Damn...

😭

can't blame them u a tomberry bro but no worries i'm a gamer i get the same lol

NGL, you got me on the first half 🤣

Uuh self burn. Those are rare.

The best FFXIV guides are all shitposts at the same time.

@@Miaossa Cough *JOCAT* Cough!

the Sseth Tzeentach of degenerate anime gorls. tank main, so confirming this guide is accurate. one note though: the 10,000 IQ option for dumbass dps rambo-pulling mobs is to immeditately type "brb sorry" as soon as it happens, then "back" when they die. they didn't know you were going to hit the vape and laugh, and neither did you [laugh even harder if a healer does this to you]

Right? I’m thoroughly impressed

@@highbrowstonebender7063 and larryzaur, its really just mixing humor with good advice. and lucy is impressively funny while adding the useful advice.

Now you just need to call the prez so he can make space for the mvp

Unfortunately my dad is still missing from getting milk. Though my love life exists and it is with someone equally as edgy.

why didnt zenos play DRK then in EW?

@@CleopatraKing cause his unga bunga brain want to see big numbers go brr brr

Calm down, Caustic

It's the only role you can absolutely suck at and get away with it as no one else wants to play it.

@@CleopatraKing because Zenos doesn't do mob pulls and boss fights are much deadlier as dps :)... though he should have gone for a caster if he wanted the true experience of "you will not see the second vuln stack"

Ya....until I upload mines😈

@@itsyaboiherman Mines explode go boom

@@billytuna733 Copperbell Mines, huh (but they no longer explode cuz the slime fight has been nerfed hard)

Jonathan is good to

No.

yeah, its nice to see her addressing ypyt and main character syndrome, these huge ego tanks need to go play dps or craft or something

What does one mean wall to wall pull? Just grab all you can before the boss room?

@@DragonbooruKai that’s exactly it, you run and pull all enemies on sight until the point before the boss or if there’s a blocked path lol.

Honestly I hadn't felt the need to do that since Stormblood maybe little in Shadowbringers. However if you feel the need to do so the big brain strategy is pulling everything then shirk the offender. That way you're still productively killing the mobs, you're just adding one more mob to the pack XD. Just be sure to save a big AoE to regain aggro. You're bming one guy not derailing the run. Bm responsibly.

that's what i did once lol. back when i was relatively new to tanking a dps kept pulling in haukke manor so i said "if you want to tank, play a tank class" and let them get to low hp before taking aggro. i would probably go about it differently now that i'm more used to tanking but the dps never pulled again the entire dungeon so it was definitely effective.

Sometimes you are dealing with some shit Ninja(I swear its always the Ninjas and the Dragoons) who decided running off to fight the next pack alone instead of finishing the fight was a good idea, and they can answer for their hubris, but you don't derail the rest of the team for their mistake, if shit aggros onto anyone else, or they drag it back, you clean up

I main healer and am disappointed how often I have to gently remind tanks they have mits. Ples, ples mit. I've had a couple tanks wall2wall, not use mits (also no sprint or arms), run out of LOS and die just to blame me. ples

@@sufficientphrase7769 Its worse than just "forgetting" they have it, legit the amount of people who have said to me that its literally useless (because they clearly can't do maths) is actually scary.

As a relatively new player, I only read the knockback/drawin part of the skill and thought it seemed pretty useless. once I read and understood what the skill actually does I pop it whenever I can during dungeons and what not.

"Work with your healer, don’t be a dick." This. So many tanks simply do whatever they've seen in some guide and seem to be incapable of adapting to different situations. Not every healer plays at the same skill level. Sometimes a healer might be afk a few seconds (maybe some irl distraction). Or they simply forget to sprint when you sprint and can't keep up. I've seen tanks sprint right at the beginning of the dungeon, pull everything and die cause the healer wasn't even paying attention in game yet, then blame the healer. No, fucker, it was your fault cause you didn't pay attention to what the healer was doing. In short, pay attention to your team and your surroundings and don't blame anyone but yourself if you didn't do that.

@@DarkShadow84 Me personally, I use the first pull as a feel out process if the healer doesn’t say anything. A small gripe for healers, if you’re new or not confident in big pulls, say something. Don’t wait until we wipe, and be like, “Oh, I’m learning the class, so I don’t know the buttons very well.” That’s a terrible excuse, communicate with your tank. For tanks, sometimes you just pulled too big, or didn’t use mitigation properly and died. Take the L and move on. Sometimes the healer messed up their heals, things happen, move on. For real, “My b” is all I need to see in chat, and water under the bridge. Own up to your mistakes, learn from them, use them to be better at your role. We’re all just trying to grind and enjoy the game, don’t ruin it for other players by being a dick. Especially if you got mentor role.

Help healers negate damage -> wrong do this so they can dps more so that you can go *FASTER*

I was expecting a mention of Fell Cleave abuse but when you think about it Jocat did it for her lol

I thought the same thing. As a DRK main I just love Blackest Night. It is a godsend and my go to mitigation... for like everything. I love doing big pulls and getting the free flood of darkness

@@cstaie85 its so trash in big pulls tho it last all of 2 seconds before it breaks xD

@@slimfastsubaru2043 TBN is just a shield based on max HP so it HAS to be combined with actual mitigation buttons to make it better. But knowing how much mitigation you need is a key because if it doesn't pop, you are losing your free OGCD.

@@Madoyon. yep. I string it based on the damage output to determine if I need rampart ect. But it always the one I pop at the beginning and then again 15 sec in since the combo strings restore enough mp to do it again every 15 sec without issues. Then the large pull is usually cleared in just under 30 sec.

Or that that other tank, in that other alliance party, who thinks they know what they're doing, but is trying to MT all 3 adds/bosses who are suppose to be kept separated. So why not just GIVE them all 3 so he can wipe the party, and maybe learn that no, they are NOT the only tank in the whole alliance. Though more seriously, why *doesn't* Shirk work on alliance co-tanks? That totally needs to be added too.

That would also make Tank Swaps less of a Pain. IDC if it dumb Down the game, I played enough classic wow for this shut to be a traumatic experience.

Also, if they do do that, don't make using shirk a habit. It's funny once in awhile but we all still need to clear content.

@@orciencor6001 Weirdly, it seems to always be a WAR or DRK that pulls every single boss. It's almost like they're way stronger than PLD or something...

What the heck. Are you calling female Au Ra degenerates? As someone who plays female Au Ra I would like to ask you not to expose me thanks.

UNGA BUNGA

yeah I fit the second part alright

Primal Rend goes BRRRRRRRT

*bloodwhetting/Raw Intuition goes brrt*

I mean you CHOSE to get beat up as a job...

Why do you hate w2w pulls?

I had no idea you could play like that. That's a badass fucking Dragoon

That Dragoon sounds like an absolute unit.

What an absolute fucking legend.

Thats a badass dragoon lmao

Wait, how long ago was this, I recall doing something like that in one of the dungeons in ARR(Forgot which one it was one if the late ones) for a Tank because they just wouldn't pull, I felt like a dick for doing it but my party was getting upset at the tank for not pulling big so I took the initiative, but in the end after that the Tank went full beast mode and we all kicked ass in the end.

Lob, Gap-Close, Lob. Every 3 mob pack. This is the way.

That's why i like when dps pull ahead tbh, it swarms them and i can just do a single aoe without having to wait for the GCD to come back from the ranged attack :'D. Faster to come and go!

I also use the ranged attack to keep aggro on the mob behind me that I've already pulled. Dps will still attack while you're wall to wall pulling so you may lose aggro and you need to keep it.

Follow up with watching "Jocat's Crap Guide to FFXIV - Tank" then watch the DPS and healer ones as well

It's called "Tanxiety" and when you finally make the plunge, you're gonna feel real silly for ever letting it hold you back ;-)

@@highbrowstonebender7063 Plunge heh

c/p from another reply I made to someone with similar concerns: It's called "Tanxiety" and when you finally make the plunge, you're gonna feel real silly for ever letting it hold you back ;-)

As long as you don't do what I did first time and forget that AOE skills are a thing everything should be fine, tanking is really not that hard especially as the dungeons get higher in levels and you get more toys as a result.

This is what we tell to the god of dead: "nah bro". Embrace immortality. Embrace tank priviledges (like seriously tank is the best to learn fights, you can mess up and survive)

I just came back after a year and am now undergeared for the post-msq dungeons. I asked the heals if I should pull slower and they said no and they were just distracted. Another wipe and they’re like “I’m using all my cd’s I don’t know why you’re still dying”. They straight didn’t even consider that it might be my fault. I’d asked if they wanted smaller pulls because I was squishy not because they weren’t healing enough. It was sync to 600 duty and I had the p1-4 570 ilvl stuff lol. At that moment I was just like, damn, what a chad healer.

It takes time for someone to get a feel of how many weiners they can keep busy at a time before collapsing from exaustion

@@octapusxft trial by fire!

@@symbolizedvirtue for example, I did not knew about arms length making enemies hit less often. At first I thought that Lucy was making an innuendo but she was serious

It gets worse if you're the healer, the tank does a baby pull, and you dps and the tank begs for heals at 90%hp.

"Wtf. Wow. Why isn't this sprout w2w pulling in satasha? What a pleb!"

as a healer main who reaches end game, there was a time I thought like this

That situation doesn't exist unless you made terrible life decisions beforehand... And it's a one way ticket to ban town per the Terms of Service.

@@Snark_x Dude, I brought this situation up because I go through it regularly when running my daily Leveling roulettes, especially now that there's a regular stream of sprouts coming thanks to FFXIV being up for sale again. This problem crops up either when running a new dungeon for the first time, or in the ARR dungeons, Aurum Vale and Amdapor Keep in particular where there are big rooms with trash that doesn't need to be pulled at all, if it can be helped. I never said anything about not doing my job as a tank. Hell, I often end up automatically pulling w2w so long as my gear has to be synced down. But if I stop, then there's a damn good reason for that. I have melee or caster dps, the healer is new, pulling too much of the big boy trash will kill me, and so on. Reasons mostly outside of my own comfort and trying to do what's best and most effective for my party of randos. What I am saying is that if I, the tank, have stopped, and you do not bring the trash you pull to where I have stopped, I am not going to go out of my way to save you because I have other party members to worry about keeping alive while they kill everything or heal everyone. But if you do bring the trash you pull to where I can get ahold of them, I will take the trash off of you so you can continue to do your job instead of mine.

so...legit question. trash pulls. is it better for an aspiring tank to just eat the mob AoEs, or actually attempt to avoid damage even if it means possibly brain-farting and forgetting to reset mobs to facing away from the party?

@@Xenmaru00 Probably avoid them unless you're purposely eating damage to break your TBN as Dark Knight, or the pack is low and you just wanna blow it the rest of the way up. The party can move to their backs again, too.

I could be wrong (or mis-remembering) but I'm pretty sure at 3 enemies or less single target actually is overall faster at killing the mobs, as for bad takes however I'm not surprised at all that people thinking that "number go up = better all the time", again as I mentioned in another comment I have talked to MANY people who think arms length is useless because it doesn't have an actual mitigation % and apparently can't wrap their head around "enemies attack less = less incoming DPS" and thats even before you try to explain exponential DPS mitigation as the pack grows in size.

@@QwertyBoredom122 ye most people only see the knock back resistance when it come to arms length and not the debuff it applies. And ye there is a turning point where singletarget stuff is more effective but I sadly have been seeing more than enough tanks doing it regardless of the amount of enemies. Ofc there are also the kind of tanks that don't use mitigation either because they wanna save the cds which I kinda did with the 30% reduction skills when I first tanked some stuff. I also have to admit that I usually just spam aoe in dungeons until every mob is dead or only two are left, mostly because I am lazy in that regard xD but ye the argument of "the single target ability has a higher potency than the aoe one so it deals more dmg" while bein surrounded by 6 mobs is just sth that completely caught me off guard the first time I heard/read that because I never imagined sth like dealing lower dmg but dealing that dmg several times resulting in more dmg overall could be not understood by someone.

literally how lol tanking in this game could not possibly be more braindead

When did you last try tanking? With recent changes Enmity should stay on the tank fairly easily as long as they are hitting all enemies fairly regularly w/ Tank Stance on.

@@olmfest3507 about a week and a half ago

Yes PROVOKE helps so much in wall to wall pulling! I know this is a joke guide with truth to it but it's shame it wasn't mention. When you're wall to wall pulling, dps will still attack the mobs to the point you start losing aggro, if not completely, and Provoke is the oh shit button when that happens. Happens to me every other dungeon when I tank.

@@Not-Batman Ah, I see. I'm glad it's recommended then. I thought moreso just for lower level dungeons -- but I do see the aggro meter reach max every time I use it. The last thing I need is people get all upset because they're being attacked, so I use that as soon as it's available and/or necessary. Honestly, they have no right to get all bent out of shape when _they're_ the ones running ahead; like, what do you think is going to happen? But, like I said: I just deal with it and continue trying to do my job.

@@LoneGamerNerd Actually I meant the dps attacking the mobs you've already pulled, meaning the groups of enemies *behind* you. That's a pretty big issue because at least with the dps pulling ahead of you, you can spam an aoe and get aggro without stopping the flow of wall pulling but losing aggro from enemies way behind me makes me panic. The healer is left vulnerable and if the dps are using aoe attacks, they may pull more than 1 enemy from the mob behind you. And I'm very far ahead. Provoke is a life saver then but you can only use it once and have to wait for it to reset. It has caused me many stressful situations lol

@@Not-Batman You're not kidding. I try to use it as quickly as I can before someone is knocked out.

You pull, you tank only applies to friends that try to beat me in the race to the boss.

@@tomtimko9185 You only pull as a DPS if the tank is slacking. it gives them incentive to either do better or fuck off. You should only pull as a DPS if you know you can handle the pull. It goes both ways

I always use that on pulls :)

strip off your tank cooldowns now let me benediction you from 10k to 100k uuauuahh

strip off your tank cooldowns now let me benediction you from 10k to 100k uuauuahh

Imagine refusing to AoE. That's some next level petty bs.

@@watchmework7672 to be clear, he was doing AOE except that one pull. Which makes it even more infuriating as that clearly wasn’t a mistake.

Oh my god they actually kicked him? Every time I get one of these morons the vote kick fails I'm so jealous

When I'm on my BRD, literally the first thing I do when the last mob in any pull dies is hit Peloton and watch the entire party go to warp. It cuts off so much travel time.

"Funny yet accurate" is kinda Lucy's thing. And she does it well. Her writing skills are second only to her skills with Adobe Character Animator, which are truly breathtaking.

they probably just wanna learn what it's like to be a real healer

Good lord no..., I had to tank a boss on at around 20% health on my Dragoon because our Tank got crushed, it was just me the healer and another DPs, but holy crap that was a long 2 minutes but we got the boss, the healer was good and keeped us alive, I don't what beef the healer had with the Tank but thank God it was the last boss of it.

@@Ragnarok182 Oh, when your tank dies and no one else is, you're super focused on keeping those mfers alive. Literally, if you don't heal them every gcd, they'll die. I guarantee your HP was going up and down like a kid on crack

I see you too, are a person of culture

Or, just play warrior & forget about the green one.

Honestly, I have never met a sprout healer that can't adjust to wall-2-wall pulls in 4 man content if a tank is not 0 iq meat that can't press CDs or move out of AoEs. Unless they only spam cure, physick etc. for the entire run overhealing a poor tank fella until MP drops to 0 or unless they are heavily undergeared. Come on, it's the easiest role in the game. DPS players have a lot more pressure on them than any of those roles people mistakenly consider "difficult". If you are a player below average skill-wise, playing healer or tank will have the least impact on your party's performance than a DPS that can't deal damage and die to mechanics all the time.

this is so cute. got nostalgic reading it, its been only a few months I started but made me realize I don't really get those pop-ups anymore. there was SO much to learn ahaha

@@kixmix2450 aww yess!! there's like a 100 things popping up every second, lots to learn ^-^