No wonder they are wild bunch like their older siblings, Drogon is like Caraxes and Rhaegal is much like Meleys. Is suppose Viserion is female like mommy Dreamfyre. Ahh dracarys!

@@natanieltiglao540 Odd though if we consider that Dany allegedly knows that all her Dragons are male.. what makes you think Viserion is a girl, might I ask? 🤔

@@thalmoragent9344 the least wild of them.

@@natanieltiglao540 I mean, even females can be aggressive in nature. Not as often but they're no secret to it. And not to mention Viserion acts like basically a big, scaly cat. A chill, sleepy boi. And gets aggressive if anyone threatens Dany, of course. So basically, like any Big or House Cat, but well, more emotional I guess, as a Dragon and not a Feline of course

What‘s about that: “Dragons are neither male nor female, Barth saw the truth of that, but now one and now the other, as changeable as flame. The language misled us all for a thousand years. Daenerys is the one, born amidst salt and smoke. The dragons prove it.”

not in the books.

I thought the egg that Daemon took in the show which is golden would eventually be given to Visery's first born son Aegon and become Sunfyre and (spoiler warning)(foreshadowing)

@@crashglassbar5879 it was green not golden.

in episode 2 we saw Rhaenyra take back the egg Deamon stole and place it in a fire pit so it can't be Rhaegal, i imagine it will hatch soon mind!

@@jimmymcgill2557 did you read my edit? X'D

i have now lol Dany's eggs were said to be from near Asshai, probally Stygai as there are dragons and all sorts of crazy things there! either way maybe we'll find out later in the show, i wonder how may seasons we'll get and when the 'dance' will be.

This is too funny

And Vhagar killing Arrax is like a great grandmother killing her great grandchild.

@@nasirisrarhussain4477 Vhagar: So you see i killed my granddaughter and grandgradson

I dont think dragons understand this

@@mursi2734 which grand daughter did she kill?

Wait so vermithor kill his own son, and caraxes kill his grandma sheee....

I agree with this for the most part - but we know from source materials that Meleys had eggs as she was dubbed 'the red queen' and only those who had eggs got that moniker. Seasmoke may have come from Meleys and why Laenor got to keep his dragon as it came from his mother's dragon and out of the reach of the Dragonkeepers / royal family. Also - QuickSilver is described as a she-dragon.

Dude, if Morning is the last dragon left, who did she mate with to lay eggs? Or maybe Dragons lay eggs without mating? Or perhaps both, and would explain why they kept getting smaller.

It is possible that Cannibal is Quicksilver's clutch mate and might explain his hostility towards other dragons. Maybe he went berserk after Balerion killed his mate so is now hostile to the rest of his father's brood.

They are both red at least!

@@piratesswoop725 and im pretty sure both are said to be fierce.

One is deformed.

@@dannypatrick9361 Not deformed. He's just built different.

@@batperson3532 built diffy

except it extremely inaccurate seeing as its confirmed that dragons are genderless and can lay eggs by themselves

@@matthewmonteiro6736 I just block that out of the lore 🤷🏻‍♂️ in certain situations I can go along with them changing sex, but nah in my head they mate.

@@matthewmonteiro6736 also only a few are known to have laid eggs in the book. You’d think most of them would have laid eggs or at least all the older ones if they were gender less

@@matthewmonteiro6736 I think they have gender. It's just that males can't give birth, but it's possible to be stronger. And the females continue the race but without having sx

Well, this tree is somewhat speculative to be honest, apart from Syrax -> Morning, no relation is explicitly stated in the books. Kuddos however to the author, this tree seems to be quite logical in terms of timeline and coherent with the few clues we get from the books. But it fairness, I would have liked a disclaimer stating this is a theory.

From where did the red from caraxes and meleys appeared tho? No other dragon before them was red?

@@mursi2734 Vermithor's bronze or Sheepstealer's brown mixed with whichever paler female they had the eggs with maybe? Or an unnamed ancestor passed down a red scale gene? GRRM also describe Vhagar as Bronze with green-blue highlights once.

@@DraconimLt while i can understand it with vermithor sheep stealer is younger than caraxes and meleys i think.

@@mursi2734 maybe, maybe not. Sheepstealer hatched 'in or after 34 AC', it never said when Caraxes did at all (though he was both 'young' and rideable in 72 AC), from this I always thought Sheepstealer was at least slightly older than Caraxes, but now looking in more detail, I'm not so sure! Vermithor was hatched in 34-35 AC, and was 'nearly 100' years old when he died in 130 AC. Sheepstealer was hatched 'in or after 34 AC' and 'well over 50' at the start of the Dance. Problem is this isn't specific, and we don't know the exact year or how much over 50. We DO know that Sheepstealer hatched when King Jaehaerys I Targaryen "was still young", and he was born IN 34 AC, so Sheepstealer could have hatched anytime in the next 20-30 years really! In other words, he could be anywhere from the same age as Vermithor to several years younger than Caraxes! Depends on the dates Caraxes and Sheepstealer hatched, which we don't know. They could even be siblings from the same clutch for all we know! Makes sense if they and Meleys were siblings by colours: red, red, and brown. More sense than the random colours in this vid at least. From that Vermithor probably is older. Probably old enough to be Caraxes parent at least, maybe even Sheapstealer's, if he is 'only' 70ish to Vermithor's almost 100, though that would mean he was born *way* after 34 AC, in about 60 AC... we just don't know enough to be sure, which is why this vid is just pure guesswork.

@@DraconimLt What would happen if you mix the silver of silverwing and the bronce of vermithor? which colors would get created

I like to think of them like chickens

when syrax lay their eggs caraxes was very far away but seasmoke was in kingslanding.

@@leventmerlinsavana4554 That’s an interesting observation. But it’s clear by the design that they’re meant to be Syrax and Caraxes offspring. In the show we know Syrax laid at least one clutch of eggs. We know this as Rhaenyra tells Viserys and Alicent that if syrax brings fourth *another* clutch then Aemond can have one of the eggs. Dragons tend to lay in clutch’s of three. We see this with Drogon, Rhaegal and viserion. We see it with the clutch Daemon found (they were probably Stormcloud, Morning and little viserys egg which never hatched). So it’s safe to assume Vermax, Arrax and Tyraxes were all laid in the same clutch of eggs. Jace had a cradle egg which means Syrax probably laid her eggs before Jace was even born. There would have been enough time for Caraxes to have got Syrax pregnant. Plus we don’t know when Daemon actually left, was it a day or 3 years after Rhaenyras wedding? Can dragons store sperm like reptiles in our own world? How did Dreamfyre make prince Baelons egg? It was only her and Syrax in the dragonpit at the time. The only possible explanation would be Caraxes when he came to visit her from the vale.

@@leventmerlinsavana4554 Sorry for such the long explanation. In short, I think Syrax and Caraxes mated on Rhaenyras wedding night. Then syrax gave birth to a clutch of three dragons around the time jace was born (around a year after the wedding). That clutch would have been Vermax, Arrax and Tyraxes. Dragons usually give birth to three eggs at a time, I doubt Rhaenyra would throw them away. They probably just kept them. Although I might have to rewatch the scene where Jace and Luke pick out Joffreys egg. I’m not sure if they picked one of Syrax’s or a random egg from the dragonpit.

It’s not 20yrs, it’s 80🤨

@@Lookie752 ?? No, the age difference between Quicksilver and Dreamfyre or Silverwing is around 20-30 years, not 80. Silverwing and Quicksilver were probably from the same clutch of eggs laid by Meraxes. Syrax and Sunfyre also come from Meraxes line, but not in the same Generation as Quicksilver, most like they were their offspring or that of Silverwing based on dates and coloring. All this dragons are golden/silver in color like Meraxes, suggesting they are directly related.

@@Alejojojo6 Yep. Meraxes Quicksilver, Dreamfyre, Silverwing Syrax, Sunfyre

Caraxes has to be from dreamfyers clutch since him and meleys come from the same clutch

After Vhagar im want sooo much see Balerion the Black Dread

@@targonyt7258 and I think we will eventually I hate waiting but I guess that's all that we can do hopefully they make a HBO TV series of the conquest

Yup it’s said they can be both and just because one dragon is bigger does that mean it’s older 👀

@@JH7xXCampus Drogon versus Caraxes is a perfect example of age and size. Drogon was only 7

Not eso solo es un invento de los fans

@@Solo-Skywalker that's only in the show,they exaggerated the size of drogon.

@@predatorexiliado784 no it isn’t George definitely said this

It depends on how dragon genetics works. It could be that if dragons of two different breeds are bred together, you would have some of one breed and some of other in the clutch rather than crossbreeds

Caraxes isnt one of those types, they already said he is defective and couldnt even fly properly if it wasnt for his leg wings

@@guifdcanalli He is the “wolf skull” type. He’s just got a long neck, we will see more with his skull but a shorter neck and less serpentine body.

@@joshuaadams6565 his skull is one thing, his body shape is another, the producers said Caraxes is somewhat deformed

@@s8theninjawarrior916 And they implied his long and lanky body was the deformity. Not his head shape, which is clearly canine inspired.

Dreamfyre born nearly 20 years after the death of Mera es. Ironic, Vhagar is the ancester of all Targaryens dragons, but Viseyna line after her son. Rhaenys is the ancestor of all Targaryens, but the line of Meraxes end with Quicksilver.

ah, someone ho actually read the books i see :P

I agree that the Cannibal came later, but you just contradicted your own argument there.

@@andrelascasas3156 how so? I don’t think that the cannibal was anywhere near the size of vhagar, more vermithor and silverwing sized, dragons being bigger despite age has a limit

@@charlieswanney8610 you said a younger dragon can be bigger than an older one, so Cannibal being smaller than Vhagar cannot be the reason why he has to be younger than Vhagar

@@andrelascasas3156 that’s like saying that syrax could be bigger than vermithor. Yes younger dragons can be bigger, but not bigger than dragons that have 50+ years on them that would just be stupid

Lol no that is just a theory put forwars by a septon, far beyond a fact. In fact they are most likely not hermaphroditic cause if they were then all dragons would lay eggs.

It's not proven, probably it's false, that's why some Dragons never laid eggs.

​@@guruxara7994most of them didn't . Only Vhagar , Meraxes , Dreamfyre , Silverwing , Syrax did

Sunfyre ? Oupsss sorry

Sunfyre oups sorry

sunfyre oups sorry

Caraxes had a birth defect . He's deformed , he and Meleys came from the same clutch . Vermithor is probably their father and Dreamfyre is obviously their momma

And Vhagar killing Arrax is like a great grandmother killing her great grandchild.

The Battle Above* the God's Eye. The Battle Beneath the God's Eye was the one where Maegor Targaryen alongside Balerion the Black Dread killed his nephew Aegon the Uncrowned and his dragon Quicksilver.

Balerion and Vermithor killed their sons 😂😂

The one Daemon 'borrowed' could be any of Dreamfyre's eggs. But it would be a cool easter egg for sure. The egg looked like Drogon's too.

Well if she's the mom of Dreamfyre ( she probably is ) then most of the other dragons are her grandchildren or great grandchildren

There was Balerion too

Baelon's egg could have come from the hatches before 50 AC. Sheepstealer was not always wild. But I agree this guy needs to do more research.

@@qwastnm7320 Episode 2 said that egg came from Dreamfyre.

I thought the egg for Baelon was Sunfyre.

@@Cboz1978 So???

@@qwastnm7320 True but if you want it to hatch wouldn’t you pick a fresh one?

grandmother, and what he's explaining here that Drogon comes from Dreamfyre is a theory, it has never been confirmed by GRRM.

Drogon is smaller in the books

Meraxes and vhagar were born on dragonstone, they didn’t ride over from Valyria like valerion did

As we see with Dany's dragons. Hatched at the same point, but Drogon is bigger. Wasn't there also a theory that Drogon might be bigger because he had the chance to roam free while the two others were kept in chains?

yess and she is mother to vermax, rhaegal, viserion, drogon and many others I believe

@@Glamode how is this possible ... 🤯

@@Glamode TF u talking about? Dreamfyre is mother to Caraxes and Meleys. Syrax is mother to Vermax, Arrax & Tyraxes and others. Drogon, Viserion and Rhaegal eggs source is uknown.

This is no fact, it's a legend. And it's treated as such in "Fire and Blood".

@@Inuwoodx I literally suggested that I wish this "research" in this video would have lead us to the fact that... I know none of these suggestions have been proven. This was literally a wishlist of a reply. Me expressing that all this talk of dragons, when I clicked would have included one more thing, dragon eggs beneath Winterfell. I asked why the snow is melting in the Godswood... Hopeful there be dragons but not claiming it outright. In my mind the signs and suggestions point to but I know in this world very little is as clear cut as it seems. Good chance these Easter eggs don't mean anything. Bran seeing fire and flames through the eyes of Summer, smelling and tasting ash when Theon sacked Winterfell could have been a dragon at some point... And it just as well could have just been soldiers burning it the ground. I'm here for the possibilities. Never said it was this or that... I was only hopefully it was one of the two and wished this research proved there was a dragon reason for the waters to run warm in Winterfell... That's all

There were no dragon names that corresponds to the eggs 🤷🏻‍♂️ as for sheepstealer hatched when Jaehaerys was still young, therefore he's vhagar's offspring

@@mindq4328 Jaehaerys was born in 34 AC and you wrote Sheepstealer to be born in 34 AC, that is not "still young" that is beiong newborn. If you would have wrote him being born in 50 AC like i said then it would still be when Jaehaerys was still young(14 yo).

@@qwastnm7320 I dont think that 14 can be considered "young" within the context of GoT

@@mathguy97 Lol it absolutely can wtf. You arent a man until you are 16 and even then you are considered young. I'm sorry but your comment is gigant reach and definitely does not make sense.

yes

Do dragons breed? I'm not sure if grrm has said how dragons are hatched, but if they do need to breed, it would explain the difference in species depending on who their father is.

I feel like Drogon is special and if he continues to live for a long time in the wild (which seems very likely, with few threats to his life being around), he will probably be the biggest/most powerful dragon to ever exist.

Drogon's growth is actually quite terrifying. Usually, a dragon needs to grow for ~10 years just to be able to support his rider (a bit less if the rider is a child). Drogon is able to do so only 1 or 2 years after his birth (in the books at least).

@@kakwa Viserion and Rhaegal weren't far behind him, guess they were all special.

I thought Seasmoke was her offspring, since Rhaenys and Meleys were living in Driftmark and Laenor was born there, and Rhaenys placed Seasmoke's egg on his crib. She was the only female on the island, the only dragon even, I believe, the others were either at Dragonstone or King's Landing.

Porque aquele ovo não é o de dreamfyre É o ovo que ela botou

No, Dreamfyre is older than them... In the show they were talking about Dreamfyre's eggs. She's the mother.