TEAM TALK: WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE MERCURY PRO XS??? (NOT GOOD!)

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3 жыл бұрын

TEAM TALK: WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE MERCURY PRO XS??? (NOT GOOD!)
ATTENTION Mercury! What is going on with all of these issues on your new v8's? Comment below on if you had (or are having) any of these problems and how your experience has been with your dealer. We sincerely hope that these are just little fixes and Mercury takes care of everyone.
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@brianblizzard7591
@brianblizzard7591 3 жыл бұрын
I have had the 2020 merc 225 pro xs for 7 months and so far it's been great. Love the engine.
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 3 жыл бұрын
Good to hear Brian!
@jeffcuevas893
@jeffcuevas893 3 жыл бұрын
Same here! Running a 27 pitch prop four blade fury on a 21 foot blazer. Great hole shot and 75mph
@RTerrence
@RTerrence 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2005 Mercury XS Optimax 250HP 2 stroke with 26 pitch prop still going strong.
@mike1970ist
@mike1970ist 2 жыл бұрын
Hi y’all bought a 2022 Phoenix 19 Pro XP with a 225 Merc V8 Pro XS. Motor was made in September 2021 I believe. Just finished my 10 hour break in and she flies no issues smoke or otherwise so far …but thanks for the heads up. Prop is Fury 24 -3 blade. 72+ with plenty more, just trying to learn how to correct the chine walk so I live to take her out again.
@fishing_with_grizz
@fishing_with_grizz 3 жыл бұрын
Love the vids and all the info! Keep it up guys
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy! 👍🏻
@reynaldross354
@reynaldross354 3 жыл бұрын
i just subscribed to this. great vid. very educational. I havent had any problems with my 300 pro xs but i still love this vid
@grantfalk6894
@grantfalk6894 3 жыл бұрын
Bought a 225hp mid 2020 and it revs out to 6000 rpm with a high five 23 inch prop. Goes great.
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, good to hear....what boat and what speed are ya getting?
@kevinflabouyfishing5739
@kevinflabouyfishing5739 3 жыл бұрын
Hes got a crestliner I assume... lol no tackle no gear lol
@ronalexander4955
@ronalexander4955 3 жыл бұрын
A mercury will shut down running a small prop. My old 225 optimax came from a dealer with a 23 pitch and was hitting the rev limit. I ended up running a 25 on 225 21’ pro craft and was hitting 69 in the summer and 73in the winter.
@Lamminator11
@Lamminator11 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the shout out for the little guys. I wish I had a 200. I have a new Mercury 75 and have been wonder what would be the best prop for it. I have a Ranger RT 178 and am looking to push it a bit faster than 45 mph fully loaded. Of course, if that’s not possible, I’m not too worried about it.
@skylerjohn9336
@skylerjohn9336 3 жыл бұрын
I’m running 38 with two guys full tank and full gear in my tracker with a mercury 60
@TheMark9013
@TheMark9013 3 жыл бұрын
And props to this guy. Good info
@timschreiber1584
@timschreiber1584 3 жыл бұрын
2020 225 Pro XS slight smoke on next startup if a long run s made and I leave it tucked all the way down. If I tilt it even it never smokes at all even after a long haul! Performance is good 72 to 74 at 6000 rpm loaded. Fury prop has been blueprinted!
@3sons66
@3sons66 3 жыл бұрын
I'm running a 150 Merc 4 stroke with a 15.5 X 14 pitch 4 blade Turning Point stainless on a heavy 25ft. triple-toon. Was running a stock 15X15 3 blade but could only get 4800 rpm WOT (...not right). The new turning point got me up to 5400 but still feels like it's under performing. Other than the increased RPM and an annoying prop chatter at idle, not much better. You are right though, seems all dealers think the "cure all' is just changing props. Considering a 200 hp Pro Xs since I won't have to upgrade to DTS and can keep existing mechanicals. Hoping the next set up will get me a better outcome. Great video, keep them coming.
@mediaspeedfilms1334
@mediaspeedfilms1334 3 жыл бұрын
I've heard those same stories! Sounds like the quality control team has been on vacation.
@jbjgibbons
@jbjgibbons 3 жыл бұрын
OMG. I wish you could be in every KZfaq video! You are the best! Great video man.
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy!
@thomasstark5381
@thomasstark5381 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, set - up. You need to mention new tanks with plastic in the check valve assy's
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 3 жыл бұрын
Good Point!
@DatGuy960
@DatGuy960 2 жыл бұрын
I was that guy in an '87 Ranger w/a Johnson 150 back in 2017. First tournament on Seminole, at blast off I was #13 and I passed all but one boat heading to my first spot. After weigh-in I was asked numerous questions about what I did to make that motor run that way. Lol# Full throttle and hang on! Lol!
@ryanpotts9934
@ryanpotts9934 3 жыл бұрын
The smoke comes from short hard or long runs. If the motor is trimmed up when u come off plane it allows oil to sit and drain into the combustion chamber. When u start to go to your next spot and fire up the motor if it is still trimmed in the up position it is burning the oil out of the combustion chamber no harm is coming from this to the engine. I had the same problem and from some trial-and-error I have figured out that if you trim the motor down when you come off plane to make the motor almost in a level position or slightly below level position it will not allow that oil to drain into the combustion chamber it flows into the oil passage which drains back into the sump where the oil sits and it will not smoke anymore. This has worked for me and I have had my motor 2 years now.
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 3 жыл бұрын
You are 100% correct as we have had many Merc techs say this. Few also noted the Mercury released a service bulletin on the issue telling the customers to remedy the issue with these methods. In our opinion that's not a very good enough excuse to cover up a potential design flaw. Time will tell!
@joshystenes8284
@joshystenes8284 3 жыл бұрын
Fishing in a tournament that is the last thing I would want to worry about and have to remember everytime i stop. What a pain in the ass IMO
@killerllama8721
@killerllama8721 2 жыл бұрын
Lol. Trimming the motor down when coming off of plane is outboard 101. People driving boats in tournaments nowadays have zero clue about trim, prop size, or just how to drive a boat in general.
@Whitewateradventure970
@Whitewateradventure970 3 жыл бұрын
I bought 115 mercury my guy set it up with 21" prop in CO. so far no complaints.
@mikecollins5146
@mikecollins5146 3 жыл бұрын
What’s your top end speed at what rpm?
@realreviews2003
@realreviews2003 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought a LUND IMPACT 1875 with a 150ProXS I pray to God I dont have issues. Had Mercs in the past and never had major issues, so we'll see.
@louisolvitt847
@louisolvitt847 3 жыл бұрын
Great information Andy!!! Makes me glad I haven't updated from my 2 stroke 😁
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 3 жыл бұрын
No prob Louis!
@othrbro52
@othrbro52 3 жыл бұрын
That’s right 2-stroke proxs
@carlbraucht5542
@carlbraucht5542 3 жыл бұрын
Mercury has had problems with the TPS sensors failing and malfunctioning on the 250s that has been one contributing factor on fuel mixture and smoke on startup issues
@user-zu1pr5cu1n
@user-zu1pr5cu1n 5 ай бұрын
Yes, smoke issue on start up and no top end ? Help so glad I found this channel
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 5 ай бұрын
What prop are ya running?
@jerryswafford6391
@jerryswafford6391 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 200 on my 20' flat-bottomed plate boat and I can get 73mph on a 24p prop. Thanks for the info on the smoking on startup guys.
@v8consumption
@v8consumption 3 жыл бұрын
The mercury 250 and 300 sound so damn good starting up.
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 3 жыл бұрын
Kinda tractor-ish soundibg to us!
@crankinbass5758
@crankinbass5758 3 жыл бұрын
I love our Mercury. However I’m very glad you are telling us these issues. We have noticed some smoke on start up. I thought it was break in period but maybe not. Typing this before finishing the vid so I may have missed something. Excited to watch another awesome vid from you guys!
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 3 жыл бұрын
👍🏻
@johnross6314
@johnross6314 3 жыл бұрын
CrankinBass Check crankcase oil level. Looks like from reports, dealers are over stuffing the V8s with oil. FYI, I have no smoking issues, the motor is stored level, to slightly trimmed in. Oh, and I do not run Amsoil which could be causing smoking. :) Just kidding. As good of a rumor causing issues as some of these other haters are spreading. :) My V8 300 EX been model of perfection for two seasons. FYI.
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 3 жыл бұрын
That's great that your 300 is running strong! If ya get time filter through these comments and find the comment left by the Mercury Technician on the smoking issue and the design flaw!
@toddspindler6190
@toddspindler6190 2 жыл бұрын
My 2021 250 V-8 Mercury is one piece of sh*t… I fish full time or let me say I did fish full time until I bought this junk.. Mine smokes on start ups and might be full of oil one trip and not touching the dip stick the next… 62mph one day and 75mph the next.. I get pissed off jus talking about it… I’m siting here typing this sh*t because it fcked up now and I can’t fish, and I fish for my living 🤷‍♂️ Pay cash for this junk too
@jimk4267
@jimk4267 3 жыл бұрын
Come for the great rant, stay for the awesome cricket!!
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha great comment!!!
@Jsimpson2120
@Jsimpson2120 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2021 250 pro xs and the only problem I had not getting WOT was the hotfoot screws came loose and out of adjustment. I’m running a 24P 3 blade on a Z20 and have hit 74 mph at 5950rpm
@mattlowerax5161
@mattlowerax5161 3 жыл бұрын
Been running Skeeter / Yamaha for 27 yrs with Team Skeeter. I run now a ZX225 / 225SHO with a 25 " prop for all around use and a 27 "" when I need to lay it back and travel to a new area.MERCURY motors are black anchors and want work!!!! CATCH YOU A SKEETER /YAMAHA
@r.b.6407
@r.b.6407 Жыл бұрын
Late answer but just watched the video, as a 4 stroke engine mechanic smoking when starting or restarting after sitting awhile is oil in the combustion area. This us usually valve guide seals or oil leaching into the combustion area some other way. You start it and it smokes at first as it is burning the little bit of oil then cleans out, just a thought.
@davidthornton2466
@davidthornton2466 3 жыл бұрын
Got a 2020 Triton with 250 Merc in July . It started smoking on start up. Left the lake , it was leaking oil out of the water intake . Pinhole in block . Got a brand new motor from Merc . If it's smoking on start up , it's got an oil leak somewhere .
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 3 жыл бұрын
WOW! That is unacceptable, glad Merc took care of ya as they should!
@Kdavis8377
@Kdavis8377 3 жыл бұрын
2021 .204 Ballistic 27P prop.....80.4MPH with full live wells, 47 gallons of fuel and tournament loaded tackle. Mercury 250. Runs like a boss
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 3 жыл бұрын
You got a darn good one! Keep rippin it Kevin! 👍🏻
@Kdavis8377
@Kdavis8377 3 жыл бұрын
@@TeamMarineService Thanks Bro.ive honestly not heard the smoke thing being a big problem. I got a ton of Friends with 250’s and none of them smoke. Maybe our dealer didn’t overfill them with oil. Anyways, with a 8 year warranty I’m gonna run the hell out of it, lol
@edwardabrahamiii3742
@edwardabrahamiii3742 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kdavis8377 if it runs smooth and you do maintinence on your end its gone last longer then your 8 year warranty
@williamriley2528
@williamriley2528 3 жыл бұрын
He's definitely right... I run a 24 Pitch OMC Raker II on my '87 Ranger 375V with an Evinrude XP175.
@saltysteel3996
@saltysteel3996 2 жыл бұрын
Had 1991 Javelin 396F/S with a 1990 Evinrude XP200 with a OMC Raker 24p. Would run 60 to 65 on GPS fully loaded. Sucker would drink gas. It barely got 1 mpg. Lol Was always reliable. Pre-mixed in the gas tank, VRO was removed.
@erikpaterson748
@erikpaterson748 3 жыл бұрын
Merc just published a bulletin about start up smoke being a problem for the customer not a problem with the engine. They're saying that if you store them with the engine level or trimmed all the way in oil runs down the cylinder walls and sits on the rings and weeps past on start up causing a "puff to 10 seconds of smoke"
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 3 жыл бұрын
Great info Erik thank you for posting that! Imagine if your new truck did that and the manufacturer released that bulletin. The fix is ya just have to park your new truck on a slight incline rather than your flat driveway. Hahaha
@erikpaterson748
@erikpaterson748 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree, if I was the customer I'd be upset actually even just as a Merc technician it bothers me. It seems like a cop out. I wonder if they're going to warranty the O2 sensor but they better get it worked out properly before they start catalizing these engines in the near future.
@mediaspeedfilms1334
@mediaspeedfilms1334 3 жыл бұрын
@@erikpaterson748 Wow great info!! Hey Mercury ya got your ears on?
@davidp3391
@davidp3391 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a Mercury 250 on a blazer 650 picked it up 6/10/2021 first time I took it on the water it was leaking gas bad. When I took it out of the water I notice a lot gas was coming out of the foot. I had it for about a week been a dealership ever since.
@MrGibsn1960
@MrGibsn1960 2 жыл бұрын
I've got a Yamaha 200 sho on a 22 ft Xpress X22 and I feel like I should be clearing 50 mph. I wasn't in the rpm range so dropped it to a 17" pitch from the 21" that was on there too get it up to 5400 rpm loaded with gear and family. It's on a jack plate and I've messed with that but not much improvement. I just thought it was how it would be but this video is making me doubt that.
@countryflyer4536
@countryflyer4536 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 225 pro xs on a 1975 lund (long) It came stock with the 19 prop. I tried the 21 as well. the 21 did three miles an hour faster. however my hole shot with the 19 is 3 times quicker. so if you want speed go big if you want the best overall performance stick with the 19. At 6000 ft altutude here in Colorado my boat does 56 mph it takes the guys with the big props at least a mile to catch me.... and they only end up at 59 mph.
@sothrnhunter746
@sothrnhunter746 2 жыл бұрын
I have ranger 188p aluminum , mercury 115 boat with a 19 pitch high elevation (colorado ) as well runs about 46 mph but rpm will get up there a bit , seems about good as is gonna get though, what you think, had a 23p it was terrible …
@margaritogomez9928
@margaritogomez9928 3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to start building my first boat up in Maine what 300 HP would you go if it was your boat, thank you and keep the videos coming
@kimberlybrower925
@kimberlybrower925 3 жыл бұрын
We just moved to a lake house last fall and are about to order a boat. We mainly expect to ski and tube with it. And joy ride. I like to go fast... 150 acre Lake has 45mph speed limit and 190hp limit. We decided to go with a Lowe SS210 CL with a 150hp (comes with a mercury). I want to get the most bang for our buck. The pro xs is about $500 more and I've been researching whether to pay the extra or not. After watching this video, I'm leaning towards not. As a new boat owner, I still don't really understand the difference and what we would be getting for the extra $500... Based on your prop size comments, I'll be researching that next! Also whether 3 or 4 prop is better. So many decisions, but we want to try and get it right the first time!
@kdub998
@kdub998 3 жыл бұрын
Been saying this for years! I have a 16’ boat with a 90hp & have easily passed boats with 150hp on inshore waters
@mikemccormick6304
@mikemccormick6304 3 жыл бұрын
I have 250proxs V8. I love mine 620 ranger. I have 670hrs on it as of today.
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 3 жыл бұрын
That is good news! What year is it?
@mikemccormick6304
@mikemccormick6304 3 жыл бұрын
@@TeamMarineService 2019
@NytronX
@NytronX 3 жыл бұрын
Lol what. Do you live on your boat or...? That's a lot of hours. Do you speed troll with the main motor?
@jimmyh4239
@jimmyh4239 3 жыл бұрын
2021 Ranger Z518 with Mercury Pro Xs 200. Running a 22 p Fury and I love it!!!
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@michaelchanek8665
@michaelchanek8665 Жыл бұрын
Even Yamaha sho’s smoke at. Startup if trimmed all the way down and was shut down in full down trim. It is just physics, auto engines are oriented different with cylinders pointing up where oil can drain back down away from the cylinders instead of into them.
@okoutlaw33
@okoutlaw33 3 жыл бұрын
Great videos keep up great work.
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy!
@hydro_rebel7741
@hydro_rebel7741 Жыл бұрын
Haha I'll bet merc loves you 😂😂. Love this video 🤙🤙
@inthewoods5640
@inthewoods5640 3 жыл бұрын
Love the crickets sound, hahah
@cooperlively2705
@cooperlively2705 3 жыл бұрын
The smoke when u cut the motor on happens when u start it trimmed down. Its something about how the pistons are positioned in the motor. Have it trimmed up and it wont smoke. I have had the 225 4 stroke since it came out and its hauling a 21ft nitro tournament loaded at 71mph with a 23p prop.
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that you've got a good one...as far as the smoking issue the question we have is "should a new motor smoke upon start up period??" What if you bought a new truck and it only smoked when you were parked in your flat driveway but if you were parked on an incline it would all be good and Chevy/Ford/Dodge just said ooohhhh it's just the piston positioning! That answer doesn't sit well with us.
@cooperlively2705
@cooperlively2705 3 жыл бұрын
Team Marine Service i completely understand its not a good answer lol cuz it shouldnt be doing that but thats what a service tech told me when i asked them about it but i had never heard of any of the issues in the vid before so it was interesting to watch and im waiting for some answere myself especially why in the heck they are wanting to run a 19p prop lol
@EpicFishingMoments
@EpicFishingMoments 3 жыл бұрын
@@TeamMarineService The smoking issue has been widely discussed on BBCBoards as too much oil in the oil reservoir. If you fill it up to halfway between the marks the engine doesn't smoke.
@jasonwalden5001
@jasonwalden5001 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 225 pro 4 stroke on my 2020 triton 19 trx. Have had smoke on start a few times, not every time. It has a 24p tempest only hitting 5200 tried a 23p Much better. Better hole shot, better steering/ handling. Made 5400 but no loss in speed. Not sure how fast it should Run??I'm getting 70 mph
@Iriesushi
@Iriesushi Жыл бұрын
250R owner here. Have seen 91mph in my Allison Xb21/250R. Run a 30 Promax or Performance Prop BC 30. Max 5 was best handling, but cracked in 3 trips. Under warranty. Been a year. No prop yet. 250R is a beast on this boat though and I have no complaints granted, I do see smoke "blow by" that iimagine loads up on the valve seats after a long run and motor is tilted up. Just my observation. Just wish we could have access to the software to play with the fuel curve.
@garykinsey8266
@garykinsey8266 3 жыл бұрын
After owning 8-250 2-stroke ProXS motors in the last 13years before 2019 with near 0 problems I am out now.Other than the problems that ya'll mentioned Mercury says you can't use lithium starting batterys or no warranty,Mercury says no preformace up grades of any kind or no warranty.So I say no Mercury for me .IMO they have made the new motors way to complicated to withstand the abuse that bassboat owners give there motors almost all the time.I have been running the blue motors since 2018 and 0 problems so far.Hopefully Mercury will work out the kinks soon.And may be back.
@LuisMolina-tj3lh
@LuisMolina-tj3lh 3 жыл бұрын
I seen some of the train Boats we’re just 200 or 250 outboard engines with 26 pitch props and 10 or 12 inch hydraulic jack plate doing 80 mph. That’s what I’m talking about. I have an offshore Triton 2486 that I am thinking of putting 2200 V8 on hydraulic jack plate with super nice big props I’ll keep you posted
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely keep us posted Luis! Thanks buddy!
@bartgrider6895
@bartgrider6895 3 жыл бұрын
2019 250 Merc on 2019 20 Pro XP. 24P Fury 3 blade. 75 MPh, 6000 RPMS fully loaded with fuel, livewell and two 220 anglers. I did have smoke on start up but after first oil change. Never smoked before that. The dry engine holds 7 quarts. When changing the oil, only add 6 quarts. ! quart remains in engine. Manual says oil level should be on middle dipstick bead, not the top.
@michaelapple2753
@michaelapple2753 3 жыл бұрын
So what boat you got the 250XP on?
@coltonbriley8956
@coltonbriley8956 3 жыл бұрын
Man that’s messed up one quart remains in engine, what the heck is that 😂
@danielcornils
@danielcornils Жыл бұрын
Find out your wot loaded as usual. Find your wot range in your manual. Let’s say your spec WOT is 5400-6200 and your running at 6200 you can increase your pitch, get it closer to 5800ish (up 1 pitch equals roughly 200 less RPM). There’s lots more that goes into it but just some basic information.
@bigaproduxions117x6
@bigaproduxions117x6 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2018 Mercury pro xs 115hp. Been a great motor
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Glad to hear it. What ya running it on?
@bigaproduxions117x6
@bigaproduxions117x6 3 жыл бұрын
19ft bass tracker pro team
@grhodes3536
@grhodes3536 3 жыл бұрын
Have a new z521L w/300. The 23 is going 71 with a heavy load. I do want to try a 24 for comparison. I have seen smoke but it’s like 1 in 20 starts not sure what to do there?
@saltysteel3996
@saltysteel3996 2 жыл бұрын
Any known issues with the regular Mercury 150hp 4 stroke? Getting one soon. Lots of talk about how good it is. Also wondering if that smoke issue might be exhaust condensation? Could be steam. Happens with cars and trucks all the time in certain weather conditions like high humidity, cooler temperature weather. Just a thought. I'm an old 2 stroke guy so I'm used to having smoke all the time. Lol Never had a 4 stroke outboard, but I agree it shouldn't have any smoke from oil.
@cheetoz6902
@cheetoz6902 2 жыл бұрын
Not blue smoke
@stephaniepellerin5978
@stephaniepellerin5978 3 жыл бұрын
I bought my boat yesterday. Was running it of Sam Rayburn and stopped to fish in a cove for a bit. An hour later I wanted to move and when I tried to start it the prop was spinning as if it was in gear. (My boat was in Neutral.) because of this problem my boat wouldn’t start. We had to be towed in and my boat is going back to the dealership to be fixed Tuesday.
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 3 жыл бұрын
What motor is it? Pro XS 250?
@tommcnabb285
@tommcnabb285 2 жыл бұрын
Overall considering new technology these new mers are great. Yeah there's been a few issues. As yours sounds to be a shift actuator issue most likely. It's been a known problem but for the most part problem has been resolved. As for the smoke at start up... that problem is known as well and it's true problem comes from leaving engine trimmed completely tucked in at shut down and start up. Level or trimmed out slightly pretty much corrects the issue. I've been a merc tech for roughly 30 years now as well as other manufacturers. They all have issues out of the gate with new technology. Overall it's a great product and little kinks or problems will go away in time. As far as propping goes... crucial for dealers to water test these rigs upon completion. Propping correctly is key to new customers loving or left scratching their heads with the new mercs.... great product as far as I'm concerned and would definitely run one myself
@scottjaworskifishing1598
@scottjaworskifishing1598 Жыл бұрын
Hi Stephanie it's been a while. That sucks about that situation...what was the result? How's it been running? This week I'm dropping my boat off at Jasper Marine to be powered up with the new 250 Pro xs. I have a 2015 pro xs 250 2 stroke now. Seems fine, but I'm wanting better fuel economy with the 4 stroke. Any thoughts?
@simplymidwestfishing6461
@simplymidwestfishing6461 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 1997 mercury efi 175. This thing chews lower units up....quick. any ideas as to why? ( not hitting anything at all) had one lower unit lock up completely and another lower after 4 uses sounds like rocks in a blender. Any ideas?
@RyanSmith-db4ze
@RyanSmith-db4ze 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have any input on the v6 175 pro xs 4 stroke? Work at a dealer down here in GA. We’ve seen the ssme issues you have on the bigger ones, but we haven’t sold many 175’s. Curious if you see as many issues on them as you do on 200+.
@Thefirsts
@Thefirsts 3 жыл бұрын
I live in the Twin Cities. I was on the verge of getting my boat repowered to the 200hp pro xs. Now I have doubts.
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 3 жыл бұрын
They certainly have some issues they need to figure out!
@evinrudeboy6601
@evinrudeboy6601 2 жыл бұрын
Had a customer with a 21' ranger, Honda 225 and he was so damn happy to get 52mph out of it. I went out with him, verified the speed and sure as shit... Dude was happy but wouldn't do a different propeller. So much had to be left on the table...
@rharan1
@rharan1 6 ай бұрын
At what RPM’s? That motor peaks at6,300 rpms
@jacoblewis3353
@jacoblewis3353 3 жыл бұрын
slight smoke on start-up of a pro xs is a known issue with merc. evidently it is from starting the motor with it tucked all the way in... this causes oil to leak up through the rings (bad design in my opinion) mercury's "fix" is to trim the motor up slightly beyond vertical before firing it off.
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 3 жыл бұрын
We agree with ya Jacob, it's starting to sound like an excuse to cover up a bad design or flaw. We sure hope that isn't the case....time will tell!
@kman8918
@kman8918 3 жыл бұрын
I have never had my 200 pro xs smoke on start up, but I also take my boat in and out of the water every time. My motor is always trimmed up to load, and I don't trim all the way down to start after launching. Maybe this is why I have never seen the smoke?
@gregsmith3623
@gregsmith3623 2 жыл бұрын
@@TeamMarineService do they still have Reed valves?
@charlesalexander2739
@charlesalexander2739 2 жыл бұрын
I'm getting ready to purchase a bass cat caracal. It has a max horse power rating of 225. My question is, does the 225 have any/more issues than a 250.
@02jeepwj
@02jeepwj 3 жыл бұрын
Good thing all my lakes are small 9.9 lakes or the most you need is like a 50 on the United restricted lakes
@dougrahder3208
@dougrahder3208 3 жыл бұрын
2019 2080 angler with 250 pro xs and just got back from the dealer and he says everything is fine 6000 rpm 53 mph 3 large people in boat with a 19 rev 4 prop. Just wondering if this is what I have or is there something I can do to increase the RPM ( ecm reprogram or something that someone else has done ). Thanks for the video.
@MrRGiller
@MrRGiller 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Roy!
@Tyfixisall
@Tyfixisall 3 жыл бұрын
I have an 18 year old 3.0 225 EFI with 15xx hours on it pushing a 210 Procraft running low to mid 70's with a worked 26 tempest plus. Thats loaded speeds with 1/2 +/- tank of fuel. I would hope to gain at least 5mph going to a $20k 250 four stroke.
@toddspindler6190
@toddspindler6190 2 жыл бұрын
Their definitely not any faster than the 2 stroke.. My 2021 250 Mercury V-8 buns more fuel than my 2017 250 V-6 Mercury as well.. 2 extra cylinders I’m guessing… I re powered my Phoenix 920 with the V-8 and it’s been nothing bout problems since day one.. I fish full time 300 days a year guiding and fishing the tour.. My new motors 1 year old and has over 400 hours on it and I literally can’t count how many times I’ve missed days on the water or tournament’s (losing entree money) because of this motor… Worst mistake I’ve ever made buying this piece of sh*t.. Payed cash too 🥴… Should’ve bought a SHO
@jasonriede6056
@jasonriede6056 3 жыл бұрын
Just got a brand new 2021 z518 with a Merc 200 with a 22 fury I got 67 mph at 58 to 5900 RPMs that's with a 8-in Jack plate that was down no hot foot it's my first bass boat so raising the hydraulic Jack plate and this will gain RPMs? And how much water pressure should I have that was with just me full tank of gas 10 fishing poles and three Plano boxes temperature outside was 97°, and the water temperature was 83
@flipper2473
@flipper2473 11 ай бұрын
Hello, I have a 2023 200 HP, have you ever heard a tic, tic, tic sound after releasing the trim button. So far , I only hear it when the motor is off and trimmed down normal running position, and lower it a bit more, tic, tic ,tic?
@crankintanks2092
@crankintanks2092 3 жыл бұрын
Great video I wish you was in West Virginia I’d bring my boat to you get it set up
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 3 жыл бұрын
It looks to be about 863 miles from the middle of West Virginia to LaCrosse, WI....ain't nothing but a little time and gasoline! Haha
@crankintanks2092
@crankintanks2092 3 жыл бұрын
@@TeamMarineService lmao
@chrisduc1
@chrisduc1 3 жыл бұрын
Hi , what a nice video.!!hope you will get 10.000 subscribers soon. 😎✊🏾✊🏾 need your advice !!!! Having a Brig 645 with Evinrude 150 : love the 2 stroke engine , but now I will buy a Zodiac Medline 7,5 with the 300 Pro Xs V8 , what prop do you recommend ?? 4 blade , but what pitch ??? I prefer more the strong acceleration than high top speed. Thanks for an answer .
@brandondouglass8287
@brandondouglass8287 3 жыл бұрын
Man I wish you were in Texas. Like your straight forward thoughts.
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy!
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 3 жыл бұрын
Comment below on your experiences. Have you had any issues? Has your Merc been flawless? Let us know!
@pain_weaver
@pain_weaver 3 жыл бұрын
You could always send me a brand new one.... Except in 40 horse 😁😀😂
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 3 жыл бұрын
@The Original Handyman Yes that definitely could be!
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 3 жыл бұрын
@@pain_weaver Hahaha
@tjcrowe89
@tjcrowe89 3 жыл бұрын
I can feel what I can only explain as exhaust coming out from around the tell tail stream.
@darrenkeen335
@darrenkeen335 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 75 HP Mercury 2020 model that won’t exceed 5200 RPM. Dealer just keeps telling me that is in the normal range. Boat won’t even go over 40 which even trackers website says it will.
@user-pf9yx5dl6k
@user-pf9yx5dl6k Жыл бұрын
If it’s a bass boat you can get a larger pitch prop to go 60mph. It’s different for a Angler or 600 series boats.
@ermannodangelo1062
@ermannodangelo1062 3 жыл бұрын
First time here, great videos! Not a ProXS but I have a 2005 225EFI that smokes a lot on first start up, I’m talking like a cloud. Always has, is there anything to do or adjust, everyone says it’s normal on those motors.
@robbrown7464
@robbrown7464 Жыл бұрын
gas/oil ratio is off
@ermannodangelo1062
@ermannodangelo1062 Жыл бұрын
@@robbrown7464 Is the ratio something that can be adjusted?
@davessparetime83
@davessparetime83 Жыл бұрын
It all depends on the lower unit final gear ratio. That set these motors up to use the most efficient Prop which it around 17"-21". Everybody should prop out their boat. Motor height, A cupped prop or surface prop can be ruin higher.
@baileyt2132
@baileyt2132 3 жыл бұрын
is a 19" ok on the 115 pro xs ? or should i try a 21" or above ?
@Drog2730
@Drog2730 3 жыл бұрын
I got a 2015 pro xs 175 and it started idling terrible and hard starting but rips when u giver normally did plugs fuel filters any ideas or help for the kid!!! Please and thanks
@cmoutdoors7576
@cmoutdoors7576 3 жыл бұрын
The smoking issue can be caused by not trimming all the way down when you stop and start up
@laurav1088
@laurav1088 2 жыл бұрын
I got a Yamaha 150 pro V on my 18 ft skeeter it takes forever to get out of the hole but my top in is great 63 miles an hour at 5100 RPM and I have a 25 pitch prop on it should I go down a size prop get out of the hole? With out sacrificing too much speed?
@cbtsar1
@cbtsar1 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, I’m running a 1988 Mercury 175 XR , your smoke comments make me giggle, ever had to wait til the smoke cleared before pulling off the dock or you couldn’t see? Yup, that’s me.
@Hawk-iy2iz
@Hawk-iy2iz 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@BBVDZX14
@BBVDZX14 Жыл бұрын
Andy... SMOKING UPON STARTUP.... I know it's 2 years later, but.... Page 61 in the owners manual covers it ('21 225hp Pro XS)... States "With the engine turned off, tilt the outboard up to a point where the trailing edge of the anit-ventilation plate is higher than the leading edge. The tilt angle will help to eliminate or reduce engine smoke on start up. Tilting the outboard up, allows oil in the cylinders to run down cylinders and return to the oil sump. With the outboard level or tilted in, oil from the cylinder walls can run down to the bottom of the cylinder and form a puddle behind the piston/rings. The oil can then weep into the combustion chamber causing it to smoke upon startup... yada yada yada
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService Жыл бұрын
We understand what is at play here for sure....however, let the junior engineers go play ping pong or foosball and let the real engineers create and design an outboard that doesn't have to dedicate a full page of their owners manual to cover up a design flaw. It shouldn't do that
@timshull59
@timshull59 2 жыл бұрын
Looking at a 22ft pontoon Sun Tracker that comes with a Merc150. Decent motor? and could you do some skiing behind that?
@rickrobinson5611
@rickrobinson5611 3 жыл бұрын
Great shows
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rick!
@kaylewilson7681
@kaylewilson7681 3 жыл бұрын
Just picked up my 2021 v19 tracker with a 200 pro sx I can get it to pull 5,500-5,800 all day my only complaint is I feel the motor is not in the water enough. At max speed 50 I can tap the trim tab 2-3 times and that’s all any thing more and she’s sucking air. I do not feel I can get the boat out of the water enough honestly unless it’s wfo every thing is how it can from the factory. Should I have my prop looked at is that not enough speed 🤷‍♂️ honest question
@chadgeisinger7423
@chadgeisinger7423 3 жыл бұрын
Have you had many issues with the 200 3.4L V6?
@michaelbradshaw7420
@michaelbradshaw7420 3 жыл бұрын
I run a 19 on a tin boat, with 2020 pro xs....but its a 115 it turns spins it At 5500 rpms...but i think i need to jck the motor up on the jp...i.get about 45 47 mph in lowe 195 stinger
@johnsanner5299
@johnsanner5299 3 жыл бұрын
Smoke problem has been linked to motor having a little to much oil in it.
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 3 жыл бұрын
You're correct, that has been one of the contributing factors!
@jasonriede6056
@jasonriede6056 3 жыл бұрын
Update on the ranger z518 2021 200 pro xs 6100 RPMs 70.5 22 pitch fury 3 hours on the new motor haven't raised Jack plate yet
@markthompson609
@markthompson609 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you've found the sweet spot mate
@jasonriede6056
@jasonriede6056 3 жыл бұрын
@Taariq Taylor what kind of RPMs were you running and do you have a hydraulic jack plate
@bigbeef8935
@bigbeef8935 3 жыл бұрын
just bought a new vexus AVX2080. should I be concerned? Mercury 250
@adambolling1697
@adambolling1697 3 жыл бұрын
I have a brand new Pro XS 250. Mine smoked and they said it was idling too high. I had to take it back because I was getting six beeps and knocking me off of plane. They could not figure it out, but they some how fixed it without telling me what the problem was. I am running a 24 pitch on a 2005 Triton 21x.
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 3 жыл бұрын
Wow that's super weird that they fixed it and wouldn't tell you what the problem was!!!
@johnross6314
@johnross6314 3 жыл бұрын
Adam Bolling overfilled the crankcase with would be my suggestion. Report this dealer to Mercury. Make sure dealer does not erase any forensic data on the logs.
@spencerestilette9103
@spencerestilette9103 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man I bought a 2018 vexus avx189 with a 115 pro xs command thrust. Its been flawless for the first 100 hrs. Just wanted to know your thoughts on that 115 / command thrust deal..... love this channel
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome Spencer, are ya liking your new rig? The 115 Pro XS has been solid from what we have seen!
@spencerestilette9103
@spencerestilette9103 3 жыл бұрын
I've had two years in it and I'd say im satisfied. Huge deck is good. Pad hull design is damn good. Only aluminum bass boat I've driven that you can actually trim up and get the boat on the pad. Engine has out done my expectations. Didn't expect it to have that much low end torque out of the hole and it hauls ass. If I did it again I would go for the Triton 179TRX with 115 proxs c/t just because the Paint never holds up on aluminum boats including vexus's "" hard case paint"". They said it would not chip, well south Louisiana begged to differ lol. Love yalls honesty on everything.
@Rusty-Brown_
@Rusty-Brown_ 3 жыл бұрын
WHAT DO U THINK ABOUT THE MERCS AND EVENRUDES OF THE 70 S AND 80 S ??
@ZethKinnettFishing
@ZethKinnettFishing 2 жыл бұрын
Mine I’ll run 68 -70 with the 200 and 23 fury and then 15 minutes later it’ll do exactly what you are saying for the rest of the day and then open back up randomly. Constant struggle. Drives me nuts.
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 2 жыл бұрын
It just shouldn't be that way and Mercury has got to start helping you guys remedy this.
@ZethKinnettFishing
@ZethKinnettFishing 2 жыл бұрын
@@TeamMarineService nothing like fishing a tournament with a long run and you are all hyped up at blast off and then there goes a ranger passing a BassCat, then a Nitro, then a who knows what pos with a 135 blasts past you and your co is looking at you like WTF as you putz down the river trying to intentionally hit as many passing boats wakes as possible to break the suction and get another 1-2 mph for 20 seconds.
@andrewscrutton
@andrewscrutton 3 жыл бұрын
Hey brother, Im looking at a Princecraft Ventura 224 with a 150 Pro XS on it, are these issues something to be concerned about on that motor?
@asianboi08
@asianboi08 3 жыл бұрын
My Honda bf150 on my ranger has been good. Slower but reliable and barely drinks gas.
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 3 жыл бұрын
Honda's are great!
@steverosander6394
@steverosander6394 Жыл бұрын
I'm that 19 pitch prop guy. Have a new lund crossover with a 175 pro xs. Can barley get over 5000 rpm. Guessing in need a different prop and some sort of settings work on the engine?
@diesel_delph9764
@diesel_delph9764 3 жыл бұрын
Are the 225s any better?
@supersteve8305
@supersteve8305 3 жыл бұрын
Has the Mercury 150 or the Mercury 90 command thrust had any issues you are aware of? Thank you for the information you provide us.
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 3 жыл бұрын
Those are both solid!
@supersteve8305
@supersteve8305 3 жыл бұрын
@@TeamMarineService thank you. Looking at both right now. I appreciate your response.
@coltonbriley8956
@coltonbriley8956 3 жыл бұрын
So I’m looking at a new tracker targa 18’ 150 and 200hp options. Forum on FB I asked people to talk about their top speed. Only a 4 or 5 mph difference between the 150 and 200 pro xs. Kinda figured 200 just had better acceleration and used for towing skiers. I think this is an example of a dumb prop. I asked what it came with he sent me a picture of the prop says mercury 17P I assume that means 17 pitch? But maybe not, He also sent me a picture of the lower unit where there is a sticker that says 1.75:1 I imagine gear ration and then 12x21. His is a 19’ says it will do 52 mph biggest Motor offered for that bigger boat is 225.
@patriotoutdoors5307
@patriotoutdoors5307 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, bro...thanks for the frank information! I, myself, am having the same problem now for the second time...my 2021 Mercury 225 Pro XS will not shift out of neutral...first time (2 weeks ago) it took the dealership 8.5 hours of labor and collaboration with Mercury to determine that a pin connector harness (somewhere) was pulled out...well, it happened yesterday again after the dealership (Cabela’s) installed a new transducer...problem is I drove 2.5 hours one way to Lake Cumberland yesterday here in Kentucky only to realize it happened again!! FML! I will be demanding it be fixed and fixed once and for all...AND that I get a video/photos of the actual problem so I know what to do if it happens while I am out in the water!
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 3 жыл бұрын
Wow we certainly hope you get taken care of!!! Good luck and let us know the final outcome!
@jakegardner130
@jakegardner130 3 жыл бұрын
They had a recall on that.
@kamerondilks2962
@kamerondilks2962 3 жыл бұрын
The only time I've had fire up smoke has been when you leave it trimmed all the way down when you fish, The dealer said trim them up to level or higher when sitting because "when trimmed fully down the oil can leak past seals into cylinder heads hence the smoke"
@TeamMarineService
@TeamMarineService 3 жыл бұрын
WOW! Just WOW! That should NOT happen!!! Thanks for commenting Kameron! 👍🏻
@danieljohnson8745
@danieljohnson8745 3 жыл бұрын
I was gonna say the same thing I have a a 200 on a basscat I’ve been hitting 70mph conditions permitting.
@ised8uwell
@ised8uwell 3 жыл бұрын
My DF175 did the same thing during break in. Didn't do it once broken in tho
@toddspindler6190
@toddspindler6190 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a 2021 250 proxs that has 300 hours on it in 11 months.. Smokes like hell on start up and run different top end speeds day to day 10 mph differences… I pay cash for this motor and I’ll admit I fck Ed up too 🥴
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