Very nicely done, professional presentation with a good sense of humour. I'm happy I found this video since it summarizes all of the important factors we now need to know and implement. Thank you for sharing.

Simplified very well. Enjoyed this presentation thoroughly

Very nice, thank you very much for sharing this!

Just what I needed, I was pondering similar thoughts the other day.

He's referring to Thomas Lund, whose seminar(s) can be viewed on the same channel.

This holds true til this day.

Thank you!

Great lecturer!

Great presentation. Definitely explains the whole concept of the new 1770 standard and EBU R128. Good examples too. Now, when will the music industry get their act together and make it so I can swap CD's from an 80's recording to a last-week recording without being blasted out of the room? Lets all hold hands and sway together to bring loudness equalisation and peace on earth.

great lecturer! wish mine would be as interesting

The balance is getting a programme material gain that allows for the all the internal things (headroom, clipping avoidance etc), but also allows amplifiers to use the linear area of their volume pot. That's why I say older 80's pressed CD. They were all around the -18 to -20 LUFS average level. They sounded open and good, and let the amp function correctly. Some recordings, like the modern style, are full of "fake bass" and hard treble, but that's another story...

@toxicfoxy He said it's a mixture of k-weighting and lufs, he said the terminology isn't ideal but this is just what they call it. It's the exact same as lufs.

I'm in electronic music production and I WISH our community could/would adopt LUFS

Foobar2000 ReplayGain uses (I think) 32 bit internal processing. So is similar to most reasonable audio editing software out there, in regards to gain changing at 32bit precision. The limitation is the soundcard/DAC. If it only accepts 16 bit source, the gain adjusted audio must be dithered down. Different dithering and noise shaping sounds (more like 'feels') different, so it's different tools for different tunes. Modern CD players upsample internally to 24bit 192KHz (I think).

Any digital gain change will result in quantisation errors. The lower the bit rate, the worse the errors can be. The waveform gets bent and twisted and the sound can loose focus, stereo image, body, and start sounding metallic and synthetic. Enter dithering, to randomise these errors. Add noise shaping to shift the resultant dither 'hiss' to less-audible regions. Anyway, the point is, digital gain change (ReplayGain) isn't a free lunch, and so isn't likely to be implemented across HiQ HiFi.

5 years later, has anything changed really?

I need to download this somehow..... is there no downloading links?

Can I please ask if anybody knows who is the "Thomas", Florian Camerer is referring to? Thanks.

Last weeks recordings do sound terrible... There's an argument that suggests cranking the analogue volume pot on your amp is just burning watts. If you turn up the digital file, then you save electric. But, as the music is too loud now, a lot of amp's aren't capable of playing the music quiet, due to the non-logarithmic behaviour of the volume pot at the ends of travel. It sounds crap if the volume dial is below a level, a "cut off" point if you like. You get no body, and it sounds rough.

19:24 - Why doesn't the K-weighting standard include a lowpass as do all the other curves? R.128 gives too high loudness reading for synthetic, treble rich music.

Nope, this is still the bleeding edge, but some of us old timers are just now re-thinking our methods.

I don't know if that's a good idea, last weeks recordings might begin to sound terrible! :)

around min 23: why would you put gain on the channels which are received as louder either way? wouldn't you have to turn them down?

I don't care about 0.5kwatt/hr when music goes from awful to playable. If I was worried about my bills, I'd go micro stereo, not 90+ Watt RMS :) A tagging system, like "ReplayGain". Foobar2000 already employs EBU-R128 based ReplayGain, through libebur128. Now, there is some controversy over implementing a replay gain changing system. Over the in Steve Hoffman Music Forum, a few folks have argued that it 'can' / 'does' degrade the sound. Others have said it doesn't.

I think the R128 loudness standard is an arsy way of ending the loudness war, I'm glad the recorded music industry is collapsing. Maybe one day people will be allowed to do what they want instead of sticking everyone in one box!

But employing even software, digital gain adjustment, inside a CD player, would be extra stuff that could damage the sound purity. The bottom line, there should have been a target standard defined years ago for music loudness. At least everything would be in a similar ball-park. C'mon they even had multiple tone curves for vinyl, across genres and labels at one time! They need governing properly.

I would'nt worry about saving electricity! Your saying they go straight past the sweet spot? Well I hope next is a tagging system implemented across all format's (if not in progress already). Prefereably performed by player to try and avoid cheating. Imagine itunes and media player with "EBU Mode" on by default. Or Locked XD.Anyway a welcome standard.

Has anyone told these grumpy people that nobody has died in the loudness war. Let individuality be a choice!

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