I've heard this one speeds up. I still need to try this one at night. The closest I got was a dusk ride.

@@CanobieCoaster I don't know if it's a regular thing or just the ride ops doing it by themselves but when I went to Wintertraum in 2019, the trims before the final turn were turned off after dark. It gave some decently strong floater but I can see why they're there now, I got bonked pretty fierce by the side of the seat when unbanking from that final turn into the brakes.

​@@asehujiko8500 I can guarantee you that, the forces become are much stronger in the later hours, it's literally like day and night.

I recommend going to Phantasialand in winter, preferably on a weekday! Got the chance to keep my seat a few times, a real walk-on for most of the day. Sadly the launches don't feel as strong when you go for 3rd round while keeping you seat :D Only waiting time for front seats (like 2-4 persons waitng). In winter the park opens and closes later in the day, so you're guaranteed to experience a night ride. The ice cold wind in the face just adds it and also the whole place is just brilliant in the dark, pretty magical

Taron at night at Wintertraum is a whole different thing. Every Winter it rises up in my top 3 again for this reason xD When it warms up all day + the heated rails it goes fast af. Combined with the All the fog and the very dark lighting EXCEPT for a menacing red glow in the trench where the 2nd launch speeds through it is just amazing. Its a whole different vibe Rolling out of that Station, seeing nothing but fog, stones and darkness while you cross what feels like a glowing pit of lava or something.

I've seen several people put this as a top 10 coaster overall. I can see how it is that for some, but the ride isn't quite in that perfect tier for me. It's still a very good ride though.

The latest ride I got in my most recent trip occurred around 4 pm (6 pm close). I didn't find it much different than my early rides.

but never start with Taron and then go to F.L.Y. It will appear very slow:)

Glad you loved it!

Lucky! I wish it ran like that for me.

@@CanobieCoasterIt was a pretty hot day with 30C when the ride opened so it was flying but the trims on the bunny hops hit so hard that I didn't notice any airtime on the second hill, yet the force from the turn into the breakrun still felt exhausting

I rode it just a few weeks ago and while i was a bit sick and had stuffed sinuses i did also get a light headache after riding it

I plan to do a top 50 for steel and wood coasters.

@@CanobieCoaster That's great to hear🤩

@@CanobieCoaster woof

I wish the trim was on the other side of the hill like you said.

I got my best rides on Taron this year. There were a few extra turns with airtime. But that final hill was only a bit better for me due to the trim.

It feels faster than it looks in the POV for the start of the first and second halves.

@@CanobieCoaster yes Taron looks quite slow, but it actually feels quite a lot more intense^^

I agree this ride is very good. I just don't think it can compete with the world's best coasters. I think FLY is a better execution of the high thrill and theming concept.

I've been saying that thing about black mamba for ages, but it is subjective anyway. Besides, we have to thank Taron for a ride like velocicoaster. + here me out please, pin my comment Wathever, but ERIC DAMAN is the genius theming designer for almost everything in Phantasialand.

That's awesome! I visited on a weekday, but it still had a long line.

@@CanobieCoaster maybe there was a holiday in Germany. I made sure there wasn't any holiday or school vacation in Germany on the days i was there so that's why there might not have been any long lines.

Fair!

I prefer FLY in the same park.

Taron is a very good ride, but I don't think it's a top tier coaster. I much prefer F.L.Y.

Tbh. bc they put so much effort in their coasters I don't think u can ever call it overrated.

​@@CanobieCoaster Yeah, but it was designed to be kinda family friendly (no inversions, not too much airtime and high positive G's etc.). Theme Parks in Germany tend to attract much more customers with (decent themed) family rides instead of high top thrill attractions. Thats also the reason why Warner Bros/Six Flags sold their Theme Park in Bottrop (today Movie Park) after trying to become another generic Six Flags Park with mostly unthemed thrill rides, most people won't revisit those parks here. The founders of Phantasialand were also known for their opinion of not wanting any 'looping coasters' and stuff, it was a HUGE sensation when they announced Black Mamba and Talocan back then. And I know some people who don't like Phantasialand anymore, because they removed a lot of their (classic famous) dark rides and replaced them with (for some people too intense and scary) roller coasters. In Germany we have a saying that it's like a walk on a tightrope, but I think they did really well, most people aren't too afraid of Taron and it's intense and spectacular enough to please thrill seekers and coaster fans. And you defiantly want to revisit and ride it agains, cause it's just a cool experience. Cool video btw, keep up the good work mate!

Nice!

Nice!

I had the hotel ERT in 2017, but it still wasn't completely dark by the end of it. In 2021, the hotel ERT was only to walkaround Rookburgh at night.

That's good to know about double rides.

Thanks!

It's an above average coaster for sure, but it's not on the elite level like I've heard others say.

@@CanobieCoaster Depends on who you ask. For me personally this is the best coaster in europe, only rivaled by Zadra. Have not been on Ride to Happyness which also has a great reputation tho.

It definitely looks amazing in person.

They stand out compared to the breakneck first part of each half to me, but they're still decently fun.

@@CanobieCoaster I honestly believe that Velocicoaster will rank higher for me. We'll see.

The slowdown before the 2nd launch with that S-curves builds up anticipation in my opinion... the ride fakes to sneak Back to the Station entree but instead it goes "sike" and blasts you straight back on track

I want to try this one at night someday. The closest I got was a dusk ride in 2017.

FLY in the back row was super forceful and where that ride shined. Taron is a great compliment too though.

I much prefer Velocicoaster myself.

Phantasialand really is a cool park. It's amazing what they have done despite their height restrictions.

I felt similarly about Taron in 2021 as I did in 2017. Very good ride still.

Ride to Happiness is better than both Phantasialand coasters.

@@CanobieCoaster well yeah that’s what she said

I had short waits for Taron this year too. I heard it may have been due to the Rhinekirmes.

The theming is top notch.

@@CanobieCoaster especially for a non Disney park 😂

They are.

Love them.

Thanks!

The back section by the lake was closed in 2021, but I went back there in my 2017 visit.

I wish Taron had a little more airtime and an inversion.

FLY is easily the better ride for me.

I wish I could lap it that many times.

Very cool! I never realized that.

I agree it's super comfortable.

Lucked out about the waits!

I still need to get a true night ride on this coaster. I wish Phantasialand stayed open later.

I'm glad you love it!

I completely agree. It was absolutely breathtaking. Taron is a masterpiece

I realized that's what Phantasialand tries to do.

I like FLY regardless.

I got my best rides on it this summer in 100 degree heat.

I didn't realize this one had a single rider line. It was understandably closed in 2021 and it wasn't available in 2017 either.

@@CanobieCoaster I visited in July of 2018.

Glad you love it!

I recommend the last rows at night! It‘s sooo sick! Especially if you don't yet know the layout of Taron 100%.

Enjoy! The closest I've gotten is a dusk ride and it was cool with the lights.

@@DustyEyeballs thanks

You will probably also get to ride F.L.Y at night which is pretty cool

@@clubstep8244 defo and black Mamba, it will be dark at like 5. That’s 3 HOURS

I had hour waits in October in 2017 on a rainy day, but that's good to know for the future.

@@CanobieCoaster normally this is the case to bad to hear that you had that experience in oct 17😐 I go all months of the year (inc weekends in Summer🙃) so have a good comparison. And I always see after sept it slows done quite a bit until their wonderful winter period! Wintertraum, have you been? Btw I live 2,5 hours away from this park and still venture out 7-8 times per year😁 that’s my love is for Taron and now FLY as wel🤭

I like the whip.

Glad you love it!

That's a fun drop tower.

I wish the brake was on the other side of the airtime hill.

@@CanobieCoaster that wouldn't work because it needs the 3 extra trim brakes and the first ones are always one and can't be turned off if they for some reason don't work you have the other ones it isn't allowed to operate without them

Several will make an appearance in my annual top 50.

This one is one that seems like it needs to warm up.

@@CanobieCoaster yes and it does so very well because of the dark track!

It's worth the wait!

I prefer Hagrid's, but this ride is more intense.

I have heard it runs the best in winter, but I've only been on it in summer.

I don't think that's possible. Intamin has restricted the LSM launch parameters due to safety reasons. Only themselves can do changes to it. There is a boost-mode included when heating up the coaster in test-section - which is not allowed to have riders in it though.

See my review.

The ride as a package is very good and still a ton of fun. I just can't put it with the most elite coasters.

More. It's on par with Velocicoaster's first half.

Nice!

I prefer Helix. Better elements.

I agree the theming elevates the ride big time.

Lucky!

There are some strong elements in each half, but both fizzle out.

I already made a F.L.Y. review. F.L.Y. was more forceful start to finish.

@@CanobieCoaster Oh yeah I think I barely remember that.

After the final S-hill, I found the finale just ok. The final turns didn't have much kick to them. I agree Taron is very good and has plenty of great elements. I just don't think it's in the elite tier.

@@CanobieCoaster yes taron isn’t the most intense coaster but it’s so much fun and it’s such a long ride, because of that o slightly prefer taron over ride to happiness

I wish they had more land, but it does lead to them doing insane quality in what they have.

It's still very good. It just doesn't have a perfect layout.

@@CanobieCoaster yes, I totally agree on this one

I'd compare this to Velocicoaster's 1st half for the entire ride for intensity.

I have not ridden Taron, but I've ridden ISpeed and Taron looks already better. Sure, ISpeed has an incredible and forceful first half, but it doesn't have those comfy lapbars, it's not that smooth, and it has no theming. Moreover, after the mid-course, ISpeed is basically over, it doesn't do anything worth noting after the brakes. So, considering the whole experience, I'd say Taron is better.

@@Mattia_Genuardi To me the ride out layout and thrill experience is far more import than theming. The setting can give it a few bumps up, but not enough to overcome those 2 other categories.

Maybe I'll make that list.

It's still fun though.

@@CanobieCoaster Very fun, would be more fun if they remove the handles

I made a video on that topic.

Thanks

Those low mounted POVs always look fast.

My rides in 2017 (rain, 60 degrees, start and end of day) were identical to my summer rides in 2021 (80-85 degrees, start and end of day). Does it look slow in my footage?

@@CanobieCoaster it kinda does. I rode it in july 2019 it was really hot that day. Ill look at my footage i have and compare later and let you know

I still really like the ride. I don't think it's a top 5-10 coaster in the world from how I've seen some rank it.

@@CanobieCoaster I wonder how many people have ridden enough coasters around the world to make an informed judgement on that either way. You have, of course, but I suspect most people have a much more limited experience. I'd certainly put Taron in the top 5 in the "rides I've ridden" category (along with Nemesis, Stealth, X2 and Montu, in no particular order) but I wouldn't try to extrapolate beyond that.

FLY easily.

FLY in the back row is the most intense in my opinion.

@@CanobieCoaster I have to find a POV a fly I haven’t seen one yet

@@jrax1713 They are removed from YT and other Platforms by the Park And POVs also dont do justice to fly, you really have to feel it + Front and back row is a huuuge difference since the train is roughly 25-30m long (10 cars)

That's lucky on the crowds.

Lucky! It wasn't available in 2021 and it was backed up for my 2017 visit.

@@CanobieCoaster That time was 2018

Their layouts are usually great.

It's a very good ride for sure. I prefer FLY though.

Is that new? It wasn't in my original visit to the park in 2017 and then in 2021 Quick Pass was suspended due to covid.

@@CanobieCoaster it is there for maybe 2 weeks now

That's fair.

It's worth the wait, but I preferred to wait for FLY.

I much prefer FLY, but I find that ride super comfortable.

I love those airtime hills on this ride.

Hello

@@CanobieCoaster hi

I agree the theming makes this ride.

Both are very good, just not elite.

I agree Germany is Europe's best country for parks.

I prefer Taiga.

It is in my eyes. Lol.

glad to see someone already commented it

I love Steel Vengeance. I don't think it's overrated one bit. I can see it being disliked if you're taller though due to the restraints.

It is.

It's pure fun.

I agree it's still a fun ride.

I don't mind since it makes the ride feel faster.

Good to know!