3 months top before its dead

You must get a kick out of bashing game developers... have you ever touched a line of code in your life? If you have, maybe you'd have some human decency for someone's mistake. Toxic community is the reason games fail.. by all means add to it if that's your desire.

@@miguelalcorta3558 The actual developers of the game aren't the problem, it's the people in the upper echelons of authority who OK'd this garbage is what has people fuming.

@@kennethbowers2897 True, very true. But a trailer should be the last thing that makes a game good.. the game is great and I could care less about a trailer. Hell, the best movies I've ever seen in my life weren't because the trailer was good...

@@masons9090 is that really what you want? A game to die because of a bad update and a bad trailer?

This is why I (mostly) have faith in indies.

Still frustrated to the payday 2 update

@@HinokasArabfan1 Wasn't HLL an indie game? And still is?

​​@@SilverTheBullet bought by a big name company. No longer indie. FFS they have a console port. Name an indie game that has a console port. Without being greedy like shit.

That's been the entire point of monetized gaming. They're basically bringing back coin operated tactics, but instead of paying for lives your paying for fun

At this point I dont even get how they are even making money though

This just seems like team17 was overconfident and then showed a complete lack of competence, because I had been thinking about buying HLL but now I definitely won't when team17 have fucked it up this bad. Surely I aint the only one? They must be losing money from this

​@TB 2018 if they can appeal to the casual gaming community that's where the all the money is. Most gamers in the world buy the same game every year.

The game plays fine and for 2023, if you don't like, don't play it. If you are gonna bash it, by all means take your toxic community badge and wear it on your sleeve..

Assassins Creed being one of them.

Does your game crash? Do you play on PC

Why exactly ?

It's just so typical for the gaming industry nowadays. Investor's are buying great products, and then they're trying to make it more accessible while ruining it in the progress. They're not in the game because they love it. They see these products just as an opportunity to make money. They know that every arcade shooter needs a fast-paced mode, sliding mechanics, and unreal sprinting speeds. But what they don't get is that WWII games make shitty arcade shooters. They will milk the cow as long they can, and the game will land on the garbage pay to win pile. It's just sad as f.

@@Vaporisers mine crashes on PC all the time.

I agree.

What is making the game feel more like an arcade or fast pased action game ?

@@Vaporisers the running speed

Can't play squad. I'm on console 😢

@@snowsdsnowsd7436 same

I still hop on Foxhole for this reason, lotsa people at least want to play Logi. But I am tempted to get on the Squad train myself!

a company's goal is to make profit. They did that, they were very successful. I get it, you look at it from a player's pov, but that's not how you're supposed to look at companies to see their pov. If you had pulled this off and were able to sell the company for 47 million GBP, you'd do so too.

Well they got acquired by T17 so it’s not black matter doing this Edit: should have been more specific, T17 acquired the IP for the game

@@TheBanjoShowOfficial That makes no sense. T17 cant just barge in and buy a company, someone first needs to willing to sell it and that someone is the owners of the Black Matter company.

It’s pathetic. It’s been out for years on ps5 now and there STILL isn’t a server browser

@@whatever7338 They didn't sell the company, they sold them the IP (the game). They did this after they'd finished development on it and gotten it to full release. You can shit on them if you want, but I don't blame them. They finished the game, it was successful and they accomplished what they set out to build. With the "heavy lifting" done in terms of work on the game, they believed Team 17 could handle updates and content releases going forward giving them the ability to move their focus to the other projects they have in development.

Seriously, I miss Post Scriptum and still think it was better than HLL.

@pulse3732 so much better the gunplay is worlds ahead HLL.

nah im banned from the biggest servers so if that happens i would be watching others have fun and i hate that

The only reason im not playing PS is because of the low playercount

@Jonny-yh5oq sounds like your fault. Have over 1k hours in PS and never been banned

Looks like Team17 is not happy with your video ;-)

Was it a manual takedown by T17? Or yet another abuse of user reports? If it's the former I guess you're better off not saying 😅

Team 17 went from being a niche and cutesy dev and publisher to the same toxic scum that's damaging the game's industry.

@@epmcgee Yep! Sadly, that's what happened to the most indie devs that "got big".

Deployed? You must be like that German farmer who plays farm sim after work.

They literally added 2 more features and a new faction/map HOW is it worse. The gaming community is never satisfied yall will bitch moan and cry about everything !! They change it yall cry they go back yall cry im not sure any game community can be satisfied from cod to assassins creed yo total war. Gamers hate change

@@jamesschaller753 game optimization is still piss poor (remember they decided to go out of EA, so no excuses). Brits came out and their weapons are historically inaccurate AF something the previous team took great pride in not messing up. The glitch that prevents you from switching loadouts and only lets you spawn in with the default loadouts for classes is STILL in the game. You have to do a full restart to even get it to stop bugging. The game has declared it isn't in EA though, you need to reality check yourself with the copium you're huffing. Adding content, doesn't mean anything of value if actual issues are not being addressed. Nobody gives a shit about new content when things remain broken. Coming back from an 8-month deployment to still deal with issues from 8-months ago is insane.

@@dylanmorgan2752 I mean soldiers/marines don't see any fighting these days so im not surprise they play war games instead lol

post scriptum had so much potential too

@@misdy5160 it still does, OWI is making SQUAD better and I can see them picking it up if HLL keeps taking a hit from this

The last update they did was so buggy they broke all French maps, yes all of them, only community patch fixes it, and made 75mm Shermans randomly invisible

Post Scriptum died due to game design choices, the bugs were just an added insult.

Squad is dying due to new people not playing Cooperatively and seeing it as battlefield.

Just when i thought bsg were the worst devs, NOPE

​@@SpaceRanger187 that's really dramatic to say. Every game has a life cycle. League of Legends was all people would talk about 10 years ago. Now it's Roblox or something. But this game was kneecapped from the start. Anyone who doesn't play this game in high graphics detail at high res gets to see how janky and cut and pasted so many game mechanics are. I refunded this game while Post Scriptum was still alive. I have about 400 hours in HLL and would still recommend d the game for $20. But they are adding factions before adding basic things like realistic sounds and ballistics. Seriously this games ballistics are horrendous. After a set point, the game code just applies a damage debuff instead of dynamically calculating it based on... a ray. Just like BSG got caught up adding to the feel of the game. I'm sure Tarkov feels great to play when youre with a bunch of people who are not using cheats or cheese strats. The game grew since 2016. If you want a truly disappointing developer: Wargaming Studios. $80 for a single ship, people have spent thousands of dollars collecting on a game where their purchases get devalued by powercreep. BSG charges you one time. I bought EoD in like 2017 or 2018 and played til 2021. The best game on the market right now for milsim light is Squad. This is an arcade fps that tries so hard to be brutal and realistic but it ends up just being janky. The recon arty duels are a minigame. Having your main menu key be a primary function . Redeploy should be used by every player almost every match in HLL but they don't tell you. And they make the interface non-interactable for 20 seconds. Your truck going 2kph touches its canvas siding to someone? They drop like it's a 10kV transformer arcing right to the heart. Hammers are like the human appendix. No real purpose other than some classes can left click on an unbuilt structure. In reality no one really plays HLL like the devs want because it isnt fun building nodes on sector lines or playing 4 corners with garrison placement. In 2016 post scriptum was figuring out why certain maps are bad. If HLL can figure out how to make a map that isn't designed like it's 2003, we can have nice things. The graphics is just surface level and it is what fooled so many people into thinking HLL was more than it is. Imo appreciate it and know they'll either fix it or a better game will be launched. This is a huge market to try to capture. Sad that they added so many great things but never polished a single one of them fully. The issues that made me refund this game in less than 2 hours was a time when I was fed up with the Post Scriptum community being left to the most intense players. Not fun. A game like Steel Division 2 finds ways to make the complexity fun and interesting for Rts without the fuss. Its graphics are about as good as CoH3 and its a divisional command game. More fun than HLL even if it isn't first person

Get post scriptum and help it become alive again

@@kamilm6616 It could come back but I don't think the game is ready for an influx of players. In 2018 PS had that awesome armor game mode that was amazing. The collision with objects in that game and Squad make me think they need a PS 2.0 . Add map destructability and more assets to the buildings and PS would be king of the market. It's a fantastic game and most of the issues with HLL were things PS went through in playtest weekends. That was like 2017ish? Things like MSPs, huge flat maps. The reason a WWII rifle can't 1 shot at 300m in HLL is simply a function of the game being too easy to be shot at because there is no real terrain cover. It's time to revive Post Scriptum. This time without as many bugs and stutters at the beginning. When they launched the game fully it was arguably a meaningless gesture and price change to PS, but it dramatically changes player expectations of the game. That is what killed post scriptum slowly. It runs great now and they've made huge strides in sectoring the map correctly. I still disagree with the logistics system. They make it easy in Squad. Post Scriptum was just a little bit too early to the market and needed to save their marketing campaign for a time like now. It's tough to run a company that makes and continues to develop a great product. Most of the time they get caught trying to maintain their current operations and staff. Costs are constant but sales can dip. It's a tough industry and I suspect it's the real reason HLL is the way it is.

It’s not dead yet

Coming here from actually playing the ICO on Squad, that shit is absolute fire and reminds me of the OG Project Reality that I played when it was a Battlefield 2 mod, which I assume was OWI's intended design for the game, but they messed up along the way, and finally realized this.

More like 2 minutes

What I don't get is that you could write a script, get 10 or 20 of you in a server, turn the HUD off and just run the scenario and get the footage you need... bosh into a video editor, within 12 -18 hours you could easily knock up a perfectly acceptable in-game footage trailer

This was done in 4 hrs or less using a GPT tool and some random audio clips scoured from web searches. I hope they resigned after they submitted it!

Im willing to bet team 17 took black matters unfinished trailer and decided to push it out anyway

​@@dermetzgermeiser They used Ai for the voices just lazy

And it works. Im switched after 2500 Hours over to Squad.

@@marcusmuller4723 I recently reinstalled both, and planned to play some HLL first, but then that trailer dropped and I had a "Do I really wanna?" moment lol

I love that Squad specifically mentioned they are reducing run speed in that update as well, right after HLL increased it. Obvious where these two games are going.

​@@alkarinv1192 Because one of the games has good map design. Black Coast is a great example of a new Squad map. It is so far beyond anything in HLL in terms of how well thought out the building and cover placement is. Terrain. Even the worst Squad map is better than the best HLL map from a "how advanced and polished is this game's design vision?" HLL should reduce the black screen timer or make people able to mark things. Flares in a WW2 game have look-down radar and IFF . If a commander can do that why can't a squad mate mark a tank. The SL just ferries around a watch and builds spawn points. It isn't like being a squad SL. Increasing the run speed in HLL will just make the maps feel smaller but cover points and garrison placement will never change. They need a redesign of core game mechanics. And why is the MG34 so bad? In real life I can tell you firsthand it has a very accurate ranging trigger group. It can fire single shots. Many weapons in HLL have ironsights. Why can't we adjust for elevation or "zero" our sights? Because the ballistics are completely unrealistic and so is the distance scaling. Play Post Scriptum and look at those maps. The buildings don't have tablecloths but you can actually do CQC that isn't just the same thing every time every map every point. It's a great fun game but it's impossible to take seriously. As soon as the player learns the mechanics it becomes a very repetitive "guys, can just respawn to get more ammo." Maybe a node should just be an AoE ammo crate from Squad and the commander's resources don't have to be built on sector gridlines. Vehicles are lava to friendlies if speed !=0 . The animation is just a t-pose. More of an up arrow pose but it's dumb lol. Why is that not fixed? 30 seconds into a match SETUP someone can touch a moving truck and start the game with a black screen and then it punishes the driver for usually no reason. The game in its June 2023 state is not worth full price but probably will be soon. Just honestly, there isnt a competitor. As soon as that happens there will be a lot of people echoing all these criticisms. The game is so simple when you boil it down yet the devs want players to go through all this hassle because it's the experience. If this game didn't have levels, unlocks, a cool stats page and whatnot, it would have less than half its average player count. Just guessing but I think that's what pulls people back. They want to get level 100 or 200 or 500 or whatever arbitrary number next to their name. If we truly are just faceless soldiers in a battle, it just feels tacked on. I'm rambling but you see my point. To your point, Squad all the way. Since 2016 and I've watched them fix and add content consistently. They realized it was getting a little too lax on the ticket 🎟 side. Fewer people are talking as its mostly the older players who want to talk on these games. It's nice because I gamed as a kid and wanted to play the same games as adults. They're usually smart and good at following directions, but in Squad I think you have a different game entirely because of the tickets. So people are used to just giving up as soon as they're downed, letting a 10 ticket APC get slapped by infantry AT. That's a Squad wipe right there even if it's empty. So reducing movement speed will get people playing the maps more like a salient. Which is exactly what Hll tried and failed to do. The whole Frontline system of HLL doesn't work in practice.

War thunder devs also released a road map of changed and a plan to make the game less frustrating today. I guess He'll Let loose is taking this L full steam ahead.

I started (unknowingly) around the same time of the first T17 update, the bolt-action bug pissed me off to no end, to the point of me taking a break, despite having fun with the community, you guys are great; but I came back today to a unplayable mess of no working voice chat, unplayable stuttering issues, and poor connectivity. I feel so for the veterans of this game and wish I could have experienced those golden days with ya.

Squad unreal engine error startup crash is going to kill that game. It isn't working for so many players and the support teams aren't helping. It has been over 6 months since it last worked for me. I have un-installed and reinstalled 3 times with no solution. Support responses are usually 3-4 weeks later with no solution other than an apology.

@@nabihlakkis562 have you gone into the steam setting dashboard and verified game files? It is usually fixed it for me

@@chasebeecher5633 I did that multiple times. I un-installed the game completely and reinstalled it 3 times. I verified the files multiple time with every reinstall.

nah Squad becoming more like PR is a win

I just feel like we were all excited for Squad, PS and HLL because they were all suppose to be PR with technological advancements. I bought squad during beta 10years ago at $15 before I even had a computer that could run it because of how much I believed I what they were doing. 2 years later I get my gaming PC and it started on the right path then lost its way. I literally just downloaded it again two days ago and it looks completely different. I’m excited to get back to it.

I'm uninstalling HLL atm and can't wait for the new updates for squad to hit. Also welcome to squad bro, hope you have a blast.

Yeah I really tried to like HLL, but when you got games like squad around, impossible.

And the queue system is soooooooo much better.

welcome to squad

Squad is another shitstorm. Game worked perfectly for a while and stopped working after an update about 6 months + ago. Unreal engine error crash at startup seem to be unsolvable by the support team. I have reinstalled and uninstalled the game 3 times, updated all drivers, cleaned installed gpu drivers, opened a portal into another dimension and nothing seems to resolve the issue. Don't even get me started on the support, a snail will revolve the earth 10 times while crawling on salt before support responds, and guess what, all they do is apologize. I finally gave-up last night and uninstalled it for good.

PS has been completely abandoned, no new updates or nothing coming out for it

@@robbiem1961 if player numbers start increasing you can bet the devs will take notice. Money makes the world go around.

" theres no hope for shooters anymore" - one good game will perish - another one would be created by indie developers. It's just a way of life ;-)

They’re not. I don’t understand how some people even think that. I assume because of the speed update? The speed update was much needed, and actually way more realistic. The tanks are what isn’t realistic when it comes to speed, they ran like 50 mph. If you were in combat in ww2 you’d run around the speed you run now, than you use too.

@@Vaporisers Yea you don't know what the fuck you are talking about but that's ok because everyone defending the sprint update doesn't know shit. Regardless of your made up numbers and your just so stories about how people ran around in a war that happened 80 years ago the entire game was balanced around that speed. Spawning was balanced around that speed the distances between points, etc. The strategic ebb and flow of the game is suffering. Have you played the new maps? The british get run down so quickly it's not even worth playing. This game is a rusher paradise now. You can't hold perimeters and chokepoints like you could in the past this game is fucked now.

​@@Vaporisers Many people (me included) thought the speed increase was nice until you start seeing the problems with the balancing around the speed. The heavy tanks` (Like the 76 Sherman) max speed is around 11 mp/h in game which is reasonable (in real life they could go 29 mp/h so almost 3 times faster than in game) while the average run speed of an infantry soldier in real life is 4 mp/h in full modern gear so lets say even 7-8 mp/h (i can even give you 10 mp/h for the sake of the arguement) with WW2 equipment? so out running a tank while youre crouching is very unrealistic (which is what you can do now with the speed increased) and it completely destroys the balancing between Infantry and Armor (and thats without mentioning the COD like zig zagging that you can do now). And i remind you thats just the HEAVY TANKS, the lighter ones are WAY FASTER, as the should be.

@@mike8386 yeah me and my buds can’t believe how slow the vehicles go. But we all agree the running speed was much needed and more accurate

Is squad on ps5?

They'll add rainbow camouflage and stupid emotes next 🙄

@@BloodyKnives66 that’s what I’m afraid of 🤣

@@Rangertozero Consoles & realistic tactical shooters don't mix in the slightest lol.

​@@BloodyKnives66 Tencent isn't stupid...

HLL has the worst maps and fights in gaming. It's basically Call of Duty on a larger scale map. The game has zero team communication and zero Logistical gameplay. There was a better WW2 game, Post Scriptum but the casual playerbase just loves faster respawns and not relying on Medics.

the two new maps were literally unplayable

oh no not "offended" what could be worse

yea hell let loose heroes and generals man ww2 games just vanish infornt of our eyes

Why not just rolling back to update 11 or 13.0 ????

yeah, screw them and make your own game.. with blackjack...and hookers...

@@FNHR711 Git yer simple, easy, and sane ideas da fug outta here! - Team 17, maybe

You'll be fine, it's really not that important, you're a resilient adaptable being. Chin up lad!!!

They need to bring it to console

@@tenacious645 they fired all devs so good luck with that lmao

@@warlordwossman5722 wtf why did that happen?

@@semaanar2505 I think their funds ran dry and it probably looked like they had no chance against HLL at the end of last year. Imo post scriptum had better gunplay and maps but it was also more mil-sim than HLL - so player numbers were down as people favor more arcade games usually.

@@warlordwossman5722 yes too much of a simulator is NOT fun for a long time, hell let loose is sometimes even too much

Never played PS, but I may move there after these recent blunders by T17.

Too be fair, all the HLL playerbase in uneducated since 2021 even on PC.

battlefield becoming what it is also one of the saddest stories in gaming in recent years

​@@Nate-mq4rhikr

Yes. Restore to how it was.

@@Nate-mq4rh mate that started with Bad Company 2

@@Ado555555nah. Id say bf4 is peek bf atm. Still feels and looks kinda modern while not being ruined by the modern stuff such as microtransations, p2w, extreme bugs (yeah i know how the start was). The bf games before bf4 aged quite poorly id say.

The running speed needed a little boost as it was too slow to even make it across small gaps in hedges without being killed. These were fit young men who weren't burdened with plate carriers etc that modern soldiers have to carry so why should they move so slow? BUT I do feel that the running speed is too fast now as you can run at about 20mph whilst crouched which is complete nonsense.

@@TheStacato Intermittend bursts of stamina sure. But not COD level endurance. And these men they sent in ww2 are not modern day 24/7 trained grunts. They are drafted men. Just regular people. It would be more realistic to have some of them run faster and some slow as fuck.

@@braincell4536, being drafted doesn't mean being an out of shape slob that takes 10 seconds to dash across a 5 foot gap in the hedgerow

Can't or won't? It really feels that large game companies dont give a rats ass about their playerbase on purpose

@@9a912 you are absolutely right

You should look into Operation Harsh Doorstop. It’s a free tactical shooter being made by an indie studio.

@@csm5040 no it is not being made by an indie studio, bluedrake jsut pushed out a shitty game with mod support expecting the community to actually make the game for him while he profits off donations on the same free game. he didnt even release the game with anti cheat, your lucky if there is 200 people playing it right now, thats because it is shit lol.

@@Kalashboy420 well, its basically free to play Squad :) i tried it, nothing special but not that bad, just another Squad like game but i would go for Squad even tho OHDS is free.

I was happy when I heard they would be adding Poles and Finns and thought I might get the game once that happens if they do it right, I already had some skepticism, but now I know not to have high expectations at all. I wish Post Scriptum still had devs or at least modders making new factions. There was an interesting Greek mod being made that was cancelled after the devs were fired. I hope it can regain the playerbase if people leave HLL and maybe modders or even a new dev team will pick it up again. It does have a much superior gameplay and historical accuracy.

Nah I’ll be honest the game is genuinely fun

What a reactionary comment. Fans are concerned about the future, because it is still such a good game. There are some changes that are not really liked, but the game is very playable and fun. Not even a stupid game mode or faster running speed will change that.

Put it out of its misery already...

​@@Noxian16greek mod? The greek faction (well british) do exist with a greek map.

yeah its really sad cuz this game is like Red Orchestra x2. The writing is definitely on the wall with this one. Unless they hire Black Matter to keep working on the game this is a sinking ship. Which they wont do. It seems team 17 is trying to squeeze as much money out of it as they can. I bet by this time next year this game has half its player base or worse.

@@poonstangable Check out Black Orchestra

I would buy the uniforms in the store on PlayStation to support the devs because I got this game absolutely free and have 700hrs of enjoyment from it but it’s on a slippery slope now so the best we can all do is NOT spend any money on the game and send the message clearly.

the game's quality has diminished since launch even with high player count. It literally is a glorified singleplayer game. everyone is doing their own thing and not one word is being said.

Kinda glad no one talk anymore i remember play recon with a friend back in the day just to be yelled at for not sitting in enemy hq for the entire match killing one guy. But i guess if you want to ve told what to do and told your having fun sitting in a spot doing nothing you should try gmod rp or some arma ultra sim server.

@@dredaashi7169 depends on the server tho

@@spaceygnat19908your the guy who takes a recon team just to sit on the front line with a scope and do nothing that your role is intended to do, no wonder you got yelled at all the time to just do your job lol, yea it’s repetitive but if you want more action on the front line pick a different role ffs.

Good squads are like 1 in 10. That 9 though is really painful. I once got booted from a squad once for asking people to communicate more when nobody was talking.

It’s very annoying to me since I’m not a pc player and hell let loose was the only milsim game we have since the chances of people communicating on Insurgency are even lower than HLL

@@nyxie_5146 I want to try Squad, but I am an old Project Reality player and Squad seems quite different from PR at the moment.

Yeah console player and can't really afford a high end PC ATM. Sad to see the only milsim I can play is going down hill.

@@supabass4003squad is 100 times easier to get into then Project reality, you’ll be fine jumping right in in fact you may find people aren’t “trying hard enough”

@@supabass4003 I'm in the same position, former (casual) PR player that was put off by the speed and casual-like gunplay in Squad. It seems that the gameplay overhaul (21st of June) will align it to the combat feeling of PR. I think I'm gonna hop over to Squad after the update if that holds true

Yes, absolutely, this is not Dev failure, this is management failure.

Well whatever Connor/Bluedrake42/Drakeling Labs has cooking up for Operation Harsh Doorstop (OHD) I sure hope it lasts and provides multiple, solid community-maintained milsim alternatives no matter the time preferred time period.

That's not feasible with 30lbs of gear on your back

@@rc5924 I disagree, the lunge isn’t a dolphin dive to the ground like in black ops but rather a small dive to the ground, I think realistically even with the gear, a solder that has found themselves in direct fire would dive similarly in the game. Adrenaline and the desire to not get torn up by machine gun fire is a big motivator

it very well just might.

I still play it all the time. There’s only like 1 server but who cares.

@@harkarankhunkhun7544 Exactly my stance, but a bit hearbreaking seing the last 5 months unfold, with more and more players leaving - let's hope OWI puts some money back into the pot and remarkets the game

@@mr_confuse Doesn't help how a good chunk of the old elitists aren't too friendly to new people, and often still have no idea how to deal with one-way communication or even text chat which is really useful for informing locations of interest beyond just the people nearby or going up the chain of command

Be the change you want to see.

Squad is one of the last enjoy while you can

Burning lands needs to come out

It's quite good, been playing it since it was released on steam. I prefer hell let loose because it's less of a walking sim 😂 Squad engagements can be far in between walking sessions at times.

@@kris301 man that’s a hell of a statement, HLL can (at least when I was a noob) be a hell of a walking sim

@@kris301 Shit i always found HLL to be much more of a walking sim, slower walking speed and people never wait for you to get on vehicles and they dont drive back for people either

come play post scriptum.

Exactly. People were already frustrated by the poor quality of BM's updates. Team 17's work is even lower quality and that "trailer" was a perfect example.

Oh hey Sam, yeah it's really frustrating because I mean now I don't even have the drive to actually boot up the game I used to love so much :/

Glad some people have some sort of brains.. HLL has been well, hell. Since the PZ4 was added.. felt like everyone has given up since then. Honestly if they could just revert back to pre pz4- and just let the game die. I'd be more happy. Instead of this cat with a dead mouse thing they're doing now...

time to move to post scriptum lad

@@entropy.8614 Post Scriptum is dead unfortunately. It has been for quite some time now. The only time it is playable is in the evening because the servers are empty most of the time.

No it didnt at all. I got 1k plus hours in that game and its truly a gem.

First time I'm hearing about this, thanks for the intel.

red orchestra is shitty compared to this game. ive been playing for about a month now and i dont understand why everyone is hating the new updates. a game has to adapt atleast somewhat to survive. while i enjoy the realism and all that. i would also be excited to see that mixed with more fast gameplay. maybe a few otherthings to make it easier for new people who play this game to get hooked. like an offline mode like red orchestra had. something anything better than throwing someone into it and just expect themselves to learn quickly. i am saying this as a relatively new player that THERE IS NOTHING FUN about dying once a minute or sooner. i was excited to playt his game at first and im level 31 about the only thing ive learned 9in that time is how to spot things and how the controls work there is no satisfaction when you spend atleast a third to a half of the game in respawning with very little to show for it. im lucky to get a kill a game or some times less. despite how cautious i am or how dard i look regardless of my mouse setting regardless of graphics setting. it rerally is almost impossible to spot anyone that isnt on your team if they arent like 20 feet in front of you. and being quite honest that has to change if this game intends to keep from dying a slow and agonizing death. its not rewarding to just die and die and die you all can criticize me all you like but its not going to change that in my opinion that if its not made a little easier for new players to learn the game and actually get better at it quicker than it is currently there its eventually gonna die from lack of new players it will go the way of eevery super/ impossibly hard game that has ever existed. it will be a hype for a while but once the hype is gone it will be forgotten except by the few players who are masochistic enough to enjoy dying every 30 seconbs

@@banjerman7067 Uh-huh, very interesting. The thing is though, I'm not going to read all that 😄

@@banjerman7067 You don't like dying often but you want to make the game faster and less tactical? You're contradicting yourself. In these games you need to stick with your squad and work together and communicate and not rush mindlessly into the battle, then you will die less. Squad is slower than this game and it's successful, not every shooter needs to be a Battlefield clone.

@@Noxian16 im not saying turn it into a battlefield clone im just saying that they need to make it easier for new players to learn the game and get hooked on it. and also in my case at this game, it doesnt matter if im moving fast, or slow, with the squad or not, i die way more times than i should at this level.

Those are C-47's, they're dropping parachute troops.

@@heinrichvonwicker168Then why are so low?

@@paladinboyd1228 With the limited video footage here, i have to assume that some are being shot out of the sky... Other's in the video are still flying high.

Yep. So looking forward to this

Soon

Same here, but from being depressed at the game and where I see it heading, fucking with shit like artillery and other core functions. It's gonna end badly.

The game is so good. I highly recommend it but it’s A LOT harder to play than Post Scriptum and especially HLL. It’s fun as shit though.

Good game, just way too old at this point

I mean, might aswell just repopulate RO2, which was better than HLL in every aspect tbh

From what I heard from my friends who used to work there, Team 17 is held back by more longtime senior staff with massive egos. I've only met one game dev who had a positive thing to say about Team 17 and they work out of office in publishing support

​@@stevesparkes165team 17 is acting more like marketing company/product firm then they are a game company. I've gotta do some digging on the higher ups- but I'm pretty sure they have business backgrounds not dev backgrounds. Actually I don't think they've ever even talked to average people... Because their way of communicating with the player base and their road maps, is too corporate.

Us console peasants never had the chance🤦‍♂️finally pulled the trigger on HLL when they announced the brits but seems like i joined at the wrong time😂

HLL made the smart move in smoothing out its learning curve and creating an easy way into the game with semi-realism rather than the more hardcore gameplay of Post Scriptum. I think PS had a lot of potential and very well could have been better than HLL but they just didn't understand the player base they were marketing to relative to HLL. I say this as someone who tried to get into Post Scriptum back when HLL hadn't even released Carentan yet. My time with PS was confusing, aggravating, and more frequently than not felt like I was micromanaging myself and my teammates instead of relaxing and having fun. I wouldn't say the fault there is with the players for not supporting post scriptum, to fault players for taking the more enjoyable and easier path is just pointless.

@@automaton1740 Nah man, PS is just WW2 Squad. The thing that killed PS were the bridge maps.

​@@automaton1740 your way of describing the situation is downplaying at best.. Hell let loose is casual shooter game never been hardcore or even tactical. The mechanics are arcady and if you check which is more tactical its ps. Hell let loose will die in few years due the issue of casualization cause they are running out of ideas to improve and fix the game.

​@@castor3020 thats subjective opinion.. what killed ps was the issue of what audience to please. Devs didnt go originally towards the milsim experience and on the side didnt fix issues or didnt know how to fix em (bugs)

Because it never got console support. Believe it or not, we're a large player base. Games do better when they're more available.

and its entire Dev team .. ouch!

​@@tenacious645Hell Let Loose has always had a larger player base, even before its console release. I really don't think HLL has sold super well on console.

Hll was more on the casual side

I enjoyed some Post Scriptum but refunded HLL when I tested it (even before all the controversy), shame PS fired all devs, probably wouldn't have happened if they saw this coming to HLL

It's funny because people hated OWI for adding emotes (I understand, I was very skeptical too) but I see now it's not something that affects gameplay, if they needed some extra money to continue development I think it's fine (if they don't go too far with it), since it seems like they want to keep Squad going in the right direction and not make it increasingly casual.

Yes, but i alsp cant blame Black Matter for saying yes to 50 million, it is a busniess wheb you get right down to it. Its in team 17 to not piss it away

50 mill was an offer they couldn’t refuse. Don’t blame BM.

Its a business :( even though they probably care for what they were doing, when someone throws a bag with millions of dollars in your face... It's complicated, I know I would take the money and never work in my life ever again, you can live the rest of your life on passive income alone with that amount of money.

I mean no, any problems that came from T17... comes from T17.

​@@TalladegaNightagreed with this so much. Imagine starting and building your dream title and someone likes it so much they offer to buy it for 50 mil. I'd be ecstatic. They really did "make it".

RIP DOI

I absolutely loved that game. Timeline accurate weapons and uniforms for maps, awesome voice lines in-game, the soundscape was good too. All-round awesome

I can only accept a 16 v16 on Finnish maps since that seems historically accurate, 2 or 3 platoons vs platoons, I'm probably gonna hate it and regret it, opposite of British update reaction.

@@bruhism173 DoI is very much a team-based shooter first and foremost, the scale is smaller on purpose

War thunder been fucked. F2P, P2W… No hope unless occasional play and not taking the grind too serious.

Gaijin just released the roadmap, it's actually looking pretty promising. Don't give up just yet

@@thundreski People get lost with maps all the time. Once they follow through with the road map then I might put some faith back in them.

War thunder has been fucked up. The current situation was just the nail of the coffin for the whales with Stockholm syndrome