I would like to see what they have to say. In turn, I will tell the truth! 🤷🏻‍♂️ I’m waiting for you to get ahold of me! Sincerely, Tank All you big John lovers see if he gets ahold of me! I feel an excuse is coming!

It is ironic that John would stand up every Tank fight but let Dan Severn lay on top of his opponents for 20 minutes straight 😅

David Feldman needs to get Tank and Big John together for a BKFC match. This beef needs to be settled.

Big John was a Gracie follower at that time, it is how he got the job and being that the first UFC was invented to be a commercial for Gracie jiu jitsu I do t find it hard to believe that big John was invested in the Gracie name being pushed forward. Also what Tank said about big John standing him up before that was even a rule is true, that was the first time anyone was stood up for lack of action and there were some long ass boring ass fights before that that never got interrupted. The ufc didn’t like Tank, that’s a pretty established fact. I don’t think anything Tank said was out of line or some crazy conspiracy personally.

I like how big John clearly has an ego and doesn’t acknowledge that part 🤣 it’s funny too how he’s talking reckless about Tank now because he knows his health is bad.

Tank getting robbed of two UFC tournament championships is LIFE ALTERING shit. I don't blame him for being salty.

Don’t forget Tank and John were both in the 1997 Friends episode.

Anytime someone asks me if they should do something I now say "Uhuh if you WAAAANT to HAHA!"

It's pretty obvious John's family was very involved in the UFC. Tank has had five strokes and a liver and kidney transplant. Cut him slack. I doubt either one of these guys could fight for 17 minutes straight in one fight. Not to mention that was his third fight of the fight.

Tank never said Frye greased his ankles, He said his foot was slippery,

I'm older than Big John. I remember the reputation Tank had in Huntington Beach. I hoped that I would never run into him on the streets. He was a mean, angry man who wanted to fight all day long with anyone. He bragged about KO'ing people in bars. He was a menace. Yes, he was an alcoholic, BUT, not all alcoholics are violent. It's part of his nature. When he fought in the early days, I listened very carefully to what he had to say in interviews, and I studied his mannerisms. The vibe I always got was that he was an UNSTABLE individual, at best. When Vitor cleaned his clock, I could not be happier. The angry bully got stopped in his tracks. Tank went to a lot of HB bars, but there was one that he was fond of, and that's one of the bars where he was fighting and many cops were called and they arrested him. PD knew him WELL. That bar has since gone out of business and has been replaced by a restaurant, but whenever I drive by the building, I think of Tank.

John's fake laugh is horrible... Guilty

I listened to everything Tank said. I think Big John has like a 40 IQ...and is doing the best he can with the marbles he has to work with. Scary the guy was a cop. Giving a gun to a guy that dumb............bad move

The Michael Vick betting ad 😆

I believe tank. John for sure hated tanks attitude, remember John was a cop,of course he'd hate the lawless tankster. Plus I know for a fact he was a Gracie nut rider.

I'm on Tank's side

Maybe Tank should have thrown John out of the cage.

I was right there the last time Big John saw Tank. Ross Kellin, Jessica Borga, myself and Coach Hinkleman all wanted to meet Tank. Big John walked us over Tank was a complete gentleman with Big John and the rest of us. I don't know anything other than they were very nice to each other.

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Why did you stand them up ?

Big John is spot on, but I’m surprised you didn’t mention Don Frye throwing a fight to be able to beat Tank in the finals. It actually it happened 2x to Tank. He got screwed by managers fixing fights so they were fresher in the finals while Tank was gassed from the previous match.

I have heard several fighters say stuff about John McCarthy. I think John was kind of a know it all type about martial arts, but in fairness many people were. The early days were styles against styles. Tank was a mad man and the first 5 mins he was hell. I do think Tank was the first to do gloves. He was also the first to use the fence. I always rooted for Tank. I was at the UFC event where he fought Steve Nelmark. Thought he killed Nelmark

John should be the first ref in the hall of fame fr!

I see both sides of this. Tank was an admitted drunken menace. However, John obv was biased. John habitually stood up Tank's fights while he'd allow Dan Severn to lay on folks for 20 mins++. I'm not a Tank fan, but the man has a point about that. Standing him up possibly cost the man 2 UFC championships. So, Tank has a legit reason to be salty, IMHO.

I had a conversation with John about Tank. John commented how smart Tank was. Odd that they have issues.

John you are legit AF, Josh tell him I said so please

He said! She said! Who the f#ck cares! Who do you believe! Big John and Tank, are both legends! I'm just happy that, they are both still around! 💯

Memory has much less to do with what actually happened. And more to do with validating our current self. Every time you remember something, you change it a little little bit, but over time that little bit, becomes quite a bit. This is why eyewitness testimony is garbage and shouldn't be trusted. Also, Tank thinking John is out to get him, John represents authority and i dare say Tank perceives all authority over him as unjust. And John was a copper.

Was waiting for this one 😁💯

whose gym did he say tank was at in orange, california? i couldn’t understand/didn’t know of the name. anyone know??

was waiting for this one😅

Having met (and been trained) by John, you won’t find another man who speaks as honestly as he sees it.

Let me know, set it up! Get ahold of me. We can do it!

John u need to sit down for the next 2 or 3 years and write this down because u come across as a very fair and honest man and I think you'd be very fair about everything that happened we need all this history to be recorded by people like you ❤

When you're a drunk u don't remember much 🙄

Thanks for covering this! I been wondering when you would respond since he went on Rampage's Pod.

John, well stated. I enjoy your retelling of events in such a professional manner. The frustration is obvious, but you struck the right tone. Josh, you've progressed so much from your earlier days in terms of your candor. You've got a bright future in broadcasting of any type, you handsome devil, you.

Hey guys as a dog lover it’s a bit shitty to see Michael Vick peddling goods on this show. Sorry to sound like a Karen but I’ve heard horror stories about how he treated bait dogs.

Thanks for another great one

you guys should have played a clip of the Tank pod to better understand. i’m sure Joe wouldn’t mind lol

What about the time when Big John froze during the fight between Pat Smith and Scott Morrison. Thank God Pat stopped elbowing Scott on his own and stood up or that would have definitely ended in tragedy!

Without Tank Abbott we would’ve never known Tito Ortiz as the “Huntington Beach Bad Boy” 🤘😂

You guys are pitching a MICHAEL VICK betting site?! I'm starting to believe Tank.

As a senior citizen I remember everything from UFC 1 forward. All the other promotions that came around as well. John's amazing when he digs into the archives and starts bringing stuff back that even the old s*** heads can remember. This is awesome from a nostalgic standpoint, but disappointing to know that one of the most beloved characters of the sport isn't quite on the up-and-up on what he remembers. It is also sad that he's going through what he is, all we can do is hope and pray for the best outcome that he can possibly have.

Some say Tank "has no skills" but it takes skills to recognize skills. He knows how to throw punches, is good at wrestling, sprawling, brawling, and ground and pound. You don't beat as many fighters as Tank did and knock them out so viciously with no skills. As Tank said "imagine if he was in shape and actually trained what he could do" and imagine if he practiced BBJ. He fought mostly based on street fighting skills and natural talent and was one of the most feared and most entertaining fighters in history.

Thanks for clearing it all up.

Hmm Big John is one of the most respected men in MMA & basically helped create it. Tank was a fighter who shit talked everyone, had a bad relationship with every organization he was in, and damn near killed himself with lifetime abuse of drugs & booze. I think I'll side with Big John on this.

I will now use the audio to this video to put me to sleep 😴 💤

I live in Huntington Beach, what bar were you guys having lunch at?

I'm glad there's a follow up to that interview he did with Joe. Thanks guys.

Drunktank Abbot

Have been waiting for this

Big Johns word over Tank Abbot all day!

Thanks Jon for giving your side of it, I gotta admit though when tank mentioned the gloves I did picture you saying that. 😂 But I do believe you though.

John clearly had favorites & didn't hesitate to help them out.

I watched the Tank pod on Rampage's channel and really wanted to hear from BJM on it. Never thought I would, awesome guys!

Mma fighters, especially back then are not normal people. You kind of have to be to do what they did. I think they have questionable judgement and I would take Johns word over tanks any day.

Bottom line; when Tank was on Rogan's podcast and for all anyone could tell, Tank was stone sober. However, in the vast majority of the incidents from which Tank now holds bitter animosity toward John McCarthy and others, Tank was absolutely drunk beyond. Trying to recall most anything and from long years ago that occurred while you were drunk, is bound to be (only) what you think you remember. In his interview with Joe, Tank more than once stopped and said "I've lost my train of thought", and that while sober, and in-the-present. I kinda' feel bad for Tank. He's always been his own worst enemy it seems.

BIG JOHN WAS THE WORST REF EVER re watch the fights, the guy SUCKED

There’s 2 sides to every story. And Tank was a drunk but no matter all the sh!t Tank did, he’s UFC Royalty 😂🤩

There's too much for John just to be playing innocent all the time. If standing the fighters up wasn't a rule why did he do it? That's huge in a fight. Fight altering and probably career altering honestly.

Yall really just played a micheal Vick ad? Gtfo

JOSH, you need to go watch his interview on Rampages podcast. Jaxxon podcast. He had a lot more to say on there. He talked for over 2 hrs that day. He talked about John and Dana a lot that day. I would love to hear you and John’s thoughts on that one.

The thing is if you watched back then, its not that hard to believe. I think John went a long way to distance himself from back then, but some of those fights seemed pretty shady. Its not disputed that the ufc started as a jiu jistsu demonstration for the gracies, so i dont get why its that big of a stretch for what tank said.

Tank was right in what he said about John, and so was John in regards to starting that fight back up. UFC wanted action not laying in a neutral position

some great interviews from Josh! Really great stuff!

Big John is a MMA HALL OF FAMER

It’s quite obvious John is always on the mature side of every situation lbs

John, tell us the story behind "Hey Jude" 😂

John you’ve always been a stand up guy so we believe you Sir

I believe tank tho bc that Paul fight was sus

best duo on yt 😛😛😛

I’ve never seen John so fidgety and nervous. I figured Tank was full of it until I saw John’s reaction

I wish y’all could squash this. It’s sad watching a grown man talk about his health yet drank himself there and Mr. M having to hear that again after 600 plus fights in the organization. We are to emotionally invested with our past failures. God Bless y’all.

McCartney...LOL

I love Tank. Always have. I'm one of those fans from the mid 90s who was won over by his style and gimmick. But if one thing is extremely apparent, it's that Tank lives in his own reality. I'm sure he truly believes everything he says, but Big John comes across as legit as they come. I have NO DOUBT about anything McCarthy has to say here. Great podcast

I'm really disappointed that Josh didn't bring up Big John's stoppage in his fight with pitbull. 😂

Jesus, is Josh high AF or what? lol

Guilty ,,looks shook and always touching his mouth and scratching his nose 😂

John never ever got in there. Regardless alcohol. He never got in the cage. Herb did. Feelers whatever he got in there . Josh got in there. The only appropriate reply is i never got in there. Big john all the fighters live in your head especially tanks because you wouldn't fight

Okay Josh & John…. Now get Tito’s response 😂

Mr. McCartney is correct about back in those days everybody hated it when they were smooching on ground so standing them up was correct but Randelman clearly won either way

Listening to John setting the record straight is always entertaining

Everyone about to voice their complaints about Big John now

For the people destroying me in the comments from the last video asking for a response 🖕

Tank wrote three books, "Bar Brawler (2012)", "Street Fighter" (2019), and "Cage Fighter (2021)". In them he changes all the names to avoid lawsuits but with the more famous people you can tell who their alter ego is. For instance Art Davie is "Big Bart Shady" and John McCarthy is "Little Winchell Duncan". In these books he repeats everything he said on Rogan's show and lobs many other accusations as well.

You can tell mCcarthys ego is biiiiig!!!!

Big John was on the take and we all know it!!

😂😂😂 im starting to lose soo much respect for lil jon

Josh lovin every minute of this baby boomer drama

I was wondering how long it was going to take for this to come out.

Tank is a badass, im honored to say I live in the same city as Tank 🍻

Based on the stories involving his experiences with Tank, John has every right to hate him lol

Tank and Marc are solid people. Jon is a lifelong power trip guy. Used to be a cop and let's be honest, he is a biased ref

But why did he stand them up???

Why did they say in the old UFC intros that bug daddy was a former canadian heavyweigh boxing champion?

Would love to see John and Tank hug it out and rip a fat joint together.

Tank seems like someone that lies a bit… I mean he said he knocked out a pro boxer without any prior training… I doubt that. Especially considering how his hands looked during his fights. He’s one of those tough guys. That’s the vibe he gives off.

Good episode