Hey friends! What do you think about tattoo schools?
@ashleymasloff74486 жыл бұрын
In the state of Oregon it’s actually required to attend schooling before you can even apply for an apprenticeship. No shop can legally let you tattoo ever in their shop without going to school and getting licensed. The schooling is expensive as well, over 10k. The road to tattooing is hard before you even begin...
@TattooShopTalk6 жыл бұрын
That is interesting
@saralynn84625 жыл бұрын
I know this is an old comment, but I live in Oregon as well, I’ve been working my butt off continually to get my 10k+ saved up...I am so passionate about the art of tattooing and know I am making the right career choice for my future. But man, it is hard to just get started... that 10k just seems so far away sometimes, it can be so discouraging😞
@ElleWhiteTV5 жыл бұрын
Im saving up for my husband to go too. Oregon sucks in this regard. It's all he ever wanted to do.
@100tattoo3 жыл бұрын
Such bs.. I support state tattoo laws as far as standard sanitation and sterilization practices but that’s it. 10k... that’s ridiculous. I’d move down to Cali it’s easier to get in here haha
@robinthomas27033 жыл бұрын
@@100tattoo oregon.... the land of makeshift tattoo artists with little to no talent. If you got cash...
@bls89054 жыл бұрын
Self taught artist I observed closely every time I got tatted and a firm arm no shakiness most importantly have to love what you’re doing ✍🏽
@luxstarlonewolf21174 жыл бұрын
As a tattoo artists... I hate the fact its so hard to get help or to get started. Im happy they started schools for it but its still not enough. Theirs no place to sign up to be an apprentice. Ive been looking for a master for 6 years. And every artist i came across didnt want to take me in and kind of was jerks about it. If shops was more open to taking in ppl who are ginuwine about the craft i would be a master my self. But with or without a master im going to learn... Im about to go to a school here in jersey. Not for the art. But really for the technical side of it. Like whats the best machines, how to correctly tune a machine, how to properly sterilize a machine... What needles is best for what job. You tube is really no help. You need hands on experience.
@TattooShopTalk4 жыл бұрын
On KZfaq you can get a rough idea on what is up. You really need hands on and someone to look at what you're doing and how.
@100tattoo3 жыл бұрын
Have you ever gotten tattooed by the guys who you asked?
@jptrout2356 жыл бұрын
I'm a self taught tattooer I would never pay for a tattoo school. There are no easy shortcuts in this... I've been an artist my whole life and been tattooing almost a year and I haven't even scratched the surface... I respect the craft but where I live there is no one willing to help me so I do what I have to do.... now I know a lot of great artist started this way...
@TattooShopTalk6 жыл бұрын
Never stop learning and it will get you somewhere
@infamousjoker76514 жыл бұрын
I wanted to be a good tattooist since i was little. I did get into a shop at 19...the apprenticeship..well. I gor cheatwd...but didn't pay so..and i learned some things u only learn as an apprentice..minus tattooing...he did have me trace EVERYTHING in the shop...and that is more important than anyone who doesn't already know what ir takes ro tattoo..i taught myself some things..and saddly.i have learned most of what i do kno in jail....and even tho i can do some wild work in jail....its not enough...i end up in a shop...but left fle other reasons...at tbks point...its either fully drive for my passion....or end up in jail od dead for personal reasons....anyone feel like talking with me and helping me get every bit of knowledge possible...u said never stop learning...ibsee it that way...but help works... Instagram - InfamousjokerHA send me a message any artist, apprentice, anyome who has knowledge to share
@lr_ink_58502 жыл бұрын
Same here, I’m a self-taught realism artist and tattooer. No apprenticeship or school - no one has time to teach here in the Tampa Bay area. Artists have to use whatever resources are available to us.
@noahadammott6 жыл бұрын
Dude, the 'soul in the tattoo' commentary hit home so hard. Ive tried to articulate this often. I'd rather look at a real life woman with flaws and all, over a perfect plastic photoshopped covergirl any day. Perfection is impressive, but it doesnt often invoke emotion.
@Serena_VA2 жыл бұрын
I love this comment. I agree ☝️ There is beauty in imperfection.
@GravityGamerXCII6 жыл бұрын
I don’t see why people hate scratchers if you do it correctly you can do the same great work as an apprentice at a shop if not better. I started about a year ago, I had $40 left in my pocket so I bought myself a tattoo kit to learn all the basics of a tattoo machine the different parts what everything was used for, then little by little I started upgrading everything didn’t do a tattoo after 5 months, then I did some small tattoos on my friends some hearts and some small crosses came out like shit but an apprentice would have done the same, yet none of my friends have asked to get the tattoo removed or covered cause the lines are pretty straight and it looks great. Over a year later I kept studying drawing every single day I’ve seen almost every single tattoo video on KZfaq I upgraded everything built my own coil machines tuned them myself. Still not charging people for tattoos because I want to build a portfolio once I have I will take the license test and work at a tattoo shop. Once again not everybody has the ability to work at a shop for free and give their time like that, not everybody is ok with being mistreated over something they can learn on their own. I don’t know about you guys but I did pretty good and my work shows it and I’m better than many of the artists that I’ve gotten tattoos from.
@TattooShopTalk6 жыл бұрын
Lately I see that some tattooists say "scratcher" about everyone but themselves or their idols. As long that you are willing to learn and you know your faults it is all good.
@GravityGamerXCII6 жыл бұрын
Tattoo Shop Talk agreed after watching this video I actually did some research and made some calls and found a great job near unfortunately I can only do 1 day out of the week so I am going to build up my profile. Thank you very much for your comment good sir
@TattooShopTalk6 жыл бұрын
All the best luck to you
@painfree13495 жыл бұрын
Can you send me your social media/ email or something, I’m also learning and have a lot of questions if you’ll be willing to help. Thanks
@sundayschooldropout11533 жыл бұрын
Me neither, we ALL started as scratchers just didn’t realize it until we got good enough to realize what a scratcher was. It’s motivational criticism, it’s like if we feel like a scratcher it motivates us to become better. There’s levels to this shit lol you must be a badass artist if you’re better than the artist around you. Either that you surround yourself with artists not as good so you feel like a better artist 🤷🏻♂️
@velez9109 ай бұрын
I say go to school time under the tools then go for apprenticeship school is just for time with the tools that's it in any trade but you will get far more time with the tools in a school then you will hoping around working for free witch so many places ask you to do
@TattooShopTalk8 ай бұрын
Working for free gets less popular but place would still expect some effort towards the shop
@atenakehnaton39654 жыл бұрын
The tattoo world is xenophobic and that's the bottom line. It's an art form that was monopolized by outlaw biker gangs that care more about holding that monopoly than pushing the art form. All you have to do is look at the average tattoo artists work and attitude. Many are more concerned with being cool and making money than they are about tattooing as an art form. Simple as that. Now with the rise of nerd culture and the shift over into who gets tattoos, tattoo culture is swiftly changing for the better. I don't knock tattoo school, you'll learn less at your average tattoo shop.
@curtiscarlson8958 Жыл бұрын
IMHO, a standardized cirriculum like one would find in a 'school' could/should be offered by or provided by the master who is aprenticinig the student. This would take all sorts of beuracracy which I imagine is not what tattooers are proficient at thus thier choice of career.
@TattooSilence6 жыл бұрын
Tattoo school make Money more not better ist a Master and after the option to lehrn more und more and you lehrn never out ! Sorry for my bad English is not my fist language:-) your channel rocks:-)
@zacharyhorvath36155 жыл бұрын
I have a question- What does one do if shops are only interested in hiring artists that already know how to tattoo? I drove around to a few well regarded studios yesterday but most were busy. Luckily two had the time to view my portfolio. When I asked the first place about apprenticeship the owner told me they couldnt take anyone on but was happy to look through my work. He told me that I was way ahead of the competition and said that I could draw better than many tattoo artists, and that if I learned to tattoo I would have no trouble finding work in a shop. The second place also wasn't taking apprentices but the manager and senior shop artist looked through my work were very encouraging. As I left the senior artist gave me his card in the parking lot, and he builds and sells custom machines. I started to think that maybe these artists learned at home first and were either insinuatimg that I do the same and come back or were pulling my chain.
@TattooShopTalk5 жыл бұрын
My guess would be that there are not enough work and shops take in artists with their own clientele or other side of spectrum would be that they are busy enough and don't have time for teaching someone. Other thing is that it shouldn't be that easy that you will come in once and shop will straight up take you in as apprentice. And then also it would be better for you if you could spend more time in shops and get to know place so you really want to be there - don't be that annoying guy but you you can be respectful visitor or even good customer in places.
@zacharyhorvath36155 жыл бұрын
@@TattooShopTalk thanks for the replies! I actually got an apprenticeship the next day, been watching your videos a ton to soak up knowledge.
@compedsushi90304 жыл бұрын
Look into the laws in Oregon about tattooing.
@diogomiguel48816 жыл бұрын
in my country exist a tattoo school that u make 10 classe, 1 per week about 6 hours a day and u pay 1000 euros and u receive a kit and the diploma
@TattooShopTalk6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for input. I wonder how are people doing after they finish such school.
@diogomiguel48816 жыл бұрын
Tattoo Shop Talk most of them go to tattoo shops work or stay in the school tattoing
@Tattoo_Noobie Жыл бұрын
Online courses like Ben Fisher’s or 10Masters are amazing!,also i hate when people at studio’s ask id your good at drawing when applying for an apprenticeship,i always tell them that i apply as a tattoo apprentice not a drawing apprentice 😂
@kyliedurand14205 жыл бұрын
Apprenticeships are so important and it molds us into strong well rounded tattoo artists. They break you for a reason. You can handle terrible clients and how to have a thick as fuck skin. I had a super hard apprenticeship and I’m so grateful I stuck it out even when I wanted to quit. It was the loneliest period of my life. Worked my bum off. Not only are you learning technique but also blood borne pathogens. Teaches self motivation too
@TattooShopTalk5 жыл бұрын
Well said
@curtiscarlson8958 Жыл бұрын
I got a couple, nearly three degrees in other fields of study. Though I am 'educated' and high marks too, It does not mean that I am at all employable in that field... hell it doesn't mean I have even a modicum of common sense. Tattoo school may not mean much now, but I do want my brain surgeon to go and to have graduated from a decent school not the "The Master Brain Surgery Institute."
@genericname16666 жыл бұрын
There is a pretty famous KZfaqr named Elijah Daniel who has a face tattoo above his eyebrow that reads ‘PHAG’. He has a pretty strong following but has recently come under criticism by many because his tattoo looks different in certain pictures and he allegedly claims he fills it in with marker which sounds absurd and like a sad excuse. If you scroll back on his instagram you can see when he initially got it and the pictures he has taken since. A lot of people are suspicious that its fake. I think it would be really cool if you made a video addressing it since if anyone could determine the legitimacy I feel it would be you, not to mention it would no doubt get a lot of views since reaction videos tend to and he is famous on KZfaq.
@connormanning70914 жыл бұрын
Whats the school in lathia/ anyone got any alternatives to having to save up two years worth of rent?
@janamatrix83875 жыл бұрын
Would you say it's almost impossible to get a job at a real shop with a tattoo school license? Or maybe going to tattoo conventions and working then using that as portfolio before applying to a real shop. Would that work better maybe?
@TattooShopTalk5 жыл бұрын
It depends what do you call real shop. There are plenty of shops who take anyone in and there are shops where other things are more important
@Falconhotshot973 жыл бұрын
Dont outshine the master and never fill a great mans shoes.
@100tattoo3 жыл бұрын
“Tattoo school” is such a joke. I think It’s good that it’s so hard to get into tattooing. It means only the people who are truly dedicated and truly love it will succeed. If you are dedicated enough, you can get in. Luck is preparation meets opportunity. It’s simple, draw, a lot, draw tattoo stuff, paint, learn the history. Most importantly get tattooed. Go to the shop you would be excited to apprentice at, and get tattooed! You can spend hours on the shop and artists will get to know you, then you can develop a relationship and from there an apprenticeship may occur. People who want to be tattooers but don’t wanna go get tattooed before don’t belong.
@TattooShopTalk3 жыл бұрын
It's hard to get in a good shop ... not so hard in some shop
@100tattoo3 жыл бұрын
@@TattooShopTalk that’s true, I got in at some local shop, not the good one I got tattooed at. But it took me longer to learn how to tattoo like the guys at the big shop. However years of hard work later I’m now friends with them and guest spot occasionally.
@curtiscarlson8958 Жыл бұрын
maybe they should have a "The Master Junkie Institute" to teach those junkies out there how to handle thier needles, needles and skin depth, and how not to leave tracks but to pull a straight line....hahahhaha
@erikclements83383 жыл бұрын
Hello I am at a bit of a cross road and I was wondering if you could help me out. I live in Sweden and they offer a three year tattoo school here where after they will help you get an appretancship at a shop guaranteed. I have tried to apply for some apprenticeships already but with no luck. I want to honour the tattoo culture as best I can so I was wondering what you think is best. Should I go to the school or continue applying for apprenticeships on my own. Thank you.
@TattooShopTalk3 жыл бұрын
Keep on trying to get apprenticeship. Maybe you are not trying hard enough. Show up in person and show that you can provide value.
@erikclements83383 жыл бұрын
@@TattooShopTalk alright will do thank you for the advice.
@jptrout2356 жыл бұрын
What is a good forum to join?
@TattooShopTalk6 жыл бұрын
There's one bigtattooplanet dot com and then there are tons of Facebook groups as well. There are many out there.
@nunezinkgaming6 жыл бұрын
Guy with beanie is not very comfortable with his body language, very closed off
@TattooShopTalk6 жыл бұрын
That's like most people from his country plus camera adds some scary effect