It would have been a great video that's for sure

Actually I think the last year of the G2 was pretty much figured out, it even had some performance upgrades that nobody knew about, or was even talked about. Such a great motor that never had a chance to prove itself. Very disappointed to see it go. This new Rotax is the 3 cylinder G2 which was a fantastic small motor but adding the extra 90 degree turn will likely pull to much power from it. I’m looking forward to the 6 cylinder version of this. I think this new design will be fantastic on pontoon boats, but can’t see the benefits over a G2 on a fishing boat yet👍🏻

@@JR-ho5qm Yeah. The G2 and even the G1 (I have an amazing 115 on my 18') had at least 5 years left..

That g2 is the best looking outboard I’ve seen. Love the looks especially in white but I’m a Yamaha guy.

@@TrippyWheelz totally agree man. Imo it's the nicest looking outboard ever produced. They make any boat they are on look aggressive. Wish they worked harder to fix the few issues on the big ones

The merc 600 has it. I feel like it will trickle down eventually.

You and team marine gotta do a video together

@@chrisrogers3175 OMG yessssss!!!!!

honestly supprized outboards don't have cvt's

That would definitely give us better GPH for long runs.

Because that's not easy

They shafted their whole distribution network in an ass-hat way.

Hello!!

Never mind I just had to go watch the unveiling video man that thing looks like junk and the guy speaking is totally full of bulls%$#!

@@garywooten8612 And to think I could have been in the crowd Booing! 🤣

Pls do why is procraft bad

Same engineer who designed Roland Martins Helicopter sex toy lure. NAY!

Btw the picture of the motor loooks ugly

Everything is Mega now so Mega flop

@@rogercastle2434 HAHAHAHA

It probably will not be warrantied for saltwater. Its the next volvo stern.

Haha for sure!

Us too Cody!

Yam/zuk ALL DAY

No they are Japanese. Stick to Mercury. They are American made.

@@conmanumber1 I am always about supporting American made, but when it comes to these motors I want reliability. If the American made products are crap and not holding up, why would I waste my money on something I can't rely on whether it's American made or not. It's sad to see stuff that is American made go down hill and I will stick with Yamaha or Suzuki until Mercury can pull their heads out of their you know what.

Best decision you can make

They haven't learn that people don't want 2 strokes anymore. It's kinda sad but reality is reality! Come on BRP

@@TeamMarineServiceunder 30hp I'll take a 4t. I'll take a 2t 30-75hp over a 4t in that range. because boats under 17 are weight sensative. And old alum boats do not sit right with all the weight hanging off the back. Anything thst needs Over 75hp back to a 4 stroke . If im racing....two stroke all day.

Hey don’t diss the two stroke. 2✊🏻all day!!!

@@TeamMarineService Australia and Europe no more 2 strokes for sale , because of emisions .

@@alphacapo Merc 300X over a Merc 300R?

Maybe i'm getting old! lol

I want my bassboat quit and fast but motorcycle loud

What about the early 80's Black Max's? I was OMC growing up but those 150, 200, 225 Black Max's gave me wood, still do.

Agreed

I miss those old straight 6 engines mercury used to manufacture.

Would that not be because of govt regulation? Aka epa.

Biggest thing with them is to make sure you are running good fuel, don't let them sit forever without use and don't overheat them

We guarantee that the cameras will be on when we get one in our shop! You can count on that!!!!

L-drive. Worst of all worlds!

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The 115,140 and 150 3 cylinder are actually good. I've had multiple mechanics tell me that. They finally got some shit right with it and then pulled the plug

@@EmergeFromTheAshes1 The engine in this Ghost abortion of an outboard is supposed to be the same as was in the 115, 140 and 150 3 cylinder G2s.

What does Victory motorcycle have to do with anything? They are owned by Polaris not BRP.

@@sdvten ya they should have just stuck with the g2 and fixed the issues on the bigger ones. Near the end they actually started to have it figured out. 2018s and up didn't have the steering issues. They replaced a bunch of parts and ignition. Changed the ecu mapping which before was responsible for the ones that blew up. The 115,140, and 150 were a massive upgrade again but it wad to late I guess in brps eyes

@@adamportner8102 oops. I got the parent companies mixed up.

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as someone who works with BRP products. this looks like it's gonna be hell to maintain just like evinrude e-tecs and sea-doo's

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Deal! Thanks buddy

Oh they make some good products but some of them are real head scratchers

Don if you buy one and bring it to the shop I'll pay Jordan to shoot, edit and produce the video on it and give all of the KZfaq Ad revenue that the video generated for 10 years to you!

@@TeamMarineService Hmm, I think I'll keep my 90 SHO for now. I wonder if that piece of **** comes in a tiller that would fit my warrior.

You’re broke, stop talkin!

@@TeamMarineService will you give me that same deal???

We will get around to doing the smaller rigs soon

The tandem axle is a great idea. I do the same.

If they were going to do an engine shaped like that it should be an opposed piston engine so they could get real efficiency and reliablity gains... this engine is just a stopgap IMO yet again.

There are 2 glaring problems with the design that anybody who's been around boats knows are big No No's and for BRP's 22 year old window licking engineers to not be able to figure it out is truly sad. 1. Water will ALWAYS win and get past those 16 bolts and seal flooding the engine compartment. 2. Boat batteries ALWAYS die, the Rotax Underboard uses a water evacuation pump to keep the water out from flooding the engine compartment. Now you hopefully understand how dumb this it! ;)

Neil just said he'd rather work on FICHTS all day then 1 hour of this! HAHA

🤣🤣🤣 Just take a minute and read the comments. Let that be your compass on if it’s a good design/idea or not. Just because it’s a new idea doesn’t mean it’s a good idea 👍🏻

Ghost was actually the original name of this project from BRP, they announced it about a year ago

@@SoFloCamejo understandable, i just think if they're going to redo an outboard like this and its a new and inventive outboard to change the boating industry and you're coming from a motor company who owns trolling motors, GPS fish finders, kayaks, etc. you have the money to make something newer motor to put on the market that can match competitors because itll ball down to those who actually believe in it. like for example, i was a believer in Mercury since i had owned one for 3 years using it but over time, i dealt with Mercury issues i had to fix myself. since i have upgraded to a yamaha, i believe more into that motor because those are more durable than a mercury (in my opinion). Andy put out a video recently on a brand new Pro XS that is spit firing metal from its gears when starting up the motor. that is alarming and would make anyone stray from a merc. im not saying all Merc motors do that but to a consumer, that would make me want to switch to another motor. Evinrude has made only one fourstroke motor based on what Andy has researched and they didnt even make it. its about time they got on their A-game and be on competition with the outboard industry to give consumers options because honestly there should be no reason for the monopoly game to be involved with boating or fishing. fishing can be as expensive as you want it to be. yeah E-tec's are good im sure since those are somewhat popular, but there is a reason why your most common motors on boats today are either Mercury, Yamaha, or possibly Honda (even though Yamaha is owned by Honda)

Haha Yes!!!!!

You are exactly 100% totally without a doubt correct!!!!!! We just shake our heads at a lot of BRP products!

@@TeamMarineService don't get me wrong, they are FUN machines. BUT!! When 95% of MARINE RENTAL companies around the WORLD use Yamaha, there is a reason. You can't have innovation, without homework.

Appreciate you!!!! Thanks

You are correct however this is a new 2 stroke! Not the Sea Doo ACE engines

Hey let’s take 2 1.9l to make a 3.8L OP 2 stroke and achates power should help Rotax with this.mart.cummins.com/imagelibrary/data/assetfiles/0058689.pdf

Very interesting Ken. Time will tell on these that's for sure

Yaaaaaaa, No

GIVE IT CHANCE MMMMMMAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNN. I don't think so junior. And if you think Alumacraft has made such better gains than the competition, then you don't know anything about the industry.

@@charlesdriggers199 I never said that Alumacraft was ahead of the pack in competition, just that I like some of there changes they have mentioned about there new 2023 models. I don’t run Alumacraft however brand competition makes everyone up there game. And aluminum boats need some changes and technology advancements. there basic design is quite stale to me. I’m looking forward to seeing the 6 cylinder high HP version of this Rotax/Evinrude job 👍🏻

@@JR-ho5qm Well said about the Alumacraft boats. Not so much on the Rotax. Remember what was said in this video. Evinrude has been taken out of the equation . You see some,but not enough, people saying this might be a good thing. I have followed this industry for years. Rotax is not tied in with boats. No matter what you think or say. Yes it is with other watercraft, but that is a whole different segment of the market. And this motor will not be included in many avenues where Mercury and Yamaha dominate. Now what you don't seem to get is this man ,and other owners of major shops ,try to tell you what they know works. But, you are not really listening. Oh, you say you are. But not really. And we can go round and round on this subject. You are definitely somewhere affiliated with BRP. You are way too knowledgeable and well versed not to be. It's the old innovate or die mindset. Well, it all depends if what you come up with . A motor that is going to take the boating industry to a redesign just to have these motors hanging five foot off the back?

@@charlesdriggers199 I’m not affiliated with BRP but I am a huge Evinrude fan, I know how good there G2 is when properly rigged. However I am very upset that BRP took there marine products from the current dealers and are now being only sold at BRP shops that carry snowmobiles, quads, side by sides, seadoos now Alumacraft/Rotax. ( everything under one roof) . I am very loyal to this Rotax motor because I know it’s G2 technology however I am more loyal to my marine dealer that no longer is allowed to sell Evinrude/Rotax. I wish that BRP never made this decision because I think customers get better attention and support at dealers that focus only on boats rather than multiple things As far as I know this new design will mount on all boats just like a regular outboard. As much as I believe in the technology I’m also not sure it will take off. There is to much negativity and mis information/ hate about the product. All as I know is the last rendition of the G2 is a fantastic outboard that does lots of things very well 👍🏻

Yes we forgot to mention that. We were told around 16-18% lost

​@@TeamMarineService It wont be that high but yes some. Your truck doesnt loose 18% in the diff, but maybe in the Trans

Our issue is that people are going to spend thousands of dollars on this and we all know what the potential issues will before before it even hits the water. BRP is the kind of company to make an all glass car, promote it as having the best drivers visibility ever but hide the fact that 1 little door tap in the parking lot shatters the whole thing!!! Their marketing department is full of non stop BSer's!!!

@@TeamMarineService What are the potential issues? I thought the 3 cylinder G2 was actually super reliable if you didn't get the built-in steering

@@TeamMarineService yep. The worse part is I don’t think you could even reposed these boats if the engine goes.

@@sawmaster6095 it's half submerged, when you let off the wake will make it 100% underwater. Anything underwater has the potential to leak. And how would you ever notice a leak if it's always hidden under the deck? How do you trim the lower unit out of the water? Cant

BRP and reliability just don't go in the same sentence do they?

It has to be!

Wow! Where ya located Ed?

@@TeamMarineService ln west Michigan Ludington area

@@edschuitema1924 Crazy! Hope they stay a float

@@TeamMarineService I sincerely doubt it, he asked me to leave his store I was there getting bike parts for my motorcycle and one of my friends/ customers asked about it, I said oh you mean the underboard.....

@@edschuitema1924 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

We agree!

We are glad too! Keep this crap over at Rotax and let them be responsible for it. It'll ultimately have crank bearing problems like all of their other 2 stroke engines! Haha

How could you know haven’t even been out yet

a diesel outboard would be better than a rotary lmao. I don't get why people want hp when a boat needs torque because the water is constant drag resistance

@@trevor8467 Rotax are not rotary engines.

@@sdvten my bad lmao 🤣 I just assumed I love there videos just didn't even watch it lmao. my bad

Pivot's and lifts the rear deck?

@@TeamMarineService the clamp on looks very traditional, pivoting at the top of the clamp/mount. Granted, the whole deck above the engine thing is weird, it does look like its designed to lift out of the way but not clear yet if it automatically does this or passively, and what happens if someone is standing on it.

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