Tariq Nasheed Responds To Fat Joe & Crazy Legs Assertion Puerto Ricans Co-Created Hip Hop

Tariq Nasheed Responds To Fat Joe & Crazy Legs Assertion Puerto Ricans Co-Created Hip Hop | Clip

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This clip comes from a recent conversation with Tariq Nasheed on his documentary "Microphone Check: Hip Hop's Hidden History."
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@andrewyb830 Ай бұрын

i always thought the Puerto Rican 'co contributor' claim was mainly due to some break dancers and graffiti artists (maybe some aspects of fashion) but i never assumed music

@melanatedwarrior3530 Ай бұрын

Well, you thought wrong. Puerto Ricans didn't have anything to do with CREATION of Hip Hop. They observed, assimilated, participated, and then made a FEW contributions to the culture. No aspects of fashion come from Puerto Ricans. They have no swag, and prior to them emulating Black Americans, they were known for wearing mix match clothes, pointy shoes, and highwaters.

@litebeingimmortal7375 Ай бұрын

What elements of PR culture helped created hip hop?Its just that simple dam

@nothingbutfacts1676 Ай бұрын

Who owns hip hop is more important than who created it. Unfortunately, the billions that hip hop generates annually.90% of the revenue it’s not owned by FBA.

@chrisdacrisis4670 Ай бұрын

It might be considered anti Semitic to mention who largely OWNS hip hop. 😂😅

@hanifmartin7505 Ай бұрын

Whe already know that that's not what this conversation is about, you trying to deflect bouncing of the ropes with words like a wrestler 😂stop

@ynmonroe 21 күн бұрын

Terrible take. Even if people weren't making albums or signed to labels, do you think the beat makers, song writers, rappers, and dancers would disappear? People were doing this before it became "commercial". Also, might doesn't now, nor has it ever, made right.

@raceofbk Ай бұрын

I'm a Puerto Rican born and raised in NYC! I'm 43 and I know for a fact we are not Co-creators of Hip Hop. Stop trying to change history and help make history period. Joe should know better than that SMH...

@AlphonseWeebay Ай бұрын

You have chosen truth. Bless you

@bobbyblazini Ай бұрын

Clearly not Puerto Rican or from NYC. Just watch any classic hip hop documentary or movie and there's Puerto Ricans. The blocks are mixed and acting like friends didn't mix is ridiculous. Even Busta rhymes is considered Caribbean. Y'all just don't wanna claim or acknowledge our darker skinned people as still our people

@SoLowDolo Ай бұрын

@@bobbyblazini PRs called Hip Hop jungle bunny music and separated themselves from Black Americans. A lot of Hispanics did not allow Black people into their houses.

@tonyjones-clark4960 Ай бұрын

Just because Puerto Ricans or ANY other Caribbeans were at the party does NOT make YOU or THEM Co-Creators of Hip-hop - STOP IT!!! The only documentary that I'm interested in is the one were the Pioneers like are talking. Like the ones in Microphone Check@@bobbyblazini

@tonyjones-clark4960 Ай бұрын

@@bobbyblaziniJust because Puerto Ricans or ANY other Caribbeans were at the party does NOT make YOU or THEM Co-Creators of Hip-hop - STOP IT!!! The only documentary that I'm interested in is the one were the PIONEERS/CREATORS are talking. Like the ones in Microphone Check.

@nelsonomarvalencia-garcia3403 Ай бұрын

No problem with challenging people like joe or crazy legs for trying to claim Hip-Hop. If they're gonna make those claims, like Tariq said, give us names, and specific details. 100% true. To go so far as to make the colonizer comparison? That was too far. Challenge Tariq to provide more details and not "make a mess" like he said about Joe. Why is that his immediate comparison? He knows what kind of meaning it has to say "colonizer" over "stealing" or "appropriating." He's saying Latino's were only starting to appear in the late 70's - that's pretty early and pretty significant (the claim Latino's co created Hip-Hop is still false so I'm not denying that). But to just glide over the significance of that proximity in community is wild, especially in the context of calling us "colonizers" in the Hip-Hop space. Because then what are Black American's to Black immigrants, or Jamaicans more specifically, knowing Hip-Hop has roots in Jamaican sound system culture? But then Jamaican's or their culture don't get nearly the same attention as something like Disco? What if someone was to call that some good old fashioned American appropriation, or that Black American's can erase those roots because of American cultural hegemony? That would be an odd and interesting statement, but also misleading the same way Tariq's colonizer comparisons are. Also challenge him, why explicitly point out Chases' Puerto Rican friends not wanting him to be in Black spaces, while just gliding over the fact that Black spaces didn't want to know that Chase was Puerto Rican? There's so much more to race than just the Black and White races, so it's disappointing to always see when people try to fit other races into that instead of expanding the framework of race to go outside the Black/White binary.

@hagnuj1070 Ай бұрын

There was no Jamaican sound system starting hip hop. Hip hop was disco DJs. Kool Herc is a Godfather not father. You cannot dispute DJ Red Alert Melle Mel nor Busy Bee.😂

@melanatedwarrior3530 Ай бұрын

Your last name tells me everything I need to know about you 🤣

@nelsonomarvalencia-garcia3403 Ай бұрын

@@hagnuj1070 that wasn’t my point. I’m not even trying to dispute any of the established ideas about who started it.

@sirenloud Ай бұрын

Actually there's a lot of black Mariachi claim it😂

@GuyJustChillin Ай бұрын

lol that can't be true lol 🤣

@sirenloud Ай бұрын

@@GuyJustChillin it's actually not easy to be part of a mariachi chloric orchestra not everybody can be a part of a mariachi ensemble it takes years of practice and education and dedication to play the instruments at the mariach use plus they have to be in top shape have you seen the soaps that they wear Mariachis have been in all colors and all parts of the world there's a lot of mariachi bands in Jamaica Dominican Republic in Puerto Rico and Virgin Islands and Nigeria mariachi bands in Morocco and Cape Verde in Brazil all of Central America Columbia you know they have black people in all those countries I said was Mariachis very a predominantly skilled

@Zee-yh4ow Ай бұрын

@@sirenloudnot easy for MOST but Black Americans can do any form of music

@andrewyb830 Ай бұрын

Interesting

@GTACJGrove Ай бұрын

Is Stillmatic a perfect rap album to you Justin? If not what tracks do you skipped?

@powderedtoastfacekillah734 Ай бұрын

Damn…Justin out here pushing the divisiveness? Say it ain’t so

@benweinstein7140 Ай бұрын

This guy’s been pushing a narrative that many older, more in the culture, and more knowledgeable people take issue with and they have receipts. The idea that Latinos weren’t key players in the growth of hip hop culture at it’s birth is ludicrous and Rob Swift is one voice that feels legit to me that offers a counter to this former wanna-be pimp’s argument. While I may not be a fan of every way Fat Joe’s moves over the years he’s made an undeniably net positive contribution to hip hop with his successes as an artist and that’s more than I could say for this dude that’s trying to racialize what is often considered a generally post-racial culture by pretending like only one race of people pushed it forward in its infancy. Watch Style Wars or read Can’t Stop Won’t Stop and a host of other resources which have been around before this dude started chirping are the accepted history that he is trying to obscure and deface. It’s actually a disservice to black people and hip hop in general.

@SoLowDolo Ай бұрын

I had to stop reading at growth at its birth. 😂 Hip Hop is FBA culture. You're just a fan.

@melanatedwarrior3530 Ай бұрын

You claim latinos were key players at it's birth, but then turn around and mentioned Rob Swift and style wars, SERIOUSLY😂😂😂😂. Also, Caan you please elaborate on those imaginary receipts because whenever we ask for Puerto Rican Hip Hop cultural elements, influences and pioneers, it's always MUM'S THE WORD 🤭

@jasondonahue2813 Ай бұрын

Meskins ain’t did shit but copy the Brothers and when they came home with it their parents said stop acting like a you know what 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

@SoLowDolo Ай бұрын

@@jasondonahue2813 they acting like we haven't seen the obvious hatred they have for us.

@jasondonahue2813 Ай бұрын

@@SoLowDolo I live in Houston erryday a white, meskin or Asian is trying to out black me. 😂

@DrumEmaHer0 Ай бұрын

DJ Disco Wiz was a Puerto Rican rapper born in 1961 and a member of Mighty Force crew...one of the first hip hop crews. This can be found on a two second google search.

@melanatedwarrior3530 Ай бұрын

Wiz was never a rapper and he came into our culture during the late 70s 🤭

@DrumEmaHer0 Ай бұрын

⁠@@melanatedwarrior3530 You're right...he was a DJ and an MC...so definitely not part of hip hop. He also was the first person to create a mixed plate which...you know didn't contribute shit to early hip hop. 🙄

@melanatedwarrior3530 Ай бұрын

@@DrumEmaHer0 I never said wiz wasn't part of Hip Hop, I'm just saying that he like his ppl had absolutely nothing to do with the CREATION of Hip Hop and look at you making up nonsense. Facts over feelings🤣

@SelectiveSocial401 Ай бұрын

Didn't Caz teach him how to DJ?

@GawdlyChannel Ай бұрын

We know ....But the sound and style came from poets and Black music. Black and Latino ppl have been in the same neighborhoods ...so we understand PR s have been in groups with Black folk. We look out for folk...that never look out for us.

@CrowdPleeza 27 күн бұрын

From an interview with JOJO an early member of the Rock Steady Crew. This deals with Breaking. SIR NORIN RAD:"That's very interesting! You were featured in that documentary "The Freshest Kids" and you stated there something to the effect that you were actually already B-Boying when there were hardly any Puerto Ricans around doing that dance...." JOJO:"That's exactly what I'm meaning. What I'm telling you now that's what I meant when I said that. We were the only Puerto Ricans that got busy. Now DJ Kool Tee and DJ Mr. Lee (early DJs from the West Bronx) used to give us our respect and say, "Check out the Puerto Rican B-Boys in the house! B-Boy Spiderman and B-Boy Spiderweb!" And we got busy and that was way back. Back then there were a lot of Zulu B-Boys around. They sorta ran it back then. As for the Puerto Rican B-Boys we were just up and coming. You know, we were people who wanted to learn it and got good at it 'cause, you know, they say Puerto Ricans actually put B-Boys on their back. We're the ones that started the backspinning and all these kind of moves. As far as the footwork and the flip turns that they did....that came from the Black B-Boys." Interview with B-Boy Jojo (The Rock Steady Crew)

@CrowdPleeza 26 күн бұрын

I'd also add that dance styles like Locking, Popping and Strutting were also started by Black-Americans in California. These styles were adopted by NYC Hip Hop people.

@CrowdPleeza 21 күн бұрын

Just to add. Puerto Ricans and other Latinos played a big role with developing and popularizing the elements of Hip Hop. When Breaking died out with Black-Americans around 1977 it would have stayed that way had Puerto Ricans not picked it up. Most people got exposed to Breaking through Puerto Ricans in the early 80s.

@Welsed Ай бұрын

Isnt some top down shit. 😂🤣😂

@tdubasdfg Ай бұрын

🎯

@DrDerrickColon Ай бұрын

Just begun

@melanatedwarrior3530 Ай бұрын

Relevance🤔

@DrDerrickColon Ай бұрын

@@melanatedwarrior3530 he asked where the Latin breaks were. It’s that song among 90percent of the breaks.

@melanatedwarrior3530 Ай бұрын

@@DrDerrickColonNo such thing as latin breaks, we've already dismissed that nonsense. I hope not you're not falsely reporting this brothas channel for hate speech like you did red supreme🤔

@DrDerrickColon Ай бұрын

@@melanatedwarrior3530 just begun. You dismissed nothing. Stay out my space. Do you.

@melanatedwarrior3530 Ай бұрын

@DrDerrickColon This is not your space. You're in an FBA space, and we've dismissed all of the lies and false narratives you're pushing simply just by using your own people's words against them. IT'S A WRAP ✌🏾

@GuyJustChillin Ай бұрын

As a Born on the island BORICUA, @3:09 dude is on some other OTHER ish. "Colonizing"!? My dude, the Taino people are almost EXTINCT! Don't be going on the KZfaq and just making up iish for you own narrative! FULL STOP. F Hip Hop and all that, the very millisecond you disregard a people, any point you make about ANYTHING is discredited.

@eddied80 Ай бұрын

Yeah he lost me with the colonizing comments

@thusano2 Ай бұрын

Tariq is insane bro, his words carry no weight he is not valid. All of this is in bad faith, he's intellectually dishonest.

@born_supreme Ай бұрын

Y'all some Johnny-Come-Latelys. Y'all try to lay claim to a genre yall had ZERO efforts in creating. Sounds like colonizing

@Regalman Ай бұрын

but Tariq is right though

@melanatedwarrior3530 Ай бұрын

Tariq is on point, these non creative ricans are acting just like their european ancestors by trying to rewrite history and claim our sh!t as their own🤷🏾‍♂️

@defrocker0569 Ай бұрын

Grandmixer DST is Puerto Rican and black.

@melanatedwarrior3530 Ай бұрын

His father has SOME Puerto rican ancestry, but he only found out about it a few years ago😂😂😂😂😂😂

@defrocker0569 Ай бұрын

@@melanatedwarrior3530 His father IS Puerto Rican, not "some". I heard him myself, he didn't say, a little bit. What difference does it make though. Tariq's wife is half white, so he needs to chill out with the immigrant crap.

@melanatedwarrior3530 Ай бұрын

@@defrocker0569I was actually quoting DXT himself😂😂😂. What's up with the weird thing you have for Tariq?? I've never in my life seen a so-called man hace such a strange obsession with another man the way you do with Mr. Nasheed🤔

@defrocker0569 Ай бұрын

@@melanatedwarrior3530 What's up Tariq's weird thing about being divisive about black immigrants and Caribbean people. There's no need for it. His says the same talking points all the time about them and it's getting corny. I used to be heavy following him years ago, but I caught on to the goofy shit. As I said before, he's a hypocrite. He's one thing one day and on some other shit the next day.

@melanatedwarrior3530 Ай бұрын

@defrocker6792 Don't deflect and project at the same time. Just answer the question, smh. How is saying that afro-caribbean ppl not Black ppl didn't have anything to do with the CREATION of Hip Hop divisive 🤔. Clearly, you have an immigrant background because I never see you hold Africans, and Afro-caribbean ppl accountable for their disrespect towards my ppl.

@AntajuanGrady Ай бұрын

hip hop is Black culture! There was Latinos in it by the late 70s but they were never the center of it nor created it. If it was 50/50 like that why wasn't any of the early rap classics from the 70s by them?

@booneboone9705 28 күн бұрын

*hip hop is Black American culture

@atarahsvoice5268 Күн бұрын

@@AntajuanGrady exactly! None of them was on the mics during the creation of hip hop, but we can name a lot of Black Americans that were literally on the mic before it became a popular thing for everyone else

@grinchoi1 Ай бұрын

The only 50/50 element of hip-hop is definitely breaking. The original black version of breaking looks completely different than modern day bboying. PR dudes were inspired by the black version of the dance and completely flipped it upside down. Majority of foundational bboy moves come from the PR era of breaking. That’s just a fact if you remove yourself of bias and do the actual research. They have a claim to bboying because they created majority of the moves you see being done today within the context of the dance.

@melanatedwarrior3530 Ай бұрын

How is breaking 50/50 when puerto ricans didn't have anything to do with the CREATION of B-Boying 🤔. Pr's would have to be foundational to Hip Hop to have foundational B-Boy moves, which they're not🤣

@grinchoi1 Ай бұрын

⁠@@melanatedwarrior3530⁠ bboying started on top and gradually went to the floor as the years went on and the dance evolved. PR cats like bboy Spy and the Crazy Commanders Crew brought the 6-step, CC footwork, swipes, tracks, and the windmill among other things. This is 90% of what is considered bboy foundation and I’m being generous. Get a clue and back it up with facts before you step to me.

@melanatedwarrior3530 Ай бұрын

@grinchoi1 The nerve of an outsider trying to tell a Black man about his own culture. HILARIOUS🤣. Puerto Ricans had absolutely nothing to do with the CREATION of Hip Hop. Y'all came along later on and got into B-Boying after it was played out. The end😂😂😂😂

@melanatedwarrior3530 Ай бұрын

@grinchoi1 Again, Puerto Ricans aren't foundational to Hip Hop, so I suggest that you stop using that word. I'm tired of hearing about the few moves that y'all added to B-Boying, especially since B-Boying, like Puerto Ricans, hasn't been relevant in Hip Hop in over 40 years now, LAWD😂😂😂😂😂

@chrisdacrisis4670 Ай бұрын

@@melanatedwarrior3530Not even Puerto Rican here but how about you just come out & admit that you dislike or hate Puerto Ricans. 😂😅

@Flyhigh19xx Ай бұрын

My grandparents are central americans. They look nothing like colonizers or conquistadors. They actually darker or as dark as tariq and we dont consider ourselves black. My mom meztizo my dad side are natives . He can keep hip hop but dont still our mayan and lenca roots. He studied it I live it also where im from fat joe white

@TheRedeye21 27 күн бұрын

So much hate and anti puerto rican talk in here, FBA's really loosing there shit and sounding just like the master with a colonizer mind set. Divide and Conquer. Lets rather ask who owns hip hop and keep that same energy 😂

@BladimirButin 23 күн бұрын

As if Puerto Rico isn’t full of anti blackness shut up even a Puerto Rican girl exposed it the video had close to a million views 😂 just search Puerto Rican racism

@CrowdPleeza 21 күн бұрын

Puerto Ricans did make Breaking popular after 1977 when it died out with Black-Americans. They picked it up around 78 and further developed and exposed it.

@thetruedoctrineofchristnet7473 7 күн бұрын

Nice try! Please go take reverse psychology 101.

@melanatedwarrior3530 Күн бұрын

How could we be divided when we were never united 🤔

@Brickbrickbrickinthewall Ай бұрын

Sorry Justin, yall on some bullshit

@MikeyMath 11 күн бұрын

On average, people who identify as Black have 18% white ancestry, which is equivalent to having 22 white ancestors among their 128 5×great-grandparents. Additionally, about 10% of Black people have more than 50% white ancestry.

@christopherlaws3077 6 күн бұрын

@MikeyMath_What does that have to do with blks creating Hip Hop?

@MikeyMath 6 күн бұрын

@@christopherlaws3077 i was responding to some people who were attacking fat joe by calling him a white latino, using that line of reasoning you can call some light skinned black people white african americans

@melanatedwarrior3530 Күн бұрын

You can't be that damn desperate. The BS you're spewing doesn't even make any sense. Comparing our DNA to ppl who have over 70 European DNA is pure comedy. HILARIOUSNESS🤣

@ldrainey551 Ай бұрын

The tethers are trying to get out front so they can get in on the money grab at the Olympics

@kevintaylor9590 Ай бұрын

One of your best episodes ever

@naheemquattlebaum2267 Ай бұрын

If a call was made from someone higher up, then this is a money issue. As in money being left on the table, for years if you think about it.

@davidguzman8249 Ай бұрын

Next, you're going to say black people invented reggaeton too, and I'm sure someone will send Kanye to snatch Taylor Swift's Grammy out of her hand again.

@melanatedwarrior3530 Ай бұрын

I'm still waiting for those creations and accomplishments. I would also like to know what mark has your ppl set on the world🤭

@StevenBiko1 Ай бұрын

Reggaeton derives from Reggae music 🎼 that started in the island of Jamaica 🇯🇲. Yes Black people’s invented Reggae music , you lietinos copied the art form naming it Reggae tone.

@lanceflx63 Ай бұрын

Reggaeton is a cheesy cheap play on House Music which comes from Blacks in Chicago

@lanceflx63 Ай бұрын

ALL Latin music, dance, and foods are heavily influenced by Africa and not Euro Spain. Hell, Spain was civilized, cultivated, and occupied by the Moors out of Africa for over 800 years. So umm you better recognize.

@Sol-ev6dv Ай бұрын

@@davidguzman8249yea cause tethers like you came in and messed everything up like always.

@b.o.1951 Ай бұрын

This is so fire. 🙏🏾🙏🏾

@ksager123 Ай бұрын

Astronomical 🧢

@AlphonseWeebay Ай бұрын

Cap. Yet another example of fba slang being appropriated. Speak in your home tongue tether

@bobbyblazini Ай бұрын

@@AlphonseWeebaythen Why did you speak English at all? Stop the 🧢

@ksager123 Ай бұрын

@@AlphonseWeebay slowpoke I was agreeing with Tariq

@rdotpiff4762 Ай бұрын

It was only 3 Puerto Ricans in the movie Beat Street in 83 they had no influence

@12w0 Ай бұрын

i dont agree with fat joe. havent really liked his raps since DITC. all in all my concern is that this divisiveness will only revert us back to segregation era. edit: Justin, listen to Mista Skrilla - Mis Camaradas

@opalivy739 Ай бұрын

The Diaspora were segregated from FBA people for decades before our FBA people started to delineate from African and other Caribbean immigrants. They don't have no affinity or unity to Foundational Black American People. It is necessary for FBA people to separate ourselves from these other Black Diaspora people

@12w0 Ай бұрын

@@opalivy739 where do you consider your Motherland to be?

@opalivy739 Ай бұрын

@@12w0 right here in America not Africa. I'm African descent, but not African culturally. My ancestors are from American soil not Africa. No one in my family is from Africa.

@Timewarp3000bc Ай бұрын

@@12w0the united states

@Timewarp3000bc Ай бұрын

@@opalivy739facts

@joshuacolon3893 18 күн бұрын

Tariq stole from Chinese culture because of that yin yang tattoo on his arm.

@derekhakeem8 Ай бұрын

Always tryna steal from the culture

@bobbyblazini Ай бұрын

Hebrew Israelites are black and latins. We share the same culture. The culture Stealers are the ones who want a divide

@melanatedwarrior3530 Ай бұрын

@@bobbyblazini🧢😂😂😂😂

@atarahsvoice5268 Күн бұрын

@@derekhakeem8 always

@griddilla2374 Ай бұрын

tariq always lies. im 32 years old and when i was 12 i saw blacks and latinos in nyc started hip hop. it wasnt recently like he claimed. this was over 20 years ago.

@GuyJustChillin Ай бұрын

@TheCompanyMan I am really ashamed that you had this dude talking reckless. I'm going to keep it a BUCK, I want to hear this dudes thoughts about the Italian Mafia influence on hip hop in the mid to late 90's. All of a sudden African American rappers wanted to "Dons" and "Consiglieres". Cappo's and Junior Mafias and l that!? FOH with all that.

@ksager123 Ай бұрын

Huh?

@GuyJustChillin Ай бұрын

@@ksager123 if you remember east coast rap of the mid to late 90's you'll understand.

@KillmongerX321 Ай бұрын

You are still a guest in ours lol we are the most imitated culture on the planet and the mob are over weight criminals. We never claimed to have created the mob image lol you are too slow to even understand the difference between imitation and inspiration Next time you talk down on black culture remember to grab the gun and leave the cannoli

@KillmongerX321 Ай бұрын

@opalivy739 Ай бұрын

The truth hurts 🤕

@InfiniteUmbra Ай бұрын

I love that Tariq keeps it 100 when it comes to the facts of our culture. Great to see you doing more content again, Justin brother. 💪🏿

@GuyJustChillin Ай бұрын

Tariq sounds bitter Af tho 🤣

@Timewarp3000bc Ай бұрын

@@GuyJustChillinbs

@bobbyblazini Ай бұрын

He called a colonized and inslaved people...colonizers. he is clearly slow

@mannystylz Ай бұрын

These are just hot takes. Fat Joe (liar), Crazy Legs (liar), Tariq (liar), etc are just saying wild things because someone is putting a mic in their face. I believe the first 2 were just spewing some misguided Latino pride in hopes nobody would call them out on their BS. Just like when Katt Williams (liar) said something like he can run a sub 4.3 forty. I was disappointed that Shannon didn't push back. Similarly I'm a little disappointed Justin didn't push back on the "colonizer" label or the "stole it first" quote. Respectfully, Mr Nasheed sounds a bit like those who said black Americans "stole" from Jamaicans, "stole" from Incredible Bongo Band, "stole" from other artists they sampled. "Daddy don't you know that things go in cycles" -Q-Tip But I guess hot takes are not limited to Skip Bayless, Katt Williams, Steven A Smith, news pundits, and politicians. It's spilled over into everything, unfortunately.

@melanatedwarrior3530 Ай бұрын

How could we steal from Jamaicans, the incredible bongo band, and any other artists that we're sampled when we're the inspiration behind their own music?? Make it make sense 🤭. Labeling lie-tinos as colonizers is pretty accurate, so what exactly is there to push back against 🤔

@mannystylz Ай бұрын

I like this comment. ❤️❤️❤️ Also "Lie-tinos" is hilarious 😂 Sir, I can, of course address you and any concerns directly and without vitriol; however, I will instead pray you are in good health 🙏 take care

@jasondonahue2813 Ай бұрын

It’s on film Katt running the 40 that makes you a liar 😢😭😭😭😭🗑️😭

@mannystylz Ай бұрын

@@jasondonahue2813 Unbelievable! That's great. Share the link. ❤

@Sol-ev6dv Ай бұрын

@@mannystylzwhere did tariq lie? I already know your going to give a bad faith answer so lets hear it?

@Doriiaan Ай бұрын

Honestly I’m a bit disappointed. I hold you in high regard as a journalist Justin. But this man barely gave you a single straight answer on critical questions like the one about it being “deliberate”, he cherry picked anecdotes about caribbeans, gave you several half truths and lies by omission. Yet you’re posting these clips like it’s the gospel…

@born_supreme Ай бұрын

Do us a favor and debunk the points that brought you disappointment.

@melanatedwarrior3530 Ай бұрын

You're giving me oxtail vibes. What's your background 🤔

@AlphonseWeebay Ай бұрын

Silence tether. Go fix your homeland. We don’t need your support or opinion

@defrocker0569 Ай бұрын

That's how Tariq roles. He's manipulative.

@brucearmstead364 Ай бұрын

Debunk his talking points, if not kick rocks!!

@defrocker0569 Ай бұрын

Disco King Mario was not in hip-hop, he played disco or club music.

@melanatedwarrior3530 Ай бұрын

Says who🤔

@opalivy739 Ай бұрын

That's a lie

@defrocker0569 Ай бұрын

@@opalivy739 He primarily was a disco Dj, then he got into hip-hop later, according to the pioneer B-boy, Cholly Rock.

@opalivy739 Ай бұрын

@@defrocker0569 I agree that he wasn't a hip hop DJ at first, but to dismiss King Mario as never being a a hip hop DJ or associated with hip hop music is a lie

@defrocker0569 Ай бұрын

@@opalivy739 He got into hip-hop because he saw that it could be profitable, according to what I was told.