For the outside of Frightful Presence, you could have your players take a Heroes Feast, which makes them immune to fear. It only takes a cleric or druid of 11th level. And that Druid can also be a Moon druid and have Shapechange. A good tank if they go earth elemental.

i really like the idea of grappling ... but not a polymorphed tarrasque .... a goliath totem-barbarian with the enlarge spell on him has the same size (in carry capacity, so in my mind in strength) as a tarrasque and could arguably grapple it at full size without disadvantage

Can't a mystic order of the immortal grow that big with a lot of strength grapple a terrasque

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Freedom Fighter max ,,,,.,,,,,

Pacific Rim much?

I actually have something like that in my campaign. I have a mecha terrasque with an impenetrable shield around it. To destroy the barrier they must find its opening and enter its insides, which is actually a 100 floor randomly generated mega dungeon with the barrier to drop it on the final floor.

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Tjitze de Boer 5 artificers with constructs that join together to make a bigger construct.

FORM TARRASTRON!!!!

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I had an idea that I would just have multiple mages cast enlarge on me until I'm considered gargantuan and then grapple the tarrasque

the normal enlarge spell can not stack. there are methods by which a creature can grow multiple times but that's not one.

awh that's disappointing, as a dm I'd definitely let my players do that because its creative as hell

Mac Donald's whaaaaat

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarasque

The more you know.

Awesome

Huh, I known the legend but I didn't know that it was Spanish. Also, there's a feast for the tarrasque! I did not know that

Well the man did say, don't group up. Spread that shit out son.

Well, big animal gets hurt, sees enemy far away. Sees big rock, throws rock.

Hulk Smash.

@@bishop31656 *TARRASQUE IS STRONGEST ONE THERE IS!*

No doubt. Now there's a monster to strike terror in the hearts of a high level party!

Actually it isn't that difficult. The reason DMs don't use it is because of its CR which is logical but go check out Nerdachy and see how fairly easily a level 20 group takes out a Tarrasque.

+Chad-Solomon Dixon my suspicion is that a well-balanced, well-played party of 20th PCs can take almost any single monster. That was my first thought when I looked at the demon lords in OotA (a party of 15th level PCs will curb-stomp them!), and was my conclusion after running multiple Adult/Ancient dragons against the party in RoT. If I really wanted to make the Tarrasque a challenge I'd increase the AC to 28-30, give resistance to all damage, and immunity to 5th level and lower spells, for a start. Bring back it's regen and need for a Wish to really put it down.

Almost any monster save Tiamat. There is no party comp save a specific Anti-Tiamat force that is going to survive a minimum of 100 points, per round, of AoE elemental damage. I wouldn't touch it's AC or give it the "wish thing" because neither of those are interactive they're just blockades. I would just follow the Tiamat mold and have it's roar do massive damage and make it a Legendary Action.

Oh yeah and increase its movement speed to 60.

Will Perdew shit that's good

Mad Scientist Death Ray Threat, nice!

S Toy that always goes well in the stories.

I believe in 5e other people can get to your demiplane if they have knowledge of it.

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Fuck you.

no the tarrasque

"Fuck you, I can fly."

I haven't had a chance to watch your video of the fight, but your response confirms my suspicions. I went into research for the episode thinking the Tarrasque must be insanely powerful for a CR 30 monster, but after looking over the stats, I was left feeling underwhelmed. I should have known better considering my thoughts on the demon lords in OotA, but I was holding out hope for the Tarrasque. Have you seen the Epic-level monsters project over on ENWorld? A poster there is trying to beef up monsters of CR 20+ but I haven't tried any of them out yet.

I myself had a similar experience. My DM had created a one shot for the lot of us to try out 20th level builds against a flying tarrasque, and just by handling it like a ragnaros fight we ended it all pretty quickly (Well... as far as that healthpool goes anyway..)

Nerdarchy

Our 5-player 16th level group took out a Tarrasque not too bad. We had griffons and I played the Ranger with sharpshooter though... so....

The thing I feel about big monsters is that they're not supposed to be the first and only challenge you run into after a long rest. Like yeah, of course everything's easy when you've got all your spells, one-a-days and x-a-rests up, and you know you're not going to be fighting anything else after.

Kardel acquisition incorporated is a dnd game you csn watch on KZfaq they actually fight against the tarrasque in a giant stone golem

My god man.....You're the monster!

Aaawww shucks...you're just saying that..(blush)

Hah, like that great image of the tarrasque tied to a blimp!

I gave my Tarrasque a breath attack as a legendary action. Split Force/Fire.

oh god. with legs that can go as fast as 900 horses

Nice. Rodan, Gamera, and.... worm Mothra? fighting Godzilla.

The tarrasque would still win.

-yoink

You absolutely should, just make sure to properly instruct your party that now is the time to run away and defecate loudly, in whatever order is best at the time.

What do you mean. I literally told my players they would be fighting it the second day of my campaign in an in game month while they were level 5. Unfortunately they are level 11 now but they shouldn't break lvl 13

Definitely have this thing come by the 1st level dungeon. It's always good to spice things up.

It would be a great way to tame down a party of murder hobos. "You murdered the entire village I had a several session arc planned in, so here, try to murder Godzilla. You fucking psychopaths."

Raptormann0205 All they need to beat it is a Clay Golem

If they know it's coming with enough time in advance.

ilovethelegend Sure, a gargantuan monster is hard to miss. Each step should be audible within dozens of miles...

I doubt a dm would send in a tarrasque without giving days of preparation. The tarrasque is too strong to send against them in a surprising fashion.

ilovethelegend once your party is ready to fight the tarrasque you should be eating hero's feasts every day if you are in a high magic campaign

@@darkbunny9994 to be honest, it kinda isn't, ignoring casters a party of a few well min maxed fighters could shred one in a couple of rounds. Even a relatively un optimised samurai fighter build I've been toying with in my head can deal nine attacks with action surge, each of whcih (apart from one) has advantage and hits for 2d6+5+3+10 (assuming you've got a +3 sword). You are also likely to get at least one crit since you role like 17 attack dice. This is assuming no haste, no buffs from other party members (like inspiration or bless), no debuffs applied to the creatrue ect. A few of these guys (using a build I admit is kinda shit) could kill one.

If anything, I find the stats on the 5e Tarrasque to be underwhelming in that regard. It should be an eternal, nigh unkillable force of nature. As the center-piece of a campaign, I'd certainly use the Tarrasque in the manner you describe. However, by virtue of it having a stat block, the door is open to discussion of how to actually tackle the monster. It's an "issue" of the game since the first players took a look at the gods and said, "We can take 'em."

James Davis You can thank AD&D's "Dieties & Demigods" for that.

Another idea along the same longs is make the tarrasque target a building and the PCs must prevent it from reaching and destroying. So, the tarrasque is more like a moving living disaster than a monster to slay.

In my setting fluff, both the Tarrasque and the Krakens were created in an attempt to end the Age of Thunder, when the world was in chaos from outside invasions and the overdeity was just throwing things at them until they stopped. They're creatures of legend, nearly lost to time, and with God dying, waking them up is a very, very bad thing. If my players get that far, it could be the final arc that one or both got woken up, or maybe need to be to stop another Age of Thunder.

Barjack521 10/10 druid approved.

See, now you're thinking like my players do. The Cleric got access to meld stone and their first question was "How can I use this to drown Strahd?" They eventually came up with a plan to trap Strahd in his bedroom and spam Create/Destroy Water to slowly flood it. Sadly Strahd wasn't in his bedroom. They still cheesed the boss fight like they have for every major encounter thus far though.

except the tarrasque can not take leathle damage and at leaset in 3.5 it has 40 points of regeneration and takes none leathal dam evan from death and disintigration and recovers evan if it fails a saving throw

@@jerrybaker9855 this was specifically the 5e tarrasque, which has been severely neutered

*Transmute Rock (5th level transmutation, druid/wizard, XGtE)* Casting time: 1 action Range: 120ft. Components: V S M (clay and water) Duration: until dispelled You choose an area of stone or mud that you can see that fits within a 40-foot cube and is within range, and choose one of the following effects. _Transmute Rock to Mud._ Nonmagical rock of any sort in the area becomes an equal volume of thick, flowing mud that remains for the spell’s duration. The ground in the spell’s area becomes muddy enough that creatures can sink into it. Each foot that a creature moves through the mud costs 4 feet of movement, and any creature on the ground when you cast the spell must make a Strength saving throw. A creature must also make the saving throw when it moves into the area for the first time on a turn or ends its turn there. On a failed save, a creature sinks into the mud and is restrained, though it can use an action to end the restrained condition on itself by pulling itself free of the mud. If you cast the spell on a ceiling, the mud falls. Any creature under the mud when it falls must make a Dexterity saving throw. A creature takes 4d8 bludgeoning damage on a failed save, or half as much damage on a successful one. _Transmute Mud to Rock._ Nonmagical mud or quicksand in the area no more than 10 feet deep transforms into soft stone for the spell’s duration. Any creature in the mud when it transforms must make a Dexterity saving throw. On a successful save, a creature is shunted safely to the surface in an unoccupied space. On a failed save, a creature becomes restrained by the rock. A restrained creature, or another creature within reach, can use an action to try to break the rock by succeeding on a DC 20 Strength check or by dealing damage to it. The rock has AC 15 and 25 hit points, and it is immune to poison and psychic damage.

I like that idea. Despite its low Int, it just knows how to fight because that's what it's made for.

I agree but I also feel like its a bit weak for its reputation, I picture it like godzilla, I dont see how 100 lvl 1 fighters could kill it. But they could just through sheer number of natural 20s. When it appears in my campaigns it is a god on earth a mad titan, nothing a lvl 20 wizard could handle. By casting poly morph 8 times while flying.... You cannot defeat it, you can send it back to sleep maybe, or a cabal of powerful wizards could control it. But flying carpets and arrows????????????????????????????? No this thing is gonna pick up a 1 ton boulder and chuck it at you 150 mph. I feel it's way to weak in the monster manual for my liking I think of it more as a 5000 hp sort of creature, that is versatile, extremely resistant to magic, and hungry very hungry, eating trees as it storms through a forest running down any meat it can spot. In my current campaign the gods have put a leash on it as they've defeated the primordials. They send an angel down let it lose every few decades, let it rampage a few weeks so It gets tired. Particularly baiting it or manipulating its dreams so it hunts a certain creature or force, an evil empire or kingdom and then it returns to rest, of course the red wizards may attempt to rein in the titan to stop this huge thorn in their side.

I've always liked the idea of the monster manual (or any reference with creature stats) to be a suggestive template. Who says you can't take the Tarrasque back to what it was in 2e? Or keep its 5e stats, but bump up its INT and give it a breath weapon (or as you mentioned, the ability to hurl large objects)...

SomeTenRandom thats kinda silly

It's like the Kraken. Not really smart, just there to wreck shit when it's needed.

Interesting idea. I like it :) Your comment is correct about PC pancakes

Pressure = Force × Area. Smaller bodies can only handle so much

Actually Pressure = Force / Area, which is equivalent to Force = Pressure x Area.

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Scale is one thing I've always had an issue with in D&D, honestly, and that's mostly because we just have a really hard time understanding it usually. Something that large swinging it's tail isn't going to hit just ol' Tom the Tank. No, he's gonna hit Tom and everything around him. And a max 34 damage isn't quite right when Tom and pals are being hit by something as big as a small inn. That's squish you like a bug size regardless of speed or strength. A building falls on you, you gon' die, at the least be in very very bad shape.

It's great fun man, get stuck in. Even better with visual aids like Roll20

That one american welcome traveler. Please enjoy your stay here, drink ale, fight for glory, and ignore the goblin trying to hit you with it's stone dagger.

dude you missed a lot (remember don't split the party)

you should definetly try it. i would say 85% of people who try it enjoy it. watch this vid to find out more about it kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e9WPorVovrWRcqs.html

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would not work the tarraque is immune to poison fire disease energy drain ability damage and has a spell resistance of 32 and regen of 40

@@jerrybaker9855 3.5 does not equate 5e unless you as the dm alter it to be so. For 5e this is actually a viable option, though tbh honest the wizard inside better be carrying a portable hole filled with bottled air, otherwise they'll likely suffocate long before killing the tarrasque.

Bill Kong is... Is that even possible?

king bloxxor I have run the numbers and I can give you a confident shrug.

Yep. It's definitely possible. Don't underestimate wizards, lol

Only trick is you need one wizard to hold concentration on polymorph and a second to cast wall of force, otherwise neither of the spells have any written limitation that would prevent this from happening.

Don’t forget the magic resistance lol... makes it pretty dam hard to make the spells stick

Thanks!

i was going to do that on my own campaign where it revolves around chtulhu but i got bored and decided to make cthulhu and his mind flyers take control over the terrasque so it served cthulhu,

I don't think a tarrasque is strong enough to stop Cthulhu

You are doing Lovecraft "wrong" though. As far as i know the original lovecraft was more about overwhelming cosmic horror than about big bad monsters. They were supposed to be so powerful than any comprehensible way of tackling it is doomed to fail and the way attempt was stopped is within itself outside of comprehension and it risks getting attention of mentioned entity.

pprandomnpz That last one would be a crazy reveal, it dies and changes back into a person. Love it

Perhaps the Tarrasque was the party's favourite NPC this whole time, and killing the monster also kills a friend. Yaaay drama. Also, a dire Tarrasque would be the end of all things.

pprandomnpz ninja pirate zombie robot

"I found this player race on dndwiki, the wereterrasque. Totally cool yeah?"

Well, then à weretarrasque would speak with some ugly french accent i guess...

Can't stop. Won't stop!

We're happy to please! Glad you liked the live play.

Have y'all considered streaming your games on twitch? I would pay money for that. Also, love your DM style. Your poker face is on point.

Luddite that I am, I'm not that familiar with Twitch. I'll leave it up to our brilliant producer/editor to work out those details. And that poker face came from years of having to put up with Pruitt's shenanigans as a DM. "Oh, you did 100+ damage in one round again...okay."

+James Davis You still not sore about that dragon that Theron destroyed in 1.5 rounds, are you?

No more than Josh's Highhawk downing that Adult Green in one round. Y'all's high damage scores over the years mean my bar to be impressed is set mighty high now.

How's your campaign coming along? If I recall you're running an Eberron game, right?

It's going good so far, had to put a small hiatus on it due to me moving, but lots of twist and turns that have kept my players on their toes. I'll be ending it in a few months to start either a modern/secret world campaign or an outer planes campaign! Thanks for asking!

Um... have you read the comment section here? About at least a dozen posts on edge-lords taking on a Tarrasque "solo" in undera minute and other nonsense.

My general rule of thumb for most monsters/NPCs is "target the threat most appropriate to the monster/NPC's Int scores, Wis score, and skills". In practice that means beasts will behave like cornered animals if not specifically trained to fight/led into battle. Humanoids will fight using tactics appropriate to their weapons/intelligence/leader's ability. If a creature is trained in Arcana then it can discern between spell casters and make appropriate judgements. Mostly though I treat combat as an extension of the Role-Playing aspect of the game and try to RP the party's opponents to the fullest.

Thanks for the tips Jim, your knowledge is crazy and i watch every week to help make my first campaign as good as it can be. That makes perfect sense that the monsters/NPC's would act in that way and having the Arcana would be able to pinpoint spellcasters. That will be used lol Love all the shows but especially these ones about weird monsters!

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What's The Tarrasque's name?

Welcome to why the monk is op

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Not bad... Down the gullet (swallowed whole) is the key to getting past that pesky "carapace" AC level... lolz. Then it's all about how much damage you can manage before you're character either melts in acid or suffocates... regardless of class. :o)

You never lose the last hit point. Mastery of Death + Perfect Self means you cannot die. You are now a Highlander and can only die when your head comes away from your neck. This exact reason is why my Tarrasque beasts have AC 35, Regen 40hp/round and the bite in half when the bite gets a crit like previous versions did. As a DM, it is my job to adequately challenge ANY party. And if I am doing my job right, there will ALWAYS be foes so scary that the party will run the instant they see one of them appear.

*Omae Wa Mou Shindeiru*

You might have a point, but then again that one guy with his 11 hand-crossbow attacks stuffed into one turn might feel a bit left out

Well a hand crossbow is hardly going to pierce the hide of a Kaiju.

darkbunny 999 if its a magical crossbow it could peirce through fucking diamond if it has too. Not an argument, if they dont have a magical crossbow. Ha! Well good luck with that

Yeah, just like another conversation about size and damage something that big should inflict, size here would also mean that there needs to be some kind of damage reduction. An insect's massive damage compared to size means nearly jack all to someone human size. It'll bother us, but it's not going to subdue us without some other thing coming into play (ie poison's etc.).

Never been consistent at anything in my life... Except liking every new webdm video 😉

It was too perfect a F-up to not use. It's a small peak behind the scenes and into the "intro process".

Your welcome! Thanks for the support.

DrakeMarvell remind me of Azuras Wrath.

More or less actually.....though he only goes into a rage (in-character of course since he's a Monk) when something extremely bad happens.

DrakeMarvell well azura is angry because he got betrayed and his family murdered. Pretty solid reason to go berzerk.

Yeah several NPCs were....violated....and this led to Hagosha getting REALLY angry and declaring a war on the guild that did so.....we wiped them all out, leaving none alive....which also progressed the story since that guild was one that supported Bhaal & Bane, the two gods that we are trying to stop from ending all the realms...

DrakeMarvell thats a custom background story? If so that sound nice!

ShadowAxon The shots would bounce off, as EB is a linear spell attack.

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+JPruInc you faker

We've thought about it. Pruitt has used UA classes for a couple of his characters and I've had other players use the demon summoning spells from Black Magic. I'm sure if we digger deeper we could find something to talk about.

Thanks for your response. I am particularly interested to hear your opinion on the new feats. media.wizards.com/2016/downloads/DND/UA-Feats-V1.pdf

My quick take - Fell-handed: I like the rider effects on adv/dis, curious to see how often they come into play. Blade Mastery: meh, this one leaves me cold, I feel like characters who would take this have better uses for their reaction. Spear Mastery: I'm loving this one! I'm imagining the fight between Hector and Achilles in Troy when I read this feat. Overall, I'd drop the +1 to hit for all of them though and either leave them as is or replace it with something else. I really dig the Tool feats, but think they should go further in their effects.

Fell-handed is brilliant design. Looking at Spear Mastery though, I don't know why I'd get that instead of a polearm and Polearm Mastery. I guess the advantage of Spear Mastery is you could use a shield.

Shield use would be the mechanical reason. Style is another: spear and shield is classic. Don't care for set versus charge using your bonus action and reaction though, I'd probably say you can use a spear to make opportunity attacks against anyone entering your reach. Personally, I'd also rule that spears could be used with Polearm Master.

That subject is on the list!

I read that as 'go to the nine hells' initially

Or the tarrasque could be killed by a group of Metallic dragons from the sky, who would then go to meet the kings and tell them: ''You summoned the Tarrasque? Are you insane!?! We will rules over you from now on: you need our order...''

That would be a dilemma for sure.

I remember one published adventure during the switch from 2e -> 3e featured the Tarrasque as the bringer of the apocalypse. I can see the people of a given D&D world keeping the Tarrasque in a pocket dimension and only bringing it out to fight the big, big baddies.

+James Davis If the Tarrasque is the Bringer of Apocalypse, I could see a campaign in which the antagonists are a group of powerfull archmages trying to summon the Tarrasque to cast the Imprisonnement spell on it and keep it in a gemstone (probably made from the wish spell, because it would need to cost more than 15,000 GP). If they are successfull, they would then use it to become a circle of tyranical rulers.

No... You feed it poor homeless people until it gets full and goes into a food coma. This has the secondary beneficial effect of removing all the derelicts from town.

Always bring an Ancient Red!

Ancient Red should be the name of our craft-brew cider

+James Davis Trademark that shit right now, Jim Davis! Though I think it should be a spiced cider. If there's a dragon on the label there should be some burn to it.

you, sir, are evil. i like it.

-vampirehalfdragontarrasquelich-

Ignore me on my question, I needed to dig deeper into your channel's history!

Looks like you might have already found some of the earlier videos we made! Those were made when our understanding of 5e was less developed compared to now, so the specifics of our recommendations for each class might have changed, but the broad player advice remains the same.

Do you guys expect to make more nitty-gritty focused videos? Thanks.

It's on our List, but right now we've got dozens of show ideas and not a lot of time to get them all out. I'd love to revisit some older topics in greater detail though.

The xenomorph (right) or efreet (left)?

I meant the efreet thanks.

The week seems so long.

Ha-ha-ha! Yeah, that's the joke ;) You guys are uploading so much faster now

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...Why didn't Tiamat just fly up out of where it could hit her easily? She might be a dragon goddess, but she's not stupid.

ilovethelegend I have to re read the guy's entry, but why can you make the Terasque just a climbing machine with great ass jumps. The only way you are out of his range is if he is out of your range too. That and a living trebuche.

*makin' me look up the stats for these god damned things* Climbing wouldn't work great because the tarrasque doesn't have a climb speed. As far as jumping goes, by standard jumping rules it can only jump 13 feet. Now, theoretically you *could* have it do some crazy, Sonic-spin and be able to hit something that's like 110 feet in the air with its tail (personally I would call for an acrobatics check on that to not land prone afterwards but that's just me). If it took the time to climb up a convenient pillar, it might be able to reach an extra 5 feet but Tiamat's longest range attacks are still longer, and since it can't normally reach that high she could strafe the thing all day, even to hit with her shorter ranged attacks. Also, no, reflective carapace does not apply since dragon breath isn't a spell and isn't magical. Even if it did, Tiamat's immune to all of those damage types. If we could include followers, she could get a bunch of cultists with +1 longbows to ride her back and ping the thing to death from 300 feet in the air which would take forever but be doable since the tarrasque doesn't regen anymore in this edition. However, if we do that, there's no reason why the tarrasque couldn't have a wizard with acid immunity sitting in its stomach casting fly and feather fall if applicable. Not that any of that matters, though. The Tarrasque's attacks don't deal magic damage, which means Tiamat is immune to them.

Kur Norock I don't mean to sound like a dick but your numbers are slightly wrong. a 10th level barbarian with 20 strength in 5e only has a +9 to attack. So he needs to role a 16 or higher. so about a 25 percent change to hit at all. Plus I believe the tarrasque has resistance to nonmagical weapons. so if using a great sword he'll do 5-10 damage. Which is a bug bite if it manages to hit.

Alex York Oh right, i forgot that 5e did away with the base attack bonus in favor of the proficiency bonus. One of the things i did not like about 5e. But, a level 10 Barbarian would still likely have an even higher Str score due to ability increases with level and probably items or potions which increase str. Not to mention frenzied rage give advantage on attack rolls. Also, if you don't have a magical weapon by level 10, especially if you are going up against terrasque, you aren't playing right.

you cant go above 20 in 5e for stats

Olaf Olaf Yes you can

Not through ASI you can't. Only through magic items. And even if your DM was stupid enough to give the Barbarian a belt of storm giants strength, your attack bonus is still only +13 at 10th level, still 2 below what you need to hit on average. Oh, you want to Reckless attack to make up for it? Now the Tarrasque has advantage on every attack made against you, _with a +19_ . I hope your 1-3 x 1d12+9's was worth absolutely taking 1x4d12+10, 2x4d8+10, 1x4d10+10 and 1x4d6+10 for an average of 148, halved to 74.

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I usually say it terr-AW-skwey

You are all horrible people

Gina Lekasdottir right? Oh, you is terrasque? I am level 20 barbarian. All of my rage!!!

yea i guess they nerfed it in 5 e cause in 3.5 it has 858 health

Jerry Baker really? So it takes 3 rounds to kill instead of 2? Doesnt seem like much of a nerf to me lol

I plan on giving mine around 1,200-1,500 and they have no idea that it's going to be in the campaign. Lol

NinjaMuffinLTD No that's good: you have to break the crystals first, all the while the Tarrasque is attacking you, or the fights nearly impossible. Maybe some cult of destruction is behind it all

Going to steal this OMG I must convert ender dragon to 5e

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