Excellent subject. Early on in my Special Forces career, I learned a really horrible accuracy standard on a really horrible target... 1 in the kill zone and 1 anywhere in the body using the old-style cartoon CQB targets. And I was more than fast enough and at least accurate enough to pass any qualification using that standard and that target. Not long after Mogadishu we changed our accuracy standard to all shots within a 3x5 card arbitrarily placed on the target where the instructor thought "center-mass" would be based on how the target was presented. What I learned was I was also fast enough and accurate enough to meet this standard. I would never have learned that if I hadn't been forced into doing so because reality intruded into our old standard. Thanks for this, I hope people are paying attention.

Lmao, that stands last attempt at getting revenge.... Aaron didn't even flinch.

You and Chris Baker from LuckyGunner are my two favorite gun KZfaqrs. No flashy intros, no shilling for sponsors, no fluff or BS. Just straight laced information presented in a calm, sensible, and reasoned manner.

Your one of the select few “gun guys” I watch on YT. Your analysis and reasoning are fantastic. Keep it up.

A-A-Ron always impresses with his logic, reasoning, explanations, and concise presentation. He was attacked at the 11:47 mark and he did not even flinch!

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Hunting is a good comparison to this style of target aquisition. You can shoot two dimensional targets all day long, but as soon as that deer shifts its' position to quartering to or quartering away, hunters know they aren't shooting right behind the shoulder for the heart anymore; depending on the degree of angle they've now changed the hold dramatically to the front legs, or chest, or back ribs.

I am one of those stack them in the same hole guys. I firmly believe that putting the bullet where it needs to go is far more important than the combat accuracy approach. I change targets up all the time to keep students from getting into the "it was close enough" mentality. I often use 3" stickers that have a bullseye and 2 scoring rings, I have students shoot them at 7 yards, 5 shot strings against the timer. Great info as always Aaron!!

The range is the biggest factor in my shooting practice. Anything near me is indoor or DNR regulated flat range where they may yell at you if you decide to go prone instead of using the nice benches they provide.

I genuinely do not understand how this man does not have more of a viewership.

Please do the Aimpoint Duty RDS and Eotech EFLX, it would be very much appreciated. I think there's a large part of the community that is dying to know if they hold up to Aimpoint/Eotech standards. Love the content man, the very best of review videos period.

Hell yea! I love the lesson videos most on this channel, thank you for the lessons Aaron!

Great insights as always, look forward to seeing more on this series

Best content on the interwebs…”choose your targets accordingly”

I honestly tend to click the videos that aren't about products more often. I'm not here to watch someone else shoot a gun I'll never own. I really love these conceptual videos because they help me think about how to improve using what I already have. Thanks for the perspective.

Very good information!! Looking forward to the series.

Really appreciate the information you put out!

Good info, Aaron, I noticed this on range in myself today shooting the b21e with a transition to a nra b8. I ran this with a student and the target comparison was drastically different. Difference in understanding of basic fundamentals obviously but...if you want to try it, Run whatever COF u want. First x amount of rounds into b21, transition to B8 for last round of the run. So if you do 5's it would be 4 b21, 1 nra b8. I noticed running my state qual with time, I got lazy on b21 but fast, transition to b8 and as moving back slowed things as fast as accuracy allowed. The b8 was a very tight group in comparison.

Another great video brother!

I have shot most of those targets and several others over the years. I do use photo targets with no scoring zones and showing different body positions to practice various points of impact and bullet trajectories. They are still two dimensional, so, they are of limited benefit. I am looking forward to the new series. As always, thanks for your great content

Great video, and informative as always.

Love the anatomy targets as well as silhouette targets!!!

Great stuff. Lots to ponder. Thanks, A!

Great stuff. Thanks for the content.

I’ll admit this video helped me open my thought process behind my target selection. I’ve Only had experience with the military and ispa targets. Great video

I use b8s for accuracy and fundamentals, than the VTAC or the USMC threat targets for speed and self defense training. If I start to notice a large shift in my acceptable accuracy I go back and shoot the b8s. I really enjoyed this video Aaron! Thank you for the info

Good video and points made. I'm sticking with the VTAC targets due to the array of aimint points for self defense pistol and or rifle on either side.

Great info 👍

I was always taught not to punch someone's nose, but to punch the back of their head, from the front of their face. Much like shooting, you should always aim for the center of the thorax or cerebral cavity, no matter the angle. Like you said, that changes depending on the profile presented.

Great info! I need to find a good Red Dot "Sight-In" target for rifle. Hope you touch on that next.

Comment to assist with algorithm. Thanks, Aaron!!!

Louie Awerbuck used to make 3D targets for us and one of the first to show us that a "square range" is not very realistic. He used to put T-shirts on these 3D targets and showed us how inefficient IDPA targets are.

I actually adjusted my targets awhile back after seeing yours and do a similar 5x7 with a 3 inch black circle ⚫ then a copy paper size 8.5x11.5 for a (B zone) and staple onto cardboard targets, and now if I'm not at least in or around the 3" circle out to 15 yards I get frustrated..... and do the B8 thing slow fire once a week maybe for accuracy checks.

Good watch thank you. I've only got steel set up at the ranch and I really want to try paper now. Never shot closer than 15y with any of my handguns.

If u pause at about 11:03 and squint your eyes it looks like aarons wearing a cowboy hat. pretty cool

For readily available, affordable 2d targets I often use the Birchwood Casey EZ-Scorer IPSC reduced scale silhouettes. I reckon that shooting a smaller zone is better than a larger one

Unfortunately targets just sit there and take it. Until they make targets that duck , jump , roll and run its gonna be your imagination that helps you the most with flat range targets......and SageDynamics of course

Can you please review the new, Primary Arms SLx RS-10 1x23mm Mini Reflex Sight - 3 MOA Dot? Thank you for the content.

B8 is really big here. I’ll have to measure it but the B8 bullseye is probably decent in terms of smaller points of aim, especially if you only consider an inner portion of it to be an acceptable hit. I haven’t really shot at any of these targets in a long time but I recognized most of them. Most of what I’ve done has been the photo targets without scoring so you have to consider bullet trajectory after looking at your target to evaluate good anatomical hits or not

I like the Birchwood Casey 3 D torso targets

why did you shoot the NLETC? check out our new target we ditched the perforated lines added a upper thorasic/neck/head instructor zone and it doesn't come anywhere near as low. You would have to call in and ask for the new one.

Thnx

Good words

Does anyone remember what that one show that was almost a reality show but it was self-defense focused and they put people through force on force situations with submunitions?

Good stuff. Corollary: Aim small, miss small.

I personally like using a uspsa target with a orange 2 inch circle in the center of the A zone

For me as a competitive shooter, shooting IPSC in my region and shooting the USPSA nationals a couple of times, is put the bullet where you want to, doesnt matter the target, you nput your shots where you want as fast and as accurate as you can, I really dont see the difference between targets, as long as you have the basics down, you put them where you want regardless of the target

Watch any of my vids last few years & you will see I use HARD Cardstock Targets of a wide variety including photo Realistic from Targets Online...use Code DanTheWolfman for discount if Aaron has never given one. ALSO, @Sage Dynamics people could use 4x6 for Upper thoracic and 3 by 5 cards for Tbox area correct (OG Seal Team 6)?

Me, trying to peel an orange into a 2 dimensional object to disprove Aaron but failing: 11:48

Drinking Dominican beer and watching sagedynamics, I like it I like it alot

7:43 checking the list?

This man is a scientist masquerading as a gun guy

What do you think is a decent draw to shot time for an intermediate shooter..2.0. 1.5? For an accurate shot at a distance of usually 10 yards?

IDPA is where I do my shooting. Official IDPA cardboard target stationery or moving. If there’s an open door range close by then you’re lucky.

Uspsa a zone is too big in my opinion. Lower a zone hits are below the diaphragm and ineffective fight stoppers

any chance theres a PA plx 1-8 compact review in the works?

Paper plates and index cards, that's all I shoot

"so much more room for activities!" LOL

Side not, I only shoot pennies out of the air. I haven't hit one yet, but I've scared a whole lot!

You failed to mention the Trex arms chameleon targets

V tac for the win

@11:50 he didn’t even flinch

11:50 stone cold killer didn’t even flinch or acknowledge what just happened

I use 8.5x14 and 11x17 self printed targets, many with the Sage Dynamics critical anatomy print-out merged or a version of the IPSC target with an anatomical overlay much like the vtac. Those small sizes keep me consistannt with aim small, miss small. Do I still suck? Yes. Do the smaller targets make me suck less than the majority of you? Also yes.

WHERE CAN WE ORDER THOSE PAPAER TARGETS

Accuracy through volume of fire mostly applies to just the fully automatic weapon systems. For the rest of us poor people, precision groups are what we are looking for.

Does this mean I really wasn't hitting those Crzy Ivan targets after all?

We called "COMBAT ACCURACY", "Spray and Pray" when I was in the military.

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Anyone else catch the StepBrothers reference?

I thought he had a cowboy hat on with that black 'tent' behind him

“I was lucky in the order, but I've always been lucky when it comes to killin' targets” - Will Munny.

My agency went away from humanoid targets last year because the new theory is that they would rather us to be accurate than to tell us where to aim on a target that doesn't represent reality. If you don't know where the heart and lungs should be on human, accuracy won't help you. This video is all about paper targets. What about steel? I always see people use full IPSC-size steel to justify speed at the cost of accuracy. PS: I can lay an orange peel flat. Goode homolosine projection method for Earth works well. I'm a nerd.

Aim small Miss small

Aim small, miss small

Lol is Arron a tiny guy that can carry full sized guns like a chad or something? “Approximate representation of a 140-150 lbs person” (holds target up, gets dwarfed by targets head alone let alone broad shoulders)

Save your money and buy colored index cards.

Thanks for Gas Lighting these people whom say & teach that COMBAT ACCURACY is acceptable..... you should be able to get ok groups whomever you are, at least 25 yards and in!( There are lots of other shooters/instructors who live in a camp "under a bridge" and they call the camp/dumpster fire 🔥 COMBAT ACCURACY ).... AND THAT'S NOT THE GREAT RED HOT CHILLI PEPPERS SONG 💯 it's actually under A bridge lol

Let’s go Brandon!

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