For those that have not tried their hand at fallout tactics, there's actually a lot of drivable vehicles. And for those that have not tried their hand at fallout tactics, there's actually a lot of drivable vehicles in that game.

The Sherman in Fallout: Tactics was also probably an easy choice because they can be found in museums (and the BOS has no qualms about raiding a museum for technology they can use and frankly in the wastes a tank is a game-changer as most people can't even take down someone in combat armor - so a tank, even one tank, is a force multiplier! The only thing better is a vertibird!)

So let me understand: The Institute can crank out androids, the BoS can build airships, retrofit Vertibirds, and restore Liberty Prime from scratch, and maintain lots of power armor, *Yet we have all these powerful vehicles sitting around rusting...*

Is everyone forgetting the missile carrier shown at the end of the fallout 4 cinematic?

I love that in every video hes LETHALLY IRRADIATED

In my opnion the tank in Fallout 4 is probably inspired by the M26 Pershing medium tank ( I know it was classifies as a heavy tank during WW II but post war was reclassified as a medium)/ M46 Patton MBT the turret/hull design has similar elements to the fallout 4 tank and the duel cannon appears to be a futuristic version of the 90 mm M3 gun which was the main gun of the M26/M46

If only the Brotherhood of Steel could get some of those vehicles working like they did with their Vertibirds

It is worth noting that in California there is a massive tank museum which keeps a lot of old vehicles from a number of countries, and it's far enough away from any military base or population center that it wouldn't have been nuked. We can assume that a faction like the Gun Runners or BoS would make finding this museum a top priority, and many of the vehicles that you would see still usable after all that time would be the mechanically simplest among them, such as the M4 Sherman.

I think I understand why the APC is so big compare to real life. Because they were design to also transport power armored soldier.

Fallout 4's "APC" strikes me more as a rapid support infantry fighting vehicle with an optional troop carrying component, akin to a BMP-3 in terms of design philosophy. Looks wise, it obviously draws parallels to wheeled APC and IFV designs like the Stryker, BTR series and the MOWAG Piranha.

Nice to see a Schwimmwagen in the Fallout Universe, but weird to think that the US would use the Kübelwagen over their own Jeep platform, just logistically speaking today there are much more Jeeps then Kübelwagen and even fewer Schwimmwagen

The hose on the humvee was part of a snorkel kit. This is why it came out of the engine compartment.

Since fallout tech is near 50s tech you could find Sherman's,halftracks,Pershing and maybe some Patton variants

0:22 not to be pedantic but you've left a second take in here

It's more likely that some of these older vehicles probably we're museum prices that were repurposed.

Finally someone that knows the difference between a tank and a artillery piece

Tank design probably stagnated due to the advent of power armour as well

I think that just because many vehicles looked the same, doesn't mean they weren't newer versions of older designs, incorporating newer tech. So much of the 50's aesthetic is seen elsewhere, it kinda makes sense that a lot of the military gear would also still look the same, even if it has a different function entirely

Theres been lots of double barrel cannons on tank, including the japanese during ww2 the Germans with 4 cannons and the ontos which had 6 cannons

0:16 THAT LOOKS LIKE 1 HP, your name lives up as the truth.

1:15 that tank could have been using a mechanical loading system instead of having a person loading the tank by hand a machine would be doing all the work meaning that there would be less crew inside the tank and most of the time a tank that has a mechanical loading system loads faster than having a human pick up a shell and slide it into the cannon breech

You'd think a tank would work

You know it actually makes sense that the US Military would focus on heavy tanks designed to maximize firepower. The role of MBTs role was filled by robots and later on Power Armor.

The small forward guns on the Fallout 4 APC would probably be smoke and fragmentation grenade launchers. A lot of apc and tanks have smoke launchers to provide cover. The main gun was probably like the small howitzer on some panzer 3 variants meant for low velocity high explosive for infantry and demolition of structures, not for fighting tanks or vehicles.

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The dual cannon feature is also used in the AMOS self propelled mortar system which features two 120mm heavy mortars which is currently in use by Finland and Sweden. The Australian WW2 cruiser tank with the double battled gun was used as a test bed in place of a larger gun which was not yet available, the idea was that the two guns fired simultaneously would simulate the same amount of recoil as the larger gun thus proving the turret was up to scratch

The tank was probably an upgraded version of the Pershing and had a little bit of Patton designs on it

The armored vehicles in Fallout are very impractical.

I think the M4 Shermans and other older vehicles make sense as the fallout timeline diverged around the time of WWII and the culture we see around us in the pre-war scenes of Fo4 is that of 1950’s America- a time where these vehicles were still in use.

The Sherman isn't the most unreasonable tank to appear in fallout. Sure it's ancient, but they were reliable, and easy to build and maintain. I could see the BOS maybe having access to plans of a sherman from some museum archive, and a small vehicle factory, maybe a tractor or construction machinery plant. The simplicity of the sherman's design means it wouldn't be implausible that a prewar vehicle factory could be converted into a small tank asembly line. Hell a lot of shermans WERE built in converted car plants irl. It'd be a lot easier than trying to build a nuclear powered twin gunned battletank.

Forgot about the interceptor from fallout 2, based on Mad max. But everything else you said was really compelling, I've wondered a lot about some of the vehicles inspirations to the game thank you!

The Maus (Pzf VII) was made to have 2 canons. A 128mm main canon and secondary 75mm canon. Both main battle tank canons in their own right for the period.

The first tank actually made me think of the tanks the Terran republic uses in planetside 1 & 2

Tactics holds up well even today. The pipe from the engine is an improved exhaust. The scouter is based off of the kubelwagen, but it could also be the later schwimmenwagen, I think the former because of how angular it is.

I think I know why all the old vehicles are still in service all the new stuff was in Anchorage Alaska and just Alaska so they had to pull all the old stuff out to use for repressing rebellions

btw the AC3 Thunderbolt tank had 2 25pdr howitzers, not 18pdrs. Only other double gun tanks I know of were casemate designs, the German VT tank prototypes of the 1970s, and a ww2 russian design known as KV 7-2. In both cases the bulk of the twin gun setup was largely only made possible by the lack of a rotating turret.

Fun fact about the Sherman is that it, like the soviet t34, is still being used in front line government militaries around the world. The Sherman is still popular in Central and South America and the T34 in Central Africa and parts of the Middle East. Some tanks are far more common than others and have space for sustainability packages...aka, upgrades. So in my opinion seeing the Sherman in fallout isn't that big of a shocker.

The Mammoth tank was in Red Alert 1. The Apocalypse tank was from Red Alert 2 and 3. The Mammoth inspired other RTS double-barreled tanks (this part can be debated) such as the Grizzly tank in Halo Wars 1 and 2.

I think the Brotherhood of steel got the older vehicles such as the upgraded Sherman by scavenging war museums

Recently found what looks like mills in fallout 4 n it made me wonder what the manufacturing tools of fallout might be like

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Late to this party, I know but just wanted to say how much I appreciate these vids. Also the hose on the tactics bos humvee goes to some large barrels at the back. I believe they are possible reserve fuel containers for longer distance travel and recon.

I think it's plausible that all these really old weapons and vehicles are just much easier and cheaper to restore and maintain than the complex, electronics-stuffed modern ones.

Another similar tank design would be the Grizzlies from Halo Wars featuring 4 tank treads and dual cannons

The APCs seem a bit tall, but I'd say they're a pretty normal size compared to IRL APC/IFVs.

1:25 there also exist the AMOS Sweden mortar system that also has double barrell

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The tank in fallout 4 seems to be an Anti-Air weapon system, it's the only reason logically you would put 2 guns in one turret. You fire the first barrel see where your shot goes correct your aim and then fire the second, proxy fuse shells could be used with great effect against high-flying bombers or even nuclear warheads. It makes sense that this vehicle was deployed in city areas just before the nukes fell as a desperate attempt to shoot them down.

Reminds me way more of the Mammoth Tank from Red Alert than the Apocalypse Tank from RA2 tbh

In halo wars the grizzly tank has a double barrel turret and has 4 independent tracks similar to this tank! Also in destroy all humans 2 they have double barrel tanks as well.

The up armoured humvees tube running from the front to the back is an exhaust snorkel.

Actually I would say the tank is closer to either the M48 Patton or the T29 tank with twin 105mm guns. The 'APC' is a wheeled IFV ( they are becoming more popular in modern militaries), I would say half LAV-25 and half Stryker. Lastly, the humvee is still in production and in use but was replaced by the Oshkosh JLTV for combat roles.

the real life nuclear tank, was designed for combat in the middle of nowhere, namely Alaska and Canada’s norther territories. Watertight so bridges are not needed, nuclear power to last when your eons from the nearest military base where a gasoline or disel tank would need to refuel.

Well, America was at war with China, at the time of the Great War. So it's not hard to imagine, that America need an Armored Force. But by the time that the power Armor came into existence, then the Tanks started to be replaced by the Power Armor. How ever some Tank units must have been ot been completely Faced out by the time Nukes where Falling. Because, we can find tanks in the Game. So to answer the question. The Tanks, Humvees, and Scout Jeeps where used by the U.S. Army up until Power Armor provided to be far more useful in Combat. So the Tanks, Humvees, and Jeeps where slowly getting replaced by Power Armor. However, not all Tank Units got there Power Armor as we can find the Tanks in Game. The APC's on the other hand, are to transport the Regulator Rifle Squads, and Soldiers. I can also see them, being used to transport Power Armored Units to Battles, or to there objectives, and eta. At lest that's what I like to think.

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wow that APC's main gun tho...what could it be? Sheridan 152 mil? and that side gun looks a bit like M2 75mm. idk just guessing from the shape.

Maaaan it would’ve been amazing if you sided with the brotherhood gave them a better foothold on the commonwealth, which meant they would find and fix these vehicles. Randomly seeing them driving around the wasteland and engaging with enemies.

Almost all of the newer vehicles would probably found near the front lines, reserve units would have been issued older gear and are used in the rear ares, this includes Boston, plus after the great war museums and vehicle storage depots would have been scavenged resulting in many of these vehicles being returned to service. Older vehicles are usually less complicated mechanically so they are easier to repair and restore.

So the Chrysler tanks is more fun with it being designed to be near nuclear blasts with cameras for viewports to prevent blindness to a blast.

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I actually think: if the boomers can raise a ww2 b 29 (300 years old) from a lake.... and do reverse engeniering.... as well gun runners do with weapons. I think the ncr could have modified ww2 shermans made on a reactivated industries or factories like the ones of the Pitt but in california with the same process of reverse engeniering, if they found a complete model. Actually i remember the NCR has a mechaniced division and in the wiki you can see that actually de developers say (for the concept of ban buren) the ncr its probably one of the only factions with working tanks. I just want to see that please.... ww2 super modified sherman on the ncr VS ghoul horses with cybernetics like k9,s in the legion.

They were probably museum or boneyard vehicles that were pressed into service for crowd control and to deal with civil disorder. One of the problems with Fallout games is that steel would've been recycled long before the events of the games. This would be especially true for alloys like those used on tanks which would be better for making tools.

Could be that due to the resource crunch it made more sense to keep mass producing a fewer amount of models than to have a latest and greatest for a year or two.

The unnamed tank in the beginning with a duel main cannon and double track configuration is CLEARLY fallout's version of halo's M850 Grizzly.

I think why most factions don't use vehicles is either limitation of the game such as Fallout New Vegas or an in lower region like the capital Wasteland Brotherhood and the Brotherhood and Fallout 4 not using ground Vehicles due to well limitations of the DC metro area and in Fallout 4's cases them coming in by Airship carrying Liberty Prime somehow so it may have been more effective to carry more power armor than Vehicles due to power armor being able to do what they mostly wanted and to transfer people around the vertibird does the job pretty well

The excuse for humvees is the sure fckin amount of those thing that we've made I mean have you seen the stats on how many humvees the military has obtained

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And the four tracked tank must be inspired by a *AE phase 1 tank project* a America four tracked tank project which in term was believed to be concepted as a NUCLEAR PROTECTED TANK

If you compare a car from today and a car from 1990, you will see that the older car is way easier to fix and maintain (less electronics, less complicated parts, etc.). Maybe the vehicles in Fallouts 2077 are so complicated that the average wasteland mechanic cant repair hem so they have to use older vehicles.

I like RadKing's early content now, he shows the actual game footage of the subject.

the dual main cannon tank reminds me of the mammoth tanks from command and conquer and i love it

The Wheeled Vehicle is close to the M1126 Stryker. It has a 120mm Cannon on top with high rotational mobility.. just dont shoot at 90°. If the vehicle is relatively empty it can roll itself onto its side

i have a theory on this tank with two guns. it has an autoloader and while they may be the same size, they are different calibers. one is good for anti-tank rounds such as HESH and HEAT and ATAP, and the other being HE, white phosphorous, and other antipersonel rounds. the reason it has 4 sets of tracks is so that way it can go sideways while firing directly behind or ahead or in any direction while the tank moves in a different direction and to be firing two different kinds of ammunition from only one vehicle. since we have much smaller power source in the tank, we are able to carry more rounds. and since we have an auto-loader and the tech from the "computers" inside the power armour and your pipboy, we have the commander scouting out enemies and targeting them, and while we could also have him aim and fire the guns, we'll put a gunner in there to make things simpler. we have a gunner who's using an electromechanical sytem to rotate the turret aided by the "computer", we have the barrels tilting up and down automatically and then you set it on the final pinpoint target and fire while we have the driver who is set up to go forwards and backwards and co driver who is set up to drive left and right so they both work together to drive it. mind you, this is for ease, they dont need to be doing that, cause either one can do it all, this just makes it easier as they dont have to focus on as much at once. so you have 4 people in total. lets look at a tank that also has two cannons(this is from ww1) the British Mk V tank. it Uses 8 people. 6 gunners, a commander, and ONE driver. so it has machine guns(this has no machine guns so minus two gunners right there, then 2 gunners per gun. that's 3 gunners we dont need. then it only has one driver. that means no backup driver so if the driver gets knocked out, your screwed. our tank has one gunner, a commander who can take over the gunner's job and still do his own easily, a driver and a backup driver who in theory could also be trained in gunnery to take over the gunners job. so we have a 4 man tank with redundency and can do more than a standard tank.

The base crawler would have had a major problems like the German Maus. Few fanboys of the Maus realize that it couldn’t cross any bridge in Europe at the time. They had a snorkel arrangement to cross rivers, but the crew had to removed to use the wired remote to cross the river.

Got to correct you on the first one: the turret shape is quite similar to the Pershing and other US tanks around that time, right after WW2. Because of this, it sort or seems like a fallout version of a T82

There's also the Overlord tank in C&C Generals. Dual barrel tank with segmented tracks.

I kinda figured the turret would have a robotic loader

the duel cannons on the first tank in the vid kind of remind me of the type of guns you'd see on a StarWars space ship

ok 3rd vid i see of u and now i finaly subbed, that intro sounds gives me the jimmies, and i love FO universe ^^ so its a win/win XD

Let's record the tank at night! Amazing idea

Correction there's another double barreled tank it's the *ST-2 TANK PROJECT* It was a Soviet double barrel tank concept

2:12 Actually, that was purely a testing dummy. See, the Australians were developing the Australian Cruiser IV and needed to know whether the III chassis could handle the 17-pounder AT gun's recoil. So, they took the armament of the III, their custom-designed 25-pounder Gun-Howitzer, and doubled it up on the test chassis. The test was successful, but the entire AC series was canceled shortly after the IV prototype was completed when the American logistics chain was able to reach Australia, guaranteeing a steady supply of tanks.

The apc probably has a 20mm chain gun on the front and either a 37mm or 75mm top gun if your going by size

That Australian tank with twin cannon was actually just to test how the tank could handle recoil and iirc, they did not use 18pdr (did you mean 17pdr?) but the 25pdr

i think that there were other newer vehicles but many of them needed a lot of repare and given how the wastland is where a lot of the tech needed to fix them is old rusty and heavly damaged i think that the older ones were used because of simplicity and availabuility and how easy they were to use and fix up like the sherman theres a lot of them and the blueprints may have survived and some may have survived also so they had this tank that they could reproduce and manufacture that was easy to fix.

Considering the relatively large scale automation in fallout, especially military I think the double barreled tanks are loaded by fast acting automated means.

C&C reference? Yes please.

I think the 1950’s ascetic carried over to military vehicles . After all how many years after the Great War did they stop having robots that looked like Robby the robot?

hello! so the twin guns on the tank are very likely auto-loaded, since robots are a staple of fallout, its nearly impossible to think they didn't have some form of autoloader mechanism. the tracks are also a particularly interesting detail, as they are staggered. one set being further out than the other. this would make the tank near impossible to turn, however it would greatly increase weight distribution and give it better ground overall pressure. on a sillier note, it has mine rollers for its forward set of tracks. but not the rear ones. so... it would.. still just run over mines. also, it has a single commanders copula and no other access hatches, leading me to believe this vehicle is likely mostly automated. a big robot, with a commander giving it direction. also, did anyone notice how they are scaled fine in fallout 4, with the hatch as large as a real tank. but in fallout 76 they are way smaller??? the hatch is too small for a person to enter. why??

I like to think all the super outdated old military vehicles arent the old designs on the inside, but same on the outside for cohesion. For a military used to clearly defined good guy and bad guy armanents, that possibly didnt really have to deal with vietnam or any middle eastern wars due to the timeline divergence

Unpopular opinion if it's such a huge vehicle it cannot move on its own power then it's not a vehicle that's a base with wheels

Bit late to the party but the double-tracked design may have been inspired by the Chrysler AE Phase I which was experimented on in the 1950s

So for the fallout 4 tank. The turret and suspension are based heavily off of the American m26 Pershing tank just with an added gun barrel, the gun barrels themselves based off of m103 heavy, and the track system is from a mock up from Chrysler buuuuuuuut with how halo popularized the idea of "more tracks = future" it could have just been that instead. On another note you're 100% correct about multi gunned turrets being less effective as they increase work load on the crew, one thing to note is that multi tracked designs are also just as bad of an idea. It increases surface pressure sue to less of the track touching the ground for the same space as one long track and going over a log, it could get caught in between it and get jammed there. The app from fallout 4 is loosely based on the japanese type 87 (closest i could find that looks like it) thats modified. Also for the cannon on it, British royal engineers have the avre variant of vehicles which have a howitzer system in place of a typical tank gun so it could be based on that. One last bit is that the crew are split into two compartments but in a different way. Commander, loader (if there isn't an owuto loader), and gunner all sit in the turret which had a turret basket (usually at least) and the driver is in the hull of the tank being set as far forwards as safely possible for ease of driving. Hope this helps for any future videos and if you need, I'd be happy to be a tank nerd for any questions you might have at any point.

Reposting part of a reply i made to another comment: The Sherman was the first mass produced modular tank which could, and did, have everything changed about it during the war and with immense amounts of growth for improvement, retrofits and even reusing of older equipment, all by design. Slamming a nuclear engine in it and probably even going so far to keep them in production would be a very Fallout thing to do. The Shermans in production by the end of the war were mostly M4A3s and M4A2s with 76mm(w) HVSS with some M4A4's with 75mm for the British. I can certainly see nuclear powered M4A7s 76mm(w) HVSS with some of the improvements that the end of the war didn't bring to the Sherman like the 2 plane stabiliser.

The twin cannon tank was clearly inspired by the GDI Mammoth tank from Command and conquer.

Lol I’m getting the impression that in fallout tactics the BoS essentially became ‘Nam grunts of the wasteland

The American m3 lee tank has two main cannons and a few mqchineguns , it has one 75mm main gun and a 37mm gun mounted in the hull

I believe the fallout tactics Humvee is gas powered and that hose you see from the front to the back is how the pump the wood gas into the motor Wood gas was popular during ww2 and the Great Depression especially in Germany where fuel was scarce it’s even used today I use one to power a generator

Fallout 4 tank is competing with the bob semple tank for worst design ever

First tank is modified M46 Patton, second looks like a mix between an APC and an IFV, third is the M4 sherman, fourth is one of those space shuttles carriers, fifth is fallout only, sixth is a Humvee, seventh is fallout-only,