Exactly! The majority of waste and pollution is produced by companies. Countries making harmful practice expensive, if not impossible, is a major factor in these issues. But as long colonial legacies continue, companies can use them to continue leveraging governments to work in their favour and away from environmental and community interests.

I think a huge huge part of reducing your impact is in producing more of your own food, but in concentrating urban environments, it becomes very difficult to find the space to grow your own. Aside from window boxes, what home-growing options are there?

@@seanthebluesheep Allotments were once popular (and are just beginning to get more popular) in most urban areas council have some areas of green space that could be commandeered for this purpose. Not going to work in all locations by any means but if the demand grew I think councils and community groups could make it happen on a larger scale.

Yes, he’s right on

Totally agree Endy. When it comes to food, the globalisation of production has become our nightmare at our expense but to the gain of mass producers. It's a big issue with many small solutions from home-growing (where possible) right through to education at school. I don't know the answer for sure but products such as soya and nut "milks" are so problematic environmentally, it's good to see a widening range of sources of protein and essential minerals/vitamins.

That's why they're, to me, the best around. They're not pristinely produced and professional to the point of sterility, they're not "wow so cool and random", they're sparing on the plugs even when it comes to their own stuff... They're just five lads having fun while eating damn good food. Life goals!

Just a circle of friends enjoying food together and having a good time. So i have a good time watching em

Yet they have grown in knowledge and maturity, but they haven't grown apart. (I didn't call them mature, I said they've matured.) Hey. Since Ebbers is the only single one of the original 4, can we see a date night series featuring Ebbers?

yeah, no disrespect to Mike with the previous one but i just don't like intros that overstay their welcome more than they need to. Few secs intro is all any audience really asks for.

Almost as if he'd been betrayed

but then when he is told it's vegan he suddenly enjoys it, when clearly he didnt :|

@@NulliSeccundus Eh the immediate reaction to something new can be disliking it at first, I'm sure there are plenty of foods you didn't immediately love but like now.

@@10Tie I really disliked alot of meat for the largest of time. I really liked sausages (white, pork, blood, general inards, whatever the heck else we have locally) but a steak? It made me heave every time. I'm fine with steak now. It's not going to make me jump out of my seat though. But what i've grown to love ALOT is Cordon bleu.

@@NulliSeccundus Or, using your noggin and hearing what Barry said: It started off leathery but then the flavour kicks in and it's not as bad.

I'm glad they acknowledge the drawbacks to things they present (like the transportation problem with soy) rather than only giving the positives. It's important to understand the full picture.

The amount of soy that is fed to animals that are bread for us to then eat is so much bigger that humans eating soy isn't a real issue. Also transportation of food is only 2-3% of the emissions, so again not the main culprit environmentally.

@@raisabrandt1306 but if you eat locally raised free range meat you don't have to worry about the transportation at all

@@sashazahradnikova7701 its still consumes more water and is worst for the environment than eating plant-based food. I'm not a vegan or vegetarian, but let's not fool ourselves that any kind of meat would be better for the environment, not to mention ethics.

@@raisabrandt1306 well not if it grazes in places that cannot be used to produce human foods, or even traditional pastures where grazing actually keeps the local environment with plants that need the grazing for their benefit. I just hate when ethics and environment are used as an argument where they do not apply. What we should do is decrease consumption, full stop. Like lately I saw this campaign about using soap as shampoo bottle. Well I usually only wash my hair with water and absolutely not every day. I do not use cosmetics and therefore j need not use creams to repair my skin. I choose footwear for the weather not color and how it goes with my handbag and j do not have a handbag so j believe overall I could live on purely grain fed beef and still be better than an average person.

As conversations about privilege have risen in the last year. This ^ is the ultimate “Wealth vs homegrown.” I’m all for ‘new’ food discoveries and helping communities economically by bringing items to the market, but if it’s a product they depend on- don’t monopolize it. History saw the potato famine. We don’t need to replicate that with every ‘new super food.’

I am sad that cheap cuts of meat like chicken thighs and beef tongue are expensive now because TV chefs make them all the rage. I so feel for people who cannot even get a local grain to eat.

But thats not how economics work. When something has higher demand, something else has less demand. Since practises fluctuate now something else is the accepted low priced food. If people dont even have the funds to buy that then its poverty thats the issue. If people aren't compensated fairly for the now high demand food they produce then its the exploitation thats the issue

Also seeing that it's gluten free, I can forsee it being very popular

@@DimT670 Sure, in theory, but in practice, accessibility is a big issue. If people who rely on quinoa, for example, as their staple food, get priced out of it... maybe something like lentils goes down in price. How are they supposed to get the lentils? If the lentils are grown in India and the people relying on quinoa are in Peru, they can't buy it even if it's cheap. It's just not available to buy. So their options are spending a lot of money on quinoa, or turning to cheap fast food.

I came here just to point out that great quote. Thank you Ebbers!

It does work, though. You won't change 7 billion people's minds overnight, or at least not in a way that's reasonable to make a difference. Big business is the problem and everyone knows this.

Absolutely! And they will remove a segment when they get new info on the product they have reviewed and filmed, if they have gotten something wrong! Very responsible and still entertaining!

I'd personally and happily eat vegan-only food if it wasn't for the fact it's usually much more expensive for ingredients, needs a lot more work and time to simulate the flavors you're used to (beef, chicken, eggy pasta, etc.)... It's just more work, less reward and subpar experience for me. I tried to 'quality' vegan jerky recently and it just.... it did not taste like jerky. It was also oddly shaped. I've tried vegan 'meat' as well and it also just fall below standards for me. Would I perhaps live an extra 5 years if I went full vegan? perhaps. Do I honestly care if I live to 80 or 85 and have to give up meat permanently to reach 85? No, it's honestly not worth it. If you just 'survive', what is the point of living? You should enjoy living. And before anyone gets to berate me about eating meat, I think they should focus on stopping the use of alcohol, cigarettes, etc. Ya know the crap that is actually lethal and would be illegal if invented today, rather than 100s if not 1000s of years ago.

Of course Ben did it 😂🤦‍♂️

You can't stop the Benuendoes!

I so loved that line - good laugh.

Seems like that ought to be “InnuBendos,” no?

@@arothmanmusic Now that you say it InnuBendos is correct.

Agreed!

Another veggie here and i've used vegan butter in bechamel and velouté and never noticed a difference but im not a chef 🤣 xx

Thing is if you're going down vegan butter route for bechamel you then need a milk alternative too, and I've yet to taste a vegan "milk" that's comparable.

@@satansbarman yeah - also struggled with that.

@@satansbarman yeah unsweetened soya did it the best for me in cooking, I think I did it with oat milk as well x

Iberic diplomat hahahaha i am LOLing here

@@AmandaMaron He’s the best one we know 😂

Rawr

@Soraia ljubtschenko Motta Idk actually.

Hanji pokhraj ji 🙏

To be fair, it's a £25 bottle which although can be used as a mixer, is also for over ice. It's not concentrated enough and it's not got anything in it that will force you to not drink an entire bottle. This makes £25 feel alot more expensive as you compare it to fancy cordials and juices rather than gins or whiskeys (which would originially be the comparrison as they're replacements) where you can't drink a whole bottle without there being consequences.

Right? Like it needed a comma... "Yerba, mate." (It's MAH-chay... but why quibble.)

@@willardroad Where the hell are you getting chay out of ma tay

@@svn5994 Peru

Yeah, the supposed "solution" they brought up here wasn't so much a solution as it was one single company vowing to be fair to the community that grows it. If for example the product were to take off and become more exclusive/expensive then you can bet your ass there will be exploitation of those very same communities.

Also why not rediscover traditional European grains, we have for example pearled barley which either can be used like rice or like noodles. It is grown in Western, Middle and Eastern Europe. Therefore it doesn't have to travel far to the consumer, which is good for the environment. It doesn't price local communities out of their grain and if you want you could still get the new african grain, but with less risk for the community.

@@betaich i always find it kinda dissapointing when "exotic" grains take off but locally grown ones are completely ignored. especially here in europe where i get a ton of different types of grain grown on the continent that most people have never even heard of

@@betaich exactly! I can find so many brands and types or quinoa, bulgur and couscous in my regular grocery store but the closest place to get barley, rye or even wheatberries is a 40 minutes bike ride away.

Nothing to add just commenting so the thread is visible to others!

all of them with the "ock-rah" too.

oh thank god someone else noticed, I was afraid I'd been pronouncing it wrong all my life!

Yerba M8!

It struck me as adorably British, but also very wrong.

alright there yerba mate? how you doing today?

join plz

Sorry, it is "OAK-ra". We dont complain about courgettes and aubergines once we know what you're talking about 🤣 Give us okra.

@@iluvdissheet but that's not really the same, is it? It's literally completely different words there, and zucchini and eggplants aren't exacty YOUR foods XD

@@golfshores97 no their not "MY" foods but aren't we talking about the same thing? Are Aubergines really that different than Eggplants? Are we actually talking about a different veg or are we talking about language? Help me understand. Should I go find Aubergines in my grocery store or is it just what we call Eggplants?

'Okra' is an English word. Their pronunciation is fine.

@@Alan_Mac uh... No it isn't. It's west african. Edit: The etymology comes from west african "nkru" which when it was taken over by slaves to the southern US turned the word into okra. It has no origin in the english language, and should be pronounced the way the people who use it do. OAK-ra

Thats not really true tho. While the industry does have a huge impact, consumers also have a huge impact. You just have to calculate it collectively. For example www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jan/24/uk-households-waste-45m-tonnes-of-food-each-year And then there is the portion of the blame that falls on the consumers when they support terrible practises and drive demand as well

Actually (And I can't speak of the UK), most big food industry in the EU have virtually no waste. What is not used in the finished main product is used in other products or processed into animal fodder or fertiliser/compost. Even what is washed off of for instance vegetables goes to a treatment plant for composting.

@@peterhuys2413 That is a fucking lie. Just on carrots 60-80% of carrots grown are tossed into compost (in the farm they where made so just rotting) or used as animal fodder. (remember this is perfectly good food the only thing wrong with it is how it looks. Most are just dumped and left to rot as there are only so many animals around that would need it as food) The portion used for human food is only the ones that are looking good. Same goes for things like potatoes and other roots. Of COURSE, the big food industry has no loss when they DO NOT BUY the products if it is not visually what they want. That does not mean they are not some of the biggest food wasters around. All they are doing is offload it to the farmers, who then have to grow even more vegs even more vegetables just to make the amount larger without the actual portion going up. But hey my source is only the farmers themselves and having worked in a factory (to be fair i was only there a summer) that took in potatoes for crisps.

Hi! Also from India. Family got covid and it was such a scary scary time. My wishes are with you. Hopefully we’ll be fine by the end of this. ❤️

@@supernova200100 Hello!! I hope you are all better now. We all will get through this together. We are a community after all

@Kmann ! We will not go gentle into that goodnight ❤️❤️❤️ This brought tears to my eyes. Thank you so much

I heard about your new battle with covid-19 on NPR radio last night and my heart goes out to you and all your countrymen. I understand you guys are being asked to all stay home again? Things in the USA are also spiking again, mostly because of the odd sense of entitlement my fellow Americans seem to feel. Somehow they see protecting each other as an infringement on their "civil rights". A way of thinking I don't understand. The state I live in now has 60% of the Covid hospitalizations being people 40 years old and YOUNGER. Because they don't believe it's real. Because they don't want to be Guinea pigs for the medicines. Because they don't want to be told what to do. Because they don't feel sick. To that last statement I say, " Teachers, parents, please educate our youth about Typhoid Mary!!! Her story is so relative right now. If more people knew her story maybe they could better understand that you can kill people around you without ever knowing you are a carrier. Sorry to carry on so long, I really just wanted to say we all hope and pray you, and the rest of the world, get safe and healthy as quickly as we can.

@@GrandmaLoves2Scuba i know right?! The amount of ignorance is another factor that has compounded the situation in India too. Thank you for your supporting words. I hope you stay put too. Take care❤️

Or soup and sandwich. :)

exactly. Like meat eaters can literally be healthy by adding veg alongside their meat, like a chicken caesar salad without a creamy dressing. It's just a matter of our different diet lifestyles, beliefs, moral values and health conditions and mindsets in play all at once. I'm a flexitarian on the veggie, vegan and GF side currently bc of all of these factors i've just mentioned.

Have you attempted it again since this video? Would love to know if it does improve it.

I feel like the occams razor solution to banana peels is to compost them instead of cook and eat them.

@@mysisterisafoodie what if you don't do compost tho

@@ThePeaceluffer then throw them in your organic trash. It’s not banana peels that are an issue. It’s non bio degradable trash that is an issue. I fail to see the benefits of eating something that has no nutritional value and takes a significant amount of energy to make edible, if anything that is wasteful.

@@mysisterisafoodie you're correct there, I just keep seeing people talking about composting and felt like commenting on it.

I (also from the Southern US) was thinking the same thing.

I'm a Midwesterner and I cringed.

It's almost as if they speak differently from us.

i don't personally hear a difference between what you spelled out and what they were saying, can you elaborate on how it's supposed to be pronounced? Also yeah the British have a distinct way of saying some things and it wont really ever change.

@@Trashfire_Nee they mean "oh" as in boat not "o" as in hot.

Bah, it's no good for me!!

Agreed. And even though the company claims they won't exploit the people/grain, I don't trust that claim anywhere near enough. Because what's to stop another company from swooping in and doing the same thing? We have plenty of local grains, there's just no need to start exploiting grains from other countries and cultures, too much risk of damaging a local foodchain and economy

Love how you started this off as a "hey, thanks" comment, then at the end decide to call the Sorted crew "meat eaters" in a barely disguised slur. Typical.

@@Maghanashi How the fuck is meat eater a slur 😂 they eat meat, they’re meat eaters 😂

Thank you !

Seriously, I am genuinely disappointed that a usually conscientious channel like Sorted has pushed such a thoroughly debunked argument against adopting a vegetarian/vegan diet.

Thank you!!!

Genuine question, not trying to start a fight or anything, legitimately curious. If we all went vegan, that wouldn’t the growing of soy increase, so the 70% used for cattle feed would stop but the overall production of soy grow beyond what is already grown?

@@BiggieZeegood question, but no. If you think how it takes about 3-10kg of animal feed to produce 1kg of meat, you would be able to produce 3-10 times the amount of food that is consumed by humans by switching from meat to soy

Been looking for this comment! Yeah, turns out Link is a culinary genius, but hides his talent too well

Glad you pointed this out. It maybe good as a dish but composting is most likely a better waste management solution.

Kind of agree, but not everyone has the space to compost or anywhere to put the compost once it's made. Obviously if you have a garden or a decent sized balcony it's great, but otherwise not really feasible

But, don't you have a like a compost bin that gets collected every two to for weeks?

@@HelpMeIfImRight Nope where I live there isn't food waste collection sadly :(

Not only that wouldn’t something like banana peels add very little nutritional value like its basically has nothing

that's a great tip!

Tomatoes with the wet bits squished out, augmented with fresh basil and fresh mozzarella, is one of my go-to midweek meals. (Sometimes I add diced avocado and a packet of shelled, deveined shrimp: delicious!)

I DESPISE the wet parts of tomatoes. I specifically grow tomatoes with as little of that nastiness as possible.

Watch José Andrés celebrate that part of the tomato like a caviar. It's my fav part and I hate that people throw it away.

@@KaynadianGinger you end up wasting 70% of the tomato by throwing it out

what are these wet bits? Are we talking about a specific variety of tomato?

@James Cook I agree with OP and this reply, which made me laugh. Good day indeed.

Yeah I think even washing them won't get rid of all the stuff. I'd only do it with organic bananas to be honest. Still a good idea though - but on industrial level really hard to accomplish because of the chemicals.

@@Pudeta I did think that might be the case, that's unfortunate, last thing we need is to be ingesting any more chemicals than we already do!

I thought of this as well

Don’t forget that organic farming still uses pesticides! Just “organic” ones that may not be as safe as traditional pesticides. @foodsciencebabe is a great Insta account to learn about food science and safety

That and honestly no one really drinks them in reality which only keeps the costs higher.... People drink alcohol for it's effect not the taste.

@@SilvaDreams I’m not sure that’s always the case. Certainly for some demographics, but especially for higher end stuff I assume people drink it for the taste. No one gets a 50 euro bottle of whiskey to get hammered, right? I would like to try those alternatives, they do sound very tasty and I don’t really drink alcohol anymore. But the price is certainly too steep, I can agree with that.

Sometimes people would want an alcohol free "spirit" because they're the designated driver, or gotta go somewhere afterwards. Basically anything that requires people to go out. Hell some people just don't like drinking alcohol outside of their house for whatever reason (bad with the booze, affects them in ways they don't like others seeing/knowing about) or just don't generally like alcohol, whether it be the affect or the taste. But for the price, most would rather get a soda, juice, or other cheap, decent tasting alternative. I've had more than a few times where i didn't want to drink because i was leaving soon, and the only thing available was water (which i drank) everything else was mixed with alcohol pretty much immediately. If stuff like this was cheap enough, and lasted for a while, a lot more people would buy it just to have it around. They said it tasted great, and i'm sure it did, but if i had to guess, not 25 pounds worth of great. If it was decent in price, i could see myself buying a bottle or two and keeping it with my bottles of alcohol for people who want to participate, but don't necessarily want to get drunk. Hell if it was decent enough, using it as a mixer or drinking it by itself (with no alcohol, not specifically straight).

A lot of thinking their expensive depends on the brands of alcohol you do buy. The people those drinks are aimed at aren't the demographic that buy main stream alcohol. My BIL buys whiskeys that make those alternatives seem cheap by comparison, he'd totally buy some of those as a treat for his non drinking friends at one of his parties and not think twice.

+Nathan Trout This exactly. The makers seem to be greedy bastards just trying to price gouge those stupid enough to buy their product(s).

I've been growing mushrooms ftom those kits for about 6 or so years. I haven't tried the pink oysters yet tho. But the golden oysters and pearl oysters are lovely. And because of those kits I started doing outdoor mushroom logs too We drilled holes in dome 4 week old logs(we used red maple due to my mother losing a huge tree from her yard and they were free.) I bought 200 shiitake plugs and inoculated 8 logs. I've had them for 2 years and harvested about one pound the first year and about 2 pounds the second. I. Hoping for more this year. But we took those bricks from tge oyster kits and stuffed them into holes in more logs and while the pearl one makes a few mushrooms every year it's not quite thriving. And some critters tend to like it more then me. But the logs with golden mushrooms have gone completely bonkers in the yard and produce several flushes of golden oysters a year. I mean absolutely wild amounts. I stopped weighing them after we got 12 pounds from 5 logs. We do have a natural wooded area on our land and noticed this past year that not only have they spread -they have thrived in the broken down trees we let go for the wildlife. So keep that in mind. If you start them outside in logs you actually have them permanently 😊 We didn't like them frozen so when I get too many we've been dehydrating and using that way. We powdered some to add to soups and sauces too. It really bumps up the umami flavors.

Would it be okay to share some of your favourites?

hahahaha, I was thinking about it as well :)

He said it with such confidence that I thought, "Really? Where did I learn that's not how you say it?" Glad to see I've not lost my marbles. Lol

I’m a white Australian and I came straight to the comments to find this.

For a guy who seems interested in foods and bev from that region, I was surprised to hear Ben make such a confident mistake

Or howls from the US over "ok-ra".

This is going to give people major food anxiety and not be able to buy anything. The only thing I can buy locally are eggs.

I was waiting for them to mention this tbh...

@@JehuelM honest question. What is sprayed on bananas that is different and more dangerous than other foods? Like we don't peel apples so do they use something else on them?

@@kbeemer7813 I think you’re in the minority when it comes to not peeling apples, in my household every fruit or veggie is peeled if possible and if not washed like 5 times. And I heard for bananas especially because the growers supplying the western markets don’t expect the peels to be eaten they’re callous about it.

@@elif6908 No they are not why would you peel an apple? Banana skin just doesn't look appealing.

@@elif6908 I would personally say peeling is more common for baking, but on the other hand I see statistics all the time that blow my anecdotal evidence so who knows. The one that gets me is the amount of people who wash their chicken. No. Just no for so many reasons.

Spoiler warning: Probably. Then it'll be dumped when the "westerners" (AKA Companies) realise there's no money to be made. So the westerners who had nothing to do with it get the blame. Your argument is with businesses, not people from the west.

Yeah, and they didn't even mention if it actually gets you drunk... Kind of pointless if it just gives you a slight buzz but no actual inebriation.

They are just trying to take advantage of the trend of plant-based like most.

Yeah. that's some slightly odd phrasing. There are some alcohol products that aren't vegan/vegetarian (generally due to fish-based products being used for filtering in some brewing methods for wines and beers), but leading with that front-and-centre seems very strange.

@@SkySweeperSyn it was alcohol free, I think they mentioned it has caffeine

@@SkySweeperSyn Crazy concept, but some people drink alcohol without the intentions of getting drunk.

Yes good ideas !!! I hope they see this

@@marianna3253 And I hope it inspires both James and Ben to pick up the trend and expand on it. I'd love to see a basil & sour orange marmalade, maybe a plum pudding with lemon thyme, that sort of thing. Because we haven't seen a whole lot of test kitchen/experimentation on the channel. Failed experiments in the trend would be especially fun to see, as well as educational. And if we really wanted to make it crazy, it could be followed up with a free-for-all battle on the trend. Winner takes a badge of their choosing, and if the winner is a chef, he gets to take _away_ a badge from the person who did the worst. And if, by some reason, that loser is the other chef, the losing chef has to buy the winner an item from the last year's pretentious foods trials, winner's choice.

Welcome back!

You sure that would be the case if they've been cooked? I'm highly allergic to raw carrots, but when properly cooked or fried I'm totally fine with them. Same goes for apples in my case, even though I'm thankfully not that highly allergic to them any more, can only eat very little of them raw, but cooked, fried or baked I'm absolutely fine. Maybe give it a - very careful please - try with the cooked peels?

Hope you're not the one driving

@@WakkoTheWakken Nope, my fiancé is!

@@erinhowett3630 Where are you going?

I got a label on my banoodle!

😂 we'd be surprised if someone hasn't created one already.

I was introduced to it by an Argentinian, so I always think of it as "Sher-ba Mah-tay".

I was introduced to it by an Argentinian, so I always think of it as "Sher-ba Mah-tay".

This! Everyone sidelined with Yerba mate and overlooking them saying ahkra lol is that a normal British way of saying it?! I lived in England for a while a few years back but I don't recall hearing anyone say okra so I'm not even sure...

Exactly - and there is a non-alcoholic Gin brand too, if Gin is your thing? We're sure many more non -alcoholic drinks will be developed in the future too.

@@SortedFood Not a huge fan of gin on its own but I am open to alternatives ^^

I’m the same - it’s silly, but I sometimes feel awkward going out with uni friends and not drinking, and this would be a really nice option!

@@emmellanna Totally with you there. Most of my friends are relatively heavy drinkers and most enjoy parties. I don't do either so it's awkward when I am invited.

@@ZanguSwe I would recommend something like Heineken zero, not particularly that brand but it's the only non alcoholic brand I know, it could passably be alcohol especially if it's poured out its can. It's also much friendlier to a student budget than those quite frankly overpriced bougie beverages. I can't see why they would be so expensive other than to exploit people who lean into all that kind of new age stuff.